Kotaku friend and newly independent developer Matthew Burns joins us on this week’s episode of Kotaku Splitscreen to talk about the differences between AAA and indie development.

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We also talk Nier Automata, the must-watch Double Fine documentary (which Kirk finally started watching), and Star Wars: Rogue One.

You can listen to this week’s episode on iTunes or Google Play, or on Simplecast here. (MP3 download here.) Reach us at splitscreen@kotaku.com with any and all questions, 2017 guest requests, and fan art.