Ah, the adept was my first and favorite playthrough. The changes seem to be largely cosmetic (more dazzle effects, like a Jedi with sparklers?). The combination of different powers sounds interesting, but I could do LIFT then PUSH to a Geth before in the first game ...
I'll buy this game regardless of whatever Bioware does; but, if they can achieve that same feeling of control and finesse I had in the first game (by the time my enemies hit the floor, they were dead), I'll be quite satisfied.
@Vecha: One more Month: we don't have the context of the traitor statement since we don't see the video or chain of events leading up to that statement. Just like how people sort of overreacted to the whole shepard dying thing. It could be that you have the choice to testify for Tali and results in her not being exiled or not saying anything the the flotilla exiles her. THat would be a very renegade way to get Tali to join your quest. Or it could be something entirely different. We don't *really* know
Well..if it ends up that there is no choice and it is an event no matter what...well...I'll think they need a new PR guy(really...I've played many bioware games and while there are many choices...I don't remember events being that dynamic).
@Vecha: One more Month: You should try Dragon Age: Origins then. There were quite a few times where I was faced with a choice, or the consequences of a choice I'd made earlier, and had quite a morale dilemma on my hands.
*minor spoiler*
For instance, there was a mother who put herself between her unconscious child [whom I had unwittingly beat into a pulp ] and myself and when I tried to reason with her and she realized it would only end one way she screamed 'DON'T KILL MY BABY!'. Suffice to say, she won out with that though there was the option to knock her out as well and slit the child's throat while she was unconscious. I personally found I just couldn't do it even though I knew it wasn't real life. Kudos to the DA:O writing staff and the voice actors for making me feel like a horrible human being.
Of course they do. I'll definitely agree with that statement.
But there are limits...and I don't see how they can make it to where you A.) don't have a trial B.) have a trial C.) Get Tali D.) Don't get tali and mix that with other choices in the game.
Unless the trial takes 5 minutes and not much goes into it I suppose.
Awesome. I'm not so mad about knowing who it was just from the first page title and picture, but that's only because I already knew she was in the game. I mean, it kind of defeats the purpose of having a vague title if you have a picture of the person right under it...
Either way, I never had Tali in my party in my multiple playthroughs, but I'm going to utilize her eventually. I always took the time out to advance her dialogue, though. It was interesting how her people were (spoilers) the creators of the Geth (spoilers are over). And if this video is anything to go by, shit just got real on the flotilla.
This vid also shows of a lot of AI Hacking. I rarely used that skill.
Tali was honest to god the most annoyingly pathetic character in Mass Effect. Her backstory was vaguely interesting, nowhere near enough for me to warrant going and doing her personal quest though. I remember one day at school, a group of guys were discussing their party selections - getting a lot of Kaiden/Ashley, Liara/Garrus, Kaiden/Wrex, the occasional Garrus/Ashley (which I went for after stupidly sacrificing Kaiden *sobs*) - and then one guy said Tali/Garrus.
And the entire room just laughed at him.
I'm glad to see their improving on the character by the looks of the trailer, I hope she's a little less useless this time round for me. And the new Biotic powers look fucking brilliant, I'm definitely glad my main shepard is a Vanguard!
@Ursus-Veritas: I actually found tali the more interesting character in the game. The whole quarians in general are awesome, and after reading Revelations i found them even more interesting.
Creating AI being driven from their homeland, growing up in suits that they almost never take off, living in cubicles for their lives.
@Ursus-Veritas: What exactly is wrong with Tali/Garrus? I had Ashley/Tali and it worked fine for me, we rounded out all skills, and depending on sheperd's class, Tali/Garrus would too.
@Ursus-Veritas: Tali's easily my favorite character, and one of my all-time favorite characters in a video game.
She's a balanced and very likeable character that doesn't seem to fall under any archetype or cliche that I can think of (that's pretty good considering ME is not just a video game, but a BioWare video game). I also love her voice.
@Ursus-Veritas: She was hands down my favourite character in the game. Although we didn't know too much about her in the first game, I'm sure this time around we'll learn much more about her. Also you learn alot about the Quarians in the second book
@Ursus-Veritas: I rocked with Ashley and Garrus. I never cared for Kaiden. When you (spoiler) had to choose between saving him or Ashley (end spoiler) it was a no-brainer. I didn't like the guy the moment I saw him.
But, hey, if others did, more power to 'em. It not for me to tell you how to enjoy Mass Effect.
@endless852: I'd have laughed at a Tali/Garrus combo too, but because they are both techs that could leave your squad devoid of biotic and heavy weapons strength. ...Not because of their personalities.
As soon as I discovered the all-too-rare, high level armour for Tali she became a permanent part of any playthrough where Shep wasn't a tech (i.e. nearly all of them). The revelation that some Geth were broadcasting an old Quarian song from one of their bases offered much more depth to the backstory than Garrus' vengeance melodrama.
If Luke Plunkett had Tali in any of his squads then I'd really like to know why he found her so forgettable. If he didn't then why bother with such an irrelevant remark? After all, even Wrex can be labelled forgettable if left utterly ignored.
The personal hype-level that I have for this game has reached a fever pitch. I simply cannot wait to play it, and to reunite with my, not only some of my old crew, but also my Shepard.
I wonder what kind of biotics the Vanguards have this time around. The one they showed for the Adept looked pretty badass - but then, so did the Vanguard charge that's been floating around too. I wonder if there are any crossover abilities. I kind of wanted to keep my Shepard as a Vanguard again - but I don't know, the Adepts look much improved.
I'm starting to be desperate to wanting to dive back into the Mass Effect universe, but seeing all the improvements that have been made to the game make it impossible to want to play through the first one again. :-\
If you weren't using Tali then...Well she was the best tech in the entire game. Her storyline pretty much tells you this. My favorite combo is Tali and Liara with my character using biotics.
You will blow through the game at the higher levels. They are pretty much unstoppable.
Forgettable my ass, I spent the better part of my playtime trying to shack it up with her (before I found out she wasn't an option). I swear, if it's not an actual option this time heads will roll!
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I'll buy this game regardless of whatever Bioware does; but, if they can achieve that same feeling of control and finesse I had in the first game (by the time my enemies hit the floor, they were dead), I'll be quite satisfied.
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Well..if it ends up that there is no choice and it is an event no matter what...well...I'll think they need a new PR guy(really...I've played many bioware games and while there are many choices...I don't remember events being that dynamic).
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*minor spoiler*
For instance, there was a mother who put herself between her unconscious child [whom I had unwittingly beat into a pulp ] and myself and when I tried to reason with her and she realized it would only end one way she screamed 'DON'T KILL MY BABY!'. Suffice to say, she won out with that though there was the option to knock her out as well and slit the child's throat while she was unconscious. I personally found I just couldn't do it even though I knew it wasn't real life. Kudos to the DA:O writing staff and the voice actors for making me feel like a horrible human being.
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I have played and beaten the game.
I'm a huge bioware fan.
But have not played a single bioware game that lead to choice like sky described.
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Of course they do. I'll definitely agree with that statement.
But there are limits...and I don't see how they can make it to where you A.) don't have a trial B.) have a trial C.) Get Tali D.) Don't get tali and mix that with other choices in the game.
Unless the trial takes 5 minutes and not much goes into it I suppose.
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Either way, I never had Tali in my party in my multiple playthroughs, but I'm going to utilize her eventually. I always took the time out to advance her dialogue, though. It was interesting how her people were (spoilers) the creators of the Geth (spoilers are over). And if this video is anything to go by, shit just got real on the flotilla.
This vid also shows of a lot of AI Hacking. I rarely used that skill.
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And the entire room just laughed at him.
I'm glad to see their improving on the character by the looks of the trailer, I hope she's a little less useless this time round for me. And the new Biotic powers look fucking brilliant, I'm definitely glad my main shepard is a Vanguard!
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Creating AI being driven from their homeland, growing up in suits that they almost never take off, living in cubicles for their lives.
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She's a balanced and very likeable character that doesn't seem to fall under any archetype or cliche that I can think of (that's pretty good considering ME is not just a video game, but a BioWare video game). I also love her voice.
Tali is my space princess.
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But, hey, if others did, more power to 'em. It not for me to tell you how to enjoy Mass Effect.
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As soon as I discovered the all-too-rare, high level armour for Tali she became a permanent part of any playthrough where Shep wasn't a tech (i.e. nearly all of them). The revelation that some Geth were broadcasting an old Quarian song from one of their bases offered much more depth to the backstory than Garrus' vengeance melodrama.
If Luke Plunkett had Tali in any of his squads then I'd really like to know why he found her so forgettable. If he didn't then why bother with such an irrelevant remark? After all, even Wrex can be labelled forgettable if left utterly ignored.
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I didn't know Jill was in this game...
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.... I need to get round to playing my copy of the first game...
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I wonder what kind of biotics the Vanguards have this time around. The one they showed for the Adept looked pretty badass - but then, so did the Vanguard charge that's been floating around too. I wonder if there are any crossover abilities. I kind of wanted to keep my Shepard as a Vanguard again - but I don't know, the Adepts look much improved.
I'm starting to be desperate to wanting to dive back into the Mass Effect universe, but seeing all the improvements that have been made to the game make it impossible to want to play through the first one again. :-\
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I liked the gritty look of the film grain in the first.
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I am fairly certain they will have that as an option you can turn on though so don't worry, it will probably just be off by default this time.
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Well the film grain gave my overly-sensitive eyes a headache for the first few days I played it, but I came to love it.
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You will blow through the game at the higher levels. They are pretty much unstoppable.
Tali was awesome.
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