Now Here's a Guy That Just Hates (Captain) America

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Speak Up doesn't have to be about video games, especially when a commenter as famous as fake Tony Danza comes out against a shining example of America colors on a comic book character.

So what with The Avengers in theaters and all that it's sparked conversation about the rest of the movies, and one thing I've noticed is that a lot of people liked Captain America more than Thor.

Why? I found Captain America horrible. Not only is Captain America a rather appalling character, wrapped in jingoistic patriotism that makes me want to vomit (I'm under the impression he's got more depth in the comic, but just the idea of a character called "Captain *Country*" is almost physically disgusting it's so bad.), but the movie just wasn't very good in my opinion. None of the characters were rather likable except, maybe, the doctor who gave him the serum and Stark (Who was a real let down considering how good Robert's Tony is), the pacing was horrible, and just generally it wasn't very compelling. Oh look, the Nazi's are dabbling in secret and forbidden sciences/occult, I haven't seen that story since.... Hellboy 1?


I could go on, but anyway:

Why do people like the Captain America movie?

For the record, I'm not trying to be condescending, I'm honestly curious what you see in it.

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Captain America never really represented America. Rather, he represented what America should be: he is tolerant, hard working, never gives up, and punches Nazis. And I wouldn't call Captain America jingoistic, since the movie is more about punching Nazis than how great America is. Heck, half the people in his elite team are not from the United States. The only time where we really see active duty american soldiers is when Cap is giving a pep talk to them. The troops are, quite frankly, being a bunch of @$$holes. Except for Hydra, every non-american in the film is shown to be intelligent, dedicated, and willing to stand up for what they believe in. The fact that Cap is american doesn't factor much into the story. You could replace Captain America with Colonel England or General France and have much the same film. Just change the locations and whatnot.

In the comics, Captain America repeatedly goes against the government, Even waging a secret rebellion in Civil War. He compliments the French routinely, arguing that they are not cowards despite what people think. Though I have to admit, what I've seen of Ultimate Cap makes him exactly what you paint him as.

Plus World War 2: even the French and the Russians admit we did pretty good back then.