Altima NEO

As opposed to what? Dogs and rollercoasters?

Spoffoth

Arttemis

It's not the fact that it slows you down, it's the fact that anyone can start shooting at you without even having to really aim. I'm not sure why people don't understand that.

OGHowie

@PGGB: No, I think it reads press [X] or [Triangle] in the PDF. There's no confirmation of a PC version...

yet.

FanDam

From day 1 (even tho it was a lil buggy for a couple days) i was able to play online... understood the "party" system was a kind of interactive lobby and that making games for just me and my friends means Custom Match with all slots made invitation only.

And seriously.. to those who think auto aim is cheap or makes killing to easy.. i think you are kind of missing the point. The reason it is easy to kill 3-4 people in a car with an m4 or an AK is because their movement is predictable and the location of the their heads is ALWAYS the same. Whether auto aim is off or on doesn't matter.. when you KNOW that someones head is gonna be in this general area and all they are doing is trying to drive straight at/past you it's incredibly easy to kill people.. especially if the car is full. Next time try not driving directly at someone who is lighting you up. It really is THAT simple. (of course.. coming in from the side to a gunfight inside an FBI buffalo and seeing someone flip 9 times through the air is a thrill GTA4 and GTA4 alone has claim to.)

The auto aim weeds out all those spray and pray people from FPS games who are simply used to swinging the reticle onto target and holding down the trigger. If you think it slows you down the free aim option is already there.. just use it and deal already. I have also been a little dissapointed at how badly the majority of people driving cars and trying to shoot at the same time are. Is it really that hard to make your brain do two things at once? I'm friggin tired of a drive by that i'm not in control turning into a wreck where i'm a sitting duck 5 feet away from the guy with the uzi.

silkysm00th

Gray665

Gray665

Ging

Btw, auto-aim is fine. They're definitely not kidding when they say turning off auto-aim makes drive-bys more effective. It basically makes anyone (smart) in a car nigh untouchable to guns. The sensitivity settings and hit detection in this game were not intended for use on targets travelling at car speeds. On foot, the auto-aim only goes for the body. Overall, the game is a sub-par TPS anyway, so a lack of auto-aim at all would piss people off.

Xiedo

I'm on the 360 version and tried to play with 5 friends last night. We were only eventually able to get 4 of us in a game at once. The others would get "game session no longer available". And we all have our NAT open. This game has issues.

Player4

DaiMacculate

Sure there are a lot of gametypes...but setting up and joining GTA games just seems like a pain in the ass after coming from Halo 3's highly polished MP setup.

henhowc

I don't mind if AA is on or off. Gameplay seems just as fast when it is off as when it is on. Though I admit, I do like when sniping, driving, and stabbing are actual possibilities, which AA can ruin. AA is also pretty annoying in Free Roam, when you spawn next to someone who will instantly lock on and kill you, rinse and repeat.

tcrat

also matchmaking rules, this whole host and options crap is annoying.

jigglypoofs

UltimatePancakeSensation

Callidux

Auto-aim also doesn't work over the full range that a gun can shoot. It's worth noting. Basically, auto-aim does a great job of simulating what it's like to shoot in real life - anyone can point a gun in a general direction (whether they are a pro with pinpointing analog stick movements or not) but those with more experience and skill will be able to shoot more effectively and precisely.

In my experience this is a great mechanic, since GTA isn't set up to work well as an FPS or 3PS like Lost Planet or Gears.

Granted, all of you who are good at typical shooters might feel like your skills aren't being recognized, and I can understand how you might feel like you're getting the short end of the stick because of that. But GTA isn't meant to be a typical shooter, and for it I feel this control scheme is beautiful.

UltimatePancakeSensation

Mr_Fuzzypaws

StrikerObi

You sir, are attempting to cause grief when there is no reason.

The article itself is titled "Rockstar Explains GTA IV Multiplayer". Before one even reads the article, one knows where the information is coming from.

Once read, it is mentioned at least three times the information posted is coming from the guide.

The only thing the article left out was a link to the PDF, which is basically unnecessary because the entirety of the PDF was posted after the jump, also mentioned.

Please increase your efforts to troll, because this was a very sad attempt.

MaxSteele

Now all they need to do is make it so that it'll pull in randoms to match team sizes rather than waiting for an equally sized team to join and to allow parties to play ranked coop (they can play everything else ranked together, just not the coop missions? wtf?) and the GTA MP will be hugely improved.

Ging

So yeah, someone can just lock on to you and keep firing, and some of the shots will hit your body. But all you gotta do in return is lock-on, aim for his head, and he's dead.

Seroth

Make a Party with your friends then search RANKED and not PLAYER.

You can do: TEAM: Deathmatch, Car Jack, Mafia, Turf, and one other I forget what it is.

I Spit On Your Comments

That being said, if anyone feels like having some auto-aim, non-asshat filled matches, invite me to some parties this weekend -- XBL:GundamAC195. I'm looking for some fun people to play with, and the ranked matches aren't it.

GundamAC197: Proud new Wii60 Owner!

hollowfreak

SigmundTheSeaMonster

Superuser

I was looking for info on this, and am very disappointed. At least CoD4 still rocks it.

jay427

otimus

Machete_Bear

I've only ever played "Free Mode" games, though... dunno if that has anything to do with it.

... Maybe I'll just go read that manual now....

PlayerX

Don't tell us to "hit the jump" if there is no jump!

wild_world_girl

Superuser

It is also annoying that we can't play the 3 co-op missions ranked with friends.

It took me a few days to get used to running this GTA MP. All the pressure was on me because all my gaming friends look to me to get the games going.

I Spit On Your Comments

PlayerX

Superuser

truer words were never spoken my friend.
every game... "TURN OFF AUTO AIM, BITCH" gets a little annoying.

ungivenglory

Koztah

I only know this problem from COD4. I had zero problems in GTA4 online play, besides to not be able to kill anyone, but i guess, that's just me being bad in this game...

Superuser

PlayerX

"2) Toggle to Multiplayer and press ( for PS3 or for Xbox 360) to accept"

so is this confirmation of the pc version?

PGGB

Other than that though, the GTA Multiplayer is a ton of fun, whether in Free Mode or Deathmatch. I'm a little turned off of the co-op modes from the few attempts I've done so far, but overall, they did a great job.

OneLetter

maxx77

I finally got some multiplayer action yesterday. Pretty sweet.

smashbruvah

MantisDragon

DaiMacculate

dinosaur

Ok, here's my problem.

I'm playing on a 60gb launch PS3.
I can get into and play multiplayer EXcept
I cannot join a game when invited by a friend and he cannot join my games either.
We can see that each other is online, and we receive the invites, but every time we try to join it gives a "game no longer exists" error and dumps me back to single player. We can play TekkenDR online, but not this. Any ideas folks?

Thanks, this is really bringing the game down for me. We spent a lot of time discussing all of the cool things we would do.

AlreadyDead

What is the success rate in getting online with a buddy? I have been trying since launch to link up with my bud and we both get the "GAME NO LONGER EXISTS" message once we accept the invite. Is there a tweak or trick to get this to work...we have tried all modes

PresDNA

OGHowie

xBETAx

I've not tried melee, but I don't doubt its awkwardness online. I'd like to think there can/will be some tweaks to improve efficiency all around.

Arttemis

You should try Saints Row. Targeting system is much more intuitive and doesn't require you to half hold (WTF?) or full hold buttons to shoot.

They have autolock in GTA because so many people that play it are casual gamers.

A great game but Saints controls are better.

OGHowie

Gray665

VixDiesel

I really don't like Halo, and enjoyed Advent Rising immensely (the distinction here is that Advent Rising had a similar auto-target/flick system...

But all too often the Auto aim targets the wrong guy (I want to shoot the driver, not the passenger) or skews your perspective 60 degrees one way or the other. In all, I find it to be inaccurate and jarring, not "easy."

I turned off auto aim in single-player and find the gunplay is alot less noisome, in that regardless of the "speed of play" the bullets go exactly where I want them.

Additionally, the autoaim ain't so hot when the online games consistently have a perceptible delay between bullets firing and their actual impact. It's not as bad as Gears, but it does require some legitimate leading of the target.

As a last point: Melee Combat is ineffective no matter how you cut it, due to the network connectivity. I was boxing someone last night and we apparently had our backs to each other to an observing third party, yet each and every hit was landing on air and causing damage to the opponent.

/Still love the game immensely, but would enjoy it even more if Rockstar would clean up the net-code a bit, so I don't have to watch cars bouncing all over the places in GTA Race and deal with the other network related issues described above./

crapsh00t

Also when someone speaks over the mic, their name doesn't pop up on the screen so you don't know who to report for making racist remarks or profanities.

2SBs

I've turned off the auto-aim, bc i feel like a cheater with it turned on. But maybe i'm just wrong to not use it.

However, the level in sigleplayer where you *SPOILER* have to rob the bank is damn hard. Maybe i should turn on auto-aim!? Can anybody tell me if i have to do much more if i come back out of the subway?

I really like the game, but it's awfully frustrating sometimes...

Superuser

Got a mic? GTA for ps3? Add me: Legaldeath187

Legaldeath187

That game mode is so fun, Rockstar. I swear I've played it over 30 times. All I have to do is press X, its so easy!

Tyber_Zann

wordzworth

That's a brilliant tip. I didn't know that but I'm going to use it from now on.

Manny

DugDawg

Now, if every CoD and Halo freak would get this into their head and realize this game isn't a FPS, I think GTA4 on XBL would be a better place.

Arttemis

and one for all is great but everyone quits when they die, now if they had gone for an infection match type, ie when the crooks die, they respawn as a cop, then that would at least keep the games populated.

jigglypoofs

There system is very counter intuitive.

This will make the experience much better.

Cheers.

Woodwater

Struct09

Ra is on Arrested Development!

Aglet

Go Team Venture

Good times.

fire ze missiles

JorgieX