@allstaraugustine: Wait until you get a real job. You won't care about GameStop anymore. Hell, you might not even shop there anymore, either! #screengrab
What I dislike about GameStop the most, more than anything in the list above is I had encounters with many employees that disagree with my tastes in video games that buy. I am a fan of obscure games, mostly games made by Treasure (I love Mischief Makers, and Ikaruga) and I went to GameStop to buy Bangai-O Spirits. The clerk actually complained to me saying I never liked mech games and tried to convince me to buy a different DS game.
It's that crap I really hate about GameStop. I really can careless about what other people like/dislike, but when it gets in the way of trying to buy something, that really pisses me off. #screengrab
@Jmans Revenge: Guy working in GAME in the uk once tried to get me to not buy Uncharted 2 because he heard it "sucks" and told me I should get the 360 version of Brutal Legend because the PS3 one barely works. #screengrab
@Jmans Revenge: I have the same problems with one of the stores that I live next to... The manager actually told me to stop spending money on used PS2 RPGs and just start pirating games....
Gaming message boards are generally not the place to criticize Gamestop's business practices, because 70-80% of Kotaku commentators are caught under the heel of its corporate overlords. Or so it seems from this thread.
That's fine. Joe Gamer gotta eat.
That being said, these two panels were contradictory:
"Proceed to ignore every living entity in the store. Employees, kids, elitist nerds. Seriously, everyone."
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"Inform the soccer mom ahead of you in line that she doesn't need to buy 47 peripherals just to play a Wii."
So in three panels you're supposed to transform from Gamestop über-loner to one of those annoying "elitist nerds" you're supposed to be ignoring? #screengrab
Btw... I have a problem with the gamestop employeese on this thread saying they HAVE to reccomend used games, pre-orders and strat guides. Who is making you? Seriously most gamestops are manned by two people at a time so unless the other guy next to you is a corporate douchbag that forces you, there isn't anyone around to catch you if you don't reccomend all the crap. #screengrab
@HowardC: They have to because they need to reach a two-per-day quota for pre-orders, for example.
And, yes, a fellow employee might "let it slip out" that you're not maximizing your capacity to sell, and by them pointing out inadvertently that fact, may taint the view of them in front of their manager which might cost them a job when cuts come about or overpass them when a promotion opportunity happens.
Point is, it is part of their job when they get brought in. If a customer is interested in something, show them related accessories or products that have a higher profit margin (used games, strategy guides) or assist in the assessing demand process (pre-orders). Depending on who their DM is, THAT is their job - not simply seeing to it that you're taken care of. If the employee IS doing that, then great. Point is that there's stuff they just have to say to stay employed. #screengrab
As bad as Gamestop is, I don't really find this little guide funny. Seems to just retread classic Gamestop complaints and spends a little bit of time contradicting its own advice. (Don't talk to anyone but also talk to Soccer mom) Oh and can you even get a game that hasn't been opened at Gamestop? You know what else sucks for video game consumers? Gamespy's matchmaking service. #screengrab
@Shteve: Last few times I've purchased games at Gamestop, and I admit its rare and its been quite a while, the clerk has pulled my disc out of a sleeve behind the counter and placed it in a case. I've been told this is for theft prevention but it also lends itself to the employee pre-play perk of being a Gamestop employee. So I am assuming you are saying that not all games at Gamestop are opened to put their cases on the shelf. So do you ask for an unopened one or do you just have to luck out with that? I think I'll probably stick to buying online either way. Going into Gamestop freaks me out a bit, had to do it when I was trying to get Demon's Souls and it wasn't a pleasant experience. #screengrab
@mabadaba: I generally go to GS if I'm looking for a rare last-gen game, something I missed the first time on PS2 or Gamecube or GBA, or a game that went out of print. Occasionally I'll get lucky and find a game with nice packaging, no tears on the plastic, and a disc that seems to have no dried bodily fluids on the underside... always a bonus!
For this purpose, and this purpose alone, Gamestop is a useful retailer.
As for upselling, I don't sweat it. I politely say "no thanks". If they get aggressive after I've said no two or three times, then I take my business elsewhere (no kidding). But you gotta cut them some slack. When you treat your employees like the salesmen in Glengarry Glen Ross and punish them for other peoples' disinterest, you're going to get a little more aggression and anxiety floating around. In other words, I grab my rare game, blame the system and duck out quickly... #screengrab
I think it's hilarious hearing all the Gamestop employees try to defend their jobs. Gamestop employees I have nothing against you and I understand it's not your choice to pester customers but the simple fact of the matter is your job annoys other people.
You're like a telemarketer. I don't like telemarketers. I have nothing against the people themselves, I acknowledge that it is not their choice to pester me, I realize they're only trying to do their jobs and get paid, but that doesn't change the fact that they are bothersome.
Same idea with Gamestop employees. I know you get incentives for selling Game Informers, and Edge cards, and used titles, and pre-orders, I know it's your job, I know it's not your choice. It's still annoying as hell. It doesn't change the fact that I just want to walk-in, buy a new copy of a game, and walk-out without being pestered about purchasing a bunch of things I have no interest in.
Now personally I remedy this by simply not buying games at Gamestop in favor of buying them on Amazon and saving boatloads of money. Unfortunately though, you're job is annoying. I'm sorry. Nobody is attacking you personally. Some people sympathize having had shitty jobs themselves. Ultimately our issue is with the practices of the company. Just know that no one is attacking you, we're just annoyed by what your job entails. #screengrab
@bkchurch: The difference between a telemarketer and a salesman is that you're entering their domain expressing interest in a product that they offer and that they're trying to simultaneously provide value while making a higher profit margin by offering you products that are related.
You talk about Amazon, and they do the exact same thing with "customers that bought this also bought". Maybe it's the attitude of an employee that isn't expressing it well, but the point is the things that they have to offer you are not only requirements of the job, they're also to ensure you get something you want out of the experience. And while there might be negative spin on that, it's ultimately to make sure that anything game related you were going to buy today you buy from them and not from somewhere else. #screengrab
Right, and I can enter a Best Buy or my local record store (yes I do have a local record store and they're one of my favorite game retailers) and buy a game without being pestered to buy ten different things I have no interest in and didn't come to the store for. #screengrab
This isn't an anti-Gamestop/don't shop at Gamestop/I don't shop at Gamestop so I'm better than you rant. It's an explanation to Gamestop employees that when people express their annoyance with Gamestop employees it's an issue they're taking with company policy not the employees themselves. #screengrab
WTF!?! How dare they open up sealed games, play them, then try and sell them back to the people as new!?! I never buy shite from GameSpot. The comic did not even mention the half of it. How about GameSpot putting stickers all over the used games NEEDLESLY! And thn they are freaking impossible to get off and they always leave some residue.
@Charles Chapman: Goo Gone. Wal-Mart or any craft/hobby store. Feels good man.
Though agree with the "open new games = resell as new" if they've taken them home to play. The policy really only needs to apply to used games, since I bet they're willing to not take a used price hit on a new product that they're trying to recoop full MSRP for. #screengrab
@Charles Chapman: Lighter fluid is also very effective at getting off those pesky Gamestop Stickers. (And they are annoying, I'm with you there.) Just soak a thick wad of tissue or cotton in it, apply firm pressure and rub across the sticker until the yellow color begins to fade... repeat once or twice. The sticker peels off almost magically after being soaked, and rubbing the plastic underneath with a small amount of lighter fluid - then a quick water wipe and dry - really gets rid of that horrible cloudy, sticky Gamestop Grime.
@zombienemy: But it is! REally, have you ever tried to BUY GAMES there? It's like they don't want you to. It's like they are actively working against my giving them my money in exchange for their products. #screengrab
@Cynical1: in canada, gamestop is called EB Games. And yes. i have actually had store clerks try to stop me from buying something. i once asked one store clerk to pull something down for me to look and and most likely buy and he said "you better be buying it if i have to go all the way up there to get it". And its also kinda sad how little many of them know of gaming. I asked for a copy of Killzone 2, and then i was asked "for xbox or ps3?". So i said "nevermind" and i went to bestbuy #screengrab
@Nyctus: "you better be buying it if i have to go all the way up there to get it"
Oh, that's not cool! Unless it's said with a wink and a smile.
Even if the customer isn't buying it right there, interest is expressed and even if "going the extra mile" doesn't result in a sale right there, it'll result in a sale later because you took care of the customer where others may not have appropriately.
But that's not even going "the extra mile" letting you look at a product IS HIS JOB. Understandable frustration. #screengrab
Heaven forbid employees do their job. Bashing a company for its policies is one thing, but why attack the employees? They have to do what's in the store policy whether they like it or not. This is just ridiculous complaints over trivial matters. There are a great number of things to complain about Gamestop as a company, and this missed every single one of them.
As an extra note, Wouldn't taking your time to inform the soccer mom about how stupid her purchase is be acting as one of the elitist nerds you're trying to ignore? People like different things, and if you're gonna condemn someone for their purchase then you are being just as bad as those you scorned. #screengrab
@GuardianOfChaos: No, but whenever I'm in GameStop and there's some kid in there with his mom so that he can buy Halo Wars I always, always, always have to butt in and ask if they know what exactly it is that they're buying. That it's not another FPS but a RTS. 2 of 3 so far have said that they played the demo so they did know how it played and the parents thanked me for trying to protect a fellow customer from buying something they may not be happy with and the other one I let know they had me describe how an RTS worked and then promptly looked for another title after thanking me for the explanation.
Naturally I don't think of myself as an elitist nerd, and actually the GS employees ask the same question when someone gets to the counter with the game, but it just goes further to reinforce that people are looking to provide customer satisfaction by asking questions. The GS employee is trying to protect the customer from feeling like they wasted their money on a title they didn't necessarily want, I'm asking questions to try and protect someone's view of the Halo franchise in case all they want to be exposed to is FPSs.
It's not about superiority or wanting to fight or wielding the e-peen; it's about genuinely caring about another person. #screengrab
@Everyone Who Replied: My point is that Gamestop has a lot of problems, and there are a great number of things/policies to complain about and provide humor. This comic seems to ignore all of them by blaming the re-sealing of new games on "idiotic store clerks." The only thing it gets right is how the store keeps big displays of older games in the way. When I worked there you would be surprised at how many people would come in, find out we don't carry Playstation games anymore or XBox games now and throw fits and storm out. The old games/consoles are still top sellers.
Attack the company in a humorous way if that's the intent. Call out the re-sealing, the forcing of employees to sell subscriptions/reservers because the number they sell determines how many hours they are allowed to work next week, or how the company makes management work 6 days a week without giving them enough hours to work a non management employee more than 3 hours a week otherwise. #screengrab
You know, I worked my second day at Gamestop today. I really like everyone I work with, so I'm sort of torn between being offended and understanding the joke. Maybe the job hasn't "gotten" to me yet, but I feel like I'm friendly and all that good stuff. Some dude even asked if we had comment cards so he could tell the managers about how nice I was.
I mean, I've never really had a TERRIBLE experience at a GS, sometimes a clerk was a bit short with me, but nothing outrageous. Though, you get bad apples in every bunch, I suppose. #screengrab
Game is much more frequent than Gamespot around here (although we do have both) and they are ruled with an iron fist in that things are always laid out in exactly the same way in every store. Sure, everything else kind of applies, but still, things are well organized, that much is true.
For the record, I like brick and mortar stores. I might hate being bombarded with offers to preorder and that kind of crap, but I look at my friends wait for their preordered stuff from Amazon and I can't help but thing something has been lost in the transition from walking into the store with money in your pocket, picking up a box and saying "I want this game".
Hey, I got Dark Cloud 2 for $4 and Wild Arms 5 for $5 at my local GameStop. Yeah, their sales pitches can get irksome, but I've found some pretty cool games rummaging through the bargain bins. #screengrab
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It's that crap I really hate about GameStop. I really can careless about what other people like/dislike, but when it gets in the way of trying to buy something, that really pisses me off. #screengrab
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That's fine. Joe Gamer gotta eat.
That being said, these two panels were contradictory:
"Proceed to ignore every living entity in the store. Employees, kids, elitist nerds. Seriously, everyone."
Then:
"Inform the soccer mom ahead of you in line that she doesn't need to buy 47 peripherals just to play a Wii."
So in three panels you're supposed to transform from Gamestop über-loner to one of those annoying "elitist nerds" you're supposed to be ignoring? #screengrab
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And, yes, a fellow employee might "let it slip out" that you're not maximizing your capacity to sell, and by them pointing out inadvertently that fact, may taint the view of them in front of their manager which might cost them a job when cuts come about or overpass them when a promotion opportunity happens.
Point is, it is part of their job when they get brought in. If a customer is interested in something, show them related accessories or products that have a higher profit margin (used games, strategy guides) or assist in the assessing demand process (pre-orders). Depending on who their DM is, THAT is their job - not simply seeing to it that you're taken care of. If the employee IS doing that, then great. Point is that there's stuff they just have to say to stay employed. #screengrab
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For this purpose, and this purpose alone, Gamestop is a useful retailer.
As for upselling, I don't sweat it. I politely say "no thanks". If they get aggressive after I've said no two or three times, then I take my business elsewhere (no kidding). But you gotta cut them some slack. When you treat your employees like the salesmen in Glengarry Glen Ross and punish them for other peoples' disinterest, you're going to get a little more aggression and anxiety floating around. In other words, I grab my rare game, blame the system and duck out quickly... #screengrab
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You're like a telemarketer. I don't like telemarketers. I have nothing against the people themselves, I acknowledge that it is not their choice to pester me, I realize they're only trying to do their jobs and get paid, but that doesn't change the fact that they are bothersome.
Same idea with Gamestop employees. I know you get incentives for selling Game Informers, and Edge cards, and used titles, and pre-orders, I know it's your job, I know it's not your choice. It's still annoying as hell. It doesn't change the fact that I just want to walk-in, buy a new copy of a game, and walk-out without being pestered about purchasing a bunch of things I have no interest in.
Now personally I remedy this by simply not buying games at Gamestop in favor of buying them on Amazon and saving boatloads of money. Unfortunately though, you're job is annoying. I'm sorry. Nobody is attacking you personally. Some people sympathize having had shitty jobs themselves. Ultimately our issue is with the practices of the company. Just know that no one is attacking you, we're just annoyed by what your job entails. #screengrab
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You talk about Amazon, and they do the exact same thing with "customers that bought this also bought". Maybe it's the attitude of an employee that isn't expressing it well, but the point is the things that they have to offer you are not only requirements of the job, they're also to ensure you get something you want out of the experience. And while there might be negative spin on that, it's ultimately to make sure that anything game related you were going to buy today you buy from them and not from somewhere else. #screengrab
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Right, and I can enter a Best Buy or my local record store (yes I do have a local record store and they're one of my favorite game retailers) and buy a game without being pestered to buy ten different things I have no interest in and didn't come to the store for. #screengrab
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Go there. #screengrab
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I do.
This isn't an anti-Gamestop/don't shop at Gamestop/I don't shop at Gamestop so I'm better than you rant. It's an explanation to Gamestop employees that when people express their annoyance with Gamestop employees it's an issue they're taking with company policy not the employees themselves. #screengrab
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Though agree with the "open new games = resell as new" if they've taken them home to play. The policy really only needs to apply to used games, since I bet they're willing to not take a used price hit on a new product that they're trying to recoop full MSRP for. #screengrab
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Just be careful around open flame. #screengrab
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Oh, that's not cool! Unless it's said with a wink and a smile.
Even if the customer isn't buying it right there, interest is expressed and even if "going the extra mile" doesn't result in a sale right there, it'll result in a sale later because you took care of the customer where others may not have appropriately.
But that's not even going "the extra mile" letting you look at a product IS HIS JOB. Understandable frustration. #screengrab
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As an extra note, Wouldn't taking your time to inform the soccer mom about how stupid her purchase is be acting as one of the elitist nerds you're trying to ignore? People like different things, and if you're gonna condemn someone for their purchase then you are being just as bad as those you scorned.
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Naturally I don't think of myself as an elitist nerd, and actually the GS employees ask the same question when someone gets to the counter with the game, but it just goes further to reinforce that people are looking to provide customer satisfaction by asking questions. The GS employee is trying to protect the customer from feeling like they wasted their money on a title they didn't necessarily want, I'm asking questions to try and protect someone's view of the Halo franchise in case all they want to be exposed to is FPSs.
It's not about superiority or wanting to fight or wielding the e-peen; it's about genuinely caring about another person. #screengrab
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Attack the company in a humorous way if that's the intent. Call out the re-sealing, the forcing of employees to sell subscriptions/reservers because the number they sell determines how many hours they are allowed to work next week, or how the company makes management work 6 days a week without giving them enough hours to work a non management employee more than 3 hours a week otherwise. #screengrab
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And all this time I thought it was a day-care.
Interesting. #screengrab
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I mean, I've never really had a TERRIBLE experience at a GS, sometimes a clerk was a bit short with me, but nothing outrageous. Though, you get bad apples in every bunch, I suppose. #screengrab
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For the record, I like brick and mortar stores. I might hate being bombarded with offers to preorder and that kind of crap, but I look at my friends wait for their preordered stuff from Amazon and I can't help but thing something has been lost in the transition from walking into the store with money in your pocket, picking up a box and saying "I want this game".
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