TwitchCon 2024 was a total whirlwind. During the three-day-long convention for the streaming platform, I saw drag performances, fake debates, wild cosplays, and a Chevron installation. I brushed elbows with big Twitch streamers like Hasan Piker, Caroline Kwan, JuiceBoxx, Deere, and moreāall while incredibly jet-lagged.
One of my last interviews was Will Neff, a streamer and actor who is, notably, dating Kwan. Heās the host of the TwitchCon live show Name Your Price and runs in a close circle with Piker, AustinShow, and QTCinderella. Heās also an unabashed New York Jets fan, a former G4 host, and a motor-mouthed ham. Neff, who has a masterās degree in interactive media, wasrecently banned from Twitch for 48 hours after streaming The Shawshank Redemption during his āfilm schoolā sessions.
I sat down with him before that ban, on the second day of TwitchCon 2024, to have a light-hearted discussion about *checks notes* sucking dicks, being from Long Island, and his friendship with Hasan Piker. Oh, and his undying love for The Binding of Isaac. He also very kindly gave me a bottle of his hot sauce, though TSA took it from meāsorry, Will.
Our conversation, edited for clarity and brevity, is below.
Alyssa Mercante: This is not anything serious. Iāve had enough serious interviews.
Will Neff: You got it.
AM: Wait, did you go to school for game design?
WN: No, well, so I went to school for a major that is known as Interactive Media. Which was kind of very millennial-coded in that it was trying to repurpose traditional forms of media for the web. And so I had a film emphasis and my focus was taking film elements and putting them on the web. And so, my thesis at the end of my masterās was using a program called Galahad to make a choose-your-own-adventure movie… For my masterās program I went to Cuba and I shot a documentary about their state-funded organic farming program.
AM: Cool.
WN: Um, and how like this, these very small, um, kind of urban farms in Cuba outperform farms in the United States, which is like fascinating ācause they have almost nothing⦠But yeah. I used to be, you know, fun and worldly and now I sit at my desk and make jokes about sucking my own dick. So.
AM: I think thatās great. I have a masterās and maybe I should do the same.
WN: Make jokes about sucking your dick?
[Both laugh]
AM: Or at least just, you know, not do smart shit anymore. ācause it doesnāt really pay.
WN: Yeah, thatās, well I was a screenwriter for years and thatās, thatās ultimately how I found my way to streaming is it just didnāt pay.
AM: Yeah and you did the new version of G4.
WM: I did G4, I was at BuzzFeed. Um, Fullscreen.
AM: Youāve done all the media stuff
WN: Yeah.

AM: Iām not saying you would condone everyone quitting their jobs and doing something like this, but like, could you have even imagined that this would be where you are, considering what you did before? Or does it feel like a natural sort of progression?
WN: No, I couldnāt have imagined it… I think a lot of people kind of in our age range, we got saddled with a lot of the ideas of our parents. And one of those, predominantly, is that you have to work for someone.
And especially in entertainment, thatās such a sticky wicket because itās a very predatory business. And you are, as a young creative person, youāre so eager to prove whatever demons wrong that you haveāyour family, friends, whoeverāthat you have talent and that you can make a living out of this, that youāre willing to put yourself through levels of discomfort that I donāt think any other profession would tolerate.
Especially from what weāre getting paid. Ultimately, I think that comes from the mentality. You know, my dadās 94 years old. And this mentality thatās like, āWith a firm handshake and good work ethic, you can have a home,ā and itās just not that anymore.
AM: You guys fucked the economy.
WN: Right. Itās not what we inherited. So I think I worked for so many people, you know, I created such great work for BuzzFeed and Fullscreen and for so many others, and I would go home with less than $30,000 a year, which in LA is not very livable.
Ultimately, the way I found my way to Twitch was I was about to quit everything and go be a beekeeper with my cousin. āCause we still own a farm in Michigan, and my cousin is my closest family member. And I was literally making plans and Hasan Piker got me drunk one night and was like, āYouāre gonna buy a gaming PC and youāre gonna stream, bitch.ā And I was like, āNo, I have $2,000 in my bank account, itās over.ā
But with that $2,000, I bought a Core Power PC from Walmart, Iām pretty sure. And I started streaming, and it was like a love affair because Iāve always been a performer and Iāve always been an entertainer. And I get so much from, you know, creating happiness or laughter in people. And I was getting that immediate feedback loop, that Twitch feedback loop is so quick. Itās like the smack of social media where the moment you put content out, youāre getting your comment thread.
And so I was immediately hooked. But it wasnāt like, āOh, Iām gonna be very successful at this one day.ā It was like, āI gotta get on and see what people think of this.ā
AM: And now look at you.
WN: Years later itās uh, itās kind of surreal to be a streamer. But itās very gratifying and Iām super lucky.
AM: And you have your core group, you guys all understand what each other does every day, ācause youāre all streamers. Is that kind of weird or is it good because you guys understand that, like, Hasanās gonna be unavailable for eight hours?
WN: Yeah itās always interesting and fascinating, things that you can get used to, and ultimately, Hasan was a guy I knew back when he was a fat, sweaty mess.
AM: How did you know him? From school?
WM: So, my best friend growing up was his best friend in college. And so I met him when I would visit my best friend from when I was like 12 years old and he was at Rutgers. Then one day we all went to lunch together in California ācause Hasan was living there. And it was like the third time I ever hung out with him. And my friend brought his girlfriend and they got into a big New Jersey style fight at this lunch and walked out and we were kind of sitting silently, Hasan and I at the table. And, I looked at him and I was like, āDo you want to eat their food and stiff them with the bill?ā And he was like, āMore than anything.ā
[Both laugh]
And we have been very close friends ever since. Ultimately, Iām so happy with Hasanās success and I think heās a much better rounded person now. But there are days that I miss like the sweaty Backyardigans version of him.
AM: I mean, you guys were all darts off yesterday. I was at Debatelords and I was like, oh, this is a shirtless hour.
WN: Oh yeah.
AM: Was that planned?
WN: No, no, no. Okay. I just think we were all former fat kids now who have muscles and itās like, any chance I get my tits are coming. Hell yeah. I worked hard for these tits.
AM: Hell yeah. I feel the same way as someone who works out quite a bit. If I have an excuse to take my butt out. Iām taking it out.
WN: Do it. God, yeah.
AM: Because also I think mooning is funny.
WN: Mooning is very funny.
AM: And I think we as a society lost that. Butts are funny.
WN: Mooning and flashing and is just funny.
AM: Still funny.
WN: Itās a good time.
AM: And itās the simplest form of entertainment.
WN: Yeah.
AM: Every time my sister drops me off at the train; Iām from Long Islandā
WN: Where?
AM: Why?
WN: [points to himself] Oyster Bay, Greendale.
AM: Wait, what?
WN: Yeah.
AM: Farmingdale.
WN: Oh my God. Are you Jets fan?
AM: Yes.

[Both laugh]
WN: Oh my God. Wait a minute.
AM: Wait what?
WN: Did we just become best friends!?
AM: Wait, what? I didnāt know that. Youāre from Long Island.
WN: Oh, I am. I am from Long Island andā
AM: How long did you live on Long Island? Why donāt you have a fucked up accent?
WN: Because I left when I was eight years old.
AM: Oh wow. Yeah. Okay.
WN: And again, my father is 94. So heās a person with, like, very practiced diction.
AM: So they are they from New York? Your parents?
WN: My dad is from New York and New Jersey and my mom is from Michigan.
AM: Thatās fucking awesome, dude. Yeah. Have you ever gone back? I mean, why would you?
WN: I go back to Manhattan every once in a while ācause a lot of my friends are still there. And itās interesting to see like, theyāre so worldly and so fun and then thereās like moments where theyāre just so depressed.
AM: [laughs] Yeah. Oh yeah. Long Islandās also crazy ācause like, I didnāt realize, I guess ācause I grew up in it, how conservative it can be.
WN: Itās a very interesting brand of conservative too. It seems strange because theyāre like wild partiers. Theyāre very not into puritanical values. But at the same time theyāre like, āWhoa,ā at this. None of that weird shit. [laughs]
AM: Thatās so funny. Iām fromāwe call it the Dirty Dale.
WN: Oh really?
AM: Yeah. Like real trash.
WN: Yeah. I got arrested when I was like 15 for underage drinking.
AM: Dude, you have Long Island in your blood. I love making fun of Long Island, but it is a magical place. It made me who I am today.
WN: Itās magic. Listen, all you need to know is the Jets are the losingest sports franchise in history and yet they have the fourth strongest fanbase.
WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK BABY!
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— Will Neff (@TheWillNeff) March 16, 2024
AM: Long Islanders are loyal to a fault.
WN: And thereās something really admirable about that.
AM: Maybe thereās something in the water out there. You know?
WN: The same thing that makes the bagels great.
AM: What about hockey? Are you a hockey person?
WN: I was not an Islanders/Rangers guy growing up. I was a Devilās fan growing up, unfortunately.
AM: Weāre not best friends anymore. Iām a Rangers fan. I hate the Islanders.
WN: Really?
AM: I hate the Islanders. I hate them. My dad was like, āI like classic hockey, original six teams.ā
[Both laugh]
WN: None of that new shit.
AM: Oh God. Youāre a Jets fan. You know heartbreak more than anybody.
WNL Dude, I was watching on Thursday when we absolutely shellacked the Patriots for the first time at home ināWhat is it? For the first time in 15 games they won a home game against the Patriots.
AM: Thatās bad. Thatās pretty bad. I should probably ask you about video gamesāwhatās your favorite?
WN: I think I have an unfortunate disconnect where ,like, single player games, I really wonāt play on stream much. ācause chat is the most obnoxious where if anything isnāt done at the speed of like Mensa.
AM: Theyāre like, āYouāre a fucking idiot.ā
WN: [laughs] Yeah, more than one attempt⦠But I love the early Metal Gear Solid games. I am absolutely obsessed. They were so pivotal for me. And then recently Iāve just fallen in love with roguelikes. I love the element of like a good run versus a bad run and game IQ kind of enhancing your experience.
So the game that I play just the most often is Binding of Isaac. I got my girlfriend [Caroline Kwan] into it and now like on any flight sheās like, āLetās play Binding.ā
AM: Hell yeah. What do you play on? Steam Deck?
WN: Yeah.
AM: I have one, and then people on the subway are like, what is that? Whatās that thing you got?
WN: Theyāre so big.
AM: Itās so big. You can hurt someone with it. It doubles as a weapon on the subway. Iām worried about anything happening, I can.just literally crack someone over the head with it.
WN: Yeah. Just crack a masturbator in the headāhappens every day in Brooklyn.
The rest of our conversation descends into jokes and other nonsense, including him promising that he was going to take his shirt off during the Name Your Price segment later.