Jac21

erlik

erlik

StickyPurpleCat

Daisuash

dafthero

fuchikoma

pashaveliki

So I guess the big question is, once the game is on the card, can you play it straight off of it, or do you have to copy it back to the Wii first?

UltimatePancakeSensation

dowingba

Wolfers

Daisuash

mariospants

As anybody who's used the SD-based medium can attest, the actual slot-based adaptor is shit slow - even on PCs - but if you get one of those el-cheapo usb-based SD adaptors, your transfer rate goes through the roof, comparatively-speaking.

If Nintendo hadn't thought this out before they launched the product, they're idiots of the highest magnitude. Since they probably aren't then their continued silence on the subject is baffling.

mariospants

dowingba

That is my humble opinion. Normal people aren't really running out of space, and who needs instant access to VC games you probably play once for an hour and never play again?

DrFresh

DazeOfWar

xpnet

sweetie55

ncsbert

I don't know WHY but I cannot copy my save games for Guitar Hero, Smash Brothers, or (and this one REALLY gets me) Rayman Raving Rabbits. These take up a ton of space internally that they don't need to always be doing. Never mind the fact that this means that whenever I visit a friends' place, no characters in SSBM and no unlocked songs in GHIII.

THIS needs resolved. Yesterday.

Orwellian

Seriously, Nintendo - give us external HDD support!

MR. FAP♥FAP!

One simple, though less than perfect, solution is to release a small game managing program. You set your preferences so that the program can automatically manage downloaded games between the SD card and the Wii's internal storage. Essentially, all your games, whether on the Wii or not, will appear as channels. If the game you select to play is not currently on the Wii the program will automatically free up some space, transfer the game, and viola! your game will start (after a brief loading period).

elementary

the space issue is fucking brutal.

TP/\C SHKR

TRT-X

Then the second point is that Wii may (I don't know but it's possible) be able to run software directly from its flash RAM. In other words, it may not need to load the software into RAM to run it. You can't do that from an SD card and certainly not from a hard disk - so if that's the case, it may never be possible to run some (larger) software from external storage.

Also who wants a big ugly power-hungry external HD stuck in the back of the Wii? If it supports USB mass storage, you really aren't going to need more than like 8GB, so a better option would be some kind of flash memory storage - kind of like the SD card it has in the front, in fact, but you know, faster.

So this is where the 'why is it slow, is it the hardware or is it doing crazy encryption' comes in. If it's the hardware then a USB hard disk or USB flash memory would solve the problem. But if it's the encryption then you might as well use SD, as nothing else will be any faster. In that case we'd just need to wait for Nintendo to sort out their encryption method...

quen

That has to be the most retarded thing I've read. So, you're saying a game has to be completely original to a system and on no other system to be considered a good game? By your logic, then GTAIV or any multi-platform game doesn't count as a good game on any system because it's a port to one system or another.

Normally I don't reply to messages like this because usually it's just jerkoffs trying to troll and instigate. But you come off dumb enough that I think you believe everything you type.

WordMan

Hey, anyone know if you can move roms dumped using the Twilight Hack to an SD card without leaving a ticket behind?

zgrowler2

KingBroly

StickyPurpleCat

@Shiryu:I agree. Let the games be run from a card or give us a USB hardrive in the next 60 days, but the delete and redownload trick isn't going to past muster here.

@Dragoonkin:People seem to forget the biggest reason for selling the HD apart from the system is money. Microsoft just loves people who buy a hard drive, that's sheer profit.

@xxabadabaxx:No matter how hard I try, I am hard pressed to understand what the hell your gibbering about.

@Gantz: Your Trusted Friend in Science.:If they didn't launch, people would be bitching up a storm in this current dry time.

@Onizuka-GTO:Wow, you read my mind.

@CarbonFalcon:Blah blah blah blah.

Foxstar Sixtail

Shitty thing is that you can't mover certaing save files to SD. Looks like others here are having problems with SD. Also keep in mind that 2GB SD is the largest size supported by the Wii.

SAKY

@cheeseboybeans: It depends on when you got your Wii and what you buy.

Also, I'll be back for next week too. And the next one. And probably the next one.

KingBroly

cheeseboybeans

this brought out the vocal anti-wii whining.

Should of posted this on monday.

:)

Onizuka-GTO

I have an 2GB SD card from day one, predicting such problems, But I had not atticipated my Wii game colelction reaching EPIC levels (54) in one year. I have about 1000 free slots and thats because I erased the entire SNES set (except Vegas Stakes and Mario Picross... face it, theyre crap) because I was out of save space for Wii games saves.

They just need to make VC and Wiiware game splayable from the SD card. I have always defended the VC and now Wiiware channels are wrong, they shoudl have one dedicated channel to run all games, not a channel slot per game.

Again, this is nothing Nintendo does not know and can easly fix with an update.

Shiryu

LuppyLuptonium

IAO6

If you are really this dense... I mean, jesus Nintendo alone have released more AAA titles in the past year than most of the other developers on all the other consoles combined. Seriously the internet has reached a new level of extreme ignorance with your comment. It boggles the mind.

dowingba

And just because I know this, one Gamecube block == 8kilobytes.

@Mattz:
No, the Wii does not support SDHC. 2GB cards are the max.

sugardeath

Mattz

Trowble (XBL/PSN)

My name changed for an unknown reason

Oh come on... this old canard again? Let's see, there are those games, Twilight Princess, Zak and Wiki, No More Heroes, Mario Kart Wii, Okami, Boom Blox, RE:4 and then a ton of 2nd tier games, etc.

And if you're including Lost Winds (which I've just been playing for nearly 2 hours; its fantastic) why not also include Final Fantasy CC? I just don't get people's continued absolute unwavering DEVOTION to the idea of there being no good wii games even after a near deluge of recent good games.

ajay42

The have a lot of nintendo's channels but it can't hurt that much.. can it?

Kenzya

The Gamecube may not have garnered attention from "hardcore" gamers (read: middle schoolers) or sold a lot of systems, but it had plenty of great games in its early years.

The Wii has Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, Lost Winds.... and... that's all I can think of. By this time in its life, the Gamecube had a fairly respectable library.

And call me crazy, but I really don't think the Wii needs a hard drive. Maybe 2 gigs of internal storage, but if you just give developers too much space, you get people like Kojima that waste it all because they don't want to compress anything. Lost Winds packs a hefty amount of gameplay in a small space and leaves quite a bit of room to spare. Set some limits, force developers to come up with crazy ideas that take advantage of everything they have instead of wasting it.

My name changed for an unknown reason

The WiiLite.

Comes in cream (as well as Wii WhiteTM), and features the Nintendo Storage Buddy add-on. The NSB is a helpful little robot friend that loves to store games in his tummy, which is 10 000 blocks big! He hates being alone, so don't forget to buy him some friends!

Miksho

No, wait, no I'm not. Go away.

sugardeath

Not yet on the wii. Finish your games. Once done transfer to the SD card. Problem solved.

Yetanotheruninspiredscreename

DimensionWarped

Dragoonkin

I understand you logic, but the point is that the Wii's hard drive obviously wasn't created with intent to offer downloadable content.

Nintendo now realizes their huge marketing mistake, and is trying to implement the feature, but does not have the hardware available to do so.

ScarletJew72

Aitrus233

segamanxero

Next time around, maybe Iwata should invest in an abacus or something before releasing a console with the same amount of internal storage as the 360 has RAM.

dowingba

segamanxero

But yeah, Nintendo needs to release a harddrive or external hardrive support for those that push the capacity. It wouldn't make the Wii any less easy to use for casual players. It's not like plugging in stuff is terribly hard to do. The cable goes where the slot has the same form as the slot.

Nirual

They knew this memory issue was coming (since everyone cried about it from day 1) and should have sorted it in the first place. The Nintendo apologists on here should pull their heads out of the sand.

If MS can sort their crappy DRM, so can Nintendo.

RetroBob

spiderweb1986

No, it would not hurt the "blue ocean" image you guys have going, because people who would buy a separate storage drive to save old NES games are the farthest possible thing from "casual" you can get.

Thorax

Back when the "Revolution" was announced, Iwata hinted that it had USB ports for external storage:

[au.wii.ign.com]

"Iwata told CNNMoney that Revolution users would be able to expand the system's 512MBs of internal flash memory with SD Cards, which can be plugged into the front of the console. SD Cards come in sizes upward of 8GBs. More interestingly, though, is what Iwata suggested to the publication, which is that because Revolution features two USB ports "… practically any storage method can be used." This comment would seem to indicate that users will, in fact, be able to hook up a hard drive to Revolution for significantly expanded storage."

So, it looks like they were thinking about it at some stage... but haven't launched support for it yet for whatever reason.

Marlor

I have no idea what could possibly be taking so long, except MASSIVE encryption being done to protect the s**t out of the file from being dumped and abused.

Even that...I have no idea why this takes so long. I coule have filled/emptied this card three times (2 gig card) on my PC in the time it's taking to move one VC game.

Dragoonkin

GiantEnemyCrab

MattB

"Also, I blame Ninendo for not explaining properly that you CAN delete games and still "own" them. ( And also keep the savefiles.)

I honestly dont think more than half of the people complaining know about this "feature"."

Oh, I know that you can do this. I also know that having do constantly having to delete data to make room for other data is enough of a pain in the ass to make me seriously limit my use of the service.

Like online play, WiiWare will likely be much more difficult than it needs to be thanks to Nintendo being Nintendo.

GorbyGipper

MattB

PatMan33

GorbyGipper

thejakeman has died of dysentry

thejakeman has died of dysentry

eastx

I am not sure if this will be fixed with a firmware update, but if the Wii does have SDHC hardware, I cannot imagine a reason to not have it enabled from the start.

An external HDD is the only option. I am sure Ninty is in no hurry though, what with the piles of money that the Wii and DS are already bringing them.

regnez

I honestly dont think more than half of the people complaining know about this "feature".

ItsHammerTime

I'm not even kidding.

For the most part I'm pretty much over complaining about Nintendos stuff. Usually when you complain a company reacts quickly to make things better. Nintendo is rolling in dough/yen/euros/other monies and could care less about your cries for more space. I've just stopped buying their stuff. It saves me the headache of dealing with arbitray limits and Nintendo won't even notice.

I will be buying Pokemon Ranch though. I need that. :O

Aflack: Likes slushies

Don't know where Nintendo could plug a hard drive into the Wii either unless there's a port lying around I've missed.

MattB

I never play more than MAX 3 games at once anyway, so works great for me. My games are stored on the internetz if I want to play em again, instead of a HDD. Not much of a difference, ne?

ItsHammerTime

SkutSkut

Roto13

Just a crazy scheme I was pondering.

PatMan33

Nobuyuki

Len Bias Cocaine Surplus

Reetesh

i just don't understand you nintendo, i just don't.

Gantz: Your Trusted Friend in Science.

cpmui99

I just cant see them coming out with some bulky external hard drive unit that you have to sit behind the Wii plugged in via USB.

mikevanpwn

MattB

Grave

Artful Dodger

blackswordca

Seriously, you Bought the system knowing what it had and did'nt have. its like buying a car with no engine and then complaining that it wont take you anywhere.

Spacehog85

You do know Medal of Honor is third party, right? Also, what are you trying to prove? You didn't really complain about anything in specific.

Sooku

Really wasn't going for that. I just feel they'll approach it in a manner that made it seem like it was always their intention to introduce a hard drive, and disavow earlier comments about how it might be unnecessary.

Maldron

Of course, once you begin purchasing SD cards for your Wii because there's not enough internal memory, you've effectively turned it into a PSP. Bummer.

Artful Dodger

but if you count wii channels + save data then you will see a problem there =(

(俗・ ) Grey Gecko

And don't tell me that the broadband adaptor was only used for PSO even if that is true. I know that, but if internet was built in, maybe companies would have found it more lucrative to design games with online play.

CarbonFalcon

xxabadabaxx

crazyorloco

Len Bias Cocaine Surplus

mode7even

NessD12

Americo

Great idea.

Marios_shadow

JorgieX

Zerozaki Ishiki

Luke Plunkett

Archavious

Marios_shadow

GusherKid

TalKeaton

Len Bias Cocaine Surplus

alphonse610

I just wish the data didn't take so long to transfer though.

NeoNess

Scorpi

Maldron

GiantEnemyCrab