Ubi Forum Moderator: Wii Games "are not amazing new AAA games"

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That's a little nugget couched in a defense against charges Ubisoft has a crappy lineup for Wii and doesn't care. Oh but they do care! The lineup is crappy for a reason! Read on.

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On Ubi's forums, a commenter complains, "we get no new Core-titles and when we get some like Shaun White Snowboarding it looks worse than SSX on the Cube. Doesnt really look like Ubisoft is trying to put some effort in it."

The moderator comes back with a well-what-do-you-expect argument, without saying exactly that. The Wii's a console parents buy for kids, he says. "Parents who are buying a console for their children do not really care about Prince of Persia, Rainbow Six or Far Cry on the box, they want games that are going to be good for their children and not get them in the local newspaper."

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Then, quoting a bunch of sales figures, says Ubi's mindful of the Wii's growth market, which is casual gaming, not Assassin's Creed. "If you look at the most successful Wii games, they are not amazing new AAA games, they are predominantly family orientated [THIS IS NOT A WORD] games/alternative games."

I made a D in college logic, so I am amenable to corrections. But if I have it right, this is what the guy himself is saying

• Games that sell well on Wii are crappy (at least by "normal gamer" standards, as the questioner describes himself).

• Ubisoft makes games intending for them to sell well.

• Ubisoft makes games for the Wii.

• ... (profit!?)

Also, if you're a Wii gamer and think I'm pouring on the hate, your own people are sending around and signing a petition to demand Ubi make better games on the Wii. Sign it if you want, but I doubt it'll budge Ubi's Nintendo strategy. (Next up: Gerbilz!)

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Finally, I like this plea:

"As for Shaun Whites on the Wii, can you at least wait to get some more information and gameplay on it before binning it? Most people have seen a few screenshots and they already hate it because it does not look as good as the 360 etc but to damn a game just because of looks, and without actually playing it is just silly."

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No, actually, that's the status quo.

Do You Have Anything at All for Normal Wii-Gamers? [Ubisoft Forums, thanks mickifree93]

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DISCUSSION

I do not like this at all... things are taking a turn to the worse, with both sides now preety much going into a spiral of wich we may all end up suffering.

I appeal to common sense on both parts. There does not seem to be enought of these in the past times.

If I could, I would grab my GameCube and , say, this four games: F-Zero GX, Rogue Leader, Resident Evil 4 and Zelda TP. I would take this games to Ubisoft, play them for a bit and then turn to Ubisoft people and say:

"This are the games that the GameCube hardware could pull off last generation. Why are you not able to produce games that match and surpass the quality of these? If you do not have understanding of the wiimote controls, then do not try to tack them on everything you make, just give us good games with classical or Gamecube pad support."

People need to settle things with a bigger degree of serenity. The gamedevs need to step back and really listen to what the people want. If you make decisions based on top 10 charts for the Wii, youre making a huge mistake (yes, I know youre in this to make money). Part of the majority of Wii owners are the new gamers, people who do have the money to buy lots of games. But do you recall about us, the people who have been gamers since the Spectrum, the NES, the Gameboy? I've been spending so much time playing something as simple as Star Soldier R, just because it's exactly what it is: a schmup. A damm good one, even with only two levels. Why are such games a minority?

As for players, we also need to ponder that the Wii will not ever be able to compete on the same league of graphics as a 360|Ps3 hardware. I know, there are tons of absolutely crap games out there for the Wii (the dreaded shovelware that would even make a PS2 game be in shame), so, yes, show them youre disgust buy NOT buying them. We dont really need to go spread hate on Ubis foruns to make our point.

As for me, I was very mad at Ubisoft when the Wii came out. Red Steel needed more months and I just remember it for the amazing OST by Tom Salta. My father love racing games, so he bought me one for Christmas: GT Pro Series. I have it on my games list, and everyone points at me saying that I have a turd in my collection. Everytime they do, I explain that my father just went to the clerk and asked, when the Wii was just 2 weeks old, for a racing game. The clerk gave him this, Need for Speed or 4x4 monster (by Ubi). He choose the one that looked to be closer to proper racing (he doesnt really see why I get so happy playing Excite Truck...lets call it "generation gap"). So, Ubisoft made crappy games and willingly had them on sale to trick people like my gather. For this, I have yet to forgive them. I also find very odd that Excite Truck took 3 months to be released in Europe (it was released day 1 on the USA) while the dredful Ubi games with the wheel were the only thing being left in the shelves.

So this is were we stand. Ubisoft needs to reavaluate it's Wii audience fast, and we gamers/ end consumers need to put our concerns in more sensible ways. Somewhere out there, I hope some PR from Ubi reads my comment and reports it to someone whose job is to care. I just hope it does so not too late, before this spiral of "hate" keeps swirling us all to the end of videogaming as we knwo it.

For me, I can always go plug my SNES back... but im sure that that will nto be an option for most of you. For me, it's not an option to buy a 360 or PS3. Can't afford them, don't want them, I do not like photorealistic games. The game im most looking forward from Ubi is H.A.W.X., a game not comming to the Wii. I have sadly become used to this... but I will keep an eye out on the snowboarding game and Prince of Persia. And if they are so kind as to bring Beyond Good & Evil 2 to the Wii, I will be among those hwo buy it.

Strange times we live on. Where I must ask a gamedeveloper to make good games for my system of choice, so I can give them money for it. The strange bit? It's because my system is the #1 sold worldwide, and I believed the days of GameCube 2007 games draught was over. How naive of me...