I just played the first 30 minutes or so of Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain, and I’m hooked. I’m also slightly—emphasis on slightly—less confused than I otherwise would have been, because I asked Jason Schreier of Kotaku and Ashly Burch of Hey Ash, Whatcha Playin’? to talk about why they like the Metal Gear Solid series for the newest episode of Shall We Play a Game?

Jason has, of course, already played scores of hours of The Phantom Pain, and Ashly (who is a voice actor and writer) co-wrote a new book with her brother, Anthony (who was the lead writer of Borderlands 2), about the first Metal Gear Solid for Boss Fight Books. It is titled, conveniently, Metal Gear Solid.

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Chris Suellentrop is the critic at large for Kotaku and a host of the podcast Shall We Play a Game? Contact him by writing chris@chrissuellentrop.com or find him on Twitter at @suellentrop.