Trying not to sound like an asshole, but what's the writing and editing process for Kotaku?
I'm more curious than bothered by the spelling errors. Blogs are a lot different from formal news sites, so I was wondering.
On topic, though, I want this game so badly I can taste it. I was obsessed with the first game and played it nonstop. I managed to finish it for all but those stupid Keepers you have to find on the Citadel and the expansion packs. All within a week.
I just wish to point out, that companies should always be trying to improve. Coming out and saying we need to improve is sort of redundant. You can always do better. Yea sometimes you can do more better compared to previous things, but they should ALWAYS be striving to improve.
I thought Nintendo's presentation was pretty good compared with last year, thanks in a large part to Metroid: The Other M trailer and Super Mario Galaxy 2 reveal. Next year I expect them to have an even bigger impact when we see actual gameplay from both of the above titles, a Legend of Zelda Wii reveal, Pikmin 3, and finally whatever Retro studios are working on. 2010 seems like one of the busiest years in videogame history with impeding AAA releases across all platforms.
Nintendo have been making an INSANE amount of money for the past few years, they should put some of that towards releasing quality games more than 2-3 times a year. I mean seriously how much do you think wii sports resort cost them to make.
@soundwave882: @soundwave882: I'm guessing that means your list of "quality games released in 2008 by Nintendo" is Brawl, Kart, and Fit (?). They've sold something like 25 million copies of Brawl and Kart combined at 50 bucks a pop and around 21 million copies of Fit at almost $100 each. That's a gajillion dollars, right there. Resort was cheap to make and, more importantly, the gyroscopes for the M+ have become affordable apparently. Don't forget it's also the sequel to the *best selling video game of all time. Even if it sells half as many copies as it predecessor -- there's not much reason to think it wouldn't, given the sales of Fit and Play -- that's another half a gajillion dollars in Nintendo's pockets.
What else would you have them do?
Apparently, everyone has forgotten about "Mario &Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story" and "Made in Wario."
I blame Nintendo for that.
Also, Nintendo should have really showcased Scribblenauts and Space Invaders Extreme 2 (though who knows if SE/Taito were ready with the localization ... then again, it hardly needs it*.)
(*I will tell you who needs SIE2, though: me. GOTY 2009 confirmed.)
At least they recognize their failures. I think that Nintendo will be extremely hurt by the time the casual bubble bursts. They are heading straight to their own 1983 crisis.
@timedward: There is no casual bubble, unless you mean the one that started back in US arcades considering that's how the entire gaming industry began and what has always supported and what will always support it.
@Ueziel: You may call it whatever you want, but the one that started back in US arcades had to change its focus in order to survive. The same is true for Nintendo. Seriously, I do not think that moms will keep on playing wii fit for ages. Nintendo has already lost a significant share of "hardcore gamers". Sure, they have sold 50+ million wiis, but what about third party software??? Tamagotchis, furbys... typical fads that tend to oversaturate their market until they stop selling by the time everybody has one, and the next fad appears.
@timedward: Arcades never changed their focus. And neither has gaming in general. It gives people a fun diversion for a bit of time in various ways and nothing else. There is no "casual fad." It has existed throughout all of gaming exactly as it is now and will always exist.
Also, if you really think Nintendo's moving towards a new "1983 crisis" due to "casual" games, I'd hate to see what you think of how Microsoft was the first one to push the term "casual gaming" around back in 2002 (or thereabouts).
@timedward: This is why I don't think video games will catch on, they are just a passing fad like anything else. People buy them today like their tamodachis and furbys, typical fads that tend to oversaturate their market until they stop...wait wat?
Yeah, didn't happen.
Have fun hoping for something that isn't going to happen.
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@timedward: Your very ill informed.
You bring up the old 'omg third party games aren't selling' when they are. Sonic and Mario? Sega's biggest selling title in all their history. Monster Hunter 3? Half a mill in three days. Even the lower end titles typically push 100k or more in sales, which is pretty darn good seeing how most of them have no ads, no exposure, no demos, nothing. And even some of Nintendo's own titles don't sell.
Before swearing up and down the Wii is just one more flash in the pan, you need to go get the NPD data and see how incorrect you are.
@Foxstar is in love with Kotaku's two Brians.: ill informed?? have you taken a look at third party games that have sold more than
2 million copies in the Wii?? Do some research in every single top 10 best-selling
wii titles. All of them, except from Sonic and Mario, are first party titles.
Xbox and PS3?? Halo, 8.1 million, GOW 5 million, GOW 2, 5 million, GTA IV, 4.0 million,
Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare, 3.8 million. On the PS3 front, GTA IV 2.7 million,
Metal Gear Solid, 3 million. So tell me, does third-party software really sell on the wii?
By the way, do not tell me both Madworld and The Conduit were HUGE Sega hits.
@WestonHizalizouse: I hate douche bags like you who always rage "IT SHOULD BE THEIR NOT THERE RIGHT THEIR" (see wat i did thar harharhar)
If you can't stand to see any mistakes in your beloved English language, and for everybody to use all of it's stupid rules correctly and crap, get off the internet and go back to a college class full of "scholars" who devout all their time studying to conjugate verbs.
I however will stay on the internet and enjoy my horrible English, well written if not well grammatically formatted articles, and life.
@D Mitsuki : Gotta have guts kid!: There seems to be more rage in your post than the previous one, despite your accusations otherwise.
His expectations of correct grammar and spelling on a news site isn't so inappropriate. If this was some game forum, I would say let it be.
Your admission of the internet's horrible English is correct. A real man stands up and tries to correct those things that he knows to horrible, despite his peer's cajoling. To do nothing is to have no guts.
Iwata, really has read the feedback that every1 has gave the company. it's truly a revolutionary move in a company this size. as much as I have knocked Nintendo and really berated them here, I really truly love them as company cos they have moved this industy on further than any 1 company in the history of this industry has. I genuinely challenge any1 to prove me worng!!!
What I want is an Mario game with HD resolution, 7.1 surround sound support, and an EPIC story line. I want a full featured AAA 20 million dollar Mario game. That would be AMAZING. Maybe next generations Mario RPG?
While there have been a lot of good games on all 3 consoles(Yes, even the Wii). I just haven't been WOW'd like I have in the past. Or maybe it's just because I'm getting older.
I remember loading up FF7: MY GOD! EPIC! or Mario 64: WOOOOW!! I need a game where after I'm done playing through, it leaves me dazed in awe.
Nintendo: Give me the feeling I had when you first got me hooked on console gaming 20 years ago when I first tore open my NES, hooked it up, and turned it on.
@Adhominem: Looking for that exact response from a game means you'll never find it. It is literally impossible. You got those reactions because you had no idea what to expect from those games. That reaction is now impossible to achieve a second time.
Also, asking for a story line in a Mario game is really really dumb.
@Adhominem:
*PUTS ON REPRESENTATIVE OF NINTENDO SUIT*
We can give you the feeling you had 20 years ago when you first opened you NES. Simply follow these steps.
Step One - Attend seminars or counseling to get back in touch with your inner child. After a few sessions try and play some games, if you are still dissatisfied try step two.
Step Two - Move back into your parents house, quit your job and try living the same carefree lifestyle you did as a kid, complete with washing the dishes, eating your mom's soggy meatloaf and watching pro wrestling with your dad. After a few weeks of living with the folks try playing some games, if that still doesn't give you what you need try step three.
Step Three - Invent a serum to reverse aging by exactly 20 years. Take it. Try playing some games.
If this is still unsatisfactory try step four.
Step Four - Invent a time machine. Put it in a DeLorean. Drive back to the late eighties. Kill yourself before you have a chance to put Zelda into the cartridge slot for the first time. Before you start to vaporize try and play some Official Nintendo Seal Of Quality Approved Games.
*TAKES OFF REPRESENTATIVE OF NINTENDO SUIT*
*PUTS ON TANOOKI SUIT*
@Coollead: It didn't really have a story either. At least, not a story past "there's a bad guy! Let's get him!" Mario games having writing is fine (see M&L games, Paper Mario and such) but attempting to pretend that Mario is anything but a fun-loving or self-referential romp is ridiculous.
@Ueziel: MARIO RPG had super intense story.
You are ignoring the totally huge surprise about Mallow's real parents. SPOILER ALERT!!!
HE'S NOT REALLY A TADPOLE!
Other M totally changed my view of what Nintendo can be. Nintendo need edgier games like this. i want to see an edgier zelda for crying out loud. TP was as dark as wesley snipes teeth in a glow in the dark room.
@Boom-Chicka-Ah: Here to Create a Star Commenter...: Funny. I see Wind Waker as the culmination of the series. To me it was the realization of the vision of the first game--a child exploring, facing the enemies he dreams up as he goes along.
@Minister of Fun: I'll agree. There's no game I've played that feels as liberating and adventurous as Wind Waker did. The world feels so big, and you feel so small, and yet you've got a boat and some weapons and you make your way in the world.
Honestly, when I was in my boat, looking out on the horizon, a storm rolling in behind me, and, panning around, I could just see the faint outline of a new island coming up over the horzion... that was one of the best feelings I've had playing any game.
I don't want dark and edgy for the sake of dark and edgy. I want good a quality that is much more ephemeral and harder to define.
This is why I am looking forward to the new Golden Sun Game. Same scope, same feeling.
Seriously, compared to the year before I thought Nintendo did great. They freakin' announced 2 Mario games, a Metroid game, and Golden Sun for DS. That's more than I expected from them.
I know we'd all like to keep our expectations based on what the company used to be, but let's face it, things have changed. I like my Wii the least out of all three consoles, but I was still pleased to see a few potentially great games announced.
They don't need it (nor the other trade shows, for that matter) to get the press's attention, and what's more, it's completely antithetical to their nature as a secretive company. Similar to Apple, they tend to unveil things when they're done, or nearly so.
Sony and (esp.) Microsoft want/need the guaranteed spotlight only a trade show can bring and both (again, I'm looking in Microsoft's direction) have no qualms showing things off WAY before the public will get their collective hands on whatever it is.
If Nintendo wants to continue their attendance of these shows they should borrow from Microsoft and Sony where it makes sense, namely: unveil and/or demo third party games.
09/07/09
I'm more curious than bothered by the spelling errors. Blogs are a lot different from formal news sites, so I was wondering.
On topic, though, I want this game so badly I can taste it. I was obsessed with the first game and played it nonstop. I managed to finish it for all but those stupid Keepers you have to find on the Citadel and the expansion packs. All within a week.
08/12/09
I'm looking forward to this.
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Can't wait for that Zelda trailer. And hopefully something new.
And hopefully Other M is gonna be out by then so they can't fall back on it, but I have a feeling it won't be.
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08/10/09
What else would you have them do?
08/09/09
I blame Nintendo for that.
Also, Nintendo should have really showcased Scribblenauts and Space Invaders Extreme 2 (though who knows if SE/Taito were ready with the localization ... then again, it hardly needs it*.)
(*I will tell you who needs SIE2, though: me. GOTY 2009 confirmed.)
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Also, if you really think Nintendo's moving towards a new "1983 crisis" due to "casual" games, I'd hate to see what you think of how Microsoft was the first one to push the term "casual gaming" around back in 2002 (or thereabouts).
08/09/09
Yeah, didn't happen.
Have fun hoping for something that isn't going to happen.
08/10/09
You bring up the old 'omg third party games aren't selling' when they are. Sonic and Mario? Sega's biggest selling title in all their history. Monster Hunter 3? Half a mill in three days. Even the lower end titles typically push 100k or more in sales, which is pretty darn good seeing how most of them have no ads, no exposure, no demos, nothing. And even some of Nintendo's own titles don't sell.
Before swearing up and down the Wii is just one more flash in the pan, you need to go get the NPD data and see how incorrect you are.
08/10/09
2 million copies in the Wii?? Do some research in every single top 10 best-selling
wii titles. All of them, except from Sonic and Mario, are first party titles.
Xbox and PS3?? Halo, 8.1 million, GOW 5 million, GOW 2, 5 million, GTA IV, 4.0 million,
Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare, 3.8 million. On the PS3 front, GTA IV 2.7 million,
Metal Gear Solid, 3 million. So tell me, does third-party software really sell on the wii?
By the way, do not tell me both Madworld and The Conduit were HUGE Sega hits.
08/09/09
"Iwata: Nintendo Doesn't Think It's E3 Presser Went So Hot"
There shouldn't be an apostrophe at "It's" because it is a contraction for "it is" or "it has."
"Its" is a possessive pronoun meaning, more or less, of it or belonging to it.
Therefore, the title should be:
"Iwata: Nintendo Doesn't Think Its E3 Presser Went So Hot"
Come on Kotaku, you should be getting bloggers capable of fundamental English at the very least.
08/09/09
If you can't stand to see any mistakes in your beloved English language, and for everybody to use all of it's stupid rules correctly and crap, get off the internet and go back to a college class full of "scholars" who devout all their time studying to conjugate verbs.
I however will stay on the internet and enjoy my horrible English, well written if not well grammatically formatted articles, and life.
08/10/09
His expectations of correct grammar and spelling on a news site isn't so inappropriate. If this was some game forum, I would say let it be.
Your admission of the internet's horrible English is correct. A real man stands up and tries to correct those things that he knows to horrible, despite his peer's cajoling. To do nothing is to have no guts.
08/10/09
I, uh, see what you did there. ;)
Anyway, nothing wrong with pointing out spelling mistakes if they appear on the front page. Call it constructive criticism.
It only becomes a problem when you start spell checking other commenters.
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Why, Iwata? Why?
08/09/09
While there have been a lot of good games on all 3 consoles(Yes, even the Wii). I just haven't been WOW'd like I have in the past. Or maybe it's just because I'm getting older.
I remember loading up FF7: MY GOD! EPIC! or Mario 64: WOOOOW!! I need a game where after I'm done playing through, it leaves me dazed in awe.
Nintendo: Give me the feeling I had when you first got me hooked on console gaming 20 years ago when I first tore open my NES, hooked it up, and turned it on.
08/09/09
Also, asking for a story line in a Mario game is really really dumb.
08/09/09
*PUTS ON REPRESENTATIVE OF NINTENDO SUIT*
We can give you the feeling you had 20 years ago when you first opened you NES. Simply follow these steps.
Step One - Attend seminars or counseling to get back in touch with your inner child. After a few sessions try and play some games, if you are still dissatisfied try step two.
Step Two - Move back into your parents house, quit your job and try living the same carefree lifestyle you did as a kid, complete with washing the dishes, eating your mom's soggy meatloaf and watching pro wrestling with your dad. After a few weeks of living with the folks try playing some games, if that still doesn't give you what you need try step three.
Step Three - Invent a serum to reverse aging by exactly 20 years. Take it. Try playing some games.
If this is still unsatisfactory try step four.
Step Four - Invent a time machine. Put it in a DeLorean. Drive back to the late eighties. Kill yourself before you have a chance to put Zelda into the cartridge slot for the first time. Before you start to vaporize try and play some Official Nintendo Seal Of Quality Approved Games.
*TAKES OFF REPRESENTATIVE OF NINTENDO SUIT*
*PUTS ON TANOOKI SUIT*
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You are ignoring the totally huge surprise about Mallow's real parents. SPOILER ALERT!!!
HE'S NOT REALLY A TADPOLE!
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I do love Wind Waker.
08/09/09
Honestly, when I was in my boat, looking out on the horizon, a storm rolling in behind me, and, panning around, I could just see the faint outline of a new island coming up over the horzion... that was one of the best feelings I've had playing any game.
I don't want dark and edgy for the sake of dark and edgy. I want good a quality that is much more ephemeral and harder to define.
This is why I am looking forward to the new Golden Sun Game. Same scope, same feeling.
08/09/09
I know we'd all like to keep our expectations based on what the company used to be, but let's face it, things have changed. I like my Wii the least out of all three consoles, but I was still pleased to see a few potentially great games announced.
08/09/09
They don't need it (nor the other trade shows, for that matter) to get the press's attention, and what's more, it's completely antithetical to their nature as a secretive company. Similar to Apple, they tend to unveil things when they're done, or nearly so.
Sony and (esp.) Microsoft want/need the guaranteed spotlight only a trade show can bring and both (again, I'm looking in Microsoft's direction) have no qualms showing things off WAY before the public will get their collective hands on whatever it is.
If Nintendo wants to continue their attendance of these shows they should borrow from Microsoft and Sony where it makes sense, namely: unveil and/or demo third party games.
[end slightly-longwinded rant]