The Sims 4 had a controversial launch last fall for one main reason: unlike its immediate predecessor, the game didn’t feature toddlers. Not much has changed in the months since. And for many longtime fans, that’s the entire problem with The Sims 4. And why they’re walking away from their beloved game series.

EA has revealed that The Sims 4 is coming to Mac and PC is 2014, likely followed by updated versions of the same expansions they've already released for The Sims 2 and The Sims 3. Expect more information later today via EA's The Beat.