I can't deal with this honesty!

Strange times...

It's nice to see Sony read the writing on the wall and are finally acting intelligently.

THIS fact alone should cause Microsoft a significant amount of concern.

Huh? Sony cares about gamers? Who knew.

It's almost like they had a meeting in Sony and decided,

"We've been acting like Dicks to convince people we don't make mistakes with PS3. This isn't working. Let's try being... humble? Yeah. Let's try that."

Actually, it's EXACTLY like that. See? I'm liking Sony more and more day by day.

Sony has been making positive strides to be open since fall 2007. Good times ahead. They have my support.

I'm a 360 fanboy, but I like this also. I was turned off to PS3 because of price and the cocky vibe. I'll get a PS3 when I'm not buried under soul crushing debt.

Am I the only one who thinks this is a moot point?

It seems like Sony abandoned it's fans the moment the PS3 shifted a reasonable number of consoles.

Just look at how many of the games/features are overdue ...

i'm sorry but i'm really not excited about Home yet.

Wow, I like to see Sony being Humble for once. Hopefully, they will get it right when they finally do release home -- which, I hope comes soon.

@JamesR87: what else are you waiting on?

This could be genuine honesty... Or very clever marketing...

Always the sceptic, my brain.

THAT'S why I'm not enjoying an in game XMB right now?

It's nice of them to be honest, but it still pisses me off.

Too funny. "Yeah, we kind of forgot that video game players actually want to play video games on our video game console."

Sony gets a cookie for this one.

It's great to hear them admit it, but it was always a surprise to hear people talk about Home like it was anything but a corporate sponsor-fest layered on top of a chat room. The question for me was always "how does this make playing my games any better?" Seems like Sony will actually try to answer that question now.

Maybe I can start looking forward to this.

@JamesR87: Yes, you're the only one.

I've been in the Home beta since last June and could have told everyone the same thing after the first month of the beta.Home was akin to designign an avatar and then walking around a ghosttown designed to feature very little substance
and more of a home for billboards.It's gotten better over time but i still say it's going to be an overall disappointment as it still lacks focus and even if used for extended "game launching" it'll still be viewed as clunky with no real reason for existing by most.Had Sony tried to come up with a 3D eviormental version of XBL that would have been one thing, but to have no real vision as to what Home would be from the get go(which is obvious)is why they are where they are today.

@jp182:

Oh, pfft... I don't think anyone really into games is really considering Home to be a major draw.

I might be wrong, but the impression I'm getting is that the majority of people don't really consider it to be anything more than a neat gadget or toy.

I would of figured Sony being so hellbent on getting Blu-ray popular would be the key that they don't care about gamers or gaming.

home is for people who arent into games? °_°"

Home better have some BA gta4 integration. If I cant watch Republican Space Rangers in Home, then hell, what can I do?

i can has XMB?

Sorry Sony. I'm one person who won't be bothering with Home whenever I get a PS3. I'll be too busy playing MGS4 over and over.

@JamesR87: Sony has done a lot to piss of gamers, potential PS3 buyers, and PS3 owners, but I don't think this is a moot point. It's showing they're actually caring about gamers and not just the $$$.

Now if only all the companies could go through the same things Sony went through. Every company needs one of those humbling moments to knock them down a few notches and re-evaluate their relationship with the consumer.

@DigitalHero: Now if they only would acknowledge and apologize over the European pricing and lack of DS3 here, I would have little left to complain about...

...but this move of blatant honesty is a nice way to gain sympathy and it works... to some extent. They're still being dicks towards Europe though... so try some harder, ok Sony? ;)

The trouble with Sony is that it forgot that the PS3 was a next gen game console(which they seem to be trying to remember lately)and kept tryign to ram the fact that it was/is a full featured BlueRay player down everyone's throat thus alienatign Sony fans,gamers, and game developers in the process.

sony is the devil*!! whereas the awesome m$ that charges for themes,places ads on a subscription service and gives demos earlier to gold subscribers is perfect
:)

*not,actually they wasted many resources on a free service(home)for consumers and
i will download it to check it,sometime :|

@karasu is my homeboy:

Actually dude, this all started when they put Kaz Hirai at the top. Kaz is way more empathetic than Ken Kutaragi was---both internally and with the gamers and media---Kutaragi is smart in his own way but Kaz is why PS is so big in the US and why PS3 will be dominant--as we can already see the rise happening in all territories (yes even here in the US of A).

Now if only he could strong arm Square into finally doing a FF7 remake.....

@Fahey: "Now if I could only get my PS3 working again"

What did you mean by this? Should provide link to a writeup of your issues if you have done one. Just curious. Course if you're just being sarcastic then I completely missed the point and well...should just shut up.

@Werrick: What the h*ll do you mean?

@chrisgriner:

Just more whining for in-game xmb, I hate having to quit out of the game when I want to check a message or a download or something.

@The Whaleman:
I'd say import from the U.S. or Japan if you want a DS3. You can get them for around $60 US at www.japanvideogames.com. I wouldn't wait if I was in your shoes.

@karasu is my homeboy: I'll give you that, it's a step in the right direction.

Obscenely late, but still.

As long as billionaires in ten thousand dollar suits tell us what 'gamers' want, we the consumers are going to suffer.

Give us challenging good looking games, no frill competition, and easy interaction with friends.

Thats what we want. Big three executives and those shitty publishers can go soak their heads as far as I'm concerned when it comes to anything that they 'know' about us gamers.

Screw Playstation Home, just make good games for the system and I'll buy it. MGS4 looks like fun but they need 3 or 4 more games that I can't have on my 360 before they get my money.

It's sort of like Second Life, except it sucks.

More.

@chrisgriner: His PS3 stopped reading Blu-Ray discs.

Wow, it's almost like they had a big meeting and talked about how they could trick people into like them again...

@DigitalHero: The sad part is that I'm still waiting for the consoles to come bundled with the DS3 here, since I refuse to pay anything for the Sixaxis in any way... DS3 should have been in the box from the start and I'm not getting one of those boxes until they're served here in Europe :/

...that or I wait until August/September no matter what and import the damn controllers... *sigh* ...I can only make a statement for a limited time when the list of games I want on it is growing fast... good thing I don't need a new console over summer at least... I'll settle for sun and hot ocean water ... and the wii connected to an old TV ... when I'm chilling a vacation island all summer.

@IronsUK: Resistance 2, Killzone 2, Motorstorm: Pacific Rift, Haze, SingStar, LittleBigPlanet, SOCOM: Confrontation, Infamous, Wipeout HD, FF XXIII, GT5.

And those are just unreleased games.

And I love how Sony can't even apologize without people bitching at them for it. Take your jaded attitudes and go hate something worth hating.

@steliosco: Paying $50 a year to play online with friends and not have to deal with $ony's complete run-around bullshit is well worth it.

err, didn't the same guy Reeves said those arrogant stuffs about 360 having nothing else but DLC GTA? isn't he the same guy that said PS3's fall line up is better than 360, despite that it's [resistance 2, socom 10, LBP] vs [Gears of war 2, fable 2, halo wars]? Of course, I didn't include MGS4 because he officially count that as summer lineup. Without heavy hitter GT5 (not prologue) and FF13, PS3's exclusive 2008 lineup isn't as heavy as 360's 2007 lineup.

@steliosco: There are free themes also, some just cost money.

You have advertisements on cable and satellite also and you pay one hell of a lot more than that.

The waiting a week for demos I'll give you, MSN shouldn't be treating silver subscribers like second class citizens, but still, you can get Live for <$4 a month. I can't believe people still complain about the cost.

@mcool93: In your opinion. In his opinion, the PS3 lineup is better. But I guess having an opinion that's different from yours is arrogant, right? Whatever.

@Rebel Without Applause:

What run-around are you talking about? Server reliability is the key issue here, and you get what you pay for.

@mcool93: Oh, and if I remember correctly, he wasn't just talking about the fall. Right, I do remember correctly:

"All I'm saying is that I think that when we look ahead I think we honestly have a better line-up on PS3 than they probably do on Xbox. They've had two or three Christmases now, I can't remember how many, you know, but I think we've got a really good one coming up. Not just Christmas but in the summer as well."

Amazing, two humility filled and true comments from Sony in 24 hours. Im was almost amazed and convinced they are back on track...

..sadly, the SIX (sh*t?) AXIS MGS4 bundle for Euroland has shatered whatever little hope for Sony I had left.

@mcool93: It's his opinion. It's mine too actually. And he also stressed the point that PS3's lineup is more spread (paraphrasing here, of course) throughout the year (Haze, MGS4 this summer and the ones you said for fall).

@ShirtGuyDom: Yeah, as soon as I sumbitted I knew I need to have written "3 or 4 games I WANT that I can't get on the 360".

Can't really blame them on this point, they were creating a console that lost them tons of money, wasn't selling as fast as they wanted and trying to give free online (at a mucher higher service than the Wii too) so they needed to see some monetary support. It's sad that they lost focus of Home but it's not really integral to the PS3 and for some not even interesting so it's not a problem in my eyes.

@IronsUK: Really. None of those games impress you? What kinds of games are you into again?

@ShirtGuyDom:

I believe that IronsUK meant games that he like and that the 360 doesn't have the equivalent.

Resistance 2 is another shooter. Killzone 2 hasn't proven to be a 9/10. Motorstorm is an arcade racer that doesn't match Burnout's depth. Haze is another shooter, and the demo disappointed for now. Singstar, there's american idol and rock band. little big planet, might work. Socom, another tom clancy style shooter. Infamous (what's that). Wipeout, people still play that game? i thought fzero failed. FF 13, well 360 has lost odyssey, blue dragon, fable 2, etc. GT5, 360 has forza 2 and PGR3-4.

If you have to include games like Singstar, let me remind you that 360 has two dance dance revolution games while PS3 has none.

@ShirtGuyDom:

I don't have the time to search, but he did compare summer to summer and fall to fall when comparing games.

case in point, how many of those games you just mentioned will you actually buy?

Playstation Home will never be anything other than an extremely clunky substitute for the 360's menu interface for live. It will just have a lot more ads. Gamers will immediately wish for menus to do the few things they may actually enjoy in Home.

@karasu is my homeboy:

We'll see about that. A lot of companies just stop caring until their sales figures dip, then they play the "we care" card. Not saying they are yet, but let's just wait and see before we say they care about gamers?

@IronsUK:
He's kind of jumpin' all over people, just chill, it's alright. Your opinion, after all. Isn't that right? :)

What's wrong with your PS3? I swear that I have the worst luck when it comes to the ps3. I still love the thing, but I feel like a 360 owner sometimes. First ps3 bought on launch day, stolen out of my home with other goods. Bought a second one, 1 month later, it gave blinking lights and died. Sent it into Sony, they got it back to me quickly, no horror stories and even gave me an extra controller. Then last week, that same one I got back from Sony, the day before GTA release, it wouldn't eject my armored core 4 I just bought. I tried all kinds of ways to get it out, then I finally called Sony and they were glad to ship me a box to send it in. The guy was very appologetic about the whole deal, he even pulled up my previous ticket showing my records, I thought I would have problem since my serial number on the receipt isn't the same as the original, but they had all the information. 30 minutes after I hung up, I tried to eject again and it came right out. I never had problem since after that. I called sony back to canel my service request, they told me it's too late, the box is shipped from another department, it will go out anyway, just to ignore it. Oh well, tried to save them some money but they refused. Anyway, I didn't send it it...so that's just 1 ps3 problem that I have after all.

@mcool93: Gears of War 2 is another third person shooter. Ninja Gaiden 2 is another fast-paced action game. Fable 2 is another RPG.

What's your point? It should be that you choose what system you want to buy based on what games interest you. Your point seems to be that the PS3 isn't worth it because all the games are just "another [insert genre here]." That's really bad logic.

@slomo788: I do like his honesty but I also find that the amount of talking he's done on both the competition and admitting fault with there own console to be a little suspicious. I'm currently guessing it's a publicity stunt and a way to try and convince people Sony have changed. Before people moan I do believe Sony has changed for the better but no I don't think it's all genuine. When they prove it by reducing localisation time for europe (which is one of the things this guy said) then I'll believe them.

@ShirtGuyDom:

Actually, my point is that whatever games you mentioned isn't the must-have games that