DDRMidian

Getting companies/people like GT to promote your products or take a "favorable view" has been happening since probably Cavemen walked the earth. It's taught in Business Marketing 101

Problem is, what websites/companies are Sony paying to do the same? We don't know. Maybe never will.

It's actually quite surprising to see most of you all up in arms about this. Most of you all (hopefully) know that all companies do this. Why fly off the handle when someone gets caught?

Ignorance is bliss couldn't ring truer.

~R

relic2279

I'm just saying..

oh and Xbox rules...PS3 drools..

teknohed

I wonder if Microsoft paid something to receive the good treatment...

Mokona

Seiven

archibaldleech

themorningstar420

The L1 could be LB, and L2 could be LT, its just how GRID did it for some reason.

I the problem with GT is that most of the users are complete PS3 fanboys. You see them attack everything. There hasn't been a critic that hasn't been called a fanboy. All the time, you see Gamespot community being called Xbots.

The problem is, I think you have to be a fanboy to see the mistakes. GT might like Xbox more, it doesn't mean there are bias. It's like how RE5 is being called racist by some people. You have to be looking for racism to call RE5 racist.

I like to note that I only have a Wii, so you can't say I am a Microsoft fanboy (not because I am poor, just because the Wii is the only system I want)

KayleL

That being said, GT lost me as a reader with this one.

Murmaider

frozenfox13

OldManGaming

UFO

mindf1ow

darkstar5555

just like everyone said they lost credibility due on their pushing one system in front of the other.

lonesn1per

Lockenator

FP Bleentastic has cake

Exia

With AC they compressed the PS3 video with a worse codec and it ran at less framerates for instance.

They are absolute 360 fanboys.

I hope MS is paying them a lot of money because totally ruining your reputation for nothing would be not a very good deal.

Iberianpower

FFor the record, I own both XBox360 and PPS3. I enjoy both but admit the PS3 is my preferred system. Have in the past compared versionsof multi-plat games (through rentals) and to be honest there seems in most cases to be little difference. I played through the Orange Box on PS3 before I saw GT's comparison on it and found the game played fine and was somewhat mystefied by theirs and other sites trashing of this version. I thought it was fine. There was clearly in GT's comparison of the Orange Box video, a lot of manual saving going on in the PS3 version which does affect performance in the game on PS3. I mention this as it did seem to me unfair at the time and could therefor e be cited as prior misdemeanours. Others have mentioned the Assassins Creed video. Again I have played on both consoles. I couldn;t see a difference in quality personally.

As for the RGB option on PS3, there are lots of arguments for and against this to be found elsewhere but from what I researched it seems that the effect of RGB is dependant on the television. From memory, older TV's may need full RGB as they work more like an LCD monitor but the more modern look better without. Seems odd but there you go. My own TV benenfits more with full RGB off otherwise the blacks/greys are crushed and colours do look noticeably washed out.

So therefore the way I see it is that, justified or not there are (some might say) valid previous evidence of either bias or unfair treatment of PS3 versions in the past from Gametrailers. Whatever I do feel they seem to be handling their damage control badly at the moment. Whilst I appreciate it is the weekend, some sort of official statement from them would seem appropriate. And even though it is the weekend they seem able to have removed the video rather quickly, banned various people for commenting about this on their forums and locked the contact page on their website.

Hope they can rescue this before their credibility does get irretrievably damaged because they are a good source for videos and their reviews in general are pretty good. Perhaps the practice of comparison videos needs to stop anyway and: One final point. Why do a comparison on unfinished code in the first place? The game as I understand it is unreleased?

fri559sp

madbassman39

Throwing a paranoid hissy-fit over something as minor as this is just foolish.

CheckersMcGavern

reecord2

Great post, proof is in the pudding!

EnigmaNemesis

Gametrailers atttitude toward the Sony has been prevalent since the beginning.

The best lies are the truth told with a slant. One quick visit to their forum will easily reveal their common stance. Take a quick glance at the subheadings on the particuar consoles:

Wii: Don't be left Wii-hind! Tell us what you think about this full motion system.

DS: Nintendo's handheld army!

Xbox 360: The concave beast awakens.

PS3: It's like the PS2... times 1.5!

PSP: The fingerprint machine that doubles as a media lunchbox.

Okay, that isn't a small part of the pattern either. You se it isn't the big actions - though the video is fairly blatant - it is often the small asides and euphemisms that are the most influential. There is the general attitude from the Staff.

And if anything, the duck is fairly obvious. I won't ignore the animal that keeps walking around and quaking, crapping on the floor, and screaming AFLAC every 2 minutes. Thanks for proving my point. I wondered how long it would take for you to come around.

Because when you think about it, the number of moronic (INTENTIONAL) errors that would have had to occur to allow their past actions to line up as they have is a great deal more complicated than the fact the site is biased. And with bias being the simplest explanation, well...thanks again.

Hatchetforce

[www.snopes.com]

siamgx

Mistakes can happen - nothing is foolproof, as fools are ingenious.

i.roboto

Oh I have acknowledged there are issues raised in this thread, such as colour settings, which indeed should be looked at by GT. However if you want me to consider a building popup and editing screw up as a basis of a grand conspiracy then, no thanks, I'll pass.

Seems the more apparent pattern is your fervent defence of Sony in many of your posts. The fact that you attacked me for merely using them as an example in one of my prior posts illustrates how jaded and biased your views are.

Gametrailers is a multiformat site which earns money through advertising and not hand outs from MS to Viacom to MTV and finally into their back pocket. It is clearly in their best interest to not push away PS3 owners with bias to the degree you're proposing and as part of a strategic campaign.

"When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

Yay, top marks for convoluted interpretation there. So how exactly have you eliminated the fact that this was an editing error? or even a string of errors if you want to address your "pattern" theory?

Derivative of Occam's principle:
"If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck - it's a duck"

or

"Of two equivalent theories or explanations, all other things being equal, the simpler one is to be preferred."

In short, you're seeing stuff that isn't likely there because it fits in with your views and opinions. It's like saying Kotaku is being paid by the French Canadians to destroy the English language with spelling mistakes and poor grammar.

Jelster

Deviation59

hell, if youve got the money, buy both versions. support the devs :P

bigman88zz

Viper

Maybe they're on the take. Maybe they just did a poor job of piecing together some files properly.

Either way, is there much "trust" to lose in gametrailers unless you're one of the few that cares about comparison videos to begin with?

GorbyGipper

necrozim

But really, I don't know who's worse ... Gametrailers for botching the video, or the fanboy who took the time and imagination to make this youtube video.

Where do these people on the internet find the time to make all these vids? I guess I'm just too busy playing GTAIV and Rock Band.

Strangelove

thinred

No Jester, you are refusing to see the pattern. One can only assume the motivtion in the desire to remain oblivious. I guess you believe people wouldn't perpetrate something so vile just because there is a billion dollar industry at stake. I can but surmise you were you also a defender of Gamespot? No?

Were this the first time Gametrailers had acted in such a questionable manner I would have been less inclined to be accusatory. I still would have been curious considering the obvious nature of the error. One also has to wonder about their file naming conventions, but it would have been over looked on my part.

However, repeated incidents create a pattern I for one refuse to ignore simply because I am a supporter of a particular piece of hardware. When such a design is coupled with the consideration that Gametrailers is in part a Microsoft property and business partner then I have to look at what has occurred in an honest fashion and point a finger. Even if that means being called a conspiracy nut, I will not ignore the facts.

"When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

On another note, it does little to bolster your position when you begin to jump up and down, wave your hands, and scream.

Hatchetforce

That's fine, but really that joke is only funny the first million and a half times.

robinandtami

@DugDawg:

Newsflash, bill gates isn't the ceo of microsoft anymore.

@Archaotic:
Yea arch, but it doesn't excuse fanboys for being fucking idiot tards.

ManjiKengo

BTW I am a 360 owner.

2SBs

PowerButton

Abriael

jmoney267

KosherInfidel

That was bs GT.

jocaju

lothia

"Dear Gamers,
Next time we'll be more careful when being biased."
Love, GameTrailers

Trailnutz

royaljester

hogarth1

silentbob343

While I understand you wish to keep things simple by not making changes on either system the fact is on certain displays full RGB is actually the "correct" output mode to use. It does nothing to change the graphical capability of the system, i.e. will not increase framerate, AA, AF, etc so I don't see using it as an unfair advantage or risking the integrity of the video.

I've done back-to-back with others and you can very easily notice the difference on said display.

silentbob343

stopcrazypp

stopcrazypp

BTW, if someone's posted that before I apologize, but 268 comments is a lot to go through. I just needed to be sure this was out there somewhere.

ihatepeterh

mpar

**WARNING SPOILERS: SECRET GT Conversation
**
"Quick, lets screw over the Playstation by showing Playstation footage but labeling it Xbox 360!"

"Awesome idea, Bill Gates will be pleased, we will all get bonuses and free Zune mp3 players!!!"

[High Fives around the table]

"Hurray! Except for one problem!"

"What's that???"

"It's showing the Playstation buttons on both screens!"

"Oh no!!! Failure. Our plot is ruined!!"

***end secret GT converstion***

I mean seriously, people. Is this what you honestly believe?

DugDawg

Exia

biofreak

But hey, I guess that's what most sites want these days...fanboys to argue over these videos and different review scores for multiplatform games. Guess they win in the end, ya know?

Saint Anima

There are always differences in systems and I want my hard earned money to go towards the one I fell is better.

Not to justify it, but to see if it's worth it.

If a company cannot be trusted to make a comparison video without bias and/or be lazy enough to make these simple mistakes (that are clear) then I will go find other sources and compile what people say about the game.

COD 4 had a noticable difference when it came to textures and I got it for 360 because of it. I am finding lately that the PS3 games are getting better and the differences are even slighter. The real difference I see is that the PS3 has a problem with higher resolutions (prolly due to ram). Sometimes it leads to blurrieness but this is rare. Grid looks sharper on the few noticable 360 shots and blurrier (when side by side. More like bloom though) But they are really identical in every other way.

This is minor. But I still want to see comparisons for multi-p games.

Netnavi

For the longest time there has been a ton of controversy that PS3 vs. Xbox showcases were unfairly representing PS3, the graphics in fact looked washed out and nothing like the look to people who played the game. It was controversial because every PS3 exclusive game had phenomenal and non-washed out graphics by comparison. It was sketchy.

Gametrailers constantly got on the defensive saying "We don't favor one console over another" but a lot of people weren't buying it. Lately people were beginning to think they had finally caved and were showing more accurate comparisons... until now.

Gametrailers is no better than gamespot, I have all but cut out using their site. Why some other site isn't capitalizing off "True comparison videos" I don't know. Gametrailers seems to be the only ones to do it and with obvious bias.

Daizaru1

Archaotic

delriego

The Red Comet

Back then, I never heard of comparison videos for Tomb Raider and Resident Evil, which ended up on the Saturn some time after their original release. Now, the fanboys get in a shitstorm over any little comparison video released, and it's sad.

Saint Anima

I believe you're the one casting aspersions while blissfully dismissing obvious examples that contradict you.

I brought Sony and Capcom up as examples of large companies which have made embarrassing mistakes. The point of which is to illustrate how ridiculous your "1+1=OMGZ IT'S CONSPIRACY" theory about GT. Grow the hell up, stop denying obvious facts and when you feel like being a condescending jerk, perhaps have more than vapid blinkered assumptions to back you up.

As far as me being deflective, don't make me laugh. You're the one implying a GT commentary where there was none, seeking prior contributions from myself before I can hold an opinion (WTF!) while dismissing anything but the subject to hand. LOL GTFO.

Jelster

mcool93

darktorns

trunk3h

There hasn't been a single comparison video they've posted in which they've declared the Ps3 version superior.

Palladium

kylo4

Hellion86

Beyond3D did the research already. Game runs:

BMW Intro
360: 30.000fps
PS3: 27.705fps

Nissan Intro Test
360: 30.00fps
PS3: 30.00fps

Mustang Intro Test
360: 30.087fps
PS3: 29.913fps

360
Race Driver: GRID = 1280x720 (4xAA)

PS3
Race Driver: GRID = 1280x720 (2xAA)

There's no conspiracy, they're identical. Even the physics from what i can tell. I've played both for a few hours so far and I have yet to notice any difference between the two.

string_theory

A new record! Almost 100 posts into a console thread before someone pops out the obligatory and greatly overused RRoD reference! Congratulations!

robinandtami

oneshot_

I didn't say a person commented, I said the video commented as in demonstrated. That was rather the easy to see purpose. Before you accuse someone of being a liar, try to engage your brain housing group along with a modicum of comprehension. Next time I will post my comments using a number 2 Husky pencil.

Hatchetforce

You are just being ridiculous in a very wounded manner. We didn't mention the improprieties of Sony or Microsoft either for that matter because they were not the direct subject of the article. When they are I will comment upon it.

Until then I prefer to try and maintain some appearance of decorum and STAY ON THE DAMN SUBJECT. The object of discussion is Gametrailers. In case you forgot, scroll back to the top of the page and reread as necessary.

Stop trying to deflect the issue. The last time Sony was accused of something, I don't recall you posting about the questionable actions of Gametrailers.com in that article so let them eat this one alone in silence without dragging in an unrelated situation. Stick to the subject, okay? That isn't too much to ask now is it?

Hatchetforce

somarix

somarix

@GTshane, we're sick of invalid excuses. Repeating blatant lies never makes them truth for the tech-savvy people. Sure, this GRID video could have been a slip-up, but mixing it with more bile (that becomes a direct insult to the viewers' intellect) is not giving you credibility.
And the contradiction here? A comparison-video being so neglected, and such ones being produced rarely, yet half a million views justify adding such content and more people on the payroll...
I guess people like me should stop viewing the comparison videos "just for that chuckle onto GT".

somarix

j.howlett

the_answer

Gam3r

I just can't understand why people are so willing to believe this. Why are people so willing to make this leap? who stands to benefit... Microsoft? That's another leap! Could it be Codemasters as they would love to push their products on 360 as it has a higher attach rate and larger install base.. maybe! That's the kind of conspiratorial logic I've been hearing and I find it strange.

@Mongoosekun: I am so on the take.. you don't even know! That damn `03 Toyota Carola I drive doesn't pay for itself!

okenny :)

Altima NEO

Internet Porn-> Resolution Phase -> Justifying Self Worth -> Mindless Conspiracies.

Just face the facts that too many people have too much time on their hands.

Jelster

yes knis5,you could say that,and that m$ can use advertising places that are unsold...
Wake up,is this a serious question??
gametrailers exist from ads
that are paid
by
m$...

steliosco

How is it anecdotal evidence? Either they did it on purpose or they are incredibly stupid to not even notice they didn't even film the 360 version or even try to recreate the same crashes on each system.

This should be taken seriously. You shouldn't be able to find Nintendo Power or OPM, etc to be more honest than these so called independent news sources.

chiefpoopingpants

ksins5

Exactly. How can you forget that you're only filming PS3 videos and not even coming close to attempting to do the same crashes?

Gaming "news" in general is up the butts of publishers but obviously some area getting too sloppy about it and their biases are coming out.

chiefpoopingpants

viacom<-mtv<-gametrailers/screwattack/xplay...

just paint the logo green so we know

Microsoft will buy advertising on Viacom broadcast and *online networks*
Kevin Johnson, president of Microsoft's Platforms & Services Division, said, "We are delighted to establish this long-term partnership with Viacom..."

/thread

steliosco

Erm thanks, was kind of an exaggerated joke though to emphasize the point. :)

Jelster

GameTrailers have been biased against PS3 for quite a while now. The only trailer where they seem to have taken care was in the GTA IV trailer and the Iron Man comparison where the PS3 looked way better than the Xbox 360 version. Of course the fan boys will say it doesn't matter because Iron Man is a crap game.

CartBlanche

bobtheduck

Guess its true, but thats been done every generation...well except the last. I know because I remember being that sad little saturn fanboy who cried because Sony kept paying for all these fantastic games...though it was a bit different back then, Sony paid mostly for new developers and started new franchises. While microsoft seem to be just taking the already established and giving them more money.

On the whole though its a bad tactic I guess because of what you say, but at the same time I dont think its the full reason. Regardless of what the sales numbers say, the real damage microsoft has done by getting onto the market first is that companies like EA start game development on 360 hardware and then port to ps3 more often then not. Microsofts money throwing doesnt have alot to do with that, its down to the higher software attachment rate and the installed base in the US.

Its the golden land Sony was in with the ps2. every multiplatform title started with ps2 and then got ported to the other consoles, hence why the xbox or gamecube never pushed that far ahead of the ps2 except with exclusives.

oh dear it seems I have droned on abit...I've forgotten if I agreed with you or thought it was some messy middle ground of modern markets in video games.

connla

Maybe after some long deserved rest I'll come back to this clusterfuck.

ManjiKengo

FYI Bill Gates is no londer involved with day to day operations, and it looks like the board might toss Steve out sooner or later to boot. Just FYI from someone that has to hear about softies bickering all day long. ;)

Mongoosekun

I explained in another thread that the $50mil equates to $166 per SKU if they can turn that into 300,000 additional sales. However the point is that if they didn't pay the money then Sony may have.

What I believe is a conspiracy is the belief that because MS is in partnership with viacom, who own MTV, who own GT. Along this chain a memo is sent down written in Bill Gate's own hand that says,

"Hey GT, I want to you make the PS3 look bad and the 360 look good, money is in the briefcase if you do."

To me that's just a little too far fetch when you consider the mundane explanations.

Totally with you on the cutting out the bullshit though. I grew tired of it back with the PS2 and wish the media would throw a more critical eye on it rather than just regurgitate it on the internet verbatim.

Jelster

Archaotic

thats cause the pissing contest was mostly between the saturn and the ps1. The N64 showed up late enough to make an impact but already know that it had no chance of catching up with the ps1.

On Microsofts propaganda...Apart from the reacent snaps at sony and the whole rrod fiasco, the vast majority of their strategy seems to me to be a we will give more and bigger versions of what people like, and if we cant make it we will buy it sort of tactic.

connla

He's just doing the job he's paid to do. ;)

Mongoosekun

I just miss the PS1 days, when every console did something different and there were legitimate reasons to own each one. You didn't have pissing contests between the PS1 and N64...at least, not to the degree you see today.

Archaotic

Just to confirm I have seen each and every post you've made with that full video, it isn't invisible. :)

Seems people are quite capable of missing multiple posts that contradict their opinions with clear facts. Which is kind of ironic considering they expect kudos for unearthing some conspiracy and spotting a PS3 button layout on 360 tagged footage.

Jelster

Krimmson

From what I've read here there seems to be some technical inadequacies in the testing criteria between the two systems (which GT should try to address) and a screw up in editing. What else is there really to get worked up about?

@Archaotic:

Like Sony didn't start that with the PS2 or even Sega and Nintendo with the Snes and Genesis?

It's going a little far to think MS are buying out every media outlet on the planet to make the PS3 look bad and the 360 look good. Bigger the conspiracy, the more people who know, the greater chance of a whistle blower.

Jelster

between editing out the original mistake, capturing in replacing footage, compressing the video in multiple formats for uploading, doing a hd and a sd version.

uhmm

yeah it wouldnt be an instant fixer, esp if like GTshane has said the video is second priority to other bigger titles.

connla

you mean this full video...the one with no commentating at all during the video

+ Watch video

it is the third time i have posted it on this comments list.

You might want to try a different blatant lie.

connla

Anyway, ScrewAttack has lost a fair amount of popularity and quality since Tom left, so nobody really cares anymore. If it weren't for the AVGN, I wouldn't even look at their stuff. To think, there was a time when I digged everything, from the daily updates to videogame vaults.

Candlejack

Krimmson

Strange Bedfellows

Whatever happened to honest, legitimate business? Why does everything have to be corrupt and flame-y? I'm getting so sick of this industry.

Archaotic

Didn't Sony screw up multiple times in their use of PGR screenies in their own advertisements? Wasn't Okami recently boinked for using cover art sourced from IGN rather than the original artist?

Seems you and many other commenters have a blinkered view of the world that allows you to look at one thing without comparing to the real world around you. So while I don't discount your interpretation as possible. I do think you're basis of analysis is most certainly biased; if only because you choose to ignore other mistakes people make because they don't happen to corroborate your interpretation.

Jelster

Unless GameTrailers had something against PS3, why would they host something so blatantly biased?

Strange Bedfellows

Strange Bedfellows

That was made by screwattack. Screwattack arnt owned by gametrailers, they are their own website that has a deal with gametrailers allowing them to show their videos on GT to get more views.

And screwattack hate all things PS3.

spargo_1

wyshad

The reason they would do this is simple and it wasn't an honest mistake. Were this the first time they pulled a stunt like this I might be inclined to cut them a little, very little, slack. But it isn't the only incident.

The last time they did something similar it was their method for capturing video and they used a procedure that deliberately put the PS3 at a disadvantage. Then they were busted.

Now we see them doing a comparison and if you saw the entire original GT video, it commented on how the 360 physics and environment interaction were superior to the PS3 version. As we all know, they used the PS3 version masquerading as the 360 to try and paint the PS3 version in a bad light.

It should be patently clear that Gametrailers has an agenda and I can't very well look at it any other way after this last incident.

I have been following this from the beginning and posted the link in a previous Kotaku thread. This is a level of unethical activity that far exceeds anything Gamespot has perpetrated.

Hatchetforce

Strange Bedfellows

in any case, corporate bias and influence certainly might have an effect on how things are run, but it's a little too reckless to accuse GT of 360 favoritism simply because of what might be an honest editing mistake. besides, if GT was anti-ps3/pro-360, why the HELL would they be running their metal gear retrospective right now?

Nihon no Purin

But there are many commenters here that aren't level headed. At best they are rabid dopes who run off at the mouth before apprising themselves of even a few details. At worst they're crazy conspiracy nuts, wrapped in fanboy clothing, wrapped in a outer coating of vapid drivel.

Jelster

[www.gametrailers.com]

I mean, take that for example. ScrewAttack episode about should your trade or keep your Wii. At the end, he says (after recommending you to sell your Wii if you don't play it often): "I mean, think of all the cool things you could spend that money on: college, books, a 360..."

Then after a pause, "Or dare I say, a PS3? ... Nah!" accompanied by a farting sound. It's posed in just such a way that they can easily claim he was saying "Nah" to the whole kit & caboodle, not just that you shouldn't get the PS3. But I think the implication is pretty clear. If they didn't want to come off as subtly denouncing the PS3 and praising the 360, they could have changed up the phrasing... put "college" and "books" at the end, just before the "Nah" and farting sound. But, nope. They make it out that the PS3 is worthy of a fart, and that you should not buy one.

Again, they are good at covering up their bias, but they have Viacom & MTV money in their pockets, and they have the commodities to cover their tracks and be subtle about it.

It only makes sense. Viacom is the parent and owner of GameTrailers, and Viacom and Microsoft have a lucrative and massive agreement, they work together and promote each others' products, especially in the gaming arena, where you have, among lots of other things, all of Viacoms video property available on the 360 marketplace as a single facet of their agreement.

It comes off as conspiracy theory-ish, but if you just think about it for a minute, you can see how these corporate conglomerates are in each others' pockets and work to promote each other and help each others' causes. GameTrailers is pretty closely related to Microsoft in that regard.

Strange Bedfellows

Barbara

Haha, poopie head. Man i'm so immature.

Mpalm.

No big deal in my opinion. It's just a video.

panzerjedi

Daimyo

DorkimusPrime

VixDiesel

All I can say to the people at Gametrailers is : " You fucked up." " Yes....you fucked up."

IkariX

p.s. and yes, that getalife buliding disappearing in ps3 version of GTA4, when ps3 has less pop-in problems looks kinda strange.
p.p.s. and such BIG site like GT could really find some people, which would replace all mutliplatform games cover for ps3 with ps3 cover just for 1$ GT for example or even free.

CrazzyMan

This is clearly just a mess up.

"But what about the fact that for the "PS3" footage they don't even try to hit things at angles, but for the "360" footage, they do?"

This could easily be explained with the whole mix up answer. They could have done decent tests to decide the 360 had better physics, and then simply chose the wrong footage to represent that.

I don't know. This seems like a really silly thing. They always review PS3 and 360 games fairly, and I trust them for reviews more than anyone else.

karasu is my homeboy

DelSource

kickfiend

TheDoomer

Murmaider

Instead, I look forward to viewing more videos of, say, GTA IV in which the PS3 is showing one of only about two pop-ins in the entire game whereas the 360 footage shows none - even though it's chock full of them........

.....and much more stuff like that.

DelSource

look here:

+ Watch video

its the video in its original context.

its not showboating the physics and crashes, actually it very much looks like the replays were tagged on at the end of the video, probably a late post production request by a producer or what not, no wonder a mistake was made.

connla

CartBlanche

Also, if you look at there Iron Man compersisson, the 360 version looks worse then the PS3 version, simply becouse of the contrast, if you check out IGN's Head to Head on that game, you'll see the exact same games, only thing they say is that the PS3 version have some framerate issues, Especially in the cut sceens, so I guess that makes Gametrailers fanboys of the PS3 aswell then? Since they messed up that review? Ofcourse this is going to happend when you work with probebly 10's of hours of video.

Kleppe

neojam

Ya know, even if they didn't use the PS3 version for both, they're still being unfair in their comparison, using two totally different kinds of crash to try and prove that one does crashes more impressively. Of course the one they attribute to 360 looks more impressive, it's just a far cooler load of action! It was unfair regardless of the fact that we can discovered both crashes were done on the PS3 version. And this is a regular thing with their comparisons. They constantly do things unfairly that show off the 360 versions as being more impressive, but they're not doing an accurate comparison of the games in as identical a situation as possible. Get me?

Strange Bedfellows

I also find it humorous that you implicitly saying there are commenters who are not level-headed here.

People that don't buy it = not level headed. "Don't agree with me and you must be a loon" is a logical fallacy in argument. It doesn't prove your point or support your perspective, it only attacks the messenger of the opposing veiwpoint.

"I'm right because the other guy is a poopie head" doesn't work.

PapaBear434

whoelse

must proof read more.

Jelster