<![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @aR-Tard: I think the whole MICROSOFT BUYS RARE, ALL GOOD STAFF LEAVE, ONLY THE IPS REMAIN incident may have pushed development back a little

Josh*

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> I remember played both 1 and 2 on my N64..too bad this isn't coming to PS3; I'd pick it up almost certainly :(

(I remember seeing the Banjo Threeie trailer at the end of the second one, and thought it would come out sooner, rather than skip a whole generation. Oh well)

aR-Tard

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @RuneX21:

New isn't bad, I never meant it for me to sound like that. Its just with all the recently released news it is disheartening to see a franchise get a new addition that may boil down to just a new gimmick while hacking away at some features that added charm to the previous iterations of the series (ie: no kazooie special moves because it hampered some aspects of the vehicles.)

If it was a stand alone or a spin-off game I don't think there would have even been remotely this much backlash from everybody.

strix

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @strix:

While true that it doesnt mean that the game will be "better", it also doesnt mean that it will be "worse". Which is what it seems most people are automatically assuming here.

Instead of constantly criticizing titles that are not even out yet for trying differant things, wouldnt it be better to show more optimism and look at the good side of things? Maybe the possibilities that make one possibly enjoy something more. Not talking to strix directly with this last comment, but when I see poeple complain massively about how something has been entirely ruined because its not the way it used to be 20 years ago it makes me think this world has been overtaken with fanboys.(ill let others think of the reason why it does so)

RuneX21

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> New options do not necessarily always mean the game will be "better."

It is a bit of a disappointment to me that rare is focusing heavy on the vehicle concept according to the article.

Like very few new features in games it might be really neat and revolutionary but chances are it is going to schlump down into the category most "new" features in games come off as, which is cheap gimmicks.

I'll keep my eye on it since I loved the older banjo kazooie's but recently (gamecube and beyond) rareware might as well rename themselves to shovelware.

strix

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Funny that Nintendo lost Rare and they now make a game that sounds perfect for the Wii. Any word on if that rumored xbox wiimote clone is real or not? Sounds like it would be perfect for this type of game (and the wii)

GPman

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Hmm...I guess I could get an Xbox for all the other games I can't play on the Wii...and I'll just leave Banjo on the side over there...wishing it wasn't like it was...wishing it was like the old days...

...oh how the 90s have left us...

JGab

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> And I just lost interest.

OMGitsDarkMatter

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Banjo Kazooie: Nails and Coffins.

Josh*

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Check out this TeamXbox MB post, it has some great pics- one showing vehicle building and a pic of a bunch of the parts:
[forum.teamxbox.com]

Thyrfing

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> I guess I'm the only one who thinks this sounds cool. Take the platforming which was already great and add a vehicle building mechanic, not just riding vehicles, but building them from parts you find in the game world. I dunno, sounds pretty fun to me.

Gray665

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Sounds good to me. Crash Bandicoot: Warped had a heavy focus on vehicles and it was one of the best platformers I ever played. Bring on Banjo-Kazooie.

Natpalm

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @Delano_J: I want original gameplay sometimes, but i think its stupid to change around an old IP into something it isnt. I know im jumping the gun here, and if there is a lot of 3d platforming ill be pleased, but if rare wanted to try somethhing new and original why didnt they just make a whole new original IP? I doubt they will shoe-horn vehicles into BK, but i wont be surprised if they change BK into something thats not BK. I like original gameplay ideas as much as the next guy, but sometimes i like shit to stay the way i remember it too.

smuckers is good

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Really not liking the vehicles thing. Sounds like it pretty much get rid of the use of Kazooie. Why fly with her when I can just use a helicopter. Why get the rubber boots when I can build a hovercraft? I'm sure the platforming elements will be great I'm just worried it will be along the lines of "Run around the level until you find the vehicle store" not to mention the obligatory races that you just KNOW there is.
My want level for this game just dropped.

Deekman

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> vehicles? really?... all i can say is...meh

smuckers is good

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Seems like Rachet & Clank meets Lego Star Wars meets Super Mario 64. Which is incredibly awesome in my book.

Superstar90

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Anyone else think it would be easy to build the vehicles using some kind of Wii remote clone? Hmmm?

TeaBean

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> When I read this news I was actually happy. But I have to admit I'm not a previous follower of the Banjo and Kazooie series so I have less or nothing to judge against. All I have to say is this sounds like just the game to be able to compete against Little Big Planet, which in my book is a good thing as a 360 owner.

Nolite

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Coconut schlepping? Sounds stupid. I do like the idea of vehicle customization, but I hope they can come up with some missions more interesting than hauling coconuts to and fro.

I also wish this wasnt Banjo Kazooie. This is not the Banjo Kazooie I was looking for. It sounds cool, but they could have just as easily made it a new IP like they made Viva Pinata. Seems like they're just bastardizing Banjo. Take a beloved character and throw him into your new IP, that way you get all the hype you'd get if you just made a new game with said beloved character! Nope, I don't like that idea. Chalk this up in the "Skeptical" box for me. Rare has STILL not made a single product that I've enjoyed since leaving Nintendo. Damn! I was hoping Banjo would pull it out, now my hope has dwindled. Maybe I'll be surprised and get an enjoyable experience when it's out, but I'm not going to get my hopes up.

我不是中国人。

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> I want to try to avoid jumping on the "omg Rare teh sux, not platformer!!1!" bandwagon for now, but hopefully some gameplay footage will make this new emphasis of the game seem a bit more fun.

I have no problem with vehicles since various platformers use them (ratchet, jak, sly, etc.) but I still want to jump around and collect a ridiculous amount of completely unnecessary items.

Mech_Master

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @Xiedo: The Animal Buddies in the DK series were one aspect, but they were often a "bonus" to completed the platforming elements in the series.

With the exception of Squawks, and any level in which you became an animal buddy, they were never required to clear a stage. (At least that I can remember)

While these vehicles are an interesting *bonus*, I'd hate to see the entire focus of the game be "Collect 100 pieces to build me a helicopter so I can collect 100 coconuts!"

Now I know RARE is notorious for it's fetchquests, but this whole vehicle thing....it could get ugly.

TRT-X

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Of course the Danish site compares it to building with Legos. It is the only frame of reference they have.

*note: no offense meant to the fine people of Denmark or their Functionalist, non-Lego architecture*

themunk

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> It's not the hehicles that bug me. It's the fact that they seem to be the core part of the gameplay.

I'd rather have something more traditional.

Well, let's scratch for another possible mediocre Rare game. If this is a good title (and I stress the word "if") then I will be very impressed and surprised.

GuardianEarth

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Mr. Pie. No I'm sure they don't realize how many jokes "nuts" implies. That whole "mumbo's nuts" was surely just an unfortunate accident.

After all, Rare would never intentionally put innuendo in the game. Misstakes do happen though, like that bar menu in Tooie that said "seaman's surprise".

Sebbe

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Some of you guys are hillarious. Judging a game because it has a new feature. Did they say anywhere in that text that Banjo will be leaving the whole platformer idea? No they didn't. It's just some new details. I mean you would all be complaining if they didn't try anything new. One day you will all realise how foolish you are in prejudging games by a minute ammount of information regarding it.

Eon.

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Nuts........ really....... NUTS!? NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTS...!??? T_T why, oh, why? NUTS! freaking NUTS.... do you freaking realize how many jokes that name implies ? NUTSSSSSS!!!!!

Mr. Pie

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @Fadakar:

Nintendo sold Rare to Microsoft willingly, they did not "leave" Nintendo in the sense of walking out the door on them.

Lijik

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> The vehicles sound cool to me. I'm more disappointed that the name isn't funny.

bonnebonne

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Rareware, Rareware, what hast thou donest...

cheeseboybeans

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Well I'll give them this. It sure is original!

I'll have to wait for the reviews; hopefully there's a demo so i can give it a whirl before deciding.

Looks gorgeous though.

string_theory

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> This saddens me to no end. I was so looking forward to another Banjo-Kazooie experience-- the first was darn near perfect to me, and the second was only hampered by framerate issues (albeit big issues).

I think we need more of those traditional 3D platformers- the only really good recent ones I can recall are Mario Galaxy and Ratchet and Clank, and neither of those is on 360 and two titles is just not enough.

EmTeeZ

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> "Why aren't game developers trying to deliver more original gameplay?

What?!? Building vehicles? The hell with that, I want an old-school platformer."

Seriously.

Delano_J

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Also, 1600 parts doesn't mean you have to collect them all, or that they will even necessarily be found in 1600 different locations. They need to give us a shit-ton of pieces so we can build unique and varied contraptions, yes?

No one is complaining about how many objects they make available for you to build things out of in Little Big Planet.

I mean seriously, would people be happier if they only had 160 parts?

Ess

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> This comment thread is brutal.

This could be great. Imagine a platformer where instead of being taksed with collecting useless orbs of some kind (or coins, or stars, or were simply asked to reach the end), you collected building blocks. Then instead of simply exiting the level as you would in a typical platformer, you had to put those blocks together to create a device to solve some larger meta-puzzle.

i.e. carrying a bunch of coconuts, winning a race, jumping over a chasm, or running a gauntlet of enemies.

That would be awesome. No?

Aren't we happy to have a vehicle creation engine in BK? How is that possibly being construed by all of you as a bad thing?

Have any of you ever seen the show: "Junkyard Wars?" Imagine that with platforming.

Ess

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Is that a Chomp?

boosebaster

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> I'm not very happy about vehicles being in the game. I was never one to enoy those sections in platformers. I'm also not impressed by the name either, which reminds me of "Ratchet and Clank".

I've been a fan of this series ever since the first one came out, I have a lot of childhood memories riding on this game and I hope it delivers.

kylo4

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> "but will have a heavy focus on vehicles and vehicle building"

Swing and a miss.

Hyperfludd

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Heheh, sounds like Banjo is trying to pull off a Ratchet & Clank-esque title here rather than lazily imitate Mario as usual.

As I've said time and again: Microsoft buying out Rareware from Nintendo was nothing more than a publicity stunt, in the hopes that gamers would buy an Xbox (which worked, because my friends feeling betrayed all bought one). Its employees, British charm, wit, spark, heart and soul are all gone.

humongous_mouse

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @Tiberian: I went to the link and all that was talked about was the vehicles. I'm pretty sure the vehicles are going to be a major part of the game.
This reminds me of Mario Sunshine and FLUDD. Only you didn't have to rebuild and gather parts for FLUDD. As a an idea on paper, it sounds like this could be a good game with a huge pain in the ass feature everyone could have done without.

marmidukestank

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Until we get more details im not making an opinion on this.

lost_in_hollywood

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Agh! Please let this be wrong! We need platformers!

hagridore

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> My Banjo Kazooie 3 wishlist:

1) Less collectathon
2) More platforming

And their reply is "let's collect 1600 vehicle parts with less emphasis on platforming.

Looks like I'm 0 for 2. No thanks.

Korey

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> As someone who's never even collected all 100 (or is it 120?) stars in a Mario game or collected all of anything in any game, this 1600 parts thing frightens me and makes me want to crawl back into the comforting embrace of a familiar old-school platformer. Also makes me wonder why Rare decided to mess with their formula to such an extent. Esp. when they've already got a "collect crap and build more crap with it" franchise going with Viva Pinata.

Note: Just remembered as I was about to hit "submit" that I did manage to collect and eat all food items in Dead Rising. But that was the exception to the rule. And I like to eat.

Sloopydrew

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @eunoia: On the other hand, there's Grabbed by the Ghoulies.

To look at this a bit more subjectively...

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Not bad by any stretch of the mind, but those scores are also significantly lower than what Rare's N64 titles averaged...

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With the exception of Jet Force Gemini, which also pulled an 81%, every one of Rare's N64 titles averaged reviews that were around 90%.

Everything since then, regardless of console, has had a much lower average review score. I don't agree with tireddriver. That said, it isn't hard to argue that they aren't as successful now as they used to be.

spiderweb1986

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @tiredriver: because...

star fox adventures was such a hit eh?

Kameo, PDZ, viva all rock solid games that have scored well on the 360.

eunoia

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> It seems to me that Nintendo provided the compass for Rare and now they are entirely lost. Waste of 250m. Nice business transaction Nintendo !!!!

tiredriver

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> [360.kombo.com]

eunoia

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> wait... just because a platforming game has vehicles it's no longer a platforming game?

Mario could fly in SM3 and SMG, does that mean it wasn't a platforming game? Sheesh , rare went on the record to say there will be a lot of platforming.

Anways, I hope I can take my creation out on a test track on live... and race.

eunoia

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @SAGA:
QFT

Blarg

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> This is fairly disappointing to me. I also wanted an Old School Banjo clone with some new features.

I hate most action/adventure games with vehicles.

Though... It could turn out to be fun with so much customization ala Viva Pinata.

Inverse Logic

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Wow that fucking sucks, I was really just hoping for a straight up platformer, there really aren't enough good ones on the 360.

Blarg

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @Guild_Navigator:
so true... but I've never been a fan of the "build your own vehicle" thing =///// never had a good experience with it

hrabbit

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> At least they're trying something new. On a side note I LOVE Legos. I loved the original but i'm really excited to see what creative direction this series will take.

Nexus6

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Boy, let's wait till the baby's out of the womb before we throw it to the vultures, people.

Guild_Navigator

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Hm, this could be an interesting title, but completely goes against the trailer and banjos roots.
In fact, they'd probably better create new main characters for this or they'll end up pissing off banjo fans.
Wait, they already did. Ah well, might aswell roll with the punches.

Nirual

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @TheDaftPunk: How old are you? I was like 15 when B&K came out...

ByeBye

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @rbernard80: I can't believe the thread made it to ~90 comments without anyone making that joke.

Good show, sir!

spiderweb1986

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @Sollus: "Mediocre franchise?"

Let me ask you a question: have you ever played the other two* games in the series? If those are your definition of "mediocre franchise," I'd love to hear what you think is better than it.

The two Banjo-Kazooie games were two of the best titles the N64 saw, and off the top of my head I can't think of many 3D platformers that are better than them. There are some, yes, but the list isn't a long one.

*No, the GBA game doesn't count. I think we can all agree to forget about that one.

spiderweb1986

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> The coconut carrying suitability of the helicopter is of course heavily dependent on whether it's an African or a European helicopter.

rbernard80

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> I think this sounds like an awesome idea. Everyone is always complaining that platformers are so generic, just go there, jump over this, collect this, etc.
Lego-esque vehicle construction should add enough variety to make things interesting.

And besides, everyone knows that anything is better with legos.

LazerChachi

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @mind in rewind: I didn't know anyone had released impressions of it yet. Do you have a link or anything to them?

PatMan33

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> *Silently nods head from left to right...*

Well Banjo, you had two good games.

What's next, a Conker FPS?!

chemical_eng_mx

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @mind in rewind: You know, the people who have seen more than a couple of leaked screenshots.

mind in rewind

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> It sounds amazing.

It's getting a great response from the people who played it.

mind in rewind

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Oh my god. This makes SO MUCH SENSE after the interview I just had last week... "Lego-like vehicles" hahaha.

RealmRPGer

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> *still waiting for Banjo-Threeie* siiiiiiiiiiiiigh

Spamwise14

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Hopefully this isn't such a travesty that it mars the good name of its predecessors... I still want to be able to play them without sighing and wondering what the hell happened.

I'll keep my fingers crossed for this game, which is called Banjo-Threeie.

PatMan33

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> So we go from Banjo Kazooi to a lego-esqe Diddy Kong Racing?

System_Zero

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @AZRoboto:

Hmm, kameo was an amazing game. However, as its pretty much the only real platformer style game on the console with any quality to it, this game needed to fill a void.

Now, that said, I dont see why everyone is so down on the title so fast. I mean, they are just saying that vehicles are a focal point for the game, nowhere does it say that the platforming elements from the past are gone. Rather, its my understanding that they are just incorporating the new vehicle elements into the old style of play. And lets be honest with ourselves, did we really want the same old BK game from 10 years ago remade wiht HD graphics and no new gameplay elements? I know I didnt, I for one like change in my games, otherwise it feels like im just playing something I played 20 years ago and I end up throwing it on the shelf after 10minutes.

RuneX21

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Is anyone else thinking Garry's mod with a bird on your back?
Cuz that could be cool.

ggodo

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> UGH, no more gimics. I want a regular platformer, why do they not exist anymore?

SAGA

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @slomo788:
"So suddenly user-created content is a bad thing, right?"

NOOOOOO nononononono. Please, don't misunderstand me. I'm talking about ME. I had big fun with Halo 3. Then I went into Forge and, within 5 seconds, I realized that I really didn't want to do this. I'm not really interested in the tedious nature of generating my own content to that extent.

Forge seemed to be something people praised but not many actually did much with it. Some did, but not many. I still don't know if gamers are really into user-created content that much. That's why something like this (Banjo) may be more palatable to my taste. Maybe not. We'll just have to see.

DARTH_TIGRIS

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @Sollus: yeah i know it's an old franchise. i was talking about the new mechanics being introduced. it's stupid because some people were already complaining that it's not gonna be good and that they should have stuck to the original gameplay even though all theyre reading are certain details about the game.

mcdufus

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Banjo Kazooie: Legos Spinoff? Awesome. Lack of Banjo Threeie and getting this instead? Major bummer.

I love the idea, but come on Rare, we haven't had a true BK sequel since Banjo Tooie.

Blinkstale

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @mcdufus:

This isn't something new though. It's a sequel to a mediocre franchise with some updated mechanics.

Sollus

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> *crosses fingers*

blackadvent

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> I'm trying not to be totally pessimistic about this news, but...it's hard. REAL hard.

That sounds...so not like Banjo Kazooie...

MR. FAP☆FAP!

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Come on Rare don't disappoint me. I'll assume its going to be great until proven otherwise at release. I still use the Rare theme on my 360 that's from launch day.

jobble

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @Elliuotatar:

It seems to be working fine for Nintendo.

NullsRevenge

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @lifeinthefridge: Wind Waker? Is that supposed to mean its going to suck or its going to be good?

From what I rememeber wind waker was awesome until you beat ganondorf the first time only to find that you had to spend another 5 hours fishing for triforce pieces under the sea... and then the game sucked HARD

fenderfuel08

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> It seems ever since "Rare" became a Microsoft commodity, they've been producing year after year of "meh."

Case and point.

NESv1

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> sometimes its just hard to understand some gamers. when developers make games that just rehashes the same concepts and gameplay, they complain and say that they want something different. but then when developers try something new, they whine again saying things like,"this is crap. this is not gonna be good. I like it the way it was." mind you, they say this even without having played it. well to these people, i say go shove your controllers up your s...

mcdufus

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @Onouris The Fagnifacent: Good review, I'm guessing you have had hands on with the game to come to that conclusion.

Sinnbox

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @karasu is my homeboy:

Agreed, although I never completly finished Kameo simply because I was drawn to other games at the time of playing it, it was great.

Honestly theres a bunch of sore people here who like to exaggerate(AND I MEAN EXAGGERATE) how bad the quality Rares past games have been.

T

lifeinthefridge

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> God, this worries me. I hope what Rare reveal tomorrow will do it. This actually makes me feel like having a casual wander around click clock woods right now!

I miss those days.

I will feel awful if Rare fail to live up to myself and other banjo kazooie fans expectations.

This whole vehicle focus seems a bit fiddly and just a bit pish to be honest.

Just want the wonderful worlds that Rare used to invent with the amazing music of Grant Kirkhope.

Lovely.

Night,

B xx

BlaineT4

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @karasu is my homeboy: I think that so many people look at a game and judge it and never play it.

Sinnbox

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> What?, where is my collect-a-thon?. Banjo was the few games with "120" stars mentality.

They seriously lose points if Nuts and Bolts replaces my jigsaws.

Fyren

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @DARTH_TIGRIS: "...without the cumbersome hurdle of creating full levels (like Little Big Planet)."

So suddenly user-created content is a bad thing, right?

FP_slomo788

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @CCCombobreaker: Exactly. Even if someone wasn't completely drawn in or impressed with Kameo, it is a far, far cry from "terrible." I'd like to know what AZRoboto felt was so terrible about Kameo.

jonathan.

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Listen up everyone maybe your all making rash judgments/assumptions without actually seeing the game in motion.For all you guys know this could be amazing

ALL I HAVE TO SAY TO EVERYONE HERE IS..... 2 WORDS

Wind Waker

lifeinthefridge

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @AZRoboto:

Are you saying Kameo is terrible? Because if so then i have to believe you didn't play it. I finally played it last year and its an amazing game. One of my favorite platformers ever and the only Rare platformer that I really loved. My only complaint was that its kinda short but the online co op is fun.

CCCombobreaker

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Hey at least this is different. We needs new stuff this gen. I admit to being a bit skeptical to Mario galaxy spherical worlds, but having experienced it-now i love it. I wont judge a game before it's out again.

crazyorloco

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Hmm, I'm guessing this game is going to suck. What would've been so hard about keeping to their roots?

Rare is not the same company that they once were and as much as I really want to like them still, they never fail to disappoint. From the Conker remake to Grabbed By the Ghoulies to Perfect Dark Zero and Kameo, every title has been underwhelming. Viva Pinata was at least a solid release, but leagues away from what made them great on the SNES and N64.

I guess I'll have to wait and see how this turns out before I make the final call, but it seems to me that they are about to ruin one of my favorite franchises.

nintend0nick

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @AZRoboto: Did you seriously just call Kameo "terrible"?

Seriously?...

I don't like this whole emphasis on building and piloting vehicles. I wanted platforming first and foremost. I'm willing to keep an open mind, but this is not how I wanted things to go.

@Elliuotatar:
I don't understand why they felt the need to take an established franchise and take it in a completely different direction which may be of no interest to the people who liked the original. They could have done the same thing and thrown any old characters in and it wouldn't have made a bit of difference.

I do. The "collect!" concept Banjo is based around is getting old for the third game in, and plenty of people complained from forum to forum, and even on Kotaku, that they hope the game would be more than passed installments, focusing on collecting.

Well, it is different. But I'm not sure this is what gamers had in mind.

jonathan.

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> As much as I loved the first two, I don't mind the change. I mean, we had two games of essentially the same, a change isn't so bad.

It's in Rare's hands, and IIRC, this is the same team that worked on the previous two.

Besides, drastic change isn't always bad. As was mentioned above, RE4 did a good thing for the series.

Here's hoping!

Coquiton

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Yet another failure from Rare. Good choice on the move, then.

Onouris

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @Elliuotatar: Yeah, how dare they try to do something different! I want an exact copy of the two previous games with slightly different environments!!!

Moonshadow101

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> wow this will be just as bad as when Microsoft decided to put vehicles in a frist person shooter, what retards!!

Sinnbox

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> I never really could get into this series on the N64. It was too much of a collectathon.

vamponymouse

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> I don't understand why they felt the need to take an established franchise and take it in a completely different direction which may be of no interest to the people who liked the original. They could have done the same thing and thrown any old characters in and it wouldn't have made a bit of difference.

Elliuotatar

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> I was thinking about getting a 360 because of this game.. just saved some money :P

CockroachMan

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> I'm glad to see that Rare is at least trying to stir up the formula, but there comes a point where change distracts from what made the series likeable in the first place. I'm not judging Banjo Kazooie 3, but I'm going to have to wait and see if the addition of vehicles is all that it's made out to be. It might be a step up from previous installments (think RE4), or it might be the inferior of the N64 platformers if the additions prove unreliable or too far out there.

Rare is walking a fine line. If they pull it off, good for them. If not...well, their beloved fans won't be too happy.

Ninja-Z

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @CHU BOI: agreed, I'm not a fan of the series so i wont be picking it up anytim*e soon, but I'm sick of people bashing stuff before they try it. new options can only mean that it will be better.

Sinnbox

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> I'm not that familiar with Banjo-Kazooie, but comparing the series with Donkey Kong Country, Rambo, Enguarde, Squawks, etc. were all derivative of vehicles. That's how I see it being integrated. 1600 parts makes it sound like building a vehicle will be a headache, though.

Xiedo

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PaintedMidget

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> It's probably a april fools joke.

Aflack: feels sick to his stomach

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> *eyes fellow Kotakuites*
Don't be so quick to judge people! Let's wait 'til tomorrow, hopefully we'll get some footage and impressions.

Oh how I've missed you Banjo! Not in Diddy Kong Racing tho; you were slow and had awful handles. Now, Tiptup, that guy was a beast!

CHU BOI

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @RonCey: your computer has a face?

Sinnbox

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> This thread makes me want to punch my computer in the face for letting me read such garbage.

RonCey

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @okenny :): "won't strictly follow the traditional gameplay of the previous two colorful platformers, but will have a heavy focus on vehicles and vehicle building."

the "heavy focus" is the problem here for me at least.... and if this is played with the MS wiimote then there are 2 things that i don't like... but i will wait to say something bad about this game ...

symphony_of_the_night

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Banjo looks like Yogi Bear!!!

Sinnbox

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Bummed. I literally waited 8 years for this. This was as big of a letdown as the lackluster NiGHTS sequel. Only 2,000x greater.

MysteryMeat

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Wow.....I was really excited about this until I heard about the Vehicles....Bad move Rare

themadman123

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Wow, I love the concept. Very unique. Just what i would expect from the series.

Green-clad Gamer Dude

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Just as long as the construction/vehicle aspect is a game play enhancer and not an eradicator, I'm down. I'm all for Rare trying new stuff, but when I say that, "complete genre change for series" is obviously not what I mean, so here's to hoping Rare keeps innovative platforming as the main focus. And I'll hang on to that hope until such a time as more info and/or game play footage is released that dashes that hope against the jagged rocks that is (except for VP) Rare's portfolio since they stopped making games for Nintendo.

Andomor

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> I'm not sure if you guys read the original post but it mentions that all the platforming is still in their... this is another layer put in the game aside from the great platforming you love. If I'm understanding people correctly, you are bitching about getting more... *face-palm*

okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Those graphics look incredible nonetheless. I'll buy this just to show Rare they still mean something to me. Even if they did ditch Nintendo. >:(

Fadakar

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Looks cool. I cant wait to play it. Ill probably rent it first. I dont know though.

CCCombobreaker

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @Aethyr: Remnants of Donkey Kong 64?

spiderweb1986

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> This was a guaranteed buy for me... Up until today. I wanted Banjo Kazooie as a platformer... This vehicle stuff is indeed jumping the shark. Congrats Rare, your legacy of failure keeps on surging forward into the 21st century.

Demonbird

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> I'm going to wait until I can either try the game or see some reviews, but I've got doubts. If this had been a new Banjo game in the mold of the first two, it probably would've been enough to get me to finally buy a 360.

But this? I'm not so sold on it. I'm not going to write it off, but Rare's going to have some convincing to do.

@Yeux de nouilles: Given the game's console roots, I wouldn't count on that. Isn't Viva Pinata the ONLY one of Rare's games that got a PC release?

spiderweb1986

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @StagnatedLives: It's because Gears of War really wasn't that revoltuionary...just a pretty game with cover-based gameplay.

People(myself included) are complaining about this new Banjo because the Banjo games were the best platformers of their time. The Banjo games did things better that most of the platformers of the PS2 generation, so when we see this news we are just asking "WHY?" because the 360 has a complete lack of good platformers.

Also, when MS bought Rare Banjo fans dreamed of how awesome the next Banjo platformer could be with a huge budget and cutting edge technology. With this news those dreams are kinda crushed.

fenderfuel08

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @Aethyr: Wait. I just read the part about the coconuts. What the fuck, Rare.

Aethyr

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> I love the look of the game, but I really have no idea how it's going to work out. If it's great, I just hope it'll get a PC release at some point.

My name changed for an unknown reason

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> ... damnit.

WHERE IS BANJO THREEIE?

God, I bought my 360 on the basis that I'd have Banjo Threeie sometime in the next year or two... so much for that.

Ignatius

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> I really wasn't impressed when I read about this earlier. If finding parts and building vehicles played a small role then fine, but it seems like it's taking center stage in the game. I mean the name of the game is nuts and bolts, and most of what you're looking for are parts, and new additions. Maybe this sounds awesome to you, but it's not my cup of tea.

LittleBigPlaneteer

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @Teh Emo Penguin: I call a jump from platforming to non-platforming Kingdom Hearts II Syndrome.

Americo

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Thank god, not another treasure hunt. For a while it seemed like Rare was only making those kinds of games.

Seriously though? Vehicles?

Aethyr

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> I dont understand the quick disapproval. If games stayed the same, everyones quick to jump down the developers throat ('gears of war 1.5') if they change it, everyone is up in arms about the change. make up your mind!

Now, more on topic, I think this sounds really interesting. As long it is implemented in a Spore like manner, with a fairly low amount of limitation, it could be a lot of fun. I don't understand why they felt the need to use the Banjo Kazooie brand rather than starting a new IP, but it is what it is. I'm cautiously optimistic about this title.

StagnatedLives

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Hmmmm ...... this could be interesting. Sounds unique, for sure (can't think of another game that had this feature). Its almost like it has a creation element (like Little Big Planet) without the cumbersome hurdle of creating full levels (like Little Big Planet).

Looking forward to more tomorrow. Hopefully they'll have extensive gameplay footage and not just a weird, quick-cutting trailer.

And its good to see people actually excited about this. There's a vocal minority on the 'net that won't be satisfied with ANYTHING Rare does or doesn't do now that they aren't with Nintendo, but there voices are being drowned out by geniune excitement. Cool.

DARTH_TIGRIS

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> I'm actually really interested in this new mechanic. I know it's not what everyone was expecting, but come on guys, at least wait until you get some hands-on experience before you start bashing on the idea.

Allosteric

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @ostartero: Unfortunately you people seem to only be reading the details on kotaku about the new stuff which will be going along with the normal platforming, theres also a link with addition information. Banjo 3 is very much still a platformer. Its kind of funny everyone is condemning it before actually seeing it in motion.

Walker

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @wealthyman2:

A new Conker would be welcomed @ my house.

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I'm sure Rare will do a great job.
(Viva Pinata is one of my faves)

TxKARATEDUDE

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Ugh, why are all my favorite childhood game series being systematically destroyed?!

First Sonic turns into a warewolf and now vehicle based Banjo-Kazooie?

I'm fine with change, but whats with the emphasis? It should be on platforming.

TheDaftPunk

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Oh come on guys, Sonic was twice as fun when they added vehicles!............right?

I'm with everyone else till I see some gameplay proving otherwise, I was expecting the first real next gen platformer that should have already come out a long time ago.

AxlTheHunter

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> The moment that I saw that it wasn't Banjo Threeie I was disappointed and reading the rest of that didn't help. I suppose I'll just go back to the old games and play them to death.

Jefflar

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @Nirolak: Who really complained about BK?

Hopanoe

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> uh this is still a platform game, what are you guys talking about?? They just added a new gameplay style. If they copied what they did in the past people woulda said "Rare is stuck in the past"

YourAnthony

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Rare just broke my heart. Really. Just ripped it out and smashed it on the ground.

I'm going to need to break out the Ben and Jerry's.

Hopanoe

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @maskedaprentice: Yeah a platformer is what we all wanted/want but 95% of the screenshots have a vehicle in them... I was hoping I would get to run around the world on foot with a bird on my back and explore every nook and cranny there is to be explored..

Maybe just MAYBE I'll still be able to do that and this won't turn out to be

(BANJO KAZOOIE RACING with a little bit of platforming thrown in)

Murderdolls

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Sheesh, make the same game, everyone complains, try to innovate, everyone still complains. I'm glad they're at least trying new things and personally I think it sounds really cool.

Nirolak

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Looks like Rare just made Banjo-Kazooie jump the shark. This is terrible. The Banjo model looks bad enough as it is, but putting more emphasis on vehicles than platforming destroys the purpose. Rare has really gone downhill since the last days of N64. . .

Nintendotis

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> @wealthyman2: the creator of conker said there won't be a new one and if there ever was conker would be killed off in the opening movie

Read this while ago on a few different sites...

Murderdolls

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> oh come on, straight up platformer come on guys. That's why we cheered so much when we heard about this game

maskedaprentice

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> I am dissapointed...this isn't what I loved about the past Banjo games.

fenderfuel08

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> I don't think its moving away from its platform roots- I think this is just an added gameplay mechanic

Snuffbox

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> The whole vehicle thing sounds like a pretty weak idea but I'll wait till tomorrow to pass my final judgment. Don't get me wrong vehicles are great! I just don't want my platformer to revolve around them.

This is my most anticipated game since Perfect Dark Zero in 2005 and I do NOT want to be disappointed in it.

Murderdolls

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> That is not what I wanted to hear at all.

You have to be kidding me. I want my damn platformer! What other platformer was on 360! Kameo? Sorry Rare, that was terrible, Banjo is supposed to be that!

*upset before I actually see the gameplay*

AZRoboto

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> I'm so glad they made a great platforming series into a non-platforming series. That was a close one!

ostartero

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> meh, never played banjo kazooie, but this sounds kinda fun. I want a new conker though!

wealthyman2

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> Sounds pretty neat, especially with the imaginative folks at Rare designing all these 1600 parts. I'm kind of glad they didn't just kind of make another platformer. Looking forward to tinkering with it!

the-hypnotoad

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> I don't know. I think I might fall squarely in the coconut schlepping demographic.

IggyJReilly

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> I'll wait to hear more. But That's not what I wanted to hear.

Ollivander

]]> <![CDATA[Banjo Kazooie 3 Named, Detailed]]> I'm not likin' the vehicles at all.
I'd prefer it to be strictly platforming.

Inv4d3rG1R

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