Phaelog

zircher

Rozelle’s Bagman

Simple things like inventory screens mean a lot as well. The whole sense of scarcity that was critical - in the thinking of anyone I've talked to about the game - SS2's success was absent. Every gunshot required a cost/benefit analysis. There was also a little more layering to the plot, and more threads to follow.

Now, I don't really mind, at least as much as a lot of people do. I mean, to some degree, these are the same things that prevented SS2 from being a commercial success as well as a critical one. But it's equally unquestionable that if X-Com happened, a lot would come out of it.

Slatz_Grobnik

I love X-Com. A re-release would make my year, and I could die a happy man. However, we all have to admit: the tactical gameplay kind of sucked, especially when viewed in hind-sight.

Do you know what would be perfect? Combining the first X-Com's impeccable strategic layer with the depth of the Jagged Alliance 2 tactical combat engine. Now that is a game that I could happily play for the rest of my life. I would need no other forms of entertainment.

Barring this development (doubtful) or a decent X-Com remake (slightly less doubtful), I will happily take a new Jagged Alliance-style game (slightly more likely). Someone make this happen.

JustThisGuy

Rammstein

Has the originals been ported to the psp(or DS for that matter)?

I have found that I enjoy a lot of oldergames in a portable format, that I probable wouldn't bother with trying on my PC.

Ehardergardens

Ehardergardens

And somehow I don't think there could be a sequel that could hold up - time has turned those games into nostalgia, and a sequel wouldn't have to be as good or better than the originals, it would have to be as good or better than our memories of the originals, which is an impossibly high bar.

I personally would rather the name not be touched. Then the XCom games will always be the sort of thing you bring up with old friends and everyone has fond memories of a truly unique experience.

Sort of like the original Star Wars movies - to some extent the modern prequels have greatly degraded the value of those movies in my memory (and many others I have talked to.) Given the choice of not having the new movies made and Star Wars never getting another movie, I would take that over the current situation.

All good things come to an end, and attempting to prolong them will only turn them to bad things, and taint the memories of the good.

The_Inquisitor

Nothing is as satisfying as getting the "Ultimate Craft" and being able to finally chase down every UFO on the screen and shoot them down into the ocean. Or the blaster bomb, one of the more ingenious weapons.

\Please oh please let this be true

phimuskapsi

I love the original X-Com, I've played that game more than any other. I've played it from start to finish well over 50 dozen times. I played the online PVP fan-adaptation to death, I bought UFO:ET for its shinier 3D ripoff to feed nostalgia. I visit [ufo.yaa.dk] month after month hoping that this fan-remake will be done. Oh 2k better not screw up X-Com or I will forever blacklist them and anything they are involved in.

AngelsPlague

artofwar420

X-Com was f**king great. Never got a chance to play the sequels, mostly because friends told me they sucked. But I totally support any and all efforts to continue the series.

Highlander Wolf

dont suck.

Derigor

Kounji

Me and a bunch of friends would convene everyday after school to play this together back on the PSone.

Each of us would make our own guy and play using only their guy. Good times. =)

def PD

FPS with RPG elements in a squad setting and one level before the end you'll be presented with a surprise twist: Shodan is controlling the supply of Elerium-115 and Artifacts all over the universe trying to wipe out the human race, the player will be presented with a choice... join Shodan or save the Human Race.

Ugh... I love 2K, I do, but they need to break away from their formulas.

zoesch

Saint Anima

SwimOdin

Levine and co's experience with Freedom Fighters gives me confidence. Although it wasn't turn-based, it was still fun, and I could see that translating well to the X-Com universe.

stevesan

Hasbro basically set things up to totally expand the franchise, including what sounded like an extremely compelling sequel, but it all fell apart shortly after Interceptor. Worse: they had the gall to release Enforcer as the last X-Com title and expect fans to be happy. Kind of like the Fallout series, but at least twice as heartbreaking.

Again, like the Fallout series, there's a huge worry that a sequel by anyone but the original designers would be lacking--because the original designers are still active game designers (without a whole lot of respect in the industry, for some strange reason). Just like it must be a kick in the face to Obsidian that Bethesda gets to make Fallout 3 because they have more money, I'm sure it'd be a kick in the face to CoDo (the Gollop brothers' company) that 2K gets to make X-Com 4 (or 3 or 5 depending on your count) because they have more money.

Google "X-Com Genesis" and "Dreamland Chronicles: Freedom Ridge" for the most heart-breaking moments in the franchise history.

Rohsiph

Still, the prospect of a full-blown sequel (ignoring that enforcer bad apple) to the originals sounds mighty tasty.

Grive

But as we have seen time and time again, this game CANNOT be remade. Many, many people have tried. And even if someone were able to make an enjoyable game out of it, it still wouldn't be X-Com.

I stopped at Terror from the Deep - that game was 100x harder than the original if I recall, and just not as much fun. After that, Microprose did Apocalypse I think, and it all went downhill from there.

I'd love to see a STRAIGHT remake of X-Com, with same gameplay and better graphics (and more variety of land).

Spoony Bard

Slatz_Grobnik

gtabacchi

Turn-based will turn off about 2/3 or more of the gaming market.

Real-time will destroy credibility with the long-time fans.

No win situation.

Caduceus

Gray665

Oh, and that picture? Hi-larious!

Absent Blue

EvilJerk

mkernan

Mister Adequate

...

Okay, that's it - I don't want to be a hardcore gamer anymore.

dreamshade

In my opinion that game fails to capture the same feeling x-com has. Just my opinion though.

sluissa

Maluvin

Or heck, I'll take a hacked up Wii virtual console port of the Dos version . . .

Tubatic

THE BLASTER: The Most Lethal Weapon Known To Man.

Jazhuis

I hope not, though. I don't want to be forced to buy a PSP. Because I would be. :(

(Seriously people! Just port the originals to the DS just as they are!)

Jazhuis

Kojima working on a new ZoE would make me salivate about as much as the mere POSSIBILITY of a new and true X-Com game.

Turn based strategy or GTFO.

Tubatic

[www.ufo-extraterrestrials.com]

It's basicly a clone (up to almost the same tech tree) of the game we love. Check it out.

dullin

Add new aliens, new weapons, that's fine. But don't mess with the core game mechanics. Keep it turn-based, keep it grid-based, keep the destructable environments, keep the base building. Keep the really nifty globe that you could spin around.

As for the PC elitists, don't listen to them. Far more complex game UIs have been put upon the console, and effectively.

Heck, I'd even pay good MS points for a XBLA HD update to the games...

BigWeather

Tei

jayntampa

Grumpz®

But for the love of everything good, don't use any of the newer clones as a baseline. Forget they even exist. They're not worth anything to anyone! I felt sorry for even downloading the damn things, they were so bad!

SilverStar95

Atheist Jew

I still play the original X-COM/UFO. It does have numerous flaws, which if released today, without any prior exposure to the game I and many others would probably find too grating to deal with. The interface is clunky, there were bugs in every version released, and most people(not me) would find the graphics ugly.

Every sequel, and spiritual successor to X-COM/TFTD has failed as far as I'm concerned. Most of us got used to the clunky interface only because it was a good game despite it. And because we're used to it now, we still play it despite many of us not having the patience for it in modern games. I could never get past the interface in Apocalypse or really, any of the spiritual successors to be able to enjoy them as much as x-com.

The bugs, oh the bugs. I know there were buggier games released, but still X-COM/TFTD had some doozies that were never really fixed. I honestly don't remember much from MS-DOS x-com. I did play it, but I was much younger and I lost those disks and bought the collectors edition when I was older. It was only at this point that I could appreciate the bugs. The Collectors edition remake, made for windows, years after the original release actually introduces NEW, different bugs one of which makes basically useless one of the most useful weapons in the game, the proximity grenade. TFTD wasn't immune either, it had at least one game killing research tree bug. If you reasearched something wrong, there was no way to advance to win the game without cheating.

The graphics are ugly to most people. I still like them though. Of course I play ascii based rogue-likes, so that's just me. I wouldn't mind an update in graphics as long as it doesn't hurt gameplay. One thing I've hated about the newer games is that with 3d, you basically have to rotate the camera or else you might miss something. In the original x-com you really had little need to rotate the camera and in fact, they didn't let you.

A couple of last comments. It MUST remain turn based in order to be a good x-com game. Real time is fine, give us the option if you want, but do a good job on turn based. I think that killed apocalypse. They offered a decent real time option and a crappy turn based option so that you basically had to use the real time game just to play a decent game.

To all the people who hope they don't dumb it down for consoles. Remember, X-COM was released for the Playstation in basically the same form as for the PC. (Well, they added cutscenes to replace the still slideshows of the pc.) If they do it right, there's no reason to dumb it down.

I really would like a sequel to X-Com I could enjoy, but I doubt it will happen. People have tried but there's just something in nostalgia you can't emulate. At this point, I think only a re release of the original, with bug fixes(and no additional bugs), could make me happy.

sluissa

Sunjammer

futurebiblehero

Meanwhile, fans of dumbed-down console versions of the X-Com games might want to check out Rebelstar: Tactical Command on the GBA, which had Julian Gollop as the designer and Nick Gollop as the lead programmer.

tossrStu

Acid Raven

While I feel that Bioshock was seriously flawed due to its dumbing-down, it was still a fantastic game. Not on the level of SS2, but then what is? If they are working on a new X-Com, and they do dumb it down (how can they not?), I'm sure they'll still be able to deliver a great game. It just won't be as great as the original, of course, which is a shame. I think if they were developing the game only for the PC they could keep the complexity of the original in there, but to be a success in today's console-centric industry, "complexity" doesn't help sales.

Atheist Jew

Salen

Shiryu

MelodyKitn

zebber

Foxstar Sixtail

FlashIV

Bioshock was horribly dumbed down for consoles. They had the mechanics of System Shock 2, arguably one of the best games ever made in the history of this industry, and the stripped out all of the fucking excellent RPG mechanics and made the "spiritual sequel" a standard (if beautifully executed) FPS game.

Atheist Jew

Lets pretend X-COM Interceptor doesn't exist when we consider that last statement, yes?

Atheist Jew

SenorKaffee

Shiryu

It`ll be RTS, and it will be good.

Dasyatis

Cameroo

I´m not sure anyone noticed, but I always thought that the first two XCOM games had great pathfinding strategies. My troops somehow managed to always find their way around the map, even in half-destroyed spaceships. I can´t think of one Y U WASTIN MY MUVMINT POINTZ moment in both games.

Let´s think, what do those games really need to work today? For me they just need better balancing (TFTD was pretty hard), some physics (floating treetops and roofs may look strange nowadays) and maybe some kind of campaign with more story milestones.

But no realtime, please. o__O

SenorKaffee

Garo

darksteel1989

Mavwick

Dimipapa

Please let this be a turn based strategy game.

Mr Levine, don't let us down on this one!

Prodigy_BE

I remember how pissed I get when one of my experienced soldiers bit the dust. The new recruits were terrible!

Snuffbox

*joins Witzbold in the anti-suck chant*

ImmortalZ

Witzbold

Witzbold

Snukadaman_

I don't know how many hours/days/weeks of my life I wasted on X-Com 2, but I want to do it again!

PissedPS3Fan

Also there was something about the Apoc graphics which I didn't like when compared to the previous games (despite the obviously higher resolution and what not). Maybe I just liked the comic/cartony (?) style of the original two games.~

But I digress -- I just hope they make a proper near-remake of the original games (or at least an RTS or turn-based) and not some crappy FPS/Flight Sim spin-offs like some companies did to milk the franchise back in the day which ended up killing the series.

Sneakiest

Waka in Japan

Sure, I have to disable DirectDraw to play it, but its worth it!

Snuffbox

Blinded220

Hades

XivGNP

Kojima has been hiding the clues in the new trailers. If you listen carefully you can hear them say the letters of Ken Levine's name while they speak.

Black-Dog-Howls

28121986

ethic

Cutedge