freespeech

TeaBean

It's also for 360 and PC I think. Official website says so anyway.

GregoriusH

NeoStarr

Majorasblaze

DugDawg

Very few of them too, and this looks more exciting than AC (in terms of moving around). AC got a little too repetitive after 20+ mins of running.

Plus this gives you the perspective of what it's like to be that character, who cares about showing off your moves (that's not even what parkour's about). Weight is even portrayed well!

maJorlaTte

Dear EA: Keep the breathing SFX, but please don't rely on three different samples; it *would* get repetitious. Mix it up. Get like 100-200 different samples.

The shaky cam is GOOD. Ignore the naysayers. Or let 'em switch it off somehow.

(damn, that soundtrack makes me cry)

Highlander Wolf

Waldo2129

Thanks for saving me from ever bothering to try a game that aspires to be something new and different...

/sarcasm

stranger

This is officially even more on my radar.

stranger

This is one of those cases where I hope the devs don't take to heart many gamers' first impressions of it. People complaining about how 'it won't work in 1st person' or 'the view looks weird'.

Really? Like how fist fighting and stealth 'didn't work' in Riddick: Butcher Bay? The perspective looks weird? It's a game about running, do you want to glide robotically along the ground like in Halo?

God forbid anyone experiment with ways of playing a first person game. The third person perspective complaint is weak, every single game like this (Tomb Raider, Crackdown, Free Running -The Game- ) does it in third person. While I certainly think the OPTION of a third person view would be nice, I'd far rather tackle the climbing/running/etc from a fresh perspective that's polished.

So long as they don't make the predictable mistake of taking the gunplay too far and make the latter half of the game into a typical FPS battlefest where the game forgets it's greatest unique strengths and tries to create the illusion of climax by making you kill an army (Assassins Creed, Crysis sort of).

One of the very few original properties that actually feels (story excluded) original. In my top 5 watch list.

russtophiles

BTW, if you like the song during the video I suggest Mogwai's 'auto rock' track, kinda similiar in feel, particularly the piano melody.

seek83

psychobaka

Nobiai

Agrojagg

1. After you complete the singleplayer, please open up the world so that you can just run around and do cool shit. STALKER required a patch in order to do this. Please don't make the same mistake.

2. Perhaps you might consider a series of multiple rooms where the object is to go from the entranceto the exit, much like PORTAL, with increasing difficulty, but using the Faith parkour mechanic.

Otherwise, your game looks wonderful.

Sullyville

[content.answers.com]

butaneko

What does make this interesting to me is that is what it is...in first person.

SuperMaxZero

Anyways this thread is brimming with stupid. The "not 3rd person = no thanks" people are jackasses. I know from playing plenty of First person games that jumping from platform to platform isn't the perspective's strong point. But I thought it worked great in Metroid Prime. So yeah, I believe such a talented studio whose entire game seems built around traversing an environment in first person will be able to make it work. And from what I'm seeing it looks much more engrossing than an Assassins Creed.

The character design people are even more moronic. I'm not a fan of the under-eye tattoo but everything else is pleasing, believable, and unique. She has a sporty figure, tottally believable breast size (!! in a video game? What?) and isn't in some impractical outfit.

People keep referring to this as a PS3 game. It was just SHOWN on PS3.

EA is the PUBLISHER. DICE is the DEVELOPER. It's worked out great so far. EA has been redeeming them selves in quite a few ways lately from their developer dismantling past.

Oh and I can't believe a few people thought the music was lame. Seriously, broaden your shitty musical tastes please.

skewt

hefferj05

HumanBomb

belo

Witzbold

furiku

Hopefully this won't become another EA failure and who knows Dice might actually release a game that isn't crippled by a million bugs and glitches

MasterDex

suntorytime

Herabec

interficium

1. Dice have a great track record for Multiplayer PVP games, but not for a story-driven single player game
2. The story sounds absolutely dreadful
3. As soon as there was Stranglehold type shooting I lost lots of interest
4. Would love this in 3D with goggles on and head tracking
5. First person jumps and arms - reminds me of that Trespasser Jurassic Park Game, which wasn't exactly a major success

In summary: Nice tech demo - am really doubtful about Dice being able to tell a good storyline that sets this apart from the mass
reminds me of that Jurassic Park 1st person game.

thinlebowski

Yin

Wubbytoes

HarmanSmith

cheeses

amatecha

unmarkedone

wonder how EA will screw this one up.

Termisk8er

ila

Snake726

MaiAriSquee

alecpyron

neo177117

>Anyway, the major problem with first person platforming is it's too easy to misjudge something and fall to one's death<
Counterpoint: The Metroid Prime series.
COunterpoint 2: That video at the top of your screen.

Jonn

hoezee

Here's the link to the Edge article which is pretty informative: [www.next-gen.biz]

interficium

Ping

VixDiesel

Yuki

...

Anyway, the major problem with first person platforming is it's too easy to misjudge something and fall to one's death -- you could fix that by adding a level of auto-aim to the jumps, like in Assassin's Creed. This potentially introduces other problems, such as situations where you're aiming one place and the game thinks you're aiming another, but /that/ can be solved through careful level design.

The downside to that is levels have to be sort of simple, with not a lot of meaningful objects close to each other. I think a really good level designer could make this not a problem, so let's hope DICE has some really good level designers.

On another topic entirely, it felt weird when you're right next to a window and it's not reflecting Faith. I hope that was just to make the "It's a girl!" reveal at the end of the video more of a reveal -- otherwise, not having a reflection will be the new not being able to see your own feet.

Stephenls

Yuki

Jonn

@kagebutsu: You're late; someone made the "EA SUX" comment about five posts in. The one about the ugly lead is new, though.

@RichChap: I agree.

Jonn

Destrado

That is just amazing!1!!11eleven

GummyTumor

Yuki

@L33tminion: I have a feeling that when you jump, she will be attracted to objects that you can jump on or grab, not unlike the system in Assassin's Creed (which, to be fair, sometimes fails).

Yuki

L33tminion

Kris_

can't wait.

PS. I love the main characters design, big boobs and barbies be damned.

kyaku00x

Haha, the game looks awesome.

Kris_

franksvalli

cybereality

WDYC

Fireblast

She's doing all this cool stuff and you can't see it? Who gets paid to make these design decisions?

badasscat

Mega-Driven

requiem

Alex_Mexico

I'm also a fan of the art direction. Very sterile and cold.
And the music fit perfectly. I pretty much heard it in my head when looking at screenshots.

Bluecell

y2kenjination

It's got tons of minimalist style, and hopefully they take good advantage of that keeping the majority of the game low-key as opposed to action-heavy.

I'm definitely excited. I hope they bring the messenger bag from the original character design back though... not that it's too important...

BoboDaHobo

That'd be like adding 3rd person to steel battalion or 1st person to god of war. i.e. completely missing the point.

Flyingdebris

RedRust

SpuddOner

3rd person view would be nice though...as everyone before me has stated.

KuribosShoe

K-Squad! (Badass Edition)

ponyup

TwilightKing

Just make sure you know, everybody, it won't be good. Don't come complain to me when you've lost your money on it.

EmTeeZ

Baby steps people, while the first person isn't 'PERFECT' its damn damn good looking. You want a perfect first person experience, you need to go buy a helmet with almost 200 degrees of viewable area around your head. How do you end up getting something like that? Someone takes a chance and creates something like this first.

Personally, I really like the feel of it. The future (if going by the past is any example) gets cleaner and cleaner, who's to say the future enviorment couldn't end up being squeaky clean? I personally like the idea of it. Yet again, tho its different.

And finally a main character who isn't "OMG HOT!!!111oneone". She's average looking, and personally I dig that. I've played the big tittied heroine, I've played the giant buff guy with super powers. Whats wrong with playing as a semi-normal person? In truth, none of the stuff she's doing is out of reach of someone who has done gymnastics or even martial arts ( a little emblished maybe), so there really is no reason the main character has to be some kind of super hero.

I just find it funny. "That game does nothing new!!!111oneone" vs "That doesn't do things like the rest!111oneone". Screwed if you do, screwed if you don't, I kind feel sorry for developers. :/

Khabi

sadly this great game isn't going to be on the wii T_T

kjcwashere

animemecha

You can't really add that kind of immersion in 3rd, because there's always that seperatation of several feet from your character.

I'm looking forward to this, because i'm tired of the old guncam feel most FP games have. And also addresses the whole "gordon freeman being stopped dead in his tracks by a chest high wall," issue.

Flyingdebris

Josh*

Aethyr

termination_shock

Second, there are guns in the game but killing people literally has no point (other then to kill people) seeing as she's running to a destination with packages and such and guns will slow her down (the interview talked a lot about this). And as to why the city looks pretty baren, it's because this takes place in a very 1984 totalitarian clean of any and all artistic expression type of world. All the buildings are clean white and sterile looking on purpose.

Syndicated Terence

chaos_isnt_here

demonknightinuyasha

swift_tiger

Zombie_Moogle

as a trailer it looks really fun.

swift_tiger

Kiriphii

skullkid

Here's a fun exercise: look at something on the wall. Now turn your head 30 degrees to the side. Did the object turn 30 degrees? No, it still looks like it is oriented up and down. There's something in your brain that ensures that within a reasonable range of rotation what you see is reoriented so that up always faces the same way. Until designers of FPSs figure this out the view is always going to feel disorienting.

Cloral

GwennBlackfeather

EA own DICE.

The game looks great in motion, if a bit "floaty". Looking forward to this one.

kiigan

What would be even sweeter is once you beat the game, there was an option to play it in with a 3rd person view. (^.~)

def PD

Jesus Christ.

Dauragon C. Mikado

salmonax

Sometimes, as with Portal, you just can't convey things with the same sense of immediacy in 3rd person. I'm actually more intrigued by the 1st-person perspective for this game aesthetically. The real challenge is going to be making it fun to play without over-simplifying the commands or being too unforgiving when judging "distance" from enemies/obstacles/etc.

A 3rd person replay feature, similar to Halo, would be an interesting addition, just so I could see the cool things my floating camera's shell is doing. Besides, I kind of like the character design.

Iron_Cricket

dead_red_eyes

dawimp523

DevCo

Phenom88

Looks like it could be very good, and at least initially appears to be my kind of game even if it is mediocre.

crapsh00t

1st person body awareness is the whole point of the game. Yes anybody can make a 3rd person game that has all sorts of acrobatics, thats not hard to do. In fact its been done to death. However the 1st person genre has sorely lacked a game that actually makes the player feel like something other than a guncam. Yeah sometimes they add a pair of feet under you, but you still don't really feel or move like a body. M.E. is trying to tie the camera to a simulated body to bring that sense of immersion home.

I am really looking forward to this for that very reason, as it really brings another level of immersion to the the stagnating FP genre.

Besides, i don't know about some of you, but 3rd person is a total immersion killer for me. Unless i'm somehow having an out of body experience, my POV is not several feet behind me, its in my eyes. I want to feel like the character, not see the character,

Flyingdebris

The swing of the legs up, the roll (a bit off, if you rolled along your spine like that you'd probably break it), it's all good. I might actually buy a PS3 for this.

Phiedny

okenny :)

My personal conspiracy theory is that Burnout Paradise came out around the time EA was getting a lot of flack for not making good PS3 games. It's unfortunate but it is what it is :) Chances are I'm wrong on this one but I thought it was funny.

okenny :)

Stevedroid

- Bland character: Is she any blander than Chell from Portal? Gimme a break.

- First-person: The whole first person thing is what the game is all about. Playing this in the third person would be like playing Oblivion in the third person. Weird, and stupid.

- Story: Yeah, the story would be waaaaay better if it had aliens versus space marines. Shove it up your asses, the story is fine. Not all games have to wow us with their storytelling. Specially if they're like this, concentrated on action and freedom more.

Ashurahori

Well, when you put it that way, how can anyone argue? That's rock solid fact right there -- not opinionated in any way at all.

Guess I'll be playing Gears of War because I clearly have to think that's a perfect game.

Arttemis

Okari

The only thing about that description that actually sounds cookie-cutter is "corrupt government". The rest of it sounds relatively unique.

Babylonian

Babylonian

I really liked the music to this - who composed it, is it the ingame music too? - and the camera movement! I wish more games had naturalistic-moving cameras like this, as disorienting and dizzy as it might get at high velocities.

Seeing the birds fly away and a glimpse at what's down below adds to the grandeur of it all, and I don't mean that in a delusional way!

Torley

I love the direction of this game, it's fantastic. I say, no 3rd person option whatsoever. Sure it's more difficult, but impairing the player done right creates excitment. Like Steel Battalion. Games are so easy to play these days... It's a bit boring.

Also, I enjoyed FEAR and Dark Messiah, both games that dabble in this type of movements in fps somewhat.

And about motion sickness. I'm sorry you can't play this, but would you deny the rest of us this pleasure because of that? I know I won't be sick, and I want this. My mom gets sick just watching someone playing an fps, but I've never ever felt that. Still I get boat and train-sick. Um, I forgot where I was going with this.

To sum it up: I love this game! :0

Yin

MobileMilitia

cyberdemon23

photoboy

*cough*

Kung

pasquinelli

Beautiful though.

mizzle

The music was great too. Overall this looks like a fantastic experience but I agree with those who have issues with first-person view. First-person and platforming has always been a dismal failure in my view (and I'm talking about even the platforming elements of the otherwise excellent Metroid Prime games, for instance). On the plus side, it looks like this game is probably more about fluid movement and keeping going than literally trying to judge the exact moment for a jump, so maybe it'll be okay on that score.

quen

But for some reason I was under the impression that Valve was developing this.... weird.

Elite Wombat

Bicro

Samos42

Karlott

If you can make something this beautiful using the simplest of textures then thats skill above just slaving away at the individual texture .
Seeing the bigger picture of how everything works together is where the art is.

coop510

Ajh

solacecomes

Ajh

And it's EA. No doubt, they make fun games for the most part. But I usually find myself getting bored of them after a few days of playing. But hey, let's let time be the judge...

DONNYchiban

nikolaj

In most games that give the option I play in third. This is usually because a floating disembodied camera doesn't give much feedback. In racing games I don't know where my car is relative to the camera and I crash into things. In Tourist Trophy (bike Turismo) without seeing the rider's body I don't know what position he's in, so I fall off the bike.

On the other hand, now that I have GT5 Prologue, I play a lot in first person because I can actually see the inside of the car as if I were driving. (Though if I'm in a hard race I go to third again because then I can see who is beside me.)

So this game could be different if you can always see your body. No traditional fps "I'm a hovering camera and I have to walk a tightrope with invisible legs" issues.

But with that said, if there's a third person option, and first person doesn't let you quick look U/D/L/R manually, I'd go to third person because it's just not realistic unless your character wears a neck brace the whole time.

fuchikoma

Some of the games considered best ever are non-linear. So what if they constrict you to the developer's path. If they do it well (as is quite possible, believe it or not) who cares?

This whole 'OMG MUST BE NON-LINEAR OR IT WILL FAIL' attitude disgusts me.

RaptorShadow

Nexus6

- Notice how the world itself is quite sterile. Very little in the way of clutter on the rooftops, scratch marks on the buildings, etc.
- The main attraction are the buildings, but I'm a little disappointed in the simplistic blockiness some of them exhibit - see where she makes a jump, looks down, and sees a completely flat row of windows.
- Objects in the world are quite distinct: a good sign of an actual game world, which has characters interacting with individual objects as opposed to CG where the artist can blend the character into the environment.
- Pretty simple textures, although I'm guessing it's a stylistic choice.
- Also fairly simple lighting, especially after what we've seen of games like Killzone and Bioshock.
- Pre-canned animations: another dead giveaway, your character can only interact with other characters at certain angles and distances, and it's hard to get right; Uncharted was so smooth because they were very lenient with the angles/distances and recorded a ton of animations for different situations.
- Lack of characters/physics, at least in the trailer, means you only have to worry about rendering the environment.

It's not just about the pretty reflections, people.

Datheron

Ungruntled

acidn

3rd person seems like it would make for a much more interesting parkour title.

KungFengShui

...I just want to see more than just looks, though. Better have some actual story and gameplay to it, too.

Xeneizes

zyberteq

Sinnix

themunk

Rayk2099

Also, to the people hating on the game for the character's appearance. WHAT THE FUCK? Since when does a female protagonist have to be a perfectly proportioned symbol of beauty? I thought we were trying to prove that the gaming world isn't just made up of shallow, hormone-driven teen boys. Then again, this -is- gaming, so should I have expected better?

RaptorShadow

last time i checked, developers made games and publishers published them. not the other way around.

designer0

Y2Jason

sir_carrot

Okari

TheDaREaL

mind in rewind

I'm not 100% sure, but i think the song is called Spiral Story - Spiral Story, not sure if it is a Remix or the Original Mix because the remixes i have are not as chillout as in the trailer (Unless they have reduced the BPM). If its not that track, then they have definately taken inspiration from it...

henke7

CrucifiedChaos

Nosignalinput

Nosignalinput

LeChuck

I too drive in 1st person whenever they will let me.........including in Outrun 2, which means that while you're drifting, you're basically staring at a guard rail the whole time.

Billkwando

ZhouYu

Unless the people who are motion sickness avoid such strenuous activity because they get motion sick? >_>

Xagest

This game looks to be teh future of FPS games.

SaanZ

The breathing didn't bother me strangely. I think it's intended to make it more immersive.

Looks like it could potentially be great, like Tony Hawk+Guns-Skateboard=Awesome.

Billkwando

Parkour is the art of moving through your environment using only your body and the surroundings to propel yourself. It can include running, jumping, climbing, even crawling, if that is the most suitable movement for the situation.

satsantokh

I love games like Spiderman and Crackdown where you can just zip around the city from obstacle to obstacle. I really hope this game isn't going to be linear.

argh

Paladin58

Strangelove

Loreo

Uzumaki_Kiba

lynxij

DarkCode

yeah...

that's what I thought.

Torokun

For those of you who don't know much about the game, it's set in a world much like equalibrium and faith is a rebel messenger. It's your job to get from point a to point b any way you see fit avoiding the police and agents out to stop you. For those who expressed concern about the guns in the footage, Faith can only use a gun when its pulled off of someone else. By default you fight with your fists

redpikmin

DefDealer

[www.peterholderness.com]

Mega-Driven

Okari

Actually, judging from what a reporter of the Swede mag LEVEL says, that's what it looks like.

He also said that it reminded him of Max Payne, Portal and Prince of Persia, which I for one doesn't dislike the idea of.

One misconception I think that a lot of people have is that this will be a free-roaming game; it's not. But it still allows for improvisation, and a nice balance would probably suit it.

He also noted further that the guy playing in this trailer knows the level very, very, very well.

Regarding the graphics, I don't see that's not possible to make? We've seen PC games that are better looking, and by the looks of it they're using pre-compiled lightmaps, which would kind of explain the very nice ambient lightning in the vid.

Just sayin'.

Melonfodder

ChrisLionheart

In essence, this game looks like a rail-FPS.

Fyren

I don't think my analogy is poor, you may have heard that Jackson sued New Line for payment issues. They did pressure him quite a bit about time and budget during the production, and anyway you're missing the point I was trying to make, which is merely that many people seem to think that EA is CREATING Mirror's Edge. Do you really think that it's worth arguing against that point??!

gaijira

DigiMish

Also, the sliding makes me think of old school Mega Man.

Tubatic

KirbyMorph

Think of any time you have to jump on anything in HL2.

El_Timba

Kayeliminal Antithesis

WarlockSoL

What makes the game sexy is the production and the perspective of the gamer.

Fyren

1. Some people want 3rd person? No way. It is much better this way. (I'm the guy who drives in 1st person in GTA IV, and wishes there was a "closer" view on foot) Here's hoping, so everyone is happy, that there will be both 1st and 3rd person views available, but I wouldn't necessarily bet on it.

2. The main character is "ugly"? Come on! She looks like an ACTUAL WOMAN. I love it. I am totally sick of the ridiculous barbie dolls in most games, they embarrass me when I try to show a game to a non-gamer.

3. The city is too sterile? No way! Nope, not to me. Finally, a dystopian future that isn't all burnt-out, brown and decayed; instead is a scrubbed-clean police state. I love the fresh, bleached look. Blue! Red! Yellow! White! I may actually be able to easily navigate this game world, and not have to strain my eyes to see one slighter darker brown pixel amongst a sea of other lighter brown pixels. Look at it this way: YOU are the dirt in this game, the humanity.

4. Cookie cutter plot? Are you serious? You want more aliens destroying the world for no explicable reason? It is at least as good as anything else out there, and in my opinion, reads great, is very promising. It has this great "of this time" vibe to it. I love that I can play a subversive character, who is very "physical" and human instead of being some hyper-ass cyborg with chainguns for arms. Cheers for "lo-tech"

5. Pre-rendered? Check your eyes. Do you play modern games? There is nothing about this that would make me think it is pre-rendered. It all looks like very plausible gameplay.

6. Looks like "standard" platforming fare so far? Even if, mechanically, it is, I dont necessarily have any problem with that. It is the style, presentation, art direction et. al. that make this stand out. BTW, I like "breathing" sounds in games. Very immersive.

I am disappointed so many people see this and just shrug. I guess it is like me shrugging off gears of war.

Mega-Driven

Kayeliminal Antithesis

PsykoJ

With that said, I still think it's ridiculous that there's so much criticism over the girl's design. She looks pretty attractive to me.

Arttemis

KidoftheThird

Haven't game developers learned? For heavy, intricate platforming games, Third Person is the best for a REASON! STOP trying to make every freakin' genre first-person friendly! Not everyone LIKES this perspective- and more importantly it ISN'T ALWAYS THE BEST PERSPECTIVE TO CHOOSE.

I sincerely hope that it comes with a thrid-person option, but I doubt it will. Which means I will sadly have to cross another game that used to have potential off my list.

MarsLove

Utrulig

Anyways, your analogy is very poor. Since when does New Line have a reputation for producing bad movies? If New Line had cut Peter Jackson's budget, or pushed him to finish too early, or forced him to cut scenes, etc, yes, it could have turned out not-so-great.

WarlockSoL