On this week’s Kotaku Splitscreen, Jason and I talked about one of our favorite subjects: Late 60s free jazz. No, wait, I mean Destiny! It was definitely Destiny.

Specifically, we discussed next month’s Rise of Iron expansion. Game Informer ran a big cover-story blowout on the expansion, so Jason and I talked about some of the new additions we thought were most interesting. Listen to our conversation in the video below:

Short version: We’re more excited about the new raid than anything else, think the new artifact system sounds interesting but possibly not all that transformative, and while we didn’t actually discuss the return of Thorn, I’m gonna go ahead and say that I’m good with it and hope the quest to get it is as good as the year-one quest was.

Listen to the full episode here.