@Vecha: One more Month: Ya it does say so for the code, but does my EA account tie into my 360? I only ask cuz I had originally bought the first game for my 360 and would like to continue my save file... #masseffect2
I feel like posting an article that has spoiler alerts for the fact Garrus shows up in ME2 and then posting an article shortly thereafter made up solely of images from ME2 and using a Garrus pic as the main image for said article on the home page sort of defeats the purpose of any kind of spoiler alerts.
Or, you could provide a spoiler alert for the images.
@CFStang: Thank god. I was seriously getting pissed about all this talk of not-getting the characters from the first game. I mean, why the fuck would they get you to invest so much into them emotionally just to take them away? And not in a tragic death kind of way.
Now if they just show that Tahlee is playable, I can stop being a grouch. I will consider it a mortal sin if they don't include her. #masseffect2
@LordThayer: I find it very appealing that the characters do not necessarily stick with the mission the entire way through.
Wrex, for example, was extremely pissed about the destruction of the genophage cure that was being worked on in the first game. I like to think that instead of risking his life fighting the Geth, he realized the importance of finding a cure himself and began looking into and/or funding research for a new cure.
While I think optional recruitment of members from the first game should be available, I do not think all of the characters should return as playable simply because players want them to. It might not suit the characters' personalities or their goals in life.
That being said, I think Legion is probably going to end up my new favorite party member.
@Vecha: One more Month: Yeah. It would have been better to have them revealed to us in the game. It would have had that Halo effect, when you first encounter The Flood ( I loved it anyway!).
My own fault anyway, I actually swore to myself two months ago that I'd avoid ME2 news stories. #masseffect2
@Vecha: One more Month: I read both novels and really have no idea what you're talking about. Oh, I thought you were talking about the Collector's edition! Nah, the Collector's still sound awesome.
@Vecha: One more Month: umm...no. I read it- thought it was great, even better than the first, and I'm MORE excited for the game. Why would you be disappointed? #masseffect2
I wouldn't avoid the second novel for this alone, there is quite a bit more in the novel besides the collector's...actually I'd say the collector's had a very minor minor minor minor role. #masseffect2
@Vecha: One more Month: Well you have to think of it this way- the Novel is written as cannon. They WANT you to have read the novels so that you can tie in all the information and have a better view of the whole universe. The whole 'feeling' they want to convey. I don't know if you're a Halo fan or not, but the Halo story is a phenominal one- one that's very, very deep and really great Sci Fi. But if you only played the games- you won't know a 3rd of that story. The books- written as cannon pieces of the universe- are almost essential to 'getting it'. I'd guess the same is true of Mass Effect. Sure, ME is an RPG with thousands of lines of dialogue, but there's still so much MORE you get when reading the books. I'd bet they'll still have plenty of room to impress you with the collectors and their storyline... #masseffect2
No...sorry. I played Mass Effect before I read the books. The books only add to the story, whereas with Halo, the books are Needed to get more out of the story(as how you describe Mass Effect.)
After playing Halo, I can say I do not understand the story as fully as I did when I played Mass Effect.
I could read the books for Halo, but I choose not to as the story in the game does not interest me. It's a fun game, but the game's story isn't interesting to me(as it is...the books add tot his I'm told, but I don't feel like reading the books).
Yet, with Mass Effect, the story was really intriguing and interesting to me that I wanted to read the books...which added only a bit of a backstory and the game expands on this. Instead of the other way around with the Halo books. #masseffect2
This game is coming out in Febuary next year right?
Cos this game has as much vid's n screenshots coming out as Assassin Creed n that's out in a few weeks.
Either this game is going to be much longer than the first, or we are going to know most of the games info n plot before the game comes out in 4 months time. #masseffect2
@Stephen Totilo: Only just 2 days being off February. But still, for a game that's coming out in 1/4 of a years time, we are getting an awful lot of info on it at this point.
e.g original dev dairies had stuff about how folks we're going missing and such, so you know it's left ambiguous as to why, something to learn as we play the game, then last nights video pretty much went "it's this insect race called the Collectors, oh they're working with Reavers too" #masseffect2
@hot_heart: The Collectors. They were mentioned in the second novel, but you should watch the vid Kotaku posted earlier for a quicker explanation. #masseffect2
@hot_heart: Agree with you about the first novel. The only interesting bit was in the Epilogue IMO. The second is better, but not by a large margin however.
Luckily for me, I work for the company that publishes them in the UK, so I get them for free! #masseffect2
Well, 360 owners (you jerks! LOL!) enjoy ME2. It sucks that we PS3 owners don't get a chance to taste it but maybe that's for the best right now....(rather then handle a shitty port....)
Perhaps down the line we might get it, if not, no big...as long as the game's coming out that's all that matters to me.
Enjoy my 360 brothers and sisters. ^-^ #masseffect2
@Rachel Fogg: Just do what I do and buy both systems already. I got a launch Xbox 360 and a launch PS3 . . . and then later picked up a Elite 360.
You guys have it good now. For the price that I paid for the launch PS3, you can get both Xbox 360 and a PS3. It's a great deal, and I swear once you have access to all the awesome exclusives that are on both systems, you will not regret purchasing both.
Right now I am playing Uncharted 2, and in a couple weeks I'll be playing Forza Motorsport 3 and GTA IV: The Ballad of Gay Tony.
And 2009 has been a simply fantastic year for exclusives across both consoles:
Killzone 2
GTA IV: The Lost and Damned
Halo Wars
Infamous
Shadow Complex
Halo 3: ODST
Demon's Souls
Uncharted 2
Forza Motorsport 3
Ratchet & Clank: A Crack In Time
GTA IV: The Ballad of Gay Tony
Left 4 Dead 2
God of War Collection
Why miss out on the other half of all this awesome gaming, when it is so cheap to get access to it all?
And then there is the issue of always being able to get the best version of 3rd party titles. Bayonetta is coming up in January, and by now we have all seen the videos . . . and by now we all know how craptacular the port to PS3 turned out. Or take the example of Ghostbusters to heart. Remember how Sony played the limited exclusivity card on that one back in May, just weeks before the game came out? Why wait all the way until God knows when to play a game that is already out today?
And you know the absolute best part to owning both consoles? You can finally give the middle finger to all the fanboys out there, because while they are wasting their time crying like little bitches to the internet about some game they cannot get, you'll be busy playing said game because you were mature enough to just buy both consoles.
So what do you say. You seem like a fine, upstanding level-headed type. Come join me in glory of dual console ownership.
Looking at all the AWESOME exclusives set to drop on both consoles in 2010, that are going to make 2009 look like the red-headed step-child of video gaming, I guarantee you, that as a gamer going into 2010, owning both consoles will be the best decision you have ever made. #masseffect2
@InvaderPhlegm: Yeah....I can only afford one console. My shoes are not made of gold. Moths fly out of my wallet when I open it. I am a college student. #masseffect2
@InvaderPhlegm: My ps3 is like the oldest sibling, my favorite. While my handhelds psp2000 and DSlite are the 'babies' so they always get my attention. Then there's my 360 who is like the neglected middle child who only gets called up on occasion when I want something, aka the handful of exclusives that I am only interested.
So with all this consoles and handhelds I can tel you it cost a shitload to provide for all of them and I'm not exactly rolling in money which is why I'm neglecting a perfectly good console. #masseffect2
@InvaderPhlegm: If I wasn't so lazy right now, I bet I would be able to turn this into a brochure of the Brotherhood of Gaming and how newcomers are going to face a wonderful time in the gaming universe! #masseffect2
@kickassy: Had the same problem when I was in college, could only afford one game console. So I definitely feel ya.
However, know how I solved that problem? I got a roommate who had a SNES. I had the Genesis, he had the SNES, and we both picked up a couple of second hand Commodore monitors which accepted composite cables (high end stuff at the time) for at garage sales, for under $30 each.
We both chipped in for a Marantz stereo receiver with multiple composite inputs and floor standing speakers with 8" drivers (to get the thumpin' stereo sound from our consoles), and our dorm room was the hottest room on the floor.
Considering that at the time both Genesis and SNES cost just under $200 each, which in 2009 dollars, is around $400, we made out like bandits by consolidating our efforts.
Just remember kiddies, higher education is no excuse for dodging your responsibilities of a multi-console lifestyle. #masseffect2
@Dongus: That's where you got me, I guess. I don't do handhelds. I did when I was younger, but I really cannot stand them now.
I cannot speak for the younger gaming set, but as an older geek, I cannot stand the idea of carrying two, three, four devices around everywhere I go. Having to port around with a smartphone and a netbook everywhere I go, is already one device too much. I really want one device that does it all.
"Gaming" phones like the iPhone suck ass for gaming. Touch and tilt controls are never going to be as immersive nor satisfying as a proper D-pad or analog stick (or better still, two asymmetrically positioned analog sticks).
The fact of the matter is, there is no one in either the mobile phone industry nor the video game industry with balls big enough to produce a proper videogame smartphone with a proper controller so proper gamers (like us) can enjoy proper games on the go, without having to carry around Batman's utility belt worth of devices to get what we want.
I digress. Since I don't do portables, sticking to playing only the best of the best games for each of the home consoles is a pretty simple (not to mention, affordable once you've invested in the hardware) affair. And quite frankly, one that I would not trade for the world. Both my 360 and PS3 get equal love - especially now that Sony has finally begone to output a steady stream of quality exclusives (took'em long enough).
2010 is going to be badass though. With exclusives across both platforms like:
Mass Effect 2
Splinter Cell: Conviction
M.A.G.
Alan Wake
The Last Guardian
Fable 3
Crackdown 2
Heavy Rain
Gears of War 3
Halo: Reach
God of War 3
. . . just to name a few, I seriously feel sorry for anyone who only owns just one of these two consoles. #masseffect2
@InvaderPhlegm: I completely agree. I cannot do handhelds. I do own a psp and a ds, but I cannot justify the cost of a handheld game when there are so many console games to play. Maybe its the fact that I now control the living room, and since it is my house, I control whats on the TV. When I was younger, handhelds were great when the parents decided they wanted the TV, but now adays, I just cant get into them. Im sure their are great experiences on both handheld systems, but I just have 0 appeal.
Multi-console owning gamers: purchasing a future where fanboys are no more #masseffect2
Guys, this wasn't going to happen and is NEVER going to happen. MS isn't stupid, they have an option on this series, and they are not going to give it up. Ever.
Solutions:
Release a Mass Effect Compilation - Mass Effect 1 + 2 on the same disc (a la God of War Collection)
Wait for Mass Effect 3 (when the series is supposed to end, I believe) and release Mass Effect Trilogy (a la Metroid Prime Trilogy)
Release Mass Effect 2 with an exclusive Blu-Ray disc that summarizes the main events of Mass Effect 1 with pre-rendered cut-scenes (a la Shenmue 2 on Xbox)
Or just say "Screw it" and port Mass Effect 2 with absolutely no plans to even acknowledge the prequel
Just about any of these choices would be better than ignoring another source of income, especially when its coming from a platform that is finally gaining steam and was EA's most profitable platform for quite some time.
@Yofu: Notice I said "was EA's most profitable platform", not is. It could still be, but I'm not certain, so I went with "was" to be safe.
The fact that it attained that status at all shows it has potential, and with the PS3 really starting to shine lately, I think it would be wise to capitalize. Lightning can, in fact, strike twice.
@twinturbo2: Actually, I don't even really care enough to get a gaming PC or an Xbox 360 just to play this one game. Western RPGs aren't really my style.
It just doesn't make sense to not release this game on the PS3 if you have the opportunity. Even if it only sells half of what the 360 version does, I would think that would be enough to justify a port.
Unless porting it would cost more money than they would possibly make back. In which case, they should just come out and say that. #masseffect2
@the7k:
Kojima Productions could've used some of that logic when that whole "MGS4 on 360" drama was floating around.
Consoles need exclusives and I'm glad we get to keep this one. #masseffect2
@fanboyish: MGS4 on 360 - while it is a good idea - would have had some issues. Mainly, that MGS4 could barely fit on a Blu-Ray disc. To get it on the 360, it would have had to be compressed and it would have lost a whole heck of a lot of its luster.
The best idea for Kojima Productions was, instead of porting MGS4, to build a new MGS on the 360. Which is exactly what MGS:Rising is. #masseffect2
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EDIT: I take that back. They look nothing alike.
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It's tied to you EA account from what I've been told. #masseffect2
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It'll tie in with Mass Effect 2. You'll probably have to login to you EA account much like how you do so with DA:O #masseffect2
11/06/09
Or, you could provide a spoiler alert for the images.
Either or. #masseffect2
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Now if they just show that Tahlee is playable, I can stop being a grouch. I will consider it a mortal sin if they don't include her. #masseffect2
11/06/09
Wrex, for example, was extremely pissed about the destruction of the genophage cure that was being worked on in the first game. I like to think that instead of risking his life fighting the Geth, he realized the importance of finding a cure himself and began looking into and/or funding research for a new cure.
While I think optional recruitment of members from the first game should be available, I do not think all of the characters should return as playable simply because players want them to. It might not suit the characters' personalities or their goals in life.
That being said, I think Legion is probably going to end up my new favorite party member.
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The mystery is now gone slightly... #masseffect2
11/06/09
Thanks for the heads-up. Maybe I will avoid the second novel. #masseffect2
11/06/09
My own fault anyway, I actually swore to myself two months ago that I'd avoid ME2 news stories. #masseffect2
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But, the Collector's weren't insects in the novel. They were unknown creatures...that would swoop down and take their victims...
Now we know they are bugs...with a "hive mind" similar to the Geth...
I just thought there was more to them...
But I haven't lost faith in the game! Just a bit dissapointed.. #masseffect2
11/06/09
I wouldn't avoid the second novel for this alone, there is quite a bit more in the novel besides the collector's...actually I'd say the collector's had a very minor minor minor minor role. #masseffect2
11/06/09
Yea...I can't swear the same thing as I wouldn't be able to keep it...
I'm sure there are other unknown things! #masseffect2
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No...sorry. I played Mass Effect before I read the books. The books only add to the story, whereas with Halo, the books are Needed to get more out of the story(as how you describe Mass Effect.)
After playing Halo, I can say I do not understand the story as fully as I did when I played Mass Effect.
I could read the books for Halo, but I choose not to as the story in the game does not interest me. It's a fun game, but the game's story isn't interesting to me(as it is...the books add tot his I'm told, but I don't feel like reading the books).
Yet, with Mass Effect, the story was really intriguing and interesting to me that I wanted to read the books...which added only a bit of a backstory and the game expands on this. Instead of the other way around with the Halo books. #masseffect2
11/06/09
I heard that vomiting video game assets is a symtpom of swine flu. #masseffect2
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Zing? #masseffect2
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I'm scared #masseffect2
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Cos this game has as much vid's n screenshots coming out as Assassin Creed n that's out in a few weeks.
Either this game is going to be much longer than the first, or we are going to know most of the games info n plot before the game comes out in 4 months time. #masseffect2
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e.g original dev dairies had stuff about how folks we're going missing and such, so you know it's left ambiguous as to why, something to learn as we play the game, then last nights video pretty much went "it's this insect race called the Collectors, oh they're working with Reavers too" #masseffect2
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I guess I might pick up the novel before the game hits but the first one wasn't great. #masseffect2
11/06/09
Luckily for me, I work for the company that publishes them in the UK, so I get them for free! #masseffect2
11/06/09
I think some of these shots might be for the rogue intelligent Geth that supposedly hunts you throughout the game. #masseffect2
10/18/09
10/17/09
Well, 360 owners (you jerks! LOL!) enjoy ME2. It sucks that we PS3 owners don't get a chance to taste it but maybe that's for the best right now....(rather then handle a shitty port....)
Perhaps down the line we might get it, if not, no big...as long as the game's coming out that's all that matters to me.
Enjoy my 360 brothers and sisters. ^-^ #masseffect2
10/18/09
You guys have it good now. For the price that I paid for the launch PS3, you can get both Xbox 360 and a PS3. It's a great deal, and I swear once you have access to all the awesome exclusives that are on both systems, you will not regret purchasing both.
Right now I am playing Uncharted 2, and in a couple weeks I'll be playing Forza Motorsport 3 and GTA IV: The Ballad of Gay Tony.
And 2009 has been a simply fantastic year for exclusives across both consoles:
Killzone 2
GTA IV: The Lost and Damned
Halo Wars
Infamous
Shadow Complex
Halo 3: ODST
Demon's Souls
Uncharted 2
Forza Motorsport 3
Ratchet & Clank: A Crack In Time
GTA IV: The Ballad of Gay Tony
Left 4 Dead 2
God of War Collection
Why miss out on the other half of all this awesome gaming, when it is so cheap to get access to it all?
And then there is the issue of always being able to get the best version of 3rd party titles. Bayonetta is coming up in January, and by now we have all seen the videos . . . and by now we all know how craptacular the port to PS3 turned out. Or take the example of Ghostbusters to heart. Remember how Sony played the limited exclusivity card on that one back in May, just weeks before the game came out? Why wait all the way until God knows when to play a game that is already out today?
And you know the absolute best part to owning both consoles? You can finally give the middle finger to all the fanboys out there, because while they are wasting their time crying like little bitches to the internet about some game they cannot get, you'll be busy playing said game because you were mature enough to just buy both consoles.
So what do you say. You seem like a fine, upstanding level-headed type. Come join me in glory of dual console ownership.
Looking at all the AWESOME exclusives set to drop on both consoles in 2010, that are going to make 2009 look like the red-headed step-child of video gaming, I guarantee you, that as a gamer going into 2010, owning both consoles will be the best decision you have ever made. #masseffect2
10/18/09
10/18/09
So with all this consoles and handhelds I can tel you it cost a shitload to provide for all of them and I'm not exactly rolling in money which is why I'm neglecting a perfectly good console. #masseffect2
10/18/09
10/18/09
However, know how I solved that problem? I got a roommate who had a SNES. I had the Genesis, he had the SNES, and we both picked up a couple of second hand Commodore monitors which accepted composite cables (high end stuff at the time) for at garage sales, for under $30 each.
We both chipped in for a Marantz stereo receiver with multiple composite inputs and floor standing speakers with 8" drivers (to get the thumpin' stereo sound from our consoles), and our dorm room was the hottest room on the floor.
Considering that at the time both Genesis and SNES cost just under $200 each, which in 2009 dollars, is around $400, we made out like bandits by consolidating our efforts.
Just remember kiddies, higher education is no excuse for dodging your responsibilities of a multi-console lifestyle. #masseffect2
10/18/09
I cannot speak for the younger gaming set, but as an older geek, I cannot stand the idea of carrying two, three, four devices around everywhere I go. Having to port around with a smartphone and a netbook everywhere I go, is already one device too much. I really want one device that does it all.
"Gaming" phones like the iPhone suck ass for gaming. Touch and tilt controls are never going to be as immersive nor satisfying as a proper D-pad or analog stick (or better still, two asymmetrically positioned analog sticks).
The fact of the matter is, there is no one in either the mobile phone industry nor the video game industry with balls big enough to produce a proper videogame smartphone with a proper controller so proper gamers (like us) can enjoy proper games on the go, without having to carry around Batman's utility belt worth of devices to get what we want.
I digress. Since I don't do portables, sticking to playing only the best of the best games for each of the home consoles is a pretty simple (not to mention, affordable once you've invested in the hardware) affair. And quite frankly, one that I would not trade for the world. Both my 360 and PS3 get equal love - especially now that Sony has finally begone to output a steady stream of quality exclusives (took'em long enough).
2010 is going to be badass though. With exclusives across both platforms like:
Mass Effect 2
Splinter Cell: Conviction
M.A.G.
Alan Wake
The Last Guardian
Fable 3
Crackdown 2
Heavy Rain
Gears of War 3
Halo: Reach
God of War 3
. . . just to name a few, I seriously feel sorry for anyone who only owns just one of these two consoles. #masseffect2
10/18/09
Multi-console owning gamers: purchasing a future where fanboys are no more #masseffect2
10/17/09
Did you see KOTOR on PS2? Didn't think so.
10/17/09
Release a Mass Effect Compilation - Mass Effect 1 + 2 on the same disc (a la God of War Collection)
Wait for Mass Effect 3 (when the series is supposed to end, I believe) and release Mass Effect Trilogy (a la Metroid Prime Trilogy)
Release Mass Effect 2 with an exclusive Blu-Ray disc that summarizes the main events of Mass Effect 1 with pre-rendered cut-scenes (a la Shenmue 2 on Xbox)
Or just say "Screw it" and port Mass Effect 2 with absolutely no plans to even acknowledge the prequel
Just about any of these choices would be better than ignoring another source of income, especially when its coming from a platform that is finally gaining steam and was EA's most profitable platform for quite some time.
10/17/09
When was the PS3 EVER EA's most profitable platform??? #masseffect2
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The fact that it attained that status at all shows it has potential, and with the PS3 really starting to shine lately, I think it would be wise to capitalize. Lightning can, in fact, strike twice.
10/17/09
If you do, then why are you bitching? #masseffect2
10/18/09
It just doesn't make sense to not release this game on the PS3 if you have the opportunity. Even if it only sells half of what the 360 version does, I would think that would be enough to justify a port.
Unless porting it would cost more money than they would possibly make back. In which case, they should just come out and say that. #masseffect2
10/18/09
Kojima Productions could've used some of that logic when that whole "MGS4 on 360" drama was floating around.
Consoles need exclusives and I'm glad we get to keep this one. #masseffect2
10/18/09
Wowza!!!
Even though it's only Q4'08 and Q1'09, I'm still surprised!
I wonder what EA released that sold better on PS3... #masseffect2
10/18/09
AND
I stand corrected!!! #masseffect2
10/18/09
The best idea for Kojima Productions was, instead of porting MGS4, to build a new MGS on the 360. Which is exactly what MGS:Rising is. #masseffect2