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    Image of jpgnotgif jpgnotgif
    11/28/09

    In reply to Super Street Fighter IV's Cody, Adon, And Guy In Pictures
    Heh. Looks like Adon is an add-on :) (to SSFIV)
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    Image of NeVeRMoRe666 NeVeRMoRe666
    11/28/09

    In reply to Microsoft: Project Natal Can Replace The TV Remote
    You know, all of you negative-ninnys, the naysayers, the cynical, I wish you guys would be more open to new experiences. After all, we're suppose to be the "new" generation, the ones who have had the benefit of going through and seeing all of these "technological revolutions." The old guard, so to speak, is suppose to be out. You don't think people said the same thing about the microwave? The television? The radio?

    You guys sound like a bunch of grandpa's to me....

    "Dang kids and their newfangled weeeeemote....I remember back in my day I just use dere dials on meh television humph!"

    I really don't want to turn into that...
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    Edited by NeVeRMoRe666 at 11/28/09 3:13 PM NeVeRMoRe666 was starred NeVeRMoRe666 was unstarred
    Image of Toasticus Toasticus
    11/28/09

    @NeVeRMoRe666: I jes don't get all this here foofaraw over them vidjamagames. When I was a kid we didn't need no telemavision or cyberwebs to play a good game of Hide the Pickle. We just don't need all this here stuff. I surely wish them there companies had focused on making better pickles to hide instead 'o tightening up them graphics 'n such on their whatsit boxes.
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    Image of Bricked Bricked
    11/28/09

    @NeVeRMoRe666:

    And I don't want to turn into a jackass flailing about in front to a TV to play a game. I don't even want to think about how much of an idiot I'll look like trying to play a flight simulator with motion control...

    Secondly when I get home from class, the dojo, or hikeing, I'd rather vegetate on my futon with my gamepad, than be standing in my cramped bed room flailing about.

    What I'd rather see is a continued evolution of the gamepad, as opposed to this motion sensing BS.
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    Image of Toasticus Toasticus
    11/28/09

    @Bricked: These aren't flail-o-meters that can only detect someone who's busy dropping it like it's hot. It's supposed to go so far as to recognize basic facial expressions. I sincerely doubt they'd hope to provide an alternative to remote control that requires you get up off your ass to use it, after all. Not to mention Natal does not exclude the simultaneous usage of traditional controllers.

    Have a little more imagination here. We haven't even seen the kinds of crazy stuff that third party developers might do with this technology. There isn't much good reason for people act so threatened by this little experiment.
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    Image of NeVeRMoRe666 NeVeRMoRe666
    11/28/09

    @Bricked: Here's an idea. How about changing the channel through voice control? That way, you don't even have to raise your arm to watch TV!

    With regards to the evolution of the gamepad, I don't know how much further you can take it. The duelshock has been redesigned three times over and yet still sports the same basic design. Some might even go so far as to say that it's pretty close to perfection. Adding an extra button here or there or improving the shoulder trigger's is hardly considered an evolution

    No, what I am interested in is people constantly trying to push the envelope and progress towards some semblance of the future. I can understand your hesitancy but with the amount of genuinely smart people running the industry, I have no idea how you can not be excited. Moreover, I don't understand how you can criticize something that isn't even out yet and at best is still a year away from the shelf.

    Don't be afraid of change. The more the industry holds back, the less gaming as a whole can progress. Natal might not be the next big thing, but it is a step forward. I eagerly await the day when we can have gaming like they do in Futurama. I say embrace it or get left behind gramps.
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    Edited by NeVeRMoRe666 at 11/28/09 10:07 PM NeVeRMoRe666 was starred NeVeRMoRe666 was unstarred
    Image of NeVeRMoRe666 NeVeRMoRe666
    11/28/09

    @Toasticus: Teehee. You're good at that. And it works so well with your avatar.
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    Image of Bricked Bricked
    11:57 AM

    @Toasticus:
    So when someone in the room makes a stupid/funny/weird remark and I make a particular expression, it'll change the channel on me? How would that avoid false positives?
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    12:14 PM

    @NeVeRMoRe666:

    Changing the channel though voice control. Ok what stops some jackass in the other room from screaming and changing the channel on you?

    Here is my thing, when it starts getting close to reality, then you're getting close to the point of you may as well just get up and do it yourself.

    For example, I own a pair of WWII rifles, if I have to get up off my couch and "aim" and all that, why don't I just go out to the range and do the real thing. I also train in iaido, if I'm playing some game where I have to swing a "sword" around, why don't I just go to the dojo and do the real thing? I like playing games because at the end of the day, I'm just plain lazy.

    What I'd like to see tested out in a gamepad, is pressure sensitive grips. Instead of tilting the stick to pressing the D-pad you squeeze the grips to turn or what ever ever. I'm sure other people have different ideas they'd like to see tested.

    Secondly, explain to me how you'd play a flightsim or a racing game (or anything with a car) with motion control? I can't imagine Ace Combat being anything more than a bitch to play though motion control. You don't flail around in a cockpit or the driver's seat to control a vehicle.

    It's not being afraid of change, it's called "if it ain't broke don't fix it." The keyboard and mouse have been around for how long? And I don't see people trying to mess with that. Why? Because it works.
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    Image of NeVeRMoRe666 NeVeRMoRe666
    11/28/09

    In reply to Microsoft: Project Natal Can Replace The TV Remote
    That would be sublime. I'm always losing the dang controller somewhere...
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    Image of kidko kidko
    11/28/09

    In reply to Alderaan Makes Its Explosive Debut In The Old Republic
    I want to go to there
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    Image of Pyrefly Pyrefly
    11/28/09

    In reply to Microsoft: Project Natal Can Replace The TV Remote
    What a load of crock. I really wish all these companies would stop banging on about how motion controls are going to revolutionise the way we live. I just want a god damn game pad in my hands and lounge back in my chair and play some great games, i don't want to wave my arms around like a lunatic all the damn time! *rant over*
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    Image of Jordan10la Jordan10la
    11/28/09

    @Pyrefly: "Oh well if Pyrefly doesn't like this technology the fuck designing and making it."

    It's not planned to replace controllers, no one wants that entirely. But just imagine small little innovations to games such as FPSs. For example, you could play an FPS with a controller the same as you do today but when you move your head left or right your perspective changes. Think of those Wii headtracking hack videos.
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    09:46 AM

    @Jordan10la: Jesus Christ it's an opinion!

    What worries me is that focus will shift from tradtional imput methods to motion control, something that i don't really want to see happen, it's just an opinion buddy learn to be more tolerent.
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    Image of TheGnarStar TheGnarStar
    11/28/09

    In reply to We're Up To Our Elbows In Splatterhouse Screens, Blood
    To see games come to such a ridiculously brutal level of gore and violence with great graphics like that is amazing.
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    Image of NeöStarr NeöStarr
    11/28/09

    @TheGnarStar: Agreed. I'm a die hard slasher fan and sometimes I'm a little distraught that games these days don't often embrace violence and gore the way they used to; games that really take those things and make them fun. Really looking forward to this because from what I've seen it looks to be on par with Manhunt or Blood in its themes.
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    Image of Asbestos_Underwear Asbestos_Underwear
    11/28/09

    In reply to We're Up To Our Elbows In Splatterhouse Screens, Blood
    Let's hope the game behind all the buckets of blood and death animations also gets some care.
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    Image of Phi101 Phi101
    11/28/09

    In reply to Microsoft: Project Natal Can Replace The TV Remote
    I can't see this as being anything but wholly undesirable - clearly this is abstract from the potential for playing new game experiences, which everyone will judge themselves, but I wouldn't say that that's beyond question either, since the some of the same points can be made. Simply put, it would be an annoyance, the remote control at least preserves the dignity of its user; I wouldn't want to have to change channels or operate menus on my TV by producing hand motions, talking and responding in certain ways, when all of that is completely unnecessary and contributes nothing to the efficiency or quality of navigation.

    The difference between television and videogames in respect to this is that while you can choose to play games with these features as and when you would like, and are in the mood for it, the schedules of television and its workings don't always work around you, and even if you have Tivo, Sky+, DVD recorders or some equivalent, it wouldn't change the fact that you had to interact with the TV in this way everytime you wanted to use it. You would most likely play the game precisely because you wanted to interact Natal in these ways, and they would be a part of the experience, but when its application is universalised it would inevitably become a chore that distances us from, and is not a feature of, what we want at that time.

    Most of the parodies in the replies to the article do a good job of summarising what this amounts to (Mr Person Eating's especially). The interaction would be awkward, unhelpful, grow tired after a while and ancilary to what you get out of it in the end. It would be nothing but a chore, and I can say that it's only saving grace is that I don't seriously think it will ever be implemented as described. Anyone who finds this an overly-pessimistic account only needs to look at the parodies. What reason or value is there in making someone perform arbitrary actions to say we've outgrown the remote control? And if I'll be sliding my hands from side to side and talking to the TV, when a remote would do just fine, how is that any different from being asked to roll over or sing an old sailor's song in E minor whenever I want to change channels or increase the volume respectively?
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    Image of surft surft
    11/28/09

    In reply to Microsoft: Project Natal Can Replace The TV Remote
    So when I touch my junk (even 'scratch it it a little cuz its itchy) it'll change the channel to Skinamax?

    Coooool
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    Image of jdskeleven jdskeleven
    11/28/09

    In reply to This Is What "Toned-Down" Looks Like In Dead To Rights
    Jesus Christ, that's a big dog.

    To be honest, the violence didn't bother me at all. The lousy-looking gameplay probably distracted me. (Yes, you shouldn't be negative based on a single video and all of that, but this screams 'open world game with floaty 'loose' combat and gunplay.)

    Also, I want to be a 'Senior Concept Visualizaer'.
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    Image of AngryPandaGod AngryPandaGod
    11/28/09

    In reply to Microsoft: Project Natal Can Replace The TV Remote
    For the nay sayers, the technology isn't new. Voice recognition has been out for a while. With a good enough mic (basic xbox 360 head sets work well enough) voice command would work rather well and only recognize the the voices of those set to its preferences. As far as the motion detection gestures, all you have to do is incorporate a voice command "Lock" to prevent any unwanted actions. Not to mention you would save money and time not having to worry about either buying batteries or looking for lost remotes. All in all I think it's just another step to our future even if it is a technology born of convenience and not need. Then again video games aren't a need either are they?
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    Image of NoelVeiga NoelVeiga
    11/28/09

    In reply to This Is What "Toned-Down" Looks Like In Dead To Rights
    I don't think I've ever heard a professional artist sound so disinterested in their own work when they're talking about it. It sounded like a pharmacist listing possible side effects of a laxative.

    Also, isn't it weird how the Dead to Rights series has gone from classic videogame saga to cheap Arkham Asylum ripoff overnight?
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    11/28/09

    @NoelVeiga: Dead to Right, a classic videogame saga ? In what univers ?

    (the negavers ?)
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    Image of NoelVeiga NoelVeiga
    11/28/09

    @John_Norad: I was focusing more on the timeline than on the quality. DTR has been out there for a while, but when I saw the main character fighting multiple enemies around him all I could think was "so this is like Batman... only worse".
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    Edited by NoelVeiga at 11/28/09 8:54 AM NoelVeiga was starred NoelVeiga was unstarred
    Image of pinshot pinshot
    11/28/09

    In reply to This Is What "Toned-Down" Looks Like In Dead To Rights
    Hearing this studio talk about this shit game in the way they do explains exactly how those pieces of shit scribbles of canvas make it into an art gallary!
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    Image of Instant_Awesome Instant_Awesome
    11/28/09

    In reply to Microsoft: Project Natal Can Replace The TV Remote
    I hope the mic doesn't respond to the TV voices too...

    Coming soon to DVD and Blu-Ray, Disney Pixar's UP!

    "What the-"

    Who's our next contestant on the Price is Right? Bernie Johnson, c'mon down!

    "Son of a-"

    ... and it's 100% DEET free. Keep bugs away with OFF!

    "God damnit!"
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    Image of rinerdar rinerdar
    11/27/09

    In reply to This Is What "Toned-Down" Looks Like In Dead To Rights
    If they are going for generic and bland, then they totally hit their mark
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