The red backdrops make me think that they're going to do a CE for 2K10, which would be insane since they've been struggling to make a mediocre baseball for a few years.
The bigger issue is why these covers say 2K10's the tenth anniversary of the series since it started with World Series Baseball 2k2, which only means that this is the eighth anniversary and ninth entry in the series. #mlb2k10
@fauxbravo: Oh, agreed, but I mean, that top picture is one of the most awkward, misplaced cover images I've seen. With sports titles, you need the action shot. The game isn't about the player; it's about the sport. #mlb2k10
@Michael Dukakis: Yeah, thank god it's not just Jeter. Nice to have some love for the smaller teams.
It would have been cool to see Zach Greinke on the cover. I'm not even a Royals fan, I just think he's an amazingly under-appreciated player because of his market. #mlb2k10
I'm wondering if people who take these marketing surveys even worry about legal action that might be taken against them if they leak this kind of stuff.
I've taken some game related marketing surveys and I've seen a glimpse or two of future titles in some franchises but I worry about legal action :)
@Str8_Jihadin: It's very hard for them to track it down (cant?) if you print screen the stuff on the survey, especially if the survey has several participants. #mlb2k10
@Str8_Jihadin: They ask you to agree not to spread any information before they give you the samples. So our heroic leaker is, at minimum, a liar and a fink. #mlb2k10
Everyone, I want to take this opportunity to discuss important matters with you. I have made keen observations but in no way can I disclose such information to you guys. #mlb2k10
@Str8_Jihadin: They're looking for free marketing research (unless tipster is paid, which I doubt it), and in so far as that's the case, they can't expect there to be too much dedication to this. #mlb2k10
@Brazell: I need about 300 more points to get paid $50 so... :)
Btw, if you copy and paste my text in the above comment starting with "Good evening..." into the reply box, you will see that I left a hidden message ala Schwarzenegger style. #mlb2k10
NFL 2k is solely missed. I haven't played a NFL football game since 2k5. Madden's exclusive NFL license is one of the worse things to happen to video games since the deal was made. It proves that EA has an inferior product and didn't like the competition.
I won't be playing an NFL title again until Visual Concepts gets the license back. To hell with madden. #sports
@Striderhayasa - Can we get some damn m/kb support?!: for a while, I was one of those people that didn't believe, but I played NFL 2K5 recently, and I was amazed at how much better the gameplay is than Madden.
Do people still update and download rosters for 2K5? I might go re-buy it, as I had Madden 10 and after playing it for two weeks returned it. It's a broken game. #sports
@casmith07: there was a friend of mine that kept up with the updated rosters but that was a couple of years ago. I don't know if he does it now. Check google. There might be someone around doing it. #sports
@Striderhayasa - Can we get some damn m/kb support?!: there's some kind of editor out there, but nothing terribly concrete...would love to see that game reconstructed. I think the NFL's exclusive license is close to being up with EA Sports too. #sports
I definitely agree. NFL 2k5 is my favorite sports game possibly of all time. It's just a shame that the force that is EA Sports basically canned this franchise. Such a shame.
There needs to be some form of anti-trust action taken for this sort of stuff, lol. #sports
@P3nnst8r: The logical follow-up to that is "everyone should be allowed to make Batman movies"... I'm generally a super-liberal, anti-business pro-regulatory-body commie, but I'm not convinced that preventing IP holders from signing exclusive agreements is a solution to any pressing problem.
Still, I understand your frustration with a predatory business deal that has diminished the quality and quantity of selection. #sports
@Brett Benedict: Well, the big thing that hurt 2K5's gameplay was running with the QB was too effective, even with a spy put on him. I'm sure 2K6 would had fixed that one nagging issue. Too bad Visual Concepts never got the chance. :^( #sports
I think the most analogous situation to a sports game winning a GOTY award would be a documentary winning the Oscar for best picture. There's no reason a documentary couldn't win best picture; they're certainly not barred from the category. But the form just isn't one that critics and voters consider appropriate for an overall "best of" category.
And I think you're right, Owen, in that it has something to do with storytelling-- we consider that an essential criterion for a game that could win GOTY. Sports games simply don't tell stories; they create structures in which the gamer can tell a story. That, of course, brings us back to NFL 2k5, which used the ESPN format to come closer than any other football title to telling a story. It gets my nod as Sports Game of the Decade.
"Criticism of video games is increasingly considerate of a game's narrative, and a sports simulation fundamentally has none."
This isn't necessarily true. Real sports certainly do have narratives - multiple ones at any given time - and I would *love it* if any sports game really tried to model this in both a realistic (ie. non-cheesy) and in-depth way. Some EA games have started to do it; the whole "player happiness" and "media reaction" things are *parts* of the real-life narrative of sports, but these are basically just treated as score modifiers right now in most sports games.
It would be great if sports games had real, multiple storylines that ran throughout your career (so you could really get to "know" the players involved over the years), that changed depending on your actions, that affected gameplay and were an integral part of the game rather than an afterthought. Like, I want to see players shooting themselves in the leg at nightclubs in the off-season. Or deciding to retire, then un-retire, then retire again, then un-retire again. Throw some wrinkles like that into your team management!
This is probably the last frontier in sports games - everything else has been done. I feel like all EA's doing in all their sports games anymore is improving the graphics and adding a new move or two each year that just makes the controls more complex. #sports
@badasscat: Well, Blitz: The League took that approach. The problem there is that 1) sports gamers by and large want to see real players in their games and 2) the licenses people buy into would never allow such tinkering with their product. Could you imagine the Cable story playing out in a game or the recent Volunteers' players' robbery? I can, but it'll never happen. #sports
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The bigger issue is why these covers say 2K10's the tenth anniversary of the series since it started with World Series Baseball 2k2, which only means that this is the eighth anniversary and ninth entry in the series. #mlb2k10
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Of course, I'm probably not going to buy the game anyway, so what does my opinion matter? #mlb2k10
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It would have been cool to see Zach Greinke on the cover. I'm not even a Royals fan, I just think he's an amazingly under-appreciated player because of his market. #mlb2k10
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This entire umpire is built on puns, just gotta bite the bullet when life throws you a curveball, suck it up and slide in a pun yourself.. #mlb2k10
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I've taken some game related marketing surveys and I've seen a glimpse or two of future titles in some franchises but I worry about legal action :)
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Everyone, I want to take this opportunity to discuss important matters with you. I have made keen observations but in no way can I disclose such information to you guys. #mlb2k10
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Btw, if you copy and paste my text in the above comment starting with "Good evening..." into the reply box, you will see that I left a hidden message ala Schwarzenegger style. #mlb2k10
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I won't be playing an NFL title again until Visual Concepts gets the license back. To hell with madden. #sports
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Do people still update and download rosters for 2K5? I might go re-buy it, as I had Madden 10 and after playing it for two weeks returned it. It's a broken game. #sports
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There needs to be some form of anti-trust action taken for this sort of stuff, lol. #sports
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Still, I understand your frustration with a predatory business deal that has diminished the quality and quantity of selection. #sports
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[www.nfl2k5rosters.com] #sports
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And I think you're right, Owen, in that it has something to do with storytelling-- we consider that an essential criterion for a game that could win GOTY. Sports games simply don't tell stories; they create structures in which the gamer can tell a story. That, of course, brings us back to NFL 2k5, which used the ESPN format to come closer than any other football title to telling a story. It gets my nod as Sports Game of the Decade.
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This isn't necessarily true. Real sports certainly do have narratives - multiple ones at any given time - and I would *love it* if any sports game really tried to model this in both a realistic (ie. non-cheesy) and in-depth way. Some EA games have started to do it; the whole "player happiness" and "media reaction" things are *parts* of the real-life narrative of sports, but these are basically just treated as score modifiers right now in most sports games.
It would be great if sports games had real, multiple storylines that ran throughout your career (so you could really get to "know" the players involved over the years), that changed depending on your actions, that affected gameplay and were an integral part of the game rather than an afterthought. Like, I want to see players shooting themselves in the leg at nightclubs in the off-season. Or deciding to retire, then un-retire, then retire again, then un-retire again. Throw some wrinkles like that into your team management!
This is probably the last frontier in sports games - everything else has been done. I feel like all EA's doing in all their sports games anymore is improving the graphics and adding a new move or two each year that just makes the controls more complex. #sports
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