also stop taking $hit out of a game just because they claim you're trying to make it "real" and THEN (cause you know this is going to happen) bring it back in the next game (or dlc hopefully)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

freespeech

Rbastid

JakeDunn

1. 1st person in-car view FTW. Lose this and a copy of GTA4 goes on ebay. Needs a camera "turn-in" option like EVERY RACING GAME EVER MADE includes, so that the camera starts panning automatically when you turn the steering wheel (stick), so you can see where the hell you're going without having to turn the tank turret that is Niko's viewpoint.

2. Camera control options for both on foot and in car and helicopter. Let the player choose separate options for standard/invert both horiz/vert for 3rd person, 1st person, vehicle and helicopter. I haven't had any issues with the default orientation, but others have commented about how the game inverts the camera in 3rd person but continues to do so when aiming, which makes no sense.

3. Add camera control options for auto-lock on/off (to prevent it from "floating" back to center while driving or walking" and add an option for fixed mode, where it follows Niko or your vehicle like a camera mounted on a tripod duct taped to his head/roof in a permanent vertical orientation. No swaying, no lazy turning, just show me where I'm going, when I'm going there, all the time. Always. If I turn Niko around because someone is shooting at my ass, I want to be able to see them without having to smack the R3 button a bajillion times.

4. Custom music. Niko's got $500k in the bank. He can afford an ipod. (someone else commented earlier about being able to disable the radio, press and hold the left d-pad button to turn it off) Hell, why stop with an ipod, let's add streaming internet radio. You could limit it to the fancy luxury cars with navigation systems. We'll just pretend they come with XM/Sirius radio.

5. Better asset control. You've got multiple safehouses... that's great and all, but you can't do much with them. You should be able to collect a far great number of custom clothing components, you should be able to listen to the radio stations from within your home, be able to designate a safehouse as an activity (party at Niko's, aww yeah!), and it should be a base of operations rather than That Place You Have To Go To Save The Damn Game™. How about being able to store a cache of weapons and ammo, bulletproof vests and medpacks/food at home? There could also be your own private garage, where you have...

6. The ability to collect and customize vehicles that are temporarily (ill gotten goods) or permanently (purchased from a dealership or washed VIN autos via Brucie (buy direct, or bring to Brucie to have it "cleaned" for a fee). This way if you take it for a mission or a Death Race 2000, you can have a replacement sent to your garage for a fee. Have a purchased vehicle be returned immediately, have a sourced vehicle take longer for Brucie to acquire. 24 hours, for instance. This way if you've got a race coming up and don't feel like tracking down a fast car, you can pony up and buy one like a good consumer does.

7. The last thing I'll add is that the weapon shops should be more... useful. As others have pointed out, you can't actually buy most of the weapons unless you've progressed so far within the game. And even if you've got around and proactively collected the weapons through other, less non-violent methods, you can't even buy additional ammo for them! So yeah, it does more or less turn into a place you go to simply to buy some ammo, rather than it allowing you to play with different armaments if you're flush with cash.

I'm going to leave the relationship part alone, but I will say that it does get pretty annoying when they call mid-6 star escape and then when you show up 3 minutes late they figure you blew them off. Nevermind the fact that from many parts of the map it's physically impossible to drive yourself to them in time. You essentially have to use a cab to keep up your connections. And if you've got a sweet ride and you get a call to go play darts with someone on the other side of the city... well, you'll wish you had that permanent garage. :P

I think the fact there are so many options that could conceivably be added to GTA4 without a ton of modification speaks volumes about the freedom that exists within the game, but no game is perfect. The biggest problem with GTA4 is that in giving the player so many options, it also plants a desire to see more and more of them added to the mix.

Slash3

They'd better keep GPS, and please PLEASE kill the relationship system, or at least make it totally extra, without penalties.

PlaidNinja

hollowfreak

planetidiot

1. Bigger map on the HUD.

>> seriously. with all the LCD's out in the world today, why did they not improve the size of the map? i understand that not everyone has a big-ass tv. but, some kinda option to make it bigger would be nice.

2. Walking... that damn leaning!

>> what is the deal with the guy leaning all the time. i could see the need for it on the sprint, but c'mon! do i have to LEAN when i turn around to buy a damn hot dog? also, what is with the guy automatically placing mustard on my hot dog? i am dead serious... i want an answer on this one!

3. Camera...

>> no need to clarify this one. more camera options would be nice. give me the ones present now and add in "thumb-stick only" and "in-car". done.

4. Speedometer/HUD info

>> ... it doesn't have to be special. just throw a 3-digit line up in front of me somewhere.

>> ... compass. yeah i know you can see the tiny little "N" on the tiny little map-hud. but so what? gimme a damn FULL FUNCTION GPS. and by "full function" i am only asking for simple readouts. no "tom tom" interface or anything stupid like that. just some basic "extras" like speed, compass, and maybe even a rearview?

5. Waypoints/Mapping

>> i am putting this in here because it was something they added in that was greatly needed from the other games. they did a great job on this and i would like to say "thank you". for the future, having the ability to place a Map Pin and also Waypoints.

>> Map Pin would work just like it did in San Andreas. I always like to know where my home base is and not have to reset it all the time. Maybe have groups so you can toggle of your favorites when a mission is on

>> Waypoints... multiple would be nice.

6. Ragdolling 'Round

>> i would like to see the threshold for the ragdolling changed so when a person runs over my foot i don't ragdoll all over the place. i mean... it's only my FOOT ! this really sucks when some idiot wants to chase after you in heavy traffic and you end up dying because someone clipped your foot and you fall down. it's stupid. what is Niko? some level 0 thief with 1 hit point?

7. Driving... let me preface this with my GTA4 Experience. i'll start with... "i LOVE San Andreas"!

>> i first played the game when my buddy brought his copy over. wasn't happy about the leaning or the state of the driving. found it was a lot harder to do than in SA. however, after picking up my own copy yesterday and playing all day i found that the driving is a lot better than. yes, it is harder. yes, it takes longer to get used to. no, it is not perfect. but i feel it is a lot more fun.

don't get me wrong, i loved driving around in SA and i was pretty darn good at it, too. but i realize that although it was harder to get used to, the driving pretty much rocks.

i feel the REAL issue with the driving is the camera and not the controls or "physics"...

more to come!

gtntc

toadwarrior

JamieA

Acute Gamer

Gamewatcher at Busy Gamer News

@darthmatt: You press Y to climb any ladder in the game. You... are forced to do this in one of the early missions so I can't begin to fathom how you missed this.

dowingba

dowingba

1) Split screen multiplayer options (I know, it's taxing on the system, but would be sooo rad).

2) Custom soundtrack radio station

3) Quick-turn option, ala RE4

4) Jogging mapped to the analog stick...there's no reason I should have to hold 'A' to jog.

DCSimian

Bacardi151

But more than anything (as far as I am,) it needs a camera that works. When driving, in first person you wear a neck brace since it takes so long to turn and look at something it's like turning a tank turret. ("Stop car. Looooooooooook... still looking.... turrrrrrrn.... ok, nothing there. Click back to normal, start driving.") In third person, if you turn, you turn blind and smash into something and then the camera catches up. I'm amazed that isn't fixed. And on foot if you turn around you're facing the camera again. Niko should be able to see more than ten feet, but I click R3 more than any other button in that game. Especially when you can do things like casually walk out a solid glass window and fall out of a building.

fuchikoma

Or have the option to turn it on . Used to be great in GTA 1. If I could just light up a bunch of hairi khrisnas with a flame thrower, the audience cheers, and "GORGANGA".

I never play the missions for anything other than unlocking more of the map. I just like to hit the cheat codes and go ape shit.

NNTPgrip

SwampApe

tomsamson

darthmatt

GTAIV with SR's targeting system, weapon select method, and car customization would have been pretty goddamn awesome. As it is, it's a great game that didn't really do much to raise the bar for itself.

KaneRobot

The co-op could be half assed in the sense that one host player trips all cutscenes, picks up mission items, etc. while the other player(s) ran around driving and shooting to assist the host.

This way you could replay some of the more memorable shootouts and chase scenes with friends.

sand0789

jigglypoofs

stevoe

funkonaut

MOST IMPORTANTLY:

Replays. WTF? think about it, i have about .0003 seconds to properly appreciate how badass I am when I land a double backflip at like 90 on a Motorcycle.

I could worship myself for weeks were replays a factor.

UrbanKnight

iNime

Barf#1

I'd get rid of the safehouse system, although it's less pressing now that you don't lose your weapons when you die and can restart missions easily. Still, it's an unnecessary hassle driving to a safehouse after every mission.

I'd like a much better matchmaking system. I've yet to have a multiplayer game with more than 6 people.

I'd like one of your unlockable perks be a car delivery system. You want an Infernus? Just ring up Brucie (or whoever), pay a fee, and it's yours. You could spice it up by insisting that you return it to a lockup within a certain amount of time or pay a hefty fine.

cdammers

kryo

Not every facet of the game would have to have to be available for co-op play.

I don't think you'd have to rebuild the game from the ground up, Rockstar'd just have to stop being so prissy about how players go about completing missions. Try living up to the idea of an open world rather than shuttling gamers through arbitrary scripted events.

wanion

Proto_Man

topscore1632

Jotsy

also, i'd like to see the gang territories/alliegences back. it was pretty cool going into a fight with 10 guys backing you up.

I think the driving is perfect though. in this day an age where pretty much every racing game has some form of drifting mechanism, how can you still not know how to pull a hand brake turn? heck, you can even pull a powerslide (in some cars) by flicking it out and then flicking it back into the turn... without ever touching the brakes at all

Jotsy

Ryumeka

And co-op sounds fun but it wouldn't really work in something as open as this. How'd dating work? Gang bang? It'd pretty much have to be created from ground up to facilitate co-op.

Vodun

billnabors65

My character survived (that incident, at least).

@PapaBear434: Thanks for taking time to point out that high-speed cornering is not impossible, just not as easy as the last three incarnations.

I have never used a cover system in another game, so I find the one in GTAIV pretty useful.

My number one wish for GTA right now? Save my goddamn online ranking! I'm back to 1 or 0 when I should be 2 or 3...

73mike

You'd think they would've fixed that :s. Ah well.

argh

kylo4

narynan

Those things before thinking of other features. Although addressing issues like those really isn't R*'s prerogative.

EmTeeZ

That Boy Baked

string_theory

EndersGame

Snake9677

PackieMcGreedy

butterladle

obonicus

Doesn't that mean the lighting is good, (read, realistic)? Turn the brightness/contrast up. Are you an agoraphobic at nighttime in real life? lol

KevanB

KevanB

Pound my tom-tom

MP3 Radio anyone?!?!

kingme

How can you enter cheat codes without
having XBOX Live.
(XBOX360/GTAIV)

Jestin64

JorgieX

Anyone else agree?

evnglion

That's just how I felt about mass effect. Great storyline, but boring side missions and a few other little annoyances (inventory system).

TwoSetBonus: Why have it?

I was buying AK ammo, sniper rifle ammo and armor. Until I found the armor that spawns near the 2nd safehouse.

Now it's just AK and Snipe ammo. But that's about it.

/In SR, there were some really expensive sports cars that you could essentially only buy from the dealership (the spawn rate was so low that you could literally walk/drive around for HOURS without seeing one appear). And they were expensive. (but very useful in any mission where you needed to run from, or chase after anything).

Stop being pussies and get rid of the pasties.

Blame the ESRB and the "but the children" ninnies for that.

Still, some games could do with a parental control lever as well. Set it to the lowest setting and it doesn't play some songs, bleeps dialogue, blurs out the bodies and boobies (like on the TV show cops).

That way, you could have younger folks playing it without the extreme content.

Set it to high, and all bets are off.

Leviticus: It is common knowledge that on some 360s Bioshock had a lot of freezing and slowdown,

I didn't know that since mine worked fine :D

However, bioshock was a little short and too linear to me and didn't quite live up to the system shock 2 pedigree.

I'll see how it does on a 2nd playthrough in hardcore with vita chambers disabled (which I only used once or twice).

lordargent

kidjesus

BaZ2

DrunkRaba

xsni

DarkDragon9906

Stop.

It is common knowledge that on some 360s Bioshock had a lot of freezing and slowdown, but for most of us the game ran perfectly fine. Try not to further spread that tired misconception.

Leviticus

Chris167

lammy742

100% agree -- I keep trying to look around while I'm driving, but since it keeps trying to swing the view back, it only makes me wreck. Why couldn't this be an option??

@lordargent: I believe there's an option called "hand brake cinematic camera" or something. Turning this off should make the camera stay locked even during a handbrake 180.

catapult37

Considering the game is already pushing the limit regarding open world sandbox gameplay, and considering how outrageous some of the requests are, the article seems (and I normally NEVER use this word) retarded.

It would have been a more interesting list if it was being attributed to, say, Mario Galaxy.

UltimatePancakeSensation

1. Camera - It's awful. Locked on while walking, loose while driving. I HATE clicking R3 or nudging it to look around corners. It's not innovative or cool, it's rubbish. For all the camera complaints games like Tenchu and MGS get, and this one gets a rubbed knob for a terribly used view, I don't get it.

2. Controls - It feels like GTA, but that doesn't make it a good thing. Niko controls like all the other 3D GTA protagonists: Gumby with a stick up his ass. It feels unwieldy while hardware developers are working to increase degrees of analog sensitivity and GTA still has you holding or pressing a button to sprint. I thought we were past those days. The cover system is decent sometimes. Other times, you think you're hiding, you tap R1 and you're hugging a wall in plain view to make out with the shotgun you thought was around the corner. I just hit L3 to crouch and save myself some trouble. Driving has improved, but the camera choices just makes me take the taxi 90% of the time. I'm also a fan of the D-pad so I hate not having that option. Whoever says "this game isn't about driving" should wonder why the series is called Grand Theft Auto and not "somewhat generic tale of gangster stereotype struggle". Redundant, I know.

3. Money - Why have it? I haven't used money for anything. I can't buy guns until I've come across them in a mission, and by that point, everyone's wielding them, so the weapon shops are relegated to ammo shops, if you ever need them. Niko continually says "I need money, so the job is good." Why does he need money? I haven't had the option to buy anything but a small, boring selection of clothing and ammo, and pay my way out of the infrequent hospital bills. Pedestrians don't give out much money; I think it's either to discourage mindless slaughter or because you don't even need it. Low on health? Buy a burger or a hotdog for A DOLLAR. Cab rides are chump change, too.

4. Adult content - Stop being pussies and get rid of the pasties. I can nail someone point blank with a handgun and watch their body lifelessly slump to the ground, painting the adjacent wall with a spray of red, a hapless bump into a group of pedestrians elicits countless and unnecessary uses of "fuck", but a poorly pixelated nip is a no-no. It's the inconsistency that bothers me.

5. Friends - Everyone's connected to everyone, but you can only hang out with one of them at a time. It feels like I have to date everyone instead of hang out with them.

I think GTAIV is a great GTA. I play it often, I'm fond of the characterization and it has a lot of the qualities of all the previous GTAs (including the 2D ones) while establishing itself on its own feet. I just feel at times, the ambition of this game falls short.

Shalashaska

KirbyMorph

I actually drive better when i'm using the in-car view. I love it.

dstg_ll

MisterFeeny

It seems even the most respected reviewers do this with evey game that is hyped to the max. Bioshock got tons of hype and excellent scores but the reviewers didn't seem to mind the fact that the game chugs down to 5 frames per second every half minute or so as if the 360 could barley run it.

Or halo 3, which had outstanding multiplayer but only had 4 good single player campaign levels and 5 crappy, not so fun ones.

Really, its all about hype. In my eyes I'd give GTA IV an 8, but no higher than that.

fenderfuel08

Evil Tortie's Mom

Cyborgmatt

Which ones? Well, the relationships system is more annoying than it is fun. I hate constantly getting phone calls during the middle of missions where "Person X wants to play darts with you" and then when you say you're busy with something else it suddenly hurts your relationship with that person and they start to dislike you.

The dating system too is fun at first but then gets annoying when your girlfriend starts to constantly complain about your clothing choices or things as dumb as how she thinks your shoes look weird. She's like a real-life girlfriend, but thats not fun in a videogame!

fenderfuel08

2. Make cars use gas stations.

3. Make Niko buy a drink with his burger (this bugs me right now).

artistpavel

You can rob people in GTA4. Point a gun at the clerk, scare them off or kill them and open the till with RB.

five finger discount!

These people need to play the game more before they come up with ways to 'fix' it. I'm all for an in car view BTW, as long as it was optional. What is every wrong with options?

EdwinJ85

I thought the best part of the game is the B Button Cinematic view...its great in that mission you have a bomb in the truck that you have to blow up...just hitting B while walking away was sexual

stryder19

GTA IV is the most mind-boggling case of reviewers not doing their fucking job that I have encountered so far (and it will probably stay so for a long time).

If this is the ultimate AAA title, the #1 game on Metacritic and blablabla, I think I'll stick with average-to-good games and steer clear of the "ZOMG-awesome-gaming-reinvented!!!" ones...

Antiterra

Heyyou27

BMErdin

Godzilla-Sushi

Nexus6

VixDiesel

Saints row did it.

$500 to repair your car, even if all that was left of it was a flaming wreck.

Once you customised a car and had it saved in your garage, you could always get it back. So you didn't have to worry about parking it anywhere because a mission required a specific type of car or anything like that.

And then there were the unique vehicles that you got for doing certain missions.

Like the blinged out armored truck with spinning dollar sign rims. Or the pimp mobile with the naked chick hood ornament.

/looking forward to saints row 2 :P

lordargent

adaorardor

solidsnak

Car-wise, my friend suggested that if you purchase or are given a vehicle in-game, you should have the option to replace it automatically if it gets destroyed. Call it auto insurance, maybe incur a small charge... With car customization, it would really add a new level of personal investment in the game-world.

The old Campion

Fatmumuhomer

*SAVED REPLAYS*

It annoys me that something so easy to add isn't in every game of this magnitude. Especially when the youtube videos alone would be free advertising.

SeedyROM

@Green-clad Gamer Dude: "I demand that the next game in the series take place in Gotham City. You're play a new thug in town, and your actions in the game affect your ranking."

And once in a while Batman shows up, beats the crap out of you, gets you arrested and scares off all your henchmen.

As for me I'd love mid mission saves and being able to stash stuff in my pads.

But mostly I want the next GTA to take place in a more exotic local. Take us to a Rockstar version of Hong Kong, Tokyo, Madrid, Panama City, New Amsterdam or something.

Zazu_Yen

Like I said, I can do it without effort anymore. It just takes a little practice to get it right.

PapaBear434

It's 2008, for god's sake!

Insomnia Bob

I'd also like to see the ability to perform "bank jobs" whenever the hell I felt like it. I've played the game quite a bit now, and I finally got to a mission that DOES play out a lot like the movie Heat.

Seriously, you should be able to mutliplayer that.

The ability to plan out your missions would be nice, as well. Something along the lines of being able to set up your point of entry, your getaway plan, targets, etc, and have your map point you to those elements. As it stands, running missions can alternates between being stale and exciting on a fairly regular basis.

GTA4 is a good game. I certainly enjoy playing it. The amount of detail and effort they did put into the game should be noted. But at the same time, it doesn't exactly push the envelop. In fact, it even goes backwards a little bit in the realm of character customization (compared to San Andreas).

Lastly, it'd be nice if I had something to spend all that cash on besides medical bills and the occasional ammo refill and flak jacket. Slowly moving your way up in a criminal organization doesn't mean a whole hell of a lot when you can't do anything with your $40K.

Fun game, but I hope they start messing with the formula in the next installment, or this game runs the risk of turning into a more sensational version of the Madden franchise.

Insomnia Bob

stryker1800

Ohh yeah, you just reminded me.

Saints row gave you a MP3 player and the ability to use custom playlists.

So, you could listen to music even when you were outside of the car.

lordargent

Saints row, the GTA "clone" had car customization.

And character customization that beat practically any other game out there (short of games that allow you to scan your face in).

I was expecting GTA4 to make note of some of the improvements that saints row made over san andreas, but sadly, a lot of that didn't make it in.

Don't get me wrong, GTA4 is a great game, but gameplay wise it feels like they didn't innovate all that much and stuck with the tried and true.

/Aiming was better in saints row. (IIRC, you didn't have to hold the left trigger to aim, you just always had a crosshair on the screen that you moved with the left joystick).

/Weapon selection was better in saints row (they went with a ratchet and clank style circular weapon menu. Each weapon type had a different direction on the menu).

/Car customization was better (hundreds of different paint color/finish combos, nitro, rims, and the ability to save them in a garage and repair them for a small fee if they got smashed)

/Character customization was better

/The mayhem was better. (getting a bunch of cars piled up then tossing in pipe bombs to start a chain reaction, sweet)

/The side missions were better. (Pimp missions, hooker limo driver, contract killer, etc)

OTOH

/the storyline in GTA4 is better.

/the handling of the vehicles in SR was worse (by worse, I mean less realistic)

/the AI in saints row was worse

/the bugs in saints row were worse

AND

/The multiplayer for both games needs a little bit of tweaking. But the GTA multiplayer is in a much larger arena so I'll give it the nod (though I love me some protect the pimp, or snatchin gold chains)

lordargent

dechire

Chuco

I understand that they wanted realism with the Euphoria engine, but at least give us some car surfing. Or maybe the ability to hold onto a moving car.

I almost managed to stay on once. Niko went 'limp' on a taxi cab and happened to lay down on top for about a block before he slid off!

Tyber_Zann

GhostWhoWalks

You're supposed to pay for health care, it's the penalty for dying. If they draw it from your pocket or your bank account, what difference does it make? You're still the $2000-$15000 down.

Actually, you're technically using a bank -you're not hauling a million dollars in bills. I guess it's more of a debit thing. You can check on ATMs and see all your cash.

As for what I'd like to see in GTA? A replay/photo option. Something at least as powerful as Halo 3's, preferrably more so. Just constantly record, and discard anything older than the last 10-15 minutes. I've seen way too many things that are way too cool to be seen by only my eyes.

Grive

Sounds like fun though.

*Sigh*

thebigsmoke

1. Car Mods. I want custom paint, and custom trim

2. Custom Stereo with my MP3s

3. Ability to cut the stereo off

4. Ability to keep a car after a mission. Like, it should as you "do you want to drive this car home?" instead of leaving you at the end of every mission with no car. What's the point of getting the infernus if you're going to lose it the moment you get it out of the garage?

5. Bring back skill levels for driving, shooting, girlfriends, and hell, add bowling, darts, and pool.

6. Give us planes, parashoots, and jetpacks. Give us a garage to put them.

7. Give us houses back. Let us furnish those houses with stuff.

8. Let us build a gang. or some sort of criminal organization. Then let us get to the top.

9. More clothes, and more sunglasses.

10. Give us more things to do besides missions. I can't take the girlfriends anywhere they haven't been 500 times already.

Scuba Steve

Naughty_Videos

Being serious it works but I find terrible issues with large parties ie 4/5 or more and being dumped back to single player when you have a problem sucks.

senote

Laser_iCE

The cover system does take a little getting used to. I don't like how you can't turn around and shoot things behind you. He just kind of... Stares at them. Annoying.

But you don't HAVE to use it. And it's nice to have the option. When you're planning on using it, and not using it as an "Oh shit, I'm being shot!" button, it's quite handy.

PapaBear434

Proto_Man

Kohath

screw that! I almost always use the 'on top of car hood' view and would kill for an in car view. I drive SO much better like that, it's not even cool. Hell, it's hard for me to play any racing game without the in car view now, PGR3 ruined it for me! SO awesome.

sc00t420

bertfallen

Press the brake button lighter. It will brake without locking you up.

@mcscan:

Freaking agree. Free falling and precision dropping onto a casino via parachute was one of my favorite things to do.

PapaBear434

Refused

FP_slomo788

Yeah, I was wondering why they changed that. I loved hoping on the back of a bobtailed semi in San Andreas, popping a round into the back of the cab, and holding on for dear life. I would also use it to just kill police who inevitably follow me. Just let the trucker do the driving while I take potshots through the windshield or at the tires.

Imagine my surprise when I tried to get on the back of a delivery truck and seemed to simply faint and tumble onto the pavement headfirst. It's not like Niko even tried hard to stay on. He just... Goes limp.

PapaBear434

The interior thing sounds cool, maybe they could slowly add it with that famous DLC for both consoles (who knows what it will be). I wouldn't mind being able to save some video of my carnage, you know, have a setting in the menu that you toggle on, when you;re feeling like going crazy. That would be cool.

Saracenn

parachutes.

mcscan

"Truth is, this almost didn't make our list, because what we'd really like to see is a GTA MMO, and destructible environments would be too chaotic and impracticable in a persistent online setting"

Specifically this bit:
"GTA MMO"

That is a horrible idea, and it completely breaks the paradigm of GTA. I can see on or offline co-op, and I actually like the idea of being able to connect to a friend's game and play in their "world" for a bit. That would be cool. WoW with car stealing, however, would completely destroy the appeal of the game.

The fun of GTA comes from the player's freedom. You get to bend or break rules that most people wouldn't even imagine breaking in real life, and it's elevated by the fact that the player can do this without any severe consequences. It lets you pretend to be above the rules for a while, and if you slap an MMO on top of that, you ruin the whole thing.

That doesn't invalidate their list entirely, but it certainly makes me question their understanding of good game design. Having all buildings being interactive, would definitely make the game more fun, and having real driving physics would go a long way too. If they did those two things, they could easily sell just as many copies of GTA5 as they are selling of 4.

nephroth

2SBs

hazlo1

mnky

SAKY

Voteforme2020

FP_slomo788

Crucio

SAKY

GOD WHEN ARE THESE FINALS GOING TO END???

FP_slomo788

Actually, I found that if you walk up to the register in one of the clothing stores, it says "Push L1 (or the 360 equivalent I imagine) to open the register."

You do it, the alarm goes off and the worker runs for the hills, but you get the money in the register. But by the time you get to the stores that actually have any cash, you'll likely have enough money that it's not worth it.

PapaBear434

Still, it could be soo much better and really cool

Ockeroid

And I like the driving in the game. It feels more realistic with under steer/over steer. GTA wouldn't be fun if driving wasn't a little challenging. Going from point A to point B isn't fun if its easy.

Cenobia

That is all.

Tyber_Zann

PC versions had the best "on foot" controls and running backward while shooting came in handy quite often but trying to steer with a keyboard or mouse is painful when compaired to a controller. A friend of mine would switch between the kb/m and PS2 like controller when playing on his PC.

SAKY

i think the driving is absolutely horrible. especially when trying to turn at corner at high speed.

Oh, you mean like real life?

I have learned how to take corners at very high speed, and it's quite easy once you know how. It helps that I learned how to do it for real in the police department.

1) Hand brake for a second while turning the direction you want to go.

2) During the slide, hit the gas and turn the wheel the opposite direction, to straighten yourself out.

3) Just touch the normal brake/reverse button to take the fishtail out of the rear end of the vehicle, and release it. You may or may not want to let up on the gas, depending on how much your rear end turned out from under you. You'll get a feel for it the more you do it, and like me get to the point that you don't even have to let off the gas most of the time.

4) Gun it. Depending on the car's power and ability to slide the rear tires out from under you, you will have to do some minor correction to keep it straight. Again, you'll get a feel for it.

The driving in this game is awesome and quite realistic. If you can't do it, it isn't the game's mechanics, it's that you are failing to adapt from the old ones.

PapaBear434

tomsamson

NoahIdea

Maldron

FP_slomo788

2SBs

[sarcasm]Yes, because taking a 45 degree corner at 50 miles an hour is possible.[/sarcasm]

dead_red_eyes

Quickly click the stick for the reverse view and release it, and the camera will be back at the default view allowing you to see.

tcrat

Alexander-The-Great

Lockenator