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Thu Nov 26
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04:35 AM
Especially those of you in the US should be ashamed of yourselves. It is Thanksgiving today, a tradition which harkens back to the Pilgrims of Plymouth. Why did so many people make that treacherous journey to come to America? They were Christians who sought to be free from the corruption and tyranny of the Church of England at the turn of the 17th century.
If you don't like what these clergy said, then direct your ire at the Church of England. Direct it at the English. Leave the majority of Christians who hold no affiliation to these people out of it.
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06:13 AM
You've just as many religious groups in the States making ridiculous assertions about our favourite pastime as anyone else, so please do this site a favour, and pull your head out of your ass.
I could be really mean and mention that your point about Thanksgiving is rendered utterly ridiculous by what came afterwards leading up to Philip's War, but I'll not be so mean. Oh damn.....I went and done it. Uh Oh.
06:15 AM
06:46 AM
You resent Christians because spreading the faith is considered the most important thing a Christian can do, and many Christians are very studied in how to do this. Have scholarly degrees in the subject.
Perhaps you could use a few apologetics lessons yourself. The first thing you learn is that if you want anyone to be converted to your way of thinking, the easiest way to shut them off forever is to belittle the beliefs they currently hold. You'll never enlighten anyone the way you go about it.
07:00 AM
I'm not sure what you're gaining from making a point out of thin air regarding my 'talking about respect for other religions' because if you read my posts again, you'll clearly see that I didn't speak of my own opinion here.
Seriously, your assertion that I as a person resent Christians in itself is an ignorant and uninformed opinion thanks to your not knowing both myself as a person, nor my beliefs in the subject you've chosen to speak about. Is it the fact that I mentioned how all religions have members that are corrupt and opportunistic? Of course the same can be said of the Athiest movement, but we're talking religion surely, and not non-religion. Is it the fact that I mentioned Intelligent Design? To my knowledge that is an Evangelist and Fundamentalist movement and in no way represents every denomination of Christian Belief- is my criticism of one seperatist movement enough basis for you to make that assertion? Not if you're an intelligent person wishing to have a sensible debate it's not.
The fact of the matter is, we're not talking about my beliefs- we're talking about your sweeping and ridiculously generalising attack on an entire nation of people, in what was a mindless and narrow comment, and you turning this towards my beliefs shows just where your motivations lie- in attacking anyone who has any kind of disagreeance with your opinion.
07:10 AM
What? I'm an English Atheist, how the hell does this have anything to do with me?
Direct it at Christianity, they're the ones always making stupid claims and ruining others peoples fun in ALL western countries.
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10:28 AM
"Sheer ignorance of young people today."
Or rather, lack thereof.
03:58 AM
Religious or not, people with power should think before opening their mouths when they know so little about the topic at hand.
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07:17 AM
And yes I realize I'm bashing my own religion.
10:35 AM
There are plenty of non-theological beliefs out there that make much more logical sense, and also theological beliefs that make much more sense then any of this old fashioned Judeo-Christian crap.
11/25/09
11/25/09
"I am going to denounce something I don't believe in even though it will do nothing but make me look like a douche to people that have free will and do believe in that which I do not."
Saying religion is fantasy is like saying America didn't land on the moon. Sone people may believe you, but a lot of people are going to call you an idiot for calling THEM idiots.
11/25/09
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11/25/09
Don't we want our kids to be taught to question things, to try to understand something before taking a stance?
I know that if I had kids, I wouldn't let them listen to people who refuse to make informed opinions.
11/25/09
Frankly, that's why I'm a pessimist when it comes to the nature of man. No matter how much we advance, we're all blathering idiots when it comes to living up to the standards of what is perceived to be a "human being."
11/25/09
I didn't blame it on their faith, just thought I'd point out the hypocrisy of someone saying something is a bad example whilst being a bad example.
11/25/09
So, how are you going to make sure your future children don't listen to ignorance when it occurs everywhere and in everyone?
11/25/09
I'm thinking some form of shock collar that activates whenever an opinion is said that hasn't been justified.
04:21 AM
After all, if they can follow an invisible, omnipresent, all seeing, all creating wizard with very little evidence, demeaning a video game (a game with "evil" in it's very name) without gathering valid evidence would seem to fit the MO.
Living in the UK my view of the religious impact on popular media is probably pretty skewed from the real big picture (as I've never first-hand been to the American "Bible Belt" or similar locations... the Christian pickets are often viewed as something alien and barbaric, though to many, it's a way of life) but from my limited experience, the ill-informed opinions of a minority (faith wise, in the UK most people maintain the mentality of either atheism or agnosticism - as I at least try to maintain a philosophical equilibrium I try to adopt the latter, though my natural cynicism makes the former more true) don't really have that big an impact beyond maybe the odd small store in tiny communities declining to stock a particularly scandalous title... heck I've seen church-funded charity shops stocking slayer albums before now!
I say let these peons think what they will... trying to educate those who don't want to be educated is as futile as adding garnish to a shit sandwich... no matter how nice the lettuce is, you'll still be eating shit.
Of course, there are members of the clergy who seem to be a lot more progressive... generally the younger priests who have a finger closer to the pulse... so if your a religious type, you might be in good hands after all...
Whatever.
11/25/09
If I can't play a game due to the interaction of individuals, then I make it a case to comprise an argument.
Also, blah blah blah religion blah blah blah politics blah blah the children and blah blah I know what's right and you don't so shut up or else!
11/25/09
/Couldn't/ care less.
Wouldn't mind actually discussing the reverend's pitch with them, though. What they take from all of this and why, and so on.
11/25/09
11/25/09
Though maybe I do care to some degree if I was willing to even respond in regards to such a topic. If anything, I'd like to know why they specifically chose Darkside Chronicles of all games that pretty much feature the same content, and to even greater degrees too.
11/25/09
Or at least that's how I use it.
07:07 AM
mm.. (stand by for semantic analysis).
But then you really couldn't care less. If you felt you should care a little, but don't, then it would be "I wish I cared, but I don't".
If you said "I wish I could care less, but I don't care at all", then you're regretting that you don't care, and amending it by suggesting you absolutely don't care in any way whatsoever. That's like saying: "I wish I didn't have any money to spare, but I'm actually dirt poor".
Instead, you would say: "I wish I had some money, so I could keep it just to spite you".
Or: "I wish I could (say I) care at all, but I don't".
...proper form on the insults, please. :p
11/25/09
11/25/09
Ballsy.
11/25/09
Still... it would've been best if they said nothing at all and ignore the crazies. Because, yes, they'll figure out some way to counter that.
It's just a shame that some people can never admit they're wrong...
11/25/09
11/25/09
Then what are you supposed to do?
Damned if you do, damned if you don't, huh?
11/25/09
11/25/09
If Leo wants to make a rebuttal, it'd help if he actually rebutted the actual argument, not what he perceives to be the typical response to a videogame from the religious community. Who's doing the stereotyping here?
As for any mention of violence......... sigh. I'm sure our collective kill count of zombies/terrorists/counter-terrorists alone would number in the trillions. Methinks the good clergymen ought to leave psychology to psychologists, and stick to religious matters instead.
11/25/09
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11/25/09
Such is the fickle nature of Kotaku commenters.
Obama: Use your 360 less
Comments: stuffy dumb politician
Obama : Play LBP
Comments : We love Obama
Clergy: Games are evil..resident evil.
Comments : religion is silly
clergy: we'll let you play games in Mass
Comments : Church is teh awesome
11/25/09
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11/25/09
While my primary console was PS2 in college, I never owned one...but there was always one around me through friends and roommates. Now that I'm on my own and I have more of a disposable income I bought myself a PS3 and retroly a PS2 and I'm having a blast playing through all the games I missed out during my computer gaming era.
I still play games online though. I love Steam!
I haven't bought any of the modern handhelds though.
So the question is...am I a casual gamer or hardcore?
My range of tastes goes from Bioshock/Halo to Zoo Tycoon/facebook games and a myriad in between.
11/25/09
11/25/09
Space Panic was in the arcades one year before Donkey Kong.