So I poked the console-wars snake last week and learned a big Fat Albert lesson about people's feelings in the process. Gametrailers, with a longer history than me, not so much.
We've been hearing a lot of chatter about how they botched a comparison video of Race Driver: GRID. In an attempt to show cooler crash physics on the 360, they used PS3's instead — easily identifiable by the controller map in the lower left corner. Doh!
Gametrailers took down the video after getting barbecued in the comment flamewar. But someone already YouTubed it and spliced in comments pointing out the negligence, or worse.
Anyway, here you go. Just shows that console comparison is absolutely the third rail discussion in our neck of the woods. And if you undertake it, everything has to be bulletproof, or you'll get ripped for looking like a shill.









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What a shame indeed. GT lost all credibility whatsoever thanks to this. I wonder how much else was staged and "doctored" in order to push one console in front of another.
The only reason I'll keep visiting the site is the HD trailers and Bonus Round. Geoff is alright.
Whoops.
Screwed the pooch on that one.
umm...lol?
And another one bites the dust...
Excellent music choice by them!
And yeah, smooth move, gametrailers . . .
So does this mean we can stop with all the comparison videos and just buy whichever?
Please?
Pwnd. Though the real question is why they would do this.
Shame on them!
Ouch, there go's GT's credibilty.
Its a shame i used to trust them, but how do we know this hasn't happened before?
that and every Multi-Plat game has the 360 cover.
follow gt long enough and you'll know they love the x360 most. the signs are all there. even in multiplatform games, they play the x360 versions first, well, most of them. perhaps to collect live points, shrugs. to be fair, hey, it came out way earlier so they've probably developed a soft spot for it but yeah, they're closet xbots.
ouch. nice one gametrailers..
Most useless video ever. Why would anyone care, either way? Both consoles have their strengths and weaknesses.
They tried to make PS3 GTAIV look bad too. They showed the getalife building disappearing. That never happens in the actual game, and it's well documented that the PS3 has less pop in.
GameTrailers is still the best video game site on the planet because of Free HD Videos and GT Dollars but damn.... that was pretty boneheaded.
isn't gt owned by MTV and MTV is highly promoted by micro$oft?
This could have been a mistake. Remember when people were using PGR4 to advertise GT5. The fact is these things happen and only fanboys fail to see how a mistake can be made, using words like "clearly". They took it down because they got caught red-handed and not because they saw they made a mistake is probably about as a paranoid of a conclusion as one can make. Oh internet, how foolish you've become.
@Rurik:
I think that's based on popularity of the game on the respective console.
Devil May Cry 4 is multiplay yet has a PS3 cover.
@Eddy666: AFAIK, MTV is owned by Viacom and Microsoft is in partnership with Viacom. And yes, GT is owned by MTV.
@okenny :): That's pretty naive. I'm sure their videos go through multiple checks. Also, there's the fact that the more dynamic crashes where used for the 360 side of the comparison. Clearly some thought went into this. I'm suprised, though, they thought they could get away with it.
wow...
This is why I stick to GameVideos...mistake or not
@Candlejack:
O SNAP IT'S CANDL-
@Eddy666: @Chris Gamble: @jeffram: @sludge13: @bangbangblah: @Candlejack: You're all idiots. There... I said it :|
I hope this is will put an end to comparison videos....it probably wont though. :(
I used to like them. Now I'm gonna take all their comparison videos with huge grains of salt...
@Candlejack: nice find candlejac-
@Medicine Seller [ZTF]: Conclusion... ZOMG! GameTrailers in in Micro$oft'$ pocket$!!
@okenny :):
shut your piehole
How surprising, along with all of their boxart for games being X360.
I saw it yesterday when the video was up, posted in the originating thread on GT (it's a sticky there now) and you can't even explain it away by saying "bad editing". The lighting was different (which is the only change) in the exact same way in those two "mistaken" comparisons, as they were in the rest of the trailer.
They purposefuly took all of the clips on the PS3, changed contrast, and called the clearer one "X360".
Hardly surprising considering they're owned by Viacom who are in bed with Microsoft.
Gotta love the corporate.
@okenny :): Never said that. I take less issue with the whole fanboy side of this and more issue with the fact that a trusted source of gaming journalism lied (with intent or on accident) to it's audience.
Also: I don't own a PS3.
Could be a simple mistake - but the fact that they don't even go through the effort to create comparable crashes for both versions is quite telling.
to be honest, if you need to prove the worth of your console by watching comparison videos, you have my pity.
I have always hated gametrailers' comparisons.
Oh shit guys I saw this in a movie yesterday all the corporations are working together!!!!! It was like Fast Racer or something like that!
If it's a mistake I would like to hear how it happened, must be rather entertaining story.
Hopefully 50% of the Sony fanboys leave after this, because seriously. that place is way to overcrowded by Sony fanboys.. I actually tried to visit the forums. It was like I took a 5 min trip to hell! I havent read that much nonsense In my life.
And ontopic, most likely its a fanboy who didnt like the outcome of the result.
Gametrailers is still the best place to watch game trailers
GT - "and again we saw the great physic engine of the almighty 360, now, if you press the square button among the ... L1.... erm..... *flee*"
@KEELr:
says the fanboy
Alert the authorities!
Fanboys make me lawl.
I'm sure it was an accident.
xbox360...
supported by lots of thrown money in direct and "indirect" advertiment...
plsm$ invide me for your party for the next 3rd place console you launch...
@KEELr: <-- pot
@Chris Gamble: Could not agree more.
@okenny :): I'd agree with you (not about people being idiots) if it were not for Game Trailers track record with this kind of shit. They fuck up comparisons all the time. This may prove that it's intentional.
Any "idiot" could see that they just fuck with the contrast on most PS3 videos to make it look worse.
@Eddy666:
With the exception of the use of the silly "$" in your post, you are absolutely correct. That link does exist.
I don't know if it would trickle down to cause a bias, but I suppose it is an avenue that should be explored.
Granted, you may have to wear a little bit of tinfoil to believe it outright, but it's certainly a possibility.
@Gambare: agreed... No room for fanboys here.
Side-note: You can take action by just not going to that site anymore and telling your friends all about their life got flipped upside down. And Id like to take a minute just sit right there
Ill tell you how I became the prince of a town called bel-air.
@Chris Gamble: Yes Sir!
...oh, one more thing: Earlier today in the GoW2 thread, someone accused Kotaku of being on the take because they'd yet to pick up this story. This is the logic that governs the type that fawns over stories like this.
You have your shit story now and you're all fawning over it and making idiotic remarks like "GameTrailers has lost all credibility" as if the quality videos they host has ever been preachy to begin with.
Some of the reactions I'm reading here are so foolish, I'm actually a little embarrassed for getting so worked up over them. I'll shut my piehole now.
...I think I'll have a slice of pie for dessert after tonight's diner so I thank you for that much at least <3
GT's comparison shots never had any cred in my book, especially when they complain about the PS3's dull colors, but refuse to turn on the video modes that up the contrast if you're using HDMI cable. They do so under the context of using "default" settings for the PS3, but then they grab their in game shots from the 360 by using an HDMI cable so that they look as crisp as the PS3's: What's default about that when most 360s don't even have that port?
@okenny :): I think you need to realize that there is more of an attempt at swaying people from one console to another than you might think. And by the way, the idea of a website being bias for one particular system is not new. But at what point do you go "yeah, it might HAVE been a mistake, but boy they sure do make that same mistake alot."
If it was just one thing, then I would be more inclined to go ..."what the hell was that all about?" and leave it be. But between this, the Box art, the PGR4 = GT5 comparision, and the face that they review cross plat games saying, "this stuff a) / b) / c) is better on the xbox" but then never say two words about how it performs on the ps3 equals more than a little bit off putting.
Am I still going to visit their site? Hell yea. They have some good stuff up there. Am I going to believe their side by sides? Not a fucking chance. While I use to take it with a grain of salt, I will now just shake my head in disbelief.
Well, there was that one instance where a Coca Cola poster had a picture of a girl giving oral sex. It made it past all of the people in the company before being caught by retailers around the country. Just saying, it's possible that it was an accident, I'll leave plausibility up to you guys.
@okenny :):
Kenny, you are a long time poster here, and even got a personal lawsuit filed upon Kotaku mentioning your name. You are certainly a figurehead here.
But what you're doing here is borderline trolling. Take it from someone who knows, you are pushing the limits here.
and the only thing gametrailers has blown is it's cover
yes every ones out to get the ps3
yes ever ps3 game deserves a 10 and all 360 games deserve a 5 but companies are being payed to give the 360 a high score and give ps3 games average scores
jeez fanboys are annoying
It's a simple fact that the 360 looks and plays better than ps3 version of the same game. I don't know why, but it does.