Eville1

CoDA gets released by Infinity Ward.

Then Treyarch starts working on CoDB.

Then, at EXACTLY the same time, Infinity Ward is working on CoDC.

Meaning, they both begin development at EXACTLY the same time. But instead of forcing people to wait three years, they have Treyarch release their game a year and a half to partially satiate the audience.

Not sure if that's it, but it could be. Just a thought.

yamamoto114

Hylian

Too soon?

Antlerbot

Now, I'm definitely not defending them because 3 was atrocious, but to say that Treyarch can do nothing but evil to the series is just ignorant. United Offensive, although just an expansion, took the franchise a great leap forward, cementing it in the public's eyes as something special amongst the WWII shooter genre. Honestly neither CoD2 nor CoD4 has ever kept my attention as much as UO. Granted that does somewhat come from my gripes about Halo-izing the FPS genre, but I've never had more fun with a shooter before or after United Offensive.

So, my hope? That Treyarch can capture that essence again and stray away from another CoD3 blunder. Doubtful, but hopeful.

HalcOneX

kiigan

This time, they had two years. I'm taking a "wait and see" stance.

mind in rewind

levarien

Seriously, we have 3,000 WWII shooters to choose from, enough already.

I *might* go for something as quirky as Civil War based, but really would prefer another modern warfare based version.

Coffee Ninja

Maybe COD6

kingme

I honestly don't understand why developers keep making WWII games. There are more than enough to choose from. I mean, do people really still buy them in large enough numbers to justify?

I'm sure CoD5 will sell like fucking hotcakes that give people superpowers, as the folks who aren't so tech-savvy will assume that as the sequel to CoD4, it is similar but better.

As opposed to being almost entirely different and made of fail...

Uzumaki_Kiba

wolfzero

anonymousryan

Derigor

TheDutchDon

Vietnam and WW1 are two wars that would just have problems. The fact is that they were quite possibly the two shittiest wars you could have ever fought in. WW1 would consist of going over the top and praying, while Vietnam would be about spraying random foliage constantly in case there were VC there, then wriggling through booby-trapped tunnels two feet wide.

CONFIRMED: COD5, THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION!

Stand in epic lines and wait 40 seconds between shots! No pesky iron sights to get in the way of aiming! Marks the addition of dice rolling to determine if your head is taken off by a cannonball!

tzaketh

KM91

Biscuitcleaver

LunchViking

LunchViking

rateoforange

Snappywave

And can we go to 'nam? Or what about North Kor.... North Unspecifiedastan.

Salen

Call of Duty 5: The War of 1812

One or the other. Either anti-pinko sentiments, or muskets and Canadians.

Quilt

I liked COD4 but none of the other ones. If COD5 is a re-iteration of COD4 while adding some blatantly missing features (like co-op) then I will be interested. If we're going back to the trenches of WW2 then you can count me out.

Sinnix

Civin

karmaghost

Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc

Punkateer

TheAbsoluteJay

that why were going back to WW2

bigsamboni

NPlace

Apoch

RTW

I see no reason why IW couldn't do a fictional war. Maybe near future, post-apocalyptic even?

CoD5: War for drinkable Water

belo

Its going to suck.

If its on PS2, that means they aren't going to be taking full advantage of the current gen technology.

PS2 is last gen. Stop making games for it.

Blinklink11

@jihadjoe343: @Tolgak: It's the multiplayer that makes COD2 & 4 great IMO

SAKY

Nissan288

GustoGaiden

Tubatic

The Crimean is where it's at.

Apoch

But hey, a video capture feature in COD 5 wouldn't be bad. One can wish.

Trowble (XBL/PSN)

I still think that'll probably happen, but Activision isn't going to own up to it until after COD5 hits. The average person doesn't know about how games are developed and will assume COD5 is going to be done by the same people who did COD4.

If Activision were smart they would give this new game a subtitle and not make it part of the series.

skullivan

jihadjoe343

Eville1

gunstarhero

Perhaps sub out the Balkins folk for the CIA, who had been shipping weapons in return for some sort of rendition style secret prison in SWA, only for the guys running the prison to go behind their back and resell the weapons/leak funds to their south american comrades.

mrantimatter

Since kotaku ate my link, here:

"In warfare, a theater or theatre is defined as a specific geographic area of conduct of armed conflict, bordered by areas where no combat is taking place. In many ways the term is derived from the Colosseum of Rome. A theatre is defined by the need for separate planning to be occurring at the highest command echelon of the participating armed forces, including where separate Services are concerned."

HAGE

@Tolgak: Sorry have to disagree with you there, I thought the AI was fairly okay and the vareity in the level design made it espically great. The sniping mission, the one where you were in the helicopter using night vision, the AI was hardly mind blowing but then its just not that kind of game, the single player was kind of a rollercoater ride

excel_excel

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Words are your friend, and they can even mean things.

HAGE

Seriously, I wish Sony or MS would buy Infinity Ward from Activision, I drool over the thought of what those guys could do working solely on one exclusive platform.

KEELr

HAGE

Think of it, you have vicious jungle fighting against terrorists/drug lords in one stage, then the mountain/village fighting in the next.

Another neat one to do would be Tears of the Sun style fighting in Africa.

Anyways, if they went south america/western asia, then we could do some whole Iran/Contra style stuff. You could have the rebels in S.A being secretly funded by some deal with the terrorists/insurgents in W.A. the people doing the dealing would be the focus of the last parts of the game, perhaps takign us to the caribian, or even to some shady folks in the Balkins.

To lay it out:

After the fall of Yugaslavia, and the defeat by Nato at Kosovo, a rogue militery cell based in serbia decided to start a war by proxy, by selling captured or leftover weapons to the folks in Southwest Asia, who then paid the money to the rebels in south america. Whent he connection comes out, it's a race against time to capture or kill the Serbian rogue element before they ether vanish into the war torn balkins or commit some scortched earth tactics via chemical weapons, as one last act of spite.

mrantimatter

Trowble (XBL/PSN)

I just hope that CoD 5 is not in WWII...

StealthMaster86

ca$h

How about an alternate history/future in which in the government becomes a police-state dictatorship and you lead/participate in a resistance? Sign me up.

Spaceboy

.glib

The problem is that COD4 has almost no AI. The game follows the same formula in almost every level.

Step 1: Arrive
Step 2: Contact never ending set of enemies*
Step 3: Run to a forward location that will stop spawning of enemies
Step 4: Move on in the level
GOTO: Step 2

*Enemies spawn to same positions then remain stationary. Shoot an enemy, and one of two types of soldiers assigned to that position will come up within a few seconds.

Increasing the difficulty only increases the amount of fortifications and the rate of enemy spawning.

It's boring and there's no intelligence to it on either side. I get that AI is difficult, but to remove it almost entirely and then hype that your game is the best ever (and for game reviewers to do the same) shows me that people are caring less and less about gaming quality these days.

The approach is probably simpler than you're imagining. I remember watching some video about how FEAR's AI was extremely simple yet very effective. IIRC, it used a risk/benefit analysis for one of two moves: Flank and Attack. That's all it did and people raved about it.

Incorporate AI like in FEAR, then spawn all enemies in the locations they should be at when you enter the map. If need be, there can be some extra spawning out of view to save system memory.

It's way better than waves of stupid enemies whose only difficulty changes result from different amounts of lead in the air.

Tolgak

hollowfreak

SAGA

SFLegend

Seriously, let's do that. There's a world outside of what the United States participates in. I'd like a game about other things... even if it's a relatively small conflict or completely fictional/alternate history.

Spaceboy

kingclip

Last_Raven

foxhound417

IMO, futuristic/sci-fi games allow the developers to really get creative, and let loose the reins. Now, whether or not they do it well, that's up too the developer :P

Coquiton

COD4, on the other hand, is crack.

FanDam

Even worse when understanding the term flanking. Often times you need a developer's scriping and triggers to get those things to work cause complex AI like that is hard. Even so, you get asshats who will bitch about 'spawnings' that make the game unrealistic.

What made CoD4 so amazing, past the hot MP, was the presentation. Little things and big things were all there, polished and tested. Will Activision give the next CoD5 developer the time and cash to make it 'polished' or will it try to cash in properly for a Q4 release off the hype of 4 is the question of the hour

huginn

@sakipooh:
Avenge me!!

enewtabie

And anyways, IW needs to make the damn game. I don't know what Treyarch was on when they were developing COD 3, but they should never again be left with a respectable game franchise to fuck around with. For shame!

xAnarChisTx

tnx3

caleb

How about a WWI game? Trench warfare at its finest.

Silent Predator

I'm ready for a civil war game.

skrame ☆

Does Not Equal

sakipooh

Lazlo

They're trying to milk money every year out of this series but people like me just won't buy COD if it isn't modern and similar to COD4. They should just release it every 2 years if IW doesn't want to be rushed.

pot3ntial2suck

CenatorC

Spiderbait

LionheartAce

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For a new IW COD it would be interesting too see them do it based on the private sector. Cept the name call of duty wouldnt fit anymore if they did though. Would make for an interesting story and even better MP though. But Id say they would so need to have vehicles for that to work well.

Witzbold

InfernoT

Shiryu

I thought Vietcong was a pretty solid game. It did a great job with the atmosphere, with traps in the jungle, crazy squad member shouting racist slurs and a sergeant riding your ass, probably packed with the most amount of cursing iv heard in a game. It was pretty badass imo

Lokku

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This is relevant to my interests.

axiomatic

tnx3

enigma89

DugDawg

The_nub_next_door

The better question:

Is it still going to be a long game of whack-a-mole or will they finally put effort in to AI?

I don't care who makes it. They can put the game in whatever setting they want and throw in the best graphics ever made for all I care. Only when they add real AI to the game (and quit giving the guns wimpy sounds) will it be something worth hyping over.

Tolgak

Now if COD5 has a Matchmaking with Party system then i'll be more than willing to give it a try.

Hopefully NOW developers will learn why HALO, COD4, & GTA4 are so fun for online & will always take the top spot: The PARTY system with Matchmaking. That truly is the key to making everyone enjoy playing games online.

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vanderblade

I thoroughly enjoyed Battlefield: Vietnam.

Sundermania

Sundermania

unless the wii is the lead version and the ps2 version is ported significantly down from that, im not happy. as it is, call of duty 5's future on 360/ps3 is questionable.

sitsalot

WhiskeyJak

Potentially Billions could be decided here. Why? Cause one knows how to make games, and the other knows how to copy games.

My guess? The rumored North America expansion for CoD4 is made out into a fullon game. You're a full on HLS agent this time tasked with saving America. And no, I don't mean from GWB.

huginn

enewtabie

Battling aliens. Yep. That's what I expect from Treyarch.

Spoony Bard

It has to be a contractual obligation? I don't understand why you wouldn't have Infinity Ward take over with the sheer awesomeness of CoD4.

gils0n

Muffin_Man

Either way, it is going to pale in comparison to CoD4, just as CoD3 did compared to CoD2.

KillerBee

DugDawg

So, I guess that means I'll wait for COD6.

karasu is my homeboy