My question is how much they outsold them by.

It's like...you know what the Kommenters are like here, Fahey! You can read our minds...

So let me start - I'm sure Sony has been waiting a LOOOONG time to say this! Neeners! BWAHAHAHAHA!

;)

In 5 minutes we are going to get an announcement from Microsoft saying that it is not true..., we need actual numbers.

"... viciously savage each other in the comments section following this news.
is there any other reason for Kotaku's existence?

Awesome. Europeans know quality when they see it.

So PS3 is doing great in japan and now Europe?

@TOWER_JUNKIE: not by much if they've just announced it...
that aside well played sony!

Europe hasn't been relevant since 1776.

And that's with Sony screwing us Europeans on price.

We do like our tough love.

@Eddy666: great relative to the 360 in Japan... isn't so great.

But but but...

Cell technology is pointless cause it's harder to port PC games! :-(

I knew I was Euro-classy all along.

Wii still wins

Yah, I'll wait for them NPD numbers or VGCharts or whatever first.

@TOWER_JUNKIE: Only numbers I could find said the 360 sold 2 million in 2006 and 1.9 million in 07. So I'd guess it'd be fair to estimate another .5 million in the first quarter of 08 for a total of about 4.5 million vs sony's 5?

Great... I guess this means I can stop hoping for a price cut in Scandinavia and an announcement about DualShock 3 controllers. Sony is making such a killing without catering for Europe that they don't need to bother :/

(I mean... somebody need to give people a comment to viciously attack/cling on to...)

What do people expect - 360 owners buying more 360´s? I cant unterstand such things....

Good job Sony... still hate David Reeves though.

What? There's a world outside of America?

@derFeef: He is saying total sales. Not current sales. The fact that even though Xbox had an 16 month head start, PS3 still managed to outsell them in Europe for total consoles.

I SMELL BLOOD!

It's definitely not a good thing for Microsoft, but it's not really that bad either. There's a reason that PAL territories have been perennially shafted by the video game industry, and that's because they just aren't as strategically important as the US and Japan. As long as Microsoft can maintain something close to parity in the European territory, they'll probably be in fine shape.

@pb00: Yeah.. but its not really going after the same demographic is it?!

Hey all, just curious about one thing.

If you're a fanboy of any platform, did it matter to you that it was, like, say, an American product as compared to a foreign product?

Or was it not even a consideration?

Just curious to see if nationalism even factored in your fanboyism, or whether it doesn't matter in today's globalized world.

Jesus-Christ monkey balls!

Yeah Europe is that sonyer u just need to give them a console with almost no games, more expensive than everywhere, and u make all them happy (Me has a PS3 and Im european of course D'OH!)

So if I downgrade to PSN i'll be playing a lot more gamers from Europe... hmmm... i'll pass.

If there's any spinning on the figures or claims made by Reeves here, we'll find out sooner than later. MS will sure jump in with their own figures.

@[Dextr]: yea. that attitude = win. Just don't look at the world today and your life cant go wrong!

@Balance_In_Life (PSN): Okay, misunterstood that :) Kind of clear, everyones going for blu-ray too now I think

@pd771: Thanks for the compliment. But the Wii and 360 are quality just as much (sans the hardware faults of Microsoft's box). All consoles have their share of great games.

It just happens so that the PS franchise has my most favourite ones :)

@pb00: Wii is selling the most, but right now we're discussing "next gen" consoles.

;)

How likely is it that he's speaking solely about mainland Europe and not taking the UK and Ireland into consideration?

@pd771:

PD = Peter Dille?

@ [Dextr]:

Zing!

@karasu is my homeboy: Sooooo... that "next gen" consoles can't sell more than "last gen" consoles is supposed to make everyone feel better?

@Doomstalk:

The European market is actually worth quite a bit more than the Japanese market now, and has been for some time. In terms of importance, Japan is at the bottom of the pile.

@rrghy: You're absolutely onto something here. Just look at any entry on Japanese sales figures, where the 360 is bombing, and you'll find one or two buffoons going on and on about how Japan hates all things Western -- which is about as idiotic a thing as one could say.

"I am delighted to be able announce today that we have sold more PlayStation 3s throughout Europe than Xbox 360 - even though they launched sixteen months before PS3."

Sony sold more PS3's than Xbox 360? I didn't the Xbox 360 team was even SELLING PS3's.

Must be translation....

Kotaku love to be a trouble maker. And when we start to fight you guys start banning us. You are as much to blame as anyone. Besides, if we were't so passionate about what we beleive in, you wouldn't have any readers and you would suck and fade into nothing. Luckily banning just causes people to create new accounts :)

@Rebel Without Applause: Couldn't resist could you? I don't blame you, I'd upgrade to a pay-service if it were actually noticeably better, but it isn't. So I'll pass.

Go PS3! I wonder when we'll see some solid figures in North America about how much long it will take for PS3 to over take 360.

The back and forth MS and Sony is getting old. The question is not how many systems they sell since we all know that even if they sold more PS3's in EU the world wide total is what counts and we all know who has sold more systems WORLD WIDE and that's XBOX. But good for them anyways. The real issue is how many games are being bought for the respective system and if multi port games are included which port sells the most and on these issues we also know that the 360 is out selling in it's own right. So in the short turn maybe they sold more but in the grand scale of numbers the 360 s still king of all systems and yes even the Wii can't touch software sales on the global scale.

Until they start catching up in software sales, this is a lot less significant than they'd like you to believe. Licensing fees are the main source of revenue for console makers (especially for Sony and Microsoft, who unlike Nintendo sell their systems at a per-unit loss), so if the attach rate for the 360 stays much higher than the PS3's, as it is now, the difference in hardware numbers is less important than it appears.

It was a matter of time PS3 would outsell 360 in Europe. This day was coming. Congrats to Sony and the PlayStation brand. Things are turning around since the poor launch.

Not much surprising for Sonyland. Alas it seems 360 is only doing well in countries involved in the Irak war.

@Rabidsquirrel: That's right. The Wii's going after gamers, whereas the others are going after HD movie watchers. ;)

@lionkitten:

Translation? I would imagine he would have been speaking english , as it was at Playstation Day London.

David looks like he's cooking up a hot pan of smarmy for us.

I'm sorry, I like the ps3, but I don't give any allegiance to sony or anything.

You've got to understand, no matter what console it is, no matter who it's made by, it's a 'Playstation' over in Europe. They love getting shafted.

Only us UKers have taste.

@Stormrider: oh and guess how they sell more software? By having a broader install base of their hardware, sherlock!

Good for Sony. Though I myself will just wait for the end of the year, August at the least, to compare sales. Now, if they cut prices over there they can sell even more.

@JorgieX: 360 is the king of all systems? You should've phrased that one differently...PS2 is still reigning supreme, last gen or not.

@rrghy: In todays world it shouldnt matter, EVERYTHING is made in China and stock-holders from all over the world own stock in companies all over the world.

@megaStryke: I think the smiley means he's kidding.

Suuuuuuuuure you've changed! =P Still waiting for those epic flames.

Anyway, I live in Portugal, which is Europe, for those who are unaware, and over here, people are Sony crazy. EVERYONE has a PS2, and everyone plans to get a PS3. Same with games such as Pro Evo, and Singstar. These are quite popular picks in Europe. Sony has huge cred over here, so this isn't a surprise.

@CanaryWundaboy: UKers? Taste?
seen your teeth yet recently? eaten some british food?
;)

@Chris3000: Considering the 360 is still outselling the PS3 on a monthly basis in America and has a several million head start, I'm going with somewhere between 2 years and never.

@emag: I was thinking more along the lines of house wives and Nintendo fan boys... but you know I think you've got something least with the PS3.. Must be why my Wii just sits there and my PS3 gets used. Your right with the movie watchers, and media system thing. :-p

@Fallible:Like to single me out, huh? That's cute. If you actually had gaming friends you would realize how different the 2 are.

@JorgieX: You are hilarious. It's touching how much you're in love with your 360.

What's PS3?

@mescalineeyes: Dude, are you familiar with the concept of attach rate? It's number of games sold per console. That's not the same as install base.

The point is, if Sony is coming out and saying this now, then the PS3 probably just recently surpassed it for the region. So until either the install base grows far past the 360's, or their software sales go way up, the 360 is still selling more games, which means more licensing fees for Microsoft than Sony.