Narfmaster

Nice!

Billkwando

I think my personal favorite was the No More Heroes review.

"....and it would be AWESOME!"

Billkwando

HELLSRIDER

Garonyldas

Depends on your point of view. I don't find Soul Caliber or its like very deep, but that's because that's the kind of game I like to button mash on. The only real 2D fighter I have ever enjoyed actually developing strategy in is the Bleach: DS one.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, there's Pokemon. A game that is marketed primarily to younger kids and has a kiddy image to the general public.

Yet the gameplay mechanics are so deep that there are entire databases dedicated to explaining every bit of the complex underlying metagame.
[bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net]
[serebii.net]
As well as devising winning strategies.
[www.smogon.com]

Mact

Jac21

Daisuash

*cough*

[classygamer.blogspot.com]

*cough*

"As much as I can't deny them my admiration for finding new ways to approach videogaming, there's something I'm beginning to be quite sick of. In the end basically ALL Nintendo games are based on the same old franchises that we've seen for several years and countless games."

*cough*

"Luckily, with potential masterpieces like Soul Calibur IV, Street Fighter IV and King of Fighters XII, this years won't be short on fighting games, and as such i'll just skip Smash Bros altogheter. I already played two of them, and had enough."

*coughIronycough*

I think that'll do.

Mact

Erm... someone is a bit ignorant of Halo fanboys. Or Final Fantasy fanboys. Or any other fanboy in the world.

All fanboys can be equally virulent.

But thanks for giving a good example of what a fanboy is.

Mact

Since when did I say anything about being perfect? I simply said that the gameplay can hold up on its own because it is deep enough to do so.

For a game to achieve that kind of attention to warrant professional tournaments is a sign of this. Yes, tournaments are about being the best. That's entirely my point. There is no satisfaction at being the best at something that takes little skill. That's why ESPN shows poker tournaments and not Go Fish.

You can throw all the rhetoricals out that you want, but they are not the case. Red Steel tournaments don't exist for the aforementioned reasons.

Mact

Heartless1

Must be the inferiority complex.

Abriael

Barbara

I laughed. And henceforth was happy.

Danj3ris: man of many overlooked ideas.

I assumed all the people pestering him about reviewing it were people who wanted to see him rip it a new one, because that's obviously what they were gonna get.

gsilverfish

Not relevant in Yahtzee's case, but opinions absolutely can be wrong, usually in one of two ways. Most commonly because the opinion is based on incorrect information. Examples of this are the belief that Vista sucks because it crashes all the time (Vista may suck, but not for that reason; it's fairly stable running in the ways it was built to be run) or that Macs suck because you can't do any real work on them (sure you can; most of the necessary tools are readily available)

But more subtly an opinion can also be wrong if it's based on a judgment of invalid criteria, such as, "Schindler's List sucked! I only laughed twice in the first hour, and then I had to leave because I was just groaning through all their attempts at "jokes", which distastefully come at the expense of holocaust Jews!"

It's okay to dislike Schindler's List, but if you went expecting it to be funny and were disappointed when it was not, that's a reflection on you, not the movie.

HonusWScruggs

PS.I haven´t played Metroid Prime 3, because i didn´y like the first two, sorry.

Daisuash

Tulkamir

Replacement unit #3 is going strong for just over a month so far!

dbushik

*ahemMetroidPrime3ahem*

But I find it hilarious that you are still comparing a 2D game to a 3D game while insisting that it's a legitimate comparison.

Mact

Gameplay can't hold on it's own?

Is that why there are national tournaments?

Mact

So, essentially, your problem with Brawl is "NEEDZ MORE SONIC".

What's wrong with Sonic's moveset? Frankly, I thought it was very creative and stayed true to what he was. Do you really want them adding excesses to his mode of play? [xbox.ign.com]

Silver probably got in because Sega TOLD them to put him in. So how about complaining to the people who spawned the ilk?

I don't know what to say to your assumption that Eggman deserved a boss position though.

I think it's ludicrous that you have a problem with too much content as far as music goes. Especially content that can be entirely ignored by setting the probability of occurring to nil.

On map editor, I believe your request is that they should have buffed it. To nerf something implies that it was ever better.

Mact

President Amahdinejhad of Iran thinks that the Holocaust is a Zionist conspiracy.

See? That opinion is wrong.

1gunners4

Adam In Texas

I personally enjoyed the game quite a bit, but to each his own.

Another enjoyable 'review' from Yahtzee. I look forward to them every week.

Capp

AsWater

Just awesome.

axiomatic

Lol! The funny thing is that this video was made for YOU!

Great fun how every comment can be related to the video. Yay!

NiGHTSSTUDiO

"I'm not a fanboy....Yes you are" LOL

MURDERFACE

@otakujpop: Yes, this is something i don´t like about the game either, that the thing that makes this so "good" is the fanservice only, like i said before, pull off the characters and you´ll obtain a so-so game with so-so reviews, no the fanboyish reviews it has obtain (EGM México pulled a really fanboy review in fact).

Daisuash

As for Yahtzee: I thought he said he would talk about arguments? Not...whatever those emails were...

JGab

Ruzi

Daisuash

krushjudgement

ST19AG_WGreymon

Viper

Seiven

I thought it spot on and hilarious. Can't wait to see this one.

diablodevil2

I'll agree with the context though; those guys were dumb for combating your opinion on a game. But your also wrong for thinking you can professionally give an opinion, unless someone recently redefined a review in the journalistic pursuit of facts? Otherwise you've successfully labeled this site a blog, which delves even further into the naivety of those mailers as I figured that out my second visit here.

Opinion is most definitely not a fact make; in reviews there is a fine line between the two. Granted should all writers as yourself base their reviews on historical data over emotion the reviews would look identical... which would be boring... such is capitalism I suppose.
I'd guess you could just follow the trend and slap in a perspective on niche, then it would become interesting to read a review from you.

dib8rman

Gray665

Oh fanboys lawl

RanChan03

genopixel

laencythe

His statement tacitly acknowledges a bit of 'societal imbalance' as an aside.

And my little analysis just killed a joke that was funnier when said with one word.

(And if you disagree now, don't worry. you'll understand when you get older.)

dujrock

I don't know if this applies to Brawl because I haven't played it yet but it certainly applies to some games.

Candlejack

I just don't understand why he even gives the unwashed masses the time of day. He should never review something that doesn't interest him, and shouldn't feel pressured by the internet hate to justify his opinion.

Ma1agate

AgainstOne

good on 'im, its got it all, fanboy bitching, taking the piss out fo gamespot and foul language= WIN.

for the record i love brawl but some people just aint heard of the phrase "to each his own"

underground_slacker

An opinion can't be wrong... but an opinion CAN be poorly formed. If someone is under the opinion that, say, all white people are racist, then, yes, he's entitled to his opinion, but it is woefully uninformed.

Similarly, opinions aren't the same as facts, and can neither be nor directly contradict established fact. Cats are cute = opinion. Cats are mammals = fact, not opinion. Cats are reptiles = wrong, not opinion.

Handsome Fat Man

Evil Jim

You think Nintendo fans are the only ones that send him hate mail?

TRT-X

Your correct and to summarize: less intelligent people (or perhaps less articulate) use Yahtzee's videos as a flagship for their argument against a game. Many people dislike SSBB (referencing to those that dislike it because they never played it) and will use Yahtzee as a better argument than "lol sux". The same applies to fans using high scores to validate the games worth (see GTA 4).

I enjoy Yatzhee's videos mostly because it's nice to actually see someone verbalize (and in a humorous way) the flaws (and strengths) of videogames.

It's very refreshing for me because everything he's stated in his videos, about games I've played, is exactly how I felt when playing them. I haven't felt the same level of connectivity to reviews since the Adam Sessler reviews of old.

Kanik

one thing strikes me, is that after watching yahtzee's reviews, people will tend to act in 3 different ways:
1. you take the 'review' for what it is, a laugh, and appreciate the truth behind the criticism.

2. you instantly go "rabid fanboy" and try to fill his inbox with mail like:"u suxorz, not even real reviewer."
(which case is depicted in this video)

3. you instantly agree with him, even if the game is 'good', because yahtzee said so it must suck, without even playing it or taking other peoples tastes and opinions into account. you may later play the game and find it enjoyable, in the meantime you'll try to put yourself above all others by making comments like:"I always found this game stupid anyways"..."most overhyped game of all time"..."never liked it to begin with"...or even "x-game sucks, the company made it sux, and the famillies of all developers who worked on it suck even more, x-console has no good games, and is a shitty console...."

although the second type are annoying, they're old news, we've seen it before and (like in this video) can easily handle them.
the reaction that most disturbs me is the latter one, in which people think they'll seem cooler or more intelligent by capitalizing on yahtzee's opinion, letting loose their fanboyish rave, thinking that, because it goes the same direction as yahtzees, no one might ever contradict them. the problem is, yahtzee criticizes intelligently, pointing out the various things about a game that make him dislike it.
saying "this sux!!!" is not sufficient... because you agree with him by stating that, doesn't make you like yahtzee, it makes you a tool.
/rant

laencythe

FhnuZoag

k3nji

I really wanted to like it, but I just can't really. It's a little more fun with friends, but my friends don't think it is, so they don't play it.

Ah well.

Zilor

WillyFourEyes

Lemming

FelicioLostHorizonPT

Personally I think he shouldn't listen to the bleeting sheep. So the idiot get what they deserve.

blkpaladin

I think I'll watch it again.

fecalchaos

what?

thejakeman: probably disagrees with you

When something you really like is made fun of for a poor reason (Yahtzee admitted to not liking fighters at the start of his review) it's harder to laugh.

Sinfjotle

BPMζ

JojoTheSlayer

Write like an idiot expect to get treated like one.

Even more so when you are trying to belittle someone else.

Witzbold

Don't get me wrong, I agree with him on most points, but still...

Pinhead

*breaks disc*

Really though, its his opinion. If we don't care about it, we don't hit play. Simple. I don't agree with his opinion on all sides, but I see a lot of them. Either way I laughed my ass off both times.

serotoninzero

The only other thing I'd say is when you spend so much time picking out every single negative aspect of games you play, and claim to want to be involved in making games yourself one day... well whatever game you make better be the best fucking game ever created.

Yea, I'm looking at you right now too Penny Arcade.

Sardu

But that's just it. It's FINE.

I'm not a Nintendo/Hal/Sora(?) employee yet I could point out about a hundred things "wrong" or that could have used some work. I mean, honestly, the game was delayed often enough.

Big one? Sonic's moveset. And his lack of representation by the once-decent mascots (limited to Knuckles and Miles Tails Prower) other than when they run through a loop that looks vaguely like something from the first Sonic game. Making this fact worse, "Silver" the Hedgehog runs through it, too. HOW THE FUCK does Silver qualify as anything other than a p.o.s.? How does "it" (Silver) get a spot amongst the only sidekicks that ever made sense? I'd have been happier seeing Espio or Vector than that crappy new recolor with bad spikes.

...And Shadow as an assist trophy (eh...), no Dr. Robotnik boss in sight.

This is barely the tip of the iceberg.

If they make another Smash game, much as I appreciate the music I say include about a quarter to half the music (IF that), don't unnecessarily double the length of the single player story by making the player go through every level AGAIN, and make every character's moveset as awesome as Solid Snake's.

Also, don't nerf the map editor so damn badly. It's like I'm trying to build a city with hooves.

I may enjoy the game a bit more than Yahtzee did, but I was really into Melee for a while. And I'm probably more easily pleased than he is.

But do keep sending him hate-mail, only because I found his response video hilariously entertaining.

Xiatter

el_rezzo

Secondly, opinions should be challenged if they're based on false premises and incomplete information. This belief that you can't argue with someone's opinion is extremely common, but obviously stupid, one of those commonly accepted truths that hurt intellegent debate.

That said, I think Yahtzee's funny and that's all that counts in these reviews. I just can't stand intellectual nonsense taking the place of universal wisdom.

ego531

Krytha

Nirual

Not there is anything bad about rather simple fighting games, Mortal Kombat and Dead or Alive, both goes also into that direction.

Problem is that a fair rating would somewhere between 7-8.5, depending how much you like Nintendo Characters, not the straight 10s it got from a lot of publications. At least it was finally a game that beats Paper Mario as 'most overhyped videogame of the year'.....

develin

JadedBlack

aldo_14

tehFluffz

Evil Tortie's Mom

Now rather than blindly believing internet rumors, let's take a look at some simple facts behind the "GameSpot takes bribes" claim.

Here are some randomly picked scores for recent, major release, highly advertised games from MetaCritic:

Army of two:
GameSpot Score: 65, average: 72

Burnout Paradise:
Gamespot Score: 90, average: 88

Bully: Scholarship Edition:

GameSpot Score: 70, average: 80

Condemned 2: Bloodshot:

GameSpot Score: 85, average: 81

Dark Sector:

GameSpot Score: 75 average: 71

Turok:

GameSpot Score: 70 average: 69

So let me ask you all, where are the bribes? Where are the advertiser influenced game scores? Seems to me like the scores are right in line with everyone else.

And hey, how about we look up Kane and Lynch, the purported source of all this crap:

Kane and Lynch:

GameSpot score: 60, average: 65

wow, sounds like GameSpot really sold out on that one. Can someone explain to me where all these illicitly purchased scores are?

lookatthefacts

Dopeski

If you can make that sentence make sense, then your comment might actually have some redeeming value. I'd love to know why a game is bad if other games in the same genre have been released in another country, on another continent.

Hint: it usually isn't, because it makes no sense.

spiderweb1986

Murmaider

ila

Petezah

That "too busy being fucked by me" line was gold.

syrantking

Has he bashed on games that I like? Absolutely. Do I care? Not even a fucking little.

Why does anyone give half a damn what somebody they've never met thinks about something that they like? If I like something, that's all I need to know. I like it. Nobody else has to. Fuck 'em.

Uzumaki_Kiba

olafson

I didn't agree with his review of Uncharted but as this is his opinion i ccan't fault him. I just don't agree on that particular game. It's that simple really, if you don't agree you don't agree. No need to get so worked up that you send him insulting messages about a game made by people who really don't care if you like it or not only that you have bought it.

Jamaicangmr

antialias02

And that I didn't care; Brawl isn't the best game to come out all year, but it's a quality experience that I enjoy.

This week's ZP proves Yahtzee still has it. He's earned another week of respect from this corner of the Internet.

antialias02

After seeing the "review", I'm not sure that the bit about his worth being measured by traffic was entirely untrue.

Wouldn't it be ironic if Yahtzee had been instructed by his employers (yes, he gets paid to do the vids weekly. omgz! capitalism!) to do the Brawl review in the first place. He did say himself that he didn't want to do it but felt obligated.

Would certainly make sense as this was a rather random choice of a vid of the week. The original bile would have been orchestrated for the purpose of generating material for an inevitable follow-up.

Actually would make his need to mention whateverthehellgamestore multiple times. More yummy monies? Who knows?

Maybe I'm being entirely paranoid. Maybe I'm just kicking myself because I just now came up with this theory and am kicking myself for missing the train (not that it would matter much as any letter that couldn't fit on the screen would either not be addressed or never be read).
Or maybe I'm just too big of a fan of irony and would think it utterly hilarious in the context of his Gamespot comment. :P

Mact

Orionsaint

Do Kesubei

Because you can't claim to be a man until you leave behing Peach's modest dress for Ivy's busting ladies?

Mact

CoinSlot

Or... the entire internet needs to get it's head out of it's ass and stop screaming about "opinions".

It royally pisses me off everytime it's mentioned because it leads to the inevitable "my opinion is my opinion!" which just makes me want to kick someone in the shin.

As frightening as it is, I look forward to when the internet becomes less anonymous. Then at least we'll have a cut down on the morons who are far too email happy.

Mact

normally I have to agree with his reviews because I have almost the same opinion about them... as for SSBB.. I haven't played the game so I can't say if I agree completely with him on it as it looks like a fun game for some time but considering that I have to agree with him most of the time I goes that I wouldn't like it that much to if you had to play like 5~10 hours only to unlock some extra char... :|

Shad0X

Sonovius

TheManator

Except not.

Because he stated that he watched Yahtzee for the humor, not the opinion...

Mact

I stumbled upon Maddox after his prime (don't remember how). My favorite quote still is:
" That the person is an American. For example, if you saw this guy walking along on a street, you would probably think:

'African American! LOL!'

...which is fine, except for one small detail: this man is British, which makes you a presumptuous cock."

Mact

gstatty

Well, I fear it may be a sign of decline. Maybe I'm being pessimistic. But I believe this was fully intentional.

For instance, if you watch his last review (whateverthehellitwas), he feels the need to state in the credits that "Brawl still sucks", which is pretty much BEGGING for hatemail.

But I, like you, hope this is the last of this. The last thing I want is for Yahtzee to spiral down into doing nothing but videos devoted to dumb people with a fascination for emailing others who disagree with them.

Mact

Care to send that to Yahtzee so he can tear it apart into smaller chunks?

Mact

Best Yahtzee video ever.

Mavwick

Wouldn't that work the opposite way?

I think you're just being casually ignorant that someone you enjoy listening to just might be a bit racist.

Mact

Funnily enough when I watched his SSBB review originally I though his comments were 100% correct...for every Nintendo franchise/fighting game except Super Smash Bros. With some of his comments I actually wondered if he had even played the game because he seemed to be hassling it for things like accessibility which always seemed to be one of the series' strengths. He then proceeded to say everyone who disagreed was wrong and that they were a Nintendo fanboy in some kind of pre-emptive insult.

I can understand him not liking the game, but IMHO it felt like a poor and rushed review. For me it was still funny enough that I could just laugh and enjoy. After all that's what people watch his reviews for. Can't say I'm surprised though if he got some negative feedback from the riled Nintendo fanboys since he seemed to be trolling more than usual.

I should point out too that I say this as someone who dislikes Nintendo as a company, the Wii (but own one anyway) and the Wii's current games library almost universally.

MattB

Glad to find someone who agrees.

Yahtzee not being into the genre enough to take some time to actually play it doesn't hurt my opinion or enjoyment of the game.

At least he bashed it with genuine humor.

Mact

Funny, I like how he shouted out Gamespot. He did it in good taste.

Yahtzees reviews serves as a form of entertainment for me. He's entitled to his opinion, as we all are to disagree with him, but who are we to judge when we get disheartened by someone opposing us? It's not his fault for disagreeing with you, it's your fault for having a problem with it.

Yahtzee, good job! Keep it up.

Trowble (XBL/PSN)

If you can win by randomly hitting buttons, I suggest up the computer's level or get some better competition.

Mact

I know that if I'm about to fire off an angry missive to someone who is internet famous for attacking every little element of something, who is fabled for his irascibility, who is a misanthropic critic nonpareil, I'm going to do my best to make fucking sure (as opposed to fucking make sure) that my bases are covered and I don't come off like an idiot who doesn't know what a dangling clause is.

Slatz_Grobnik

Palladium

KidU

JimElNino

Yesh.

The tourney force behind Melee is driven soley by fanboys.

And unless that was some obscure joke, Sunshine came out on the GCN.

There are two sides to fanboyism, ya know?

Mact

In comparison to games that take years to develop, and generally are very popular ones (unless Yahtzee reviewed some niche game that I missed), a letter that took probably three minutes to type in rage (with an inevitable use of capslock) is suicide.

Might as well write to Maddox.

Mact

In a sense.

Frank

Then again, I liked the Smash Bros review.

Ajh

meltyman

Which is wrong of course, but, whatever- let this review DIE!!

Zerbrechen

Arteen

mordennight

I did like the bit about the console comparisons, he should've added though that the PS3 doesn't know many tricks (doesn't have many games) Also should've added the 360 is also the cat you spend tons of vet money on.

Tomahawk214

Review.

Ever.

Big World

The one piece of advice I would have given him is that if he didn't want to expend the effort to unlock the quote "unlockables" un-quote, download a save to your sd card, modify it breifly for your console, and away you go.

That would be easier than actually expending your own time PLAYING a game for the rewards. But heck, that's half the game, for me; accomplishing the challenges. Sadly, there are far too many "play 400 matches to unlock blah" or , "collect 6 sextillion coins in a single coin match", which require no skill but simply mindlessly and endlessly repeating the same action.

Besides, snake and sonic both pretty much suck, and no one wants to play as them anyway.

Herabec

jayntampa

enigma89

That was... awesome...

Rubiximus

I'm also wondering what the 'wrong' aspects of the game to critique are... I was under the impression that you should critique any and all aspects, though Yahtzee focuses more on what he dislikes than what he enjoyed (because that's what the viewers want).

Reilaos~

noire

The Red Comet

otakujpop

IT WOULD NOT BE YAHTZEE, AND THE GAME YOU DESCRIBED WOULD NOT BE BRAWL.

Reilaos~

Paviel

Actually, I never played the game and I have a funny feeling that they selected the handful of letters that best suited the fast paced, punctuationless rant. Regardless of how right or wrong ZP may be... that crap was funny as hell.

Eclectified

Flibble

foxwarrior88

sarusa

goodknight

Green-clad Gamer Dude

Lets-game

Snakeman

[blog.capcom.com]

RWHC

Green-clad Gamer Dude

Doesn't make me a fanboy, just means that I choose for myself what to enjoy, and respond appropriately.

ShaggE

...says the chap with the Flames avatar ^_^

RWHC

Sqwerell

misc.insanity

Takamoto

Okay. Too many dick and fart jokes.

vanderblade

GettinMyGooseOn

mind in rewind

Green-clad Gamer Dude

*yawn*

Huckleberry

Ontopic: Funny stuff. Although he used some really cheap shots... (Mom jokes? C'mon now... I know you can write better than that. Your Trilby games are proof of your skill.)

And the "white enough" joke was... unexpected.

ShaggE

thekoopatrooper

Murmaider

Green-clad Gamer Dude

relic1980

poser85

Bokusatsu_Tenshi

Erwin

Alegery

fumar

Silverbackne

Wolfers

+ Watch video

I like this version better!

MonkeyBiz

Once I moderated this forum... it wasn't even about games, tecnology, gadgets or stuff that are usually fanboy magnets, but still had to deal with some of them.

And oh boy, how annoying and childish they can be. Usually people who thinks their own opinion is superior to any other.

And worst of all: most of them are so stupid they don't even have a good basis to sustain their own arguments.
They usually don't even know how to make a proper Google or Wiki research, and just sprout tons and tons of mindless bs thinking they can "win" or convince you of something.

Enough ranting, gonna watch the video now.

Bokusatsu_Tenshi

I liked Brawl, it is a good game IMO, but indeed it's very overrated and SSB fanboys make me sick..

CockroachMan

Fyren

Knight-Zero

But, yes, none are built for one game, except the Virtua Boy. Did that have more than one game? Zing.

KirbyMorph

mergedwarrior

Gamespot, C64, pure gold.

VixDiesel

Xiedo

wealthyman2

sarusa

MetaKz

Replica23

Murmaider

Ashkihyena