Which Microsoft Creation is More Despised: Clippy? Or Games For Windows Live?

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Maybe I'm the only one keeping score every time this is noted, but Max Payne 3 is the latest game to say fuck no, we're not using Games For Windows Live. A tweet Wednesday from Rockstar, as noticed by PC Gamer, says it straight up.

Being not a PC gamer or a Windows user, I only know there are 226,000 results for searching the phrases (both with quotation marks around them) "games for windows live" and "piece of shit." While not a J.D. Power survey of customer satisfaction, it's one indicator that the five-year-old service is not and never has been well liked. I've never read anything complimentary about it.

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"GFWL," which sounds like an Internet abbreviation for Go Fuck With Leather or something, "is unpopular, difficult to use, inconvenient, and can be very annoying for many users," says a petition now at 22,271 signatures, demanding that Dark Souls not use it when the game releases on PC. I want to know more—and that's a serious question.

Perhaps I should have posed this during Anger Management yesterday evening, but consider this your open thread to unload on Games For Windows Live. Why is it still around? Does anyone get anything out of it?

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staindgrey
staindgrey

You know, some of us like GFWL. It has positives for PC users who aren't "PC gamers".

I have a gaming rig, but I don't play at my desk. It's hooked up to a 32" TV, and I play with my gamepad from a distance. With Steam games, I can't access messages or friends lists or anything from my bed; I have to stay physically at the desk, which I don't want to do, to access the keyboard.

GFWL gives me ease of access to this stuff *with a gamepad*. Yeah, it seems clunky to a mouse/keyboard user, because it's designed with a gamepad in mind. Then there's the fact that I can see my Xbox friends and exchange messages while using it, which is a huge plus for me. Again, not for somebody who lacks an Xbox.

The service hasn't been updated in forever. It's excessive to someone who doesn't want it. I get all that. But you know what? Some of us actually *want* it included, and *not having GFWL can be a dealbreaker.

Take Arkham City. I wouldn't have bought the PC version if it required Steamworks instead of GFWL, because I would have had to play it from my desk. I wanted to enjoy it from afar, casually. If it had been Steamworks instead, I'd have just gotten the 360 version instead.