Hes lucky he got that much money, did everyone forget the thousands of man hours put into the game? did you see the credits for the voice acting ALONE? Not including any programmers, artists, scripters, I wish i had the credits to the game just to paste here, it takes about 15 mins to read them all after completing the game, dude. and youre saying give him one hundredth of the budget for the game? $100,000 dollars aint somethin to turn your nose up at. I'd have done Niko's voice for half that, and I sure as hell wouldnt be complaining afterwards.

Primebuster

Jonmad17

building size poster
ads in time square is gonna be in the millions.
websites ad placement
Tv ad on major networks
Cinema ads
All Music licenses within the game, how much did you think Kanye West charge to license his song in the game? $1???
Each copy of GTA4 cost money to burn, print, package and ship.

and lets not forget about the computer equipments, the people who uses them, their salary and utility bills.

slstsang

Likwit

I'm pretty sure others worked much harder than he did and got paid smaller salaries. He signed the contract, Rockstar made good on it, where's the news item?

I think he'd do it all over again in a heartbeat. Let's not forget that he gets paid AND gets THIS on his resume, so that others will want him on projects as well. Of course, with a face like that, it'll probably just be more voice acting.
That was a joke. He's a handsome guy, he'll do fine. This is the internet, after all, and I had to at least get one ad hominem in there or they take away my intertube permit.

ChaoticLimbs

AtomicPlayboy

p_hon

duckmouth

k_dash

+ Watch video

Anyways, when he started, the fee they gave him was only enough to get a really crappy second hand car. Even by the end of the campaign, he wasn't making a living out of it.

DrMekon

Scrooge_MacDeece

They deserve more, in my opinion, and unlike the sadistic bastards some of these Kotakuites are, I completely support Niko Bellic's VA in his quest for better pay.

If Daniel Radcliffe is getting $50 million for a Harry Potter movie, so much more should this VA get for being a part of the fastest selling piece of entertainment, ever.

PackieMcGreedy

I sympathize that he was the "star" of a massive game, but sorry, it just doesn't work the way with games, and chances are a dozen low-level programmers worked 100 times as hard as him for a fraction of that wage.

SuperMaxZero

gique

That being said, does he know how much damage I could do with $100,000... and all he had to do was talk into a mic!!!

Enigma_20XX

RCagent

You sound completely ridiculous.

And yes, he's quite easy to replace. He's a nobody. You could get someone to do work of that quality. Heck, if you're in favor of upping the ante and getting royalties, why not get a high-profile actor? Or heck, get a good native actor. Branko Đurić did a heck of a good job with a Nikoesque character in No Man's Land, and I'm sure he's not at the top of the slavic actor food chain.

Grive

Gam3r

Trancer

Xurreal

kidincredible

Volcomite

thats like the better half of $6k a month.

say he worked 8 hours a day... 35 bucks an hour for a relative unknown, what's he crying for? Did he model 3D characters or program all the sounds and animations in? Did he even do any concept art for the game, no... he spoke. He spoke for 15 months. He SPOKE. No skill involved, sure the vocal work was talented, but it could have just as easily been done by someone else.

$100,000 to speak for 2 and a bit years. There's far harder working people out there that deserve more money than that, but he complains at 100 THOUSAND dollars. To SPEAK. Obviously the fame means nothing. He'll probably get a crapload of work resulting from being the protagonist in the single biggest selling piece of entertainment in the world. But he complains about his pay.

Awesome,

Prime out...

... Sorry, I REALLY need to stress that he got paid $100,000 to use his vocal chords. Not even in a creative manner, he was told by a director HOW to say every single line! Guided by the hand like a child ALL the way to the very end of his job from the start. And how does he act afterwards? Like a child. What a stuck up, arrogant ponce.

Primebuster

Norsehawk

..although, I wonder if he got paid for being used as inspiration for Niko's character model? Its pretty blatant.

skullkid

not_tom_brokaw

i think youll find it does!

and it gets me drunk, ables me to drive my car....

and im highly paid in the area i live...

looks like you should move to the uk dude

juscallmeweasel

MrSatan

Samos42

not_tom_brokaw

Can't blame the guy for seeing the money and wanting a cut, nothing against him - but (as a programmer) I tend to think the programmers, designers, artists, scriptwriters, and everyone else is just as deserving (in many cases, more deserving) of reward for the game. I don't think voice actors should be ahead of the queue when it comes to percentages, just because movie actors happen to have that privileged position ahead of all the other creative staff who work on movies. (In fact, why only creative staff? Say somebody worked in the Rockstar canteen, maybe they worked hard, why shouldn't they get a percentage if voice actors do?)

The fact is that the entire reason an actor like him got hired for the game is that he wasn't well-known enough to demand a royalty. Rockstar know they, and the GTA brand, are stars in their own right. They don't need to get an expensive star (who might be able to demand royalties) in order for the game to sell. Instead, they can pick somebody who's unknown but is actually a good actor, pay them well, and not have to pay royalties. It's a win-win situation: the actor gets good money and an impressive line on his CV, the producers aren't stuck with expensive royalties, players get a good voice in the game.

quen

Oh no, the teenager who makes $12 at Rite-Aid thinks $100,000 is alot of cash. $100,000 in the real world doesn't last for very long, and judging from Mr. Hollick's vocation, he's probably making just enough to get by. Cost of living in LA or New York is ridiculous compared to whatever small town or parent's basement you live in buddy.

p_hon

Strangelove

stop complaining buddy.

ieatpoo

Now, the issue of game developers and contributors (including voice actors) not getting royalties and so on, that's a totally valid point because they don't get the same residuals deals that people in the movie biz do... and they should. But of course that would cut into the bigwigs' pockets, so it's probably gonna take a class action suit or some sort of guild strike (more effective than the recent writer's strike, hopefully) to make that happen...

JRae

Boo hoo. My heart must pump peanut butter, because I don't feel any compassion for this third-world wage.

edifyyo

As for this guy, he is a disgrace. $100,000 for voice-acting? Yes, he did it well, but I am sure that there are hundreds of people who could also have done a good job. I hope that the does not actually believe that he has been under-paid, and is just trying to get himself some free publicity.

duckmouth

tehFluffz

It doesn't seem like he's pleading for more money, but rather just expressing frustration after seeing the game go on to be so successful.

j14rk1n

hikkifan1986

when you have the 6numbers on the 7 and you earn 250,000 and they tell you the guy who paid the ticket just after you win the whole combination and earned 40M then you tell me how you feel.
It's just normal!

doc_DDoublekill

Many people are saying, "Well, he's just a voice actor, he didn't make the game or anything." Bullshit. He provided creative input which, like it or not, contributed to the game's atmosphere. Do you think for a minute Rockstar didn't think voice acting wasn't CRUCIAL to the GTA experience? Why do you think there are hundreds of hours of voice acting in the game? It's as much a part of the game as any other creative process that went into it.

The people who made the game are employees of a company. They're not outside contractors. When they got the job, they knew what they were signing up for. So did Mike, but as the article states, he wasn't able to negotiate for equivalent residuals as his TV/film/radio cohorts. You can't compare the jobs of programmers to the jobs of grips because they are completely different jobs. But voice acting for one medium and voice acting for another ARE the same jobs. Same with writing. That's why they have strikes on these matters, because they're doing, as he said, equivalent work for non-equivalent pay.

AssButt

Grand Theft Auto IV (2008) (VG) (voice) .... Niko Bellic
... aka GTA IV (International: English title: short title)
"Law & Order: Criminal Intent" .... Barry Epstein (1 episode, 2007)
... aka Law & Order: CI (USA: promotional abbreviation)
- Privilege (2007) TV episode .... Barry Epstein
"Law & Order" .... Nick Carvahal (1 episode, 2006)
... aka Law & Order Prime (USA: informal title)
- Fame (2006) TV episode .... Nick Carvahal
"Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" .... Coach / ... (2 episodes, 2000-2002)
... aka Law & Order: SVU (USA: promotional abbreviation)
... aka Special Victims Unit (New Zealand: English title)
- Justice (2002) TV episode .... Paramedic
- Wrong Is Right (2000) TV episode .... Coach

oneasianthug

Witzbold

oneasianthug

~pandafresh~

As embarrassed as I am, thanks for calling people out. I was going to skip the article, which is actually very informative and makes the dude not a whiny guy wanting a bigger piece.

For those who won't read the article (but will read the 227th comment?) the article is not about him going "oh snaps, I want more money" but about the fact that unions haven't established themselves in games and thus, unlike TV, movies, or radio where actors/writers/etc see residuals when their work does well, video game people do not.

And it's worth reading.

burgerdog

royaljester

tehGloom

Thats like selling a car to the guy down the street, and 3 days later said guy wins the lottery prompting the seller to say, "Man, I should have asked for $200,000 for that '98 ford escort, not $2,000!! I totally got ripped off!

Or for a better analogy exchange selling a car with.. i dont know, lawn work, yard work, house work (cleaning service, moving... etc) or what have you.

Don't get me wrong.. I'm all for fair pay within the industry. I believe everyone should get fair pay, from artists to developers to project managers. But I don't believe whining about it like this will amount to anything.

Plus, $100,000 / 15 = $6,666 a month. I know most artists would kill to make 3/4 of that (i believe the average artist gets paid around $45k.. and I have a feeling a voice actor doesnt deal with the same crunch responsibilities and 9-12 hour days that most artists/developers/programmers experience.

asphix20

Voteforme2020

How many programmers got 100k for the game?

EmTeeZ

royaljester

royaljester

If you think about it, there will be a huge shift in quality if we were appropriately compensated. Seriously, big game companies, try it!

boopadoo

enewtabie

Xylophone

acez2087

AtomicPlayboy

Those "suits" also put that money back into the next game they make, which could fail, and lose them millions.

Rbastid

With a game, the designers should get a % of the total profits long before a voice actor. This dude put in maybe a week of work, the graphics people put in over a year.

Rbastid

Akmed

What you have to determine is whether or not his voice acting added much to the games content.

I would say that he could have been replaced by any number of other voice actors, and the game would have still been a smashing success. Thus making his overall value to the project probably worth $100k, for the duration of the project.

balls187 upside yo head

SeedyXX

~pandafresh~

And for the record most Pixar animators get major bank for what they do. Their is an animation union there if I recall.

JohnnyLA

of course i would love to see the money to go to the talent. What i'm trying to say is that if other creative people (programmers, animators, audio tech guys) don't get cuts then why should game voice-actors if their involvement does not influence whether the consumer would buy the product or not?

cyhborg

People like Brad Pitt, Mike Myers, etc get paid millions to do voice work in Pixar and other animated films and no one bitches about that. The animators get their measily animators fee and that's that.

GTA is exactly the same thing, except it pulls in more money than any animated film I know of, yet he got nothing, in relative terms, for the incredible performance he put on.

I konw this was the first GTA game I actually gave a damn, in terms of story, instead of just mindless killing and finishing the missions when I can get around to not wildly running over pedestrians.

He's not whining or crying over it. Just voicing his own concerns about something he's, and other voice actors, obviously getting shafted on in terms of money and royalties.

KirbyMorph

J449

F*ck those guys.

It's correct that if he's crying for residuals you better damn believe I'll be wanting my cut.

6 mo. in an recording studio maybe 2-3 hours a day? (actor_

or

12-14 hours a day for a year, no weekends and 16 hour days when it comes to crunches and having no life. (all the rest)

Again,

f*ck those guys.

JohnnyLA

kidko

Kounji

photoboy

thesycophant

thesycophant

dadeisvenm

The lead voice actors of the Simpsons get $360,000 PER EPISODE. Right now they're holding out for a raise...

The Simpsons took years to make half a billion. GTA did it in a week.

If you ask me, he's gonna taste urine in his mouth for a long time.

darkroomdemons.com

If anyone deserves royalties for games, its the people that make them. If a voice actor thinks he's talented enough for royalties, and thinks his voice is worth it, he can negotiate for them on his own terms.

I think part of the problem is writers and actors don't seem to understand how much more complex making a game is than making a movie. There's this impression that its easier, and they're getting under-paid because of it. In reality a good game has all the steps of a movie (script, acting, cinematography) plus all the engineering and asset creation. Without the 'star power' of actually having their face on the screen, they're just a very small piece of the illusion.. and therefore don't deserve any more special treatment than the rest.

Bael

All of that effort and manpower made GTA 4 into the masterpiece it is. In the end, everyone was going to get paid one way or another. That's better than having nothing at all *coughCloverStudioscough*.

Besides, the dude should cut it out with the greediness. Money ain't shit compared to participation on this particular video game. Did he even take into account that fact that he just gave life to one of gaming's most memorable characters who is also the the protagonist of the biggest hit in gaming as well? Hell, crappy global economies didn't stop GTA 4 from bleeding people dry of their funds. The only one who didn't get their end of the GTA 4 bargain was Sony and Microsoft. God I laughed so hard at the NPD numbers.

garytek

swfan135

Same thing here. No, this voice actor shouldn't just shut up and be happy with what he got. Maybe he and his agent should've thought about just how much his great performance was going to be worth, and try to negotiate for more. Admittedly, there are a lot of names in the credits that probably deserve a lot of money, but the actor should try to get as much as he's worth, not just see six digits and be like, "This is enough, I should sit down and shut up."

NPlace

It sucks for them, but it's rare for anyone to get residuals on games, even people like composers and such, unless they have the leverage to get stuff added in contracts in advance.

Skitch

Meohfumado

ara

For all of those who didn't actually read what he said.

KafkaTamura

Sadgasim

They failed because, unlike movies, the acting will NOT sink an otherwise quality-built ship. Not yet, at least.

OtisElevator

oops i think you just answered my question

cyhborg

cyhborg

sleeptastic

deathletter

Count0

The power of unions, baby!

topaz420

M

thankyou for making a reasoned arguement in favour of artists. i dont think most people realise what its like having a job that could disappear everytime you finish a project.

I find it pretty tough paying for 2 kids' upkeep working as an actor and residuals are vital for it to work. And yes i do work a number of part time jobs at a temp agency.

And no, i cant go and get a job as a lawyer or some other high paid position because i have to be flexible, to go to auditions, often give to me with 24hrs notice. 1 in every 20 auditions or so gets a good paying project for a few months if im lucky. so i cant exactly pack up my job at the first scheduling conflict with an audition, but i cant miss the audition either. So? shelf stacking, secretarial work, odd bits of translation, box lifting stuff. thats what fits.

oh and its not like im too stupid to do anything else. im university educated (1st) i have a masters, i speak three languages (italian, french, russian) and i have a pretty tasty tennis backhand. sadly acting makes me happy, so thats the one for me!

hardhat68

ProdigalMoon

There were 740 individual voices used.

For the person who said a "reasonable" residual is only $.03 of every unit sold, that's 22 USD of every USD 60 unit sold- that's not even counting the 15 to 18 dollars it costs per Blu-ray disc.

SAG only cares that they get the money, not WHERE the money actually comes from - films, cable and television supplement their income with ads.

This leaves the game industry with some nice choices - Spam your games with ads, start adding another 20 USD to the cost of every game, or drop the local guild and outsource the work, just as they've been doing with every other aspect of development.

Or "automate" it.

ishatra

But we also then need to treat laborers the same way then. Give me a programmers union, a testers union, etc, etc, etc..

After all, what is good for the goose...

However, the video game industry is NOT the movie/tv industry. Trying to make it the same will undoubtedly destroy the growth the industry currently enjoys.

Meohfumado

el_pig

To me they seem too small of a part in the production. If GTA had worse acting would it have tanked? nope. If animations, however, could tank because of poor voice acting.

I don't think they're worth it or deserve it, but thats just me. The market will take care of this issue anyways if it needs to be addressed.

TheHun

JustFrozen

just because you can point to some hollywood actor who makes millions and cant act doesnt mean all actors are equally unskilled. A few actors get successful because of a look or style they have that is so popular, or marketable, that it outweighs their lack of skill. the rest of us however, have to work damn hard to get any work atall. ive spent a good 18 thousand pounds training as an actor, on voice work and maintenance, combat skills, and promoting and protecting my product, namely me.

you see when ive been offered commercials, i get offered (if the deal is equity approved) residuals based on how long the commercial will screen for. Why? because being in a commercial that plays 5 times a week for the next 5 years can kill your career. i wont get any more commercial castings, as im associated with another product. This will also impact my castings in all other media,as producers wont take the risk of the audience being distracted by the fact that the cough syrup man is now pretending to be a ninja, or whatever. Thats why i demand residuals for long airing commercials, or shows, because they arent just buying a one off performance, they are buying my image, or sound, to display over and over again, potentially oversaturating the market with it, and making my product (me) practically worthless.

And yes if he complained they would have got a cheaper actor, and yes that is wrong. And if that happened in tv or film, the unions would be right on it for all the above reasons.

It is a really shit job being an actor. 95% of the industry is unemployed at any one time. It requires a great deal of investment to stand a fighting chance, and it can all be ruined very quickly, and we have to make provision for that. 100,000 dollars is great for 18months, but what if he gets associated with GTA4 to the point of not working for the next 6 years?, it can go both ways.

please understand that and stop suggesting that actors have an easy ride. sure hollywood movie stars do, but so do CEO's, and im certainly not going to suggest all buisnessmen are lazy millionaires.

hardhat68

Cheers,

Bluecell.

Bluecell

Do you have any idea how hard this work actual is? $100,000 might be a lot of money to you but it's a pittance compared to the amount it makes for the production company. As it stands right now internet and video game content does not allow for risids for the performers. and I don't think you or anyone realizes what this really means in the long term.

I've worked on video games and internet viral content as a voice and a mocap performer. The sad truth is that you've all probably watched them countless times and I didn't get paid for those risids. over 14 years of dedication, training and commitment and you think nothing of it. This is my career and my life. This is how I take care of my family and you want to dismiss that? thanks... perhaps next time you won't complain when the latest video game has terrible v.o's cause you'll understand professionals rarely like working them.

Herret

I've done background VO's before (unnamed characters, battle chatter). I got a pat on the back...no money. Why? Because it had SAG actors as titled characters, and thus I could not be paid.

Meohfumado

You know what Jen Taylor got paid for her work as Cortana in Halo: Combat Evolved and Halo 2?

$1500. Total. That's for both games.

Michael Hollick should be thanking his lucky stars.

FanDam

It's just the nature of that profession. They know (or should know) what they're getting into.

TheHun

etchasketchist

Bluecell

cong

I do have to say however, the older I get the more money I make (as it should be!), but I swear I get to do less and less with it. How the heck does THAT end up happening? :-P (Cues up: Rolling Stones - Mother's Little Helper.)

NateN

zaky

Okay, so some of you are saying "HEY! WHY AREN'T THE PROGRAMMERS/ARTIST/WHOEVER BEING PAID MORE?!".

You do realize those people are on the company payroll and not "consultants" or "independent contractors", right?

Antlio

I recognize that he has no complaints about the total money he made, but I still have to say this. $100,000 over 15 months at $1,050 a day. That means that, out of those 15 months, he only worked roughly 95 days. To put that into perspective, if he had worked a standard 5 day work week, then he only would have worked 15 weeks. He made far more than the programmers, and he could be doing several jobs at once.

I'm not saying the VA's don't deserve fair compensation, but if GTA were a movie, he would be the prop boy. If anyone were to deserve royalties, it would be the programmers, artists, etc. first; VA's would maybe be just slightly ahead of random testers.

The article doesn't say whether he feels artists and programmers deserve royalties too. I would have a lot more respect for him though if I knew he wasn't just out to earn a better paycheck for himself and his profession.

Tiber

It doesn't help that just about every 21 year old out of college with a CS degree would kill to get into game development!

NateN

However his voice did NOT make the game what it is. The programmers, artists, designers, coders, and everybody ELSE made the game.

They lend their voice to video games. To cut scenes. Cut scenes don't make the game, the gameplay does. Residuals if anything should go to the programmers.

Voice actors, as important as their role is, should not get a HUGE piece of the pie.

FrigidAir44

Mohican

I figured somewhere around the time the article mentioned "Niko" was paid $100,000 dollars for his 15 months of voice work, the (generally young and most likely not gainfully employed) Kotakheads would begin their rant. But let me break something down about how that $100,000 is paid to an actor over the course of 15 months. I'm not an actor, but I have written for games on occasion and certainly know what pay schedules are like...

$100,000 for 15 months might seem like a lot if you're working at the video store, especially if you work every day of the week, but that's just the thing... you work every day of the week. Every week of the year. Year after year. You see money and time as two guaranteed realities, whereas for an actor (and writer, director, pretty much anyone out there...) you have no idea where your next job will come from.

Most actors out there are not Brad Pitt. Not even close. They are called the working class and when they make $100,000 for 15 months of work it's because statistically-speaking the next three years of their lives will be spent trying to simply get another job. And as someone who's seen it firsthand, those years are not easy. They involve a lot of penny-saving, a lot of hand-wringing, and a lot of children with mouths to feed.

Let me break it down real easy.

Say you worked at a video store. Every week you put in your five long days, and every two weeks you got your check. Now what if I told you that every day you came into work, there would be no guarantee I'd bring you in tomorrow? And I don't mean like no guarantee the sky won't fall, I mean there's a 95% chance you won't have a job tomorrow (which is what the odds are in a highly competitive business like voice acting, by the way). You'd start worrying a whole lot more about the fact that you're getting a few bucks a day. You'd say, okay, well then let me get paid more so on the event I don't get a job tomorrow, I'll have enough to hold me over while I look for another one. And that would be logical. Because that's how economies work.

And don't even start the whole "What's he complaining about? I'd do this for free" rant. So would he. He practically did. And of course you would, chances are you still live with your parents.

trippo

yashin19

If he'd pushed for a big fee or a cut, they'd just have signed another voice actor.

Blame the screen (film?) actors guild for not supporting a framework for residuals in voice acting in games.

yashin19

Trai_Dep

His talent is not a selling point. If Killzone2 featured his voice would they be able to sell more by marketing "Starring the guy who did the voice for GTA" ? of course not. Voice actors are simply not worth residuals, at least not in the current state of the industry.

TheHun

Gotta agree with this, there's no way most of the technical developers or artists got paid this much, and they certainly did far more work.

Allaby

This situation is absolute bullshit.

DEVELOPERS: FORM A FUCKING UNION AND PROTECT YOUR RIGHTS AS PRODUCERS OF CREATIVE CONTENT! GET PAID WHAT YOU'RE DUE, HAVE YOUR RIGHTS RESPECTED BY LAW! FORM A UNION!

Atheist Jew

I don't even have the sound turned on when I play GTA IV

AvocadoOverboard

sander_dutch

thesycophant

gloveofpower

sascha23

Puck

Alessar

kemicon

I'm not sure where I stand on this, I can see he has a point, but I'd like to see the money ideally divided up between those that work on games (including actors). Anyone that says this guy did a poor job though is deluded, he was a great character, and the voice was great.

TearsandScreams

ca$h

The profit structure of the video game industry is build around paying everybody for their contribution. You make salary based upon your job requirements, and you make royalties or stock options based upon time given to a project. That's how we can keep the profit margins higher, which keep stockholders of companies like EA and Take Two happy. The film and TV industry operate on small margins (where a lot of projects tank and need big blockbusters to pull up the slack) primarily because everybody gets a cut. Once you're done paying out percentage points to the actors, director, writer, composer, technicians, etc, you're not making much.

If the video game industry started paying out any sort of significant royalties, so much of the staff would implode. I've been working 8-14 hour days for 20 months on my current project. If some guy who did his V.O. sessions over a few days a year ago made more royalties than me, I'd quit, and so would a lot of other people. Voice actors are easily replaceable (although I love ours). Devs are not in this job market.

The funny thing is that is SAG pushes this, you're going to see development studios flee from union states like California to "right-to-work" states like Texas where SAG rules don't apply (but most of us are nice and pay daily rates based on their numbers).

muzza

sisedi

"I'm the one, who survived!"

He did an excellent job, and I can see how it can be distressing to see the game make half a bil, but at the same time I think he understands the reality of the situation.

ca$h

kiigan

A lot of work in games is paying at union scale with a buy out. This guy got a hell of a lot more than what many voice actors ever make in games. The point is, people don't play games to hear us.

I know that, but a lot of these non-gamer voice actors don't.

KapuKapper

Generally you negotiate salary BEFORE you start a job, not months after it's completed. But hey that's just coming from someone who works in the Human Resources field.

mva5580

As far as I know, all game work has always been treated as "work for hire", you pay your staff a flat rate and you get the copyright when you are done. My company works with voice actors (for narration), and I'm pretty sure once they've given their voice to a certain animation/video/etc we are done paying them for it no matter how many different places we use it. (I'm not privy to the contracts, but that's the gist of how I thought our work with our narrator's worked). I'm sure they don't ask for residuals since the animations and such don't make any money since we aren't selling them!

(I do think the claim that all the actors would have made millions by now is a bit much unless they were talking about them collectively as a group. Wouldn't the lesser known names on a movie most likely make less then the big names, even if they had more screentime?)

NateN

This is worked out because (and note I'm rounding the totals up peoples)...
$1,000 x 7 = $7,000 per week
$7,000 x 4 = $28,000 per month
$28,000 x 15 = $420,000 for 15 months

So either he's lying, Rockstar ripped him off or he got taxed MAJORLY. I'm not sure, it's more than likely the first one.

Either way, I still believe he got ripped. It's not the fact that he got paid twice the amount of the average employer, it's the fact that when you look at it from his perspective, $100,000 is bullshit compared to $500,000,000.

And who gets this $500 million? Simple. Most of it will go to advertisers, investors, stock owners, the management, etc. The people who don't get it but deserve to get it are the development team. The artists, the designers, the programmers - all those people. Yes, the voice actors should get a decent payout too but the developers should get so much more as they did all the work, the others just stood by and watched, more or less.

It's absolute crap, and surprisingly, it doesn't deter me away from it becoming a profession for me (me being a 3D Designer).

Psychotic

Sphinx

chenry

aka Bitter

He voiced Niko brilliantly. Made the game alot more enjoyable for me. Give the man a