The game ain't that hard people. Just play it.

I never understood why the cheats can corrupt save files. I remember on GTA:SA the games always warned me about saving the game when cheats were active because it could corrupt the save data. I just don't get it.

Cheats FTW! Only I have to get all the achievements before cheating (will never happen).

also if u use cheats, it shows up on ur stats and stuff that ur a cheater...not a rep you may want...

I always save cheats for after I beat the game. Adds longevity. Not that this game needs it...

Should be fun to mess around with, like previous games. Nothing more than that, though.

@mexfreak86: I don't see how these ones could corrupt the save files, but in earlier ones there were codes that gave all the peds guns, and made them homicidal maniacs, basically filling the game worth with hundreds of You. The only way to reverse these effects was to reload an old save, so if you saved over your only one, the game basically became broken as you couldn't turn them off, and you couldn't do any more missions.

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Try it in-game if you didn't know about it.

I going to try and beat it clean. Then I'll go back and use the cheats for some extra fun.

aww no riot mode cheat

Yeah this game is pretty easy. If you ever get arrested more than once then I don't know why or how.

@mexfreak86: Neither did I, til my Vice City save on PC was totally borked using a cheat. There's always a risk, I guess, no matter how small

just beat it yesterday with out cheats, wasent that hard. I actually used to use cheats on all the previous gta's and only beat vice city

Why isn't there a tank cheat?

When I was playing and wanted to have some fun, I noticed there was no Tank cheat and I was like.. "WTF". No tank cheat is like the core essence of GTA. Also the Annihilator doesn't have missiles? WTF again.

Yep used cheats on every GTA to beat the main story except for GTAIV. Was proud of that fact. Don't blame people though.

Play the game like a game and not like a do whatever the fuck you want, and I don't think you really need cheats. The challenges are welcome.

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All cheats including the achievements they disable.

I actually prefer games with cheats, in this case especially - later missions get extremely frustrating, and nowadays cheatcodes are a sign of quality. Even with all cheats turned on, you'd need your 20+ hours to finish GTA4 without missing much of the sidestories, while you'd waltz through most other recent A+++ titles in less than 3 hours.

@RTW: I think because there is no tank in the game. They left it out. Why... i forgot.

When did Kotaku turn into GameFaqs?

I have to admit... The Snow Storm mission drove me to cheat. I simply had to use the Wanted Level code. But I promised myself that on my second playthrough, I'll finish The Snow Storm legitimately. Any other cheats I use in GTAIV will be solely for when I'm just screwing around.

No tanks in the game... Or I haven't seen one yet.

@Xerxes 8933A: Thanks for the explanation.

I remember the riot code. That was awesome! My friend and I would play multiplayer with riot mode on and attack everyone with samurai swords. Also there was this glitch when we activated invincibility and attacked each other with samurai swords we could chop off each others heads and walk around headless with blood spewing out. I couldn't stop laughing when we found that out.

@ShaggE: I just shot the two guards and sprinted for a car.

GTAIV makes it too easy for any missions where chase is involved, there is always a high-powered vehicle right next to where the mission starts, be it a bike or a vehicle.

Also, the revamped FOS of the cops are just ridiculous, its too damn easy to lose them.

who really cares if you use cheats for gta4. I use them to have fun, not because the game is challenging.
oh, so some achievements are restricted, i'm glad i play games for achievements.

"Restore Armour
3625550100"

*cringes*

Also, there is no tank cheat, but any word if getting to a six-star wanted level brings the tanks a'comin'? I haven't gotten to try yet.

@ZombiePuppy: When did Kotaku turn into GameFaqs?

When they let tools like you come here and post crap that has nothing to do with the story?

/offtopic

Like some people above, I think I've used cheats in most of the GTA games. But usually I'd get bored before the end (in GTA:SA I never even got into it) and use them to mix things up a bit.

But IMO GTA IV has a quality way beyond the previous games, and I'm nowhere near bored at 20% into the game. I've looked at some cheats, but only for hints on the best ways to make money, raise your respect, find out what sort of things there are to discover/unlock, etc, etc.

I suspect I will still be playing this in 6-12 months time. That is, unless L.A. Noir has the same sort of quality.

So far I haven't even explored all the possible ramifications of some stuff.
eg. How would Michelle take it if you robbed somebody when out on a date with her?

There is no tank, tanks or any of the variant

@Doshu: All she does is "is scared off"

@AuraHACK: Run to a part of the city that you're not supposed to enter yet and you will get 6 stars. For the 10 minutes or so I survived by hiding in the train station, I didn't encounter any tanks.

@ZombiePuppy: Sorry if my previous post came across a bit harsh.
I get annoyed when people don't even try to contribute to the conversation.

@acrana: Thanks :)

I tend to stick fairly close to my own character in games. Not that I go around killing people IRL, but only do it when necessary in games. In GTAIV, I've also dated Michelle exclusively (haven't picked up a single hooker lol). IRL I've been faithful to the same girl for 20 years. Old habits are hard to break.

I will definitely experiment much more with the "consequences" of being a total sociopath on my 2nd play through though. ;)

Where is the Tank cheat? no tank cheat is like a bliz games withouth the cow level. I hope is added (finished) for the PC version.

might not have "fun" cheats but has fun multiplayer

there are no tanks in gta4 and no army.
ill cheat when im done with the main story =)

@AuraHACK: Nope, 6 star just brings feds. There is no Military in GTA4, just cops, NOOSE and feds in SUVs.

Also, it's not our fault that you Americans spell armour wrong.

In gta games cheats are only good for when you want to go out and rampage. Which has always been fun. Does anyone know if they brought back the adrenaline pill? Super fun with that and the super jump and the gimp suit in San Andreas. Hulk smash

yeah

Why no tanks?
I mean, this is supposed to be a post 9/11 terrorist-fearing New York parody city. It would make MORE sense than ever before to have the national guard show up to put an end to your six-star 'Terrorist Activities', wouldn't it?

Here's a noncheat for ya:
I decided to date Lawyerchick (she looks a leetle like my ex ;__;)

And after a few dates she gives me the opportunity to call her and get rid of my wanted level!!

I blasted a cop in the face with my shotgun, right after the text message to try it out, had it go up to 4 stars and called her.. poof gone were the stars! :O

It's a big BIG pain in the ass having to whip out your phone and scrolling to that goddamn menu in the middle of a firefight though, especially because Niko doesn't know how to run and talk on the phone at the same time -_-

And to be extrasuperreallistic the wanted level takes a few seconds to disappear after the call, you know.. cuz of all that paper work, and she had to make a few calls of course, maybe ran into Betty from accounting, asking about the baby and little Billy.

@Fyren: Two guards? I always got bombarded with a metric assload of NOOSE and cops. :S

Raise wanted level is very good cheat. I've used it in San Andreas when playing with my brother. Raise wanted level then check some place on the map and the mission is to get to that place alive. If he will make it then he will do same for me and so on...It can be quite fun but Im not sure if it can be that much fun in GTA4 since you have that fuckin police radar.

Besides, Im the only one that miss bicykles? I don't care that much about tanks but I loved jumping on bicycles in San Andreas. I hope that DLC will bring them back...with some crazy U ramps...

I finished the game without cheats, its not that hard..
but now i'm cheating like its going out of style soon..

No flying car cheat this time? Booooo!

Oh, the fun I had with that heli... ah, the memories... ^_^

It wouldn't be a GTA game without cheats. Cheats are a part of the GTA series, people.

Nah don't use cheats to play the game, just use them to fly up on tall buildings and bike off...

Honestly the game isn't that hard. A lot of failing missions just has to do with knowing exactly what to do, which usually takes only one retry. I understand that people enjoy the cheats, but, they definitely aren't a necessity to beating the game.

BTW, they REALLY need to just disable auto-aim for multiplayer completely. A person on foot shouldn't be able to take out a car of people in 5 seconds.

Hahaha I can just imagine some wanna be gamer who has spent hours getting now where breathing a sigh of relief when they see these cheats.

Well all i have to say is "learn to game loser"

Astos Green lasers rulz

I don't care what anyone says flying cars is the best cheat ever and this game doesn't have it so why even bother cheating

What I want is a 'cheat' or fix or patch, that when you retry a mission, you restart it at the point where you failed, e.g. the start of a race, etc. and not have to go through all the talking and driving before. It's a pure waste of time and it's a part of the GTA mission design that I think does not deserve the game to get full marks.

@Nickatiah:
I don't think you grasp the point of using these cheats.

Also, lol achievements. Artificial replay value is really something we all want to encourage.

Does anyone know whether this changes the ending of the game, or otherwise messes with the game other than disabling achievements? I've accidentally dumped my Porsche in the river and now I can't find another one :-(

@thinlebowski: Agreed.

@thinlebowski
you can take taxi

@ShaggE: ah that mission only took me two tries, just snipe the front guards - throw in a few grenades and then just pick off the stragglers inside

then once the cops come just haul ass out the front door into the car that's out there and you're all set

Owning the PS3 version, I can cheat to my heart's content without worrying about achievements. I haven't really been using them yet, but I will when I beat the game.

@ShaggE: I found the easiest way to beat that was to run out the back and jump in the water. There is a speed boat waiting. Just make sure you don't head towards the third island or your wanted level will jump to six stars. Even with that happening I managed to get away and beat the level.

@Mendorian: What the hell is up with that spam/popup all over that site you sent me to? Someone needs to ban you from this site for that.

Man I want a pedestrians riot and pedestrians have weapons cheat. It made the game soooo much more challenging. I accidentally saved GTA3 with the codes in and went through half the game having to avoid old dears with RPG's.

I only bought the PS3 version to play with the cheats on and keep the 360 clean.

I'll do you one better...and it's not a cheat that will frack w/your saves/achievements.

Go to the internet cafe, go online and enter: www.whattheydonotwantyoutoknow.com

BEHOLD! Maps...for everything...weapons, health, armor, pidgeons, yadda, yadda, yadda...

@Nickatiah: no, it's not hard but it's fun as shit to have unlimited ammo/health and start a 1 man war, you against the entire fuckin town!!!!