<![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> the sixaxis failed because the motion control works only for driving stuffs. It can't really swing like a Wii game.

mcool93

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @okenny :): Wrong. The Wii's ratio is over 6 globally. It's 5.3 in the US alone:
[gamer.blorge.com]

Oops.

megaStryke

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> i still want a motion controller for gears...

xoforoct

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @dirkxxdiggler:If that was the case, then the GameCube would have whipped the PS2's ass.

learn2doyurhomework.

Foxstar Sixtail

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> God, you can't even mention the Wii these days without the "hardcore" gamers wagging their penises at their keyboards and cockslapping out some random dumbass comments.

Roto13

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> If Microsoft is copying Nintendo with their own wiimote, whatever silly explanation that you have about how xbox360 is better and the Wiimote is a gimmick is irrelevant, even Bill Gates recognizes the Wii is better by copying it.

VakeroRokero

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @Foxstar Sixtail: innovation is a very very small part of it. 1st and foremost is price, 2nd is there target market is the commoner not the enthusiast. Get it right.

dirkxxdiggler

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> The wii mote is uncomfortable. The 360 mote should be:
-slightly larger than the nun-chuck
-look like the a morph between the nun-chuck and half of a controller
-get rid of the d-pad and put a joystick it it's place
-arrange the buttons in the normal diamond/sideways square shape.
-The home button should be somewhere that you can press, but is not easily pressed.
-I'd leave it at one trigger, but 2 triggers could be done if they put as much R&D into it as they put into the 360.
-If they're going to have a IR sensor set up it should be higher than the trigger(s).

The downside to this is you have to make a left and right handed version of it.

jjpember

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> Microsoft does nothing but to get other geniuses' ideas, X-mote, wiimote, IE7.0, Firefox, theyre like, Edison or something

Mactheridon

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @tex1ntux: How do you know all of Nintendo's major 1st party titles are released, we've still to see some franchises make an appearance, F-Zero? Kirby? Maybe even Kid Icarus? and another thing, does the 360 really have appeal to "family fun"? No, whenever someone thinks 360 they think butch manly marine types killing things

cameleon

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> The Xmote will die out after 2 weeks. Just calling it now.

Dee4leeds

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @D Mitsuki: Don't get the panites to bunched up yet, it's not going to do well.

Pornosaur

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @Foxstar Sixtail: The Wii is nowhere near the 360 in terms of attach rate... talking about 7-to-1 versus 3.4-to-1. I'm not sure what your basing your figures on.

okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> Nintendo shouldn't be worried, the Dual Shock 3 pretty much has all of the same feature of their controller besides a little speaker. It will always be PS3 vs. X360 with Wii in it's own camp this console round, which seems to be working out great for Nintendo.

DeeBG

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @SlamDancinMoogle: (kinda late on this reply) You got a bad image of hardcore market if you think what the xbox giving is hardcore, a hardcore gamer is a gamer who knows alot about games, plays alot of diffrent genre's, and basicly lives and breaths games, so how is xbox catering to people like this? If i told you every xbox game i played up utnil now, it would probally involve a gun, and because my favorite game type is rpg, dont even run the bull that the xbox is giving me a good selection of those, sure you could name a few, but then, those few that you name will be all i have to choose from

D Mitsuki

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> price drop is the only threat against the Wii.

Xcite79

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @SlamDancinMoogle: "If every gaming console becomes pussified by the idiots who don't want to learn how to play a game, then I'll just cut my wrists on the day it happens."

No, you won't. If you would seriously do that, you need to find another hobby because gaming is not that essential to any standard of living.

"Yes Nintendo gets sales because it's innovative... but you know what? Find me one old nintendo fan that is as enthusiastic about them as when the SNES was king. You WON'T find it."

Umm... yeah, right here buddy. And you can find many around these parts as well.

megaStryke

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Discuss everything from Politics to Anime to Gaming.

ericds33

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> The thing to remember is that with an XBOX Wii-mote still controller all of the big block buster titles that do make big bucks for the Wii could do just as good if not better on the 360 with not only enhanced HD graphics but with more processing power as well..so better AI, physics and the such.

JorgieX

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> All I'm saying is that is Microsoft can put out a motion solution with better tech than the Wiimote (which shouldn't be hard, considering it's the same technology that was in SAMBA DE AMIGO back in like, 2001) and then couple that with a Wii Sports type game that is slightly more in-depth, I'd be pretty happy.

akashhhhh

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> And interesting article, but I think personally that Microsoft don't even need to release a so-called 'Xmote'.

They are doing pretty well this generation as is and I doubt the number increase this peripheral would bring would be enough to warrant its relaease for the 360.

Kiriphii

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @Malvolio the Magician: No =] No offense, and I hope I don't get flamed for this... but No. Please No. And HELL no. If every gaming console becomes pussified by the idiots who don't want to learn how to play a game, then I'll just cut my wrists on the day it happens. Yes Nintendo gets sales because it's innovative... but you know what? Find me one old nintendo fan that is as enthusiastic about them as when the SNES was king. You WON'T find it. The N64 sucked by most accounts, the PSX dominated the market. The Gamecube... well we'll leave it alone... it makes enough fun of itself. The Wii? Biggest disappointment this side of the nineteenth amendment. (I kid.)

In any case... Microsoft has said they intend to continue producing for the core gamer... I hope it stays that way. If someone doesn't want to enjoy the art of escapism... no one's forcing games on them... but do NOT say Microsoft needs to become what Nintendo has.

Bah. /endrant

SlamDancinMoogle

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> lol all microsoft has to do is make some generic sports games and a fake exercise game and they will do as well as the wii.

deathtastic

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @Sailorcancer: @Pata-pwn(TM?):
I think you're both mis-interpreting the comments here. Remember Sony hadn't unveiled their controller before Nintendo presented the Wii-mote. Rumors swirled that Sony had an emergency "Oh Crap!" meeting and rushed to modify their controller. You do remember the PS3 "Boomerang" and the lukewarm reception it got, right?

Then both Sony and MS just laughed off the Wiimote, knowing internally that it could be a threat. Over a year later after release, that threat has been realized, and MS is trying to mitigate some of it. The comments here are "meh" because what could MS possibly gain for even floating the idea of an a Xmote. What possible advantage could it give them. Any gamer or "non-gamer" that was interested in such functionality has already bought a Wii.

This isn't going alter the X-Box's fratboy and "hardcore" demo at all. Which is why Nintendo basically just patting MS on the head and saying "Isn't that cute" and moving on with their lives.

StrikerGold

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @FatalisticDread:

I think the problem is that although the newton controller will give an option of motion-controlled games to those who ALREADY own the 360, it doesn't really seem too appealing for the consumers buying the Wii for motion-sensitive controls.

For 1, Wii games have motion-sensitivity standardized and the 360 does not. Even if they get a bunch of games ported over they still won't have as many and will be missing some of the big selling points of the Wii: First-party titles, Wii Sports, Wii Fit, etc.

Secondly, more add-ons = more $$. The 360 cannot match the Wii in terms of price. And that is one of the biggest selling points of the Wii.

But I agree with you. For the 360 owners out there who don't find the Wii too appealing and are still interested in motion-sensitive controls, this will probably prove to be a nice addition.

I always saw this as a move for MS to gain more of the casual consumers, but for the reasons I've stated above it's just not gonna happen. Not to mention the fact that Wii public image>>>>>>360 public image.

@tex1ntux: For reasons why you don't know what you're talking about see above.

NeoAkira

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> MS is doing well, so wether this innovation kicks off or not will be irrelevant, and that is the damn truth.

And guys, you know Iwata is somewhere charging up his red eyes, to shoot optic blasts! no one can touch Iwata!
[kotaku.com]

someone please get Cyclops on speed dial and get Iwata some Ruby Quartz Visors!

zanzibarlegend

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @tex1ntux: The 360 could wind up matching the Wii point to point and it still won't beat it. Why? It's not named the "Wii". Simple as that.

megaStryke

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @Malvolio the Magician: Ha I Have Nothing witty to say to that. I Guess you COULD claim that all we do is play Rpg's but since 360 has more than us only god can classify us now:)

Barf#1

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> I would love a web browser on my 360.

sh0v0r

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> The point of this isn't so Microsoft can focus on Wii-type games, it is to make every 3rd party Wii game be ported to the 360 with better graphics. With all of Nintendo's major 1st party titles for this gen released, a blow like this could put them out of the game.

tex1ntux

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> Quick observation in a thread no one is reading anymore: MS's entry into the "I want some o' that!" started with the Xbox. To think that they have been leading the charge/change/innovation in any way at any point is sort of ridiculous.

Now, having said that, I own over 50 360 games and own all three systems with a couple of games for the Wii and PS3. If you put an Xmote into my hand...the Wii may get another couple of inches of dust on it before going into a box with the NES/SNES/N64/PS1. So far, the 360 has given me countless (I did try...) hours of entertainment and streams my music and videos, upscales my DVDs, plays my HD-DVDs, and is on more than my cable box, Wii, and PS3 put together.

All three systems have their high points and their selling points. For me, the 360 wins over the others. My mom wouldn't feel the same way...but she doesn't own any of the consoles. Stick a "360 Sports" into a bundle with two Xmotes for $60-$80 and you've essentially replaced the Wii for those of us with one and given an option for those that want and cannot find one.

FatalisticDread

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @dirkxxdiggler: The Wii is right behind the 360 for attachment rate and the way it's going, it's going to past the 360 in the next six months or so. @dirkxxdiggler:It's innovation and price. Get it right.

Foxstar Sixtail

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> This motion sensing controller is not a threat. The library of games that will use this controller? Not having to wait forever and a day for a few sequels that milk the same old franchises? Most definitely a threat.

PlaidNinja

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> I don't see the point in this new controller at all. MS are not going to steal the hardcore market from potential PS3 buyers with this, and they can't seriously think they're going to attract the casual market away from the Wii. It's a waste of time, will have no effect and like the sixaxis I doubt many developers will even use it all (except the sixaxis doubles as a standard controller, a Wii-style remote doesn't so it's even more limited).

lordofsword

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @dirkxxdiggler:
The GameCube's only $200, while the PS2 and Xbox are $300! It'll surely win the console race!

@Sailorcancer:
What're you talking about? Have you been reading the comments? People have been mocking this, with likening it to the Zune being a knockoff of iPod (which is silly, since they both are part of a larger market of personal media players; the iPod just happens to be the best-selling brand) or other knock-offs like "X-Fit."

BPMΣ

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> Now THAT controller comes with a joystick!

CoatedTrout

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> It's not a threat unless they come up with 360 sports, but that would be just plain low. And with that, I would lose all of my respect for Miocrosoft.

KM91

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> "What matters to us is whether or not we can continue to constantly create and offer new surprises one after another."

better get started on that huh buddy

syrantking

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> What the fucking hell? Sony unveils the sixaxis and everybody screams like a 9 year old that the copied Nintendo, just becuase the PS3 controller had motion sensing. Now Microsoft is rumoured to be making an exact carbon copy of the wiimote, not even just adding motion sensing to their current controller and I see comments like " that's cool of MS " and " gotta give them props for trying ". Some people just piss me off so much.

Pata-pwn(TM?)

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @BlackDove: No, they're not. If you haven't noticed "trying" isn't their business model. It's having someone else do the work for you. :D

LionheartAce

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> I'm amazed at how no one is going around bashing MS for making a Wiimote clone. Yet when SIXAXIS came out, everyone was like OMG SONYS COPYING NINTENDO RAWR RAWR. But MS does it and it's like meh it's sweet =D

Sailorcancer

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @dirkxxdiggler: the wii has a good attachment rate, except for in japan i think it was which drags down other countries

D Mitsuki

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @BPMΔ: Actually, the Wii's attach rate is larger than the PS3's:

[gamer.blorge.com]

And that's just in the US. Globally, I know the Wii's rate is over six and is still larger than the PS3's.

megaStryke

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> Oh, and maybe the reason the Wii's attachment rate is so low is because the "casual" gamers don't actually buy video games because...well, they're casual gamers and they have other things to do like go outside.

dirkxxdiggler

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> No one is saying that you have to buy the motion-control remote. If you don't want it, don't buy it. The 360 has been all about choice, and MS is offering more choices. I love both the six-axis and the Wiimote when they are properly integrated into a game. Motorstorm is a blast to play usingthe motion-sensing controls, as was Excite truck and RE:4 on the Wii. Nintendo struck a gold mine by introducing motion-sensing to consoles, and casual gamers flocked to it in droves, primarily because of Wii sports. Had MS had any foresight at all, they could have blown the Wii out of the water with remote-sensing from the start, with their far superior graphics, support from 3rd-party developers, XBox-Live, etc. They didn't, and now they are paying for it. Wii's are in retirement homes, hospitals, theraputic centers, exercise rooms, etc., where nary a 360 is to be found.

bornonce

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> For shame Nintendo...you're not beating others to the punch because of your "innovation" you're beating them because your system is the cheapest option of the three.

dirkxxdiggler

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @okenny :): the xbox if it gets a bigger gamer audiance can increase sells as well as keep a high attach rate, it gots the potential just not the games

D Mitsuki

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @justhesh:
Right, they're ill-informed, because it's completely illogical to have fun with the Wii. :|

BPMΣ

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> The remote is not the key to the Wii's share of the market. It's cheap and the average person is ill informed.

justhesh

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @Sinnbox:
Isn't Wii's attach rate the same as PS3's?

BPMΣ

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> Personally I wouldn't really want something like this. I love the Xbox 360 pad and regard it as the most comfortable game pads I've ever used. I've tried the Wii before and the waggle mechanics are just not quite for me. Still, it's good to see Microsoft trying to bring potential customers in that may not have otherwise bought a console.

lestat730

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @D Mitsuki: Well if the number goes too high then it's a bad thing but if the number's begin to dip then it's also seen as good thing, especially when they are really high. Both statement's are true: A high attach rate shows healthy sales while a dipping attach rate shows platform growth.

okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @KaneRobot:I'm waiting for you to make one insightful useful post. Will the next gen of consoles be out before it happens?
What is wrong with you, I wonder? Thanks for resurfacing, I had forgotten about you last Monday, now i'll have a fresh memory for weeks.

As for Iwata, he's right. You can't half-ass focus on the causal gamers and reap many rewards from it. While Microsoft will likely nab some people, they won't come close to matching the Wii. Look for all of the big 3 to make huge efforts to nab, keep and convert causal gamers as the years go by.

Foxstar Sixtail

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @UltimatePancakeSensation: The MS Freestyle Pro in 1998 was not all that bad, so I think the MS team can improve upon what the Freestyle was, and make something that I would buy for my wife and kids. MS wants to be in the center of the living room, well GTA gets me kicked out of the living room.

I like the idea, and I think Nintendo thinking about this rumor, almost makes it sound like it can happen.

It would not be hard to patch current games to use an "xmote", since the Freestyle could be used in anything I tried it on. Motocross games would be a blast, and if done right you could have racing games where you only need the foot pedals, and not the awkward sit in your lap wheel. If done right that is.

Talryyn

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> MS is not going to crack the Wii market in the slightest. Wii covers that casual gaming market and just getting a similar looking control won't make people rush to MS. I could be wrong but I think MS is doing fine at least state side.

TheNexusRebound

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @okenny :): I know microsoft has a attach rate of 7 (or around that number) but that number wont be getting much higher and may decrease compared to somthing like the ps2 that has a wide variety of games so you could find at least 10 you like, as more xbox's sale and less games are released sides huge shooters, i think the attach rate will lower, of course this is NOT a fact and i could be completly wrong, im not some know it all god, its just my opinion, im thinking more of the long run

D Mitsuki

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> My littles sister saw this picture and said " That looks stupid" nuff said.

technical_ta

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @Sinnbox: I dont think you get me when i say single payer...and why it has a high attach rate chances are i can name everyone that people generaly have, if they just make good sp games they will get a bigger audiance, and there attack rate will go from 7 to 11 or 12 tearing up the competition

D Mitsuki

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @D Mitsuki: Well I can see why you would come to this conclusion but you're slightly misunderstanding it; at least the attach rate and sales figures state that you are. I agree with you on the point of demographics but while the typical 360 player is a young male, they have a higher spending budget on games, play games more often, and from their tastes and habits, they'd be classified in the upper-echelon of hardcore gamers. This isn't my point of contention as I hate that "hardcore" label (but it's rather convenient, wouldn't you say?). What really worries me is the equation with people who play online don't buy games as much where in fact the online component to a game is what makes it less likely to be re-sold which makes it more likely that people who want to play on-line games have to buy their own copies. ONLINE AND DIGITAL DISTRIBUTION'S MAIN GOAL IS TO KILL THE USED GAMES MARKET. Don't forget that.

I'm not sure that the market in Japan is the giant it once was. Well, at least not to the point that the markets unwillingness to accept shooters have made the shooter genre any less pervasive. If you speak from a Japanese-centric view then Microsoft certainly doesn't pull much weight even with a library as diverse as the PS3 in Japan. I think the problem for that lies elsewhere and is well out of the scope of this conversation.

I think that Microsoft understands it has a good chunk of the hardcore game market. Unlike Nintendo and to gamers' benefit, I don't feel Microsoft will neglect it's "hard-core" demographics with it's casual initiatives. I think they understand the value in both markets and expanding the ecosystems that you're accusing them of not doing is exactly what they are trying to do. I wish them success.

okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @D Mitsuki: There are alot of single player Xbox/Xbox360 games.....Plus your statement makes no sense, xbox has one of the highest attacah rates ever.....Wii has little to no attach rate...

Sinnbox

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> If Microsoft can find a way to successfully improve upon the Wii remote controller's innovation, then great but it doesn't change the way how this appears to be a desperate and pathetic attempt to get the 360 to appeal to more casual and non-gamers.
Still, it seems like a desperate and pathetic attempt on their part and one that will most likely piss off the majority of Xbox 360 fans.

It has tried to use everything from XBLA casual games to releasing the Arcade 360 console and casual games like Viva Pinata and Scene It. Currently, Microsoft's products just can't compete on the same level with the Wii. I think Microsoft has realized that the 360 may be approaching the limitations of its popularity with hardcore gamers seeing as how its hardware sales have slowed down and haven't caught up to the Wii despte the fact that most of its software sales and its attach rate remains impressive.

Microsoft's Wiimote knock-off seems like a desperate and pathetic move to me even if some of the games turn out to be good and successful.

I think Iwata knows what he talking about. Besides, Nintendo has other advantages go like the support of the expanded audience and a good marketing campaign and the novelty of the Wii and how the controller was designed for it in the first place.

The ball is in Nintendo's court and I don't see that changing any time soon.

Killer7

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> What he's saying:
"Wii Remote-like controllers are not a threat."

What he's thinking:
"Haha, bitches! I'm SWIMMING in cash, thanks to the Wii! 360 ain't got jack on Wii, especially in Japan where's it huge!"

It's kinda funny how executives think, huh?

BPMΣ

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> The name "Wii" already became too big to be stopped.. The "Xmote" would be no different than the Zune.

Anyway, I still think it's just a rumor.. but I see Wii style controls becoming standard on the next generation..

CockroachMan

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> Only if they put this much effort in solving the RROD problem. I know at least 1 person that when faced between buying GTA4 for PS3 or XBox, he chose PS3 because he already had one RROD, so he really didn´t want to risk that happening again on such a good game.

Sure, they can say it happens to a minority, but the problem is that it happens and its hassle that some ppl won't be willing to put up with, when faced with a choice.

Krumm

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @okenny :): If you look at microsofts fanbase its generaly older men and teenage boys who aren't really what you would call hardcore gamer's, the generaly play 1 game at a time, such as cod4 halo 3 or rainbow6 vegas 2, i think microsofts problem is the way they market games is for the online, wich has high replayability, therefore less games are sold, wich may be one of the reasons they charge for online and overprice everything else in exestince, what microsoft needs to do is release some games that have good SINGLE PLAYER, and possibly no multiplayer, and what i mean by this is not just releasing old sytle rpg's but make some new stuff of there own, or have developers do it for them, then if you capture a audiance that plays more then just 3 games a year there sales will rise, microsoft doesn't seem to understand we all just dont care about online shooters and if they can get that concept they will POSSIBLY get a greater market and even mabey some sales worth a damn in japan

D Mitsuki

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> Well atleast competition should make Nintendo actually try and use the Wii mote in more creative ways. I'm glad to see this happen really since Nintendo has done nothing exciting with the wiimote yet.

@Dauragon C. Mikado: I'd have to agree that it's mostly guys with money to waste. They seem to argue about using a 1,000 PC over a 360 on every FPS thats 360 and PC, they seem to have HDTV's alot and some buy it just for blue ray.

Llost

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> I'm not sure exactly what Microsoft is trying to do with this controller. It will be useless without games designed specifically for it, and how many developers want to design their game around an optional peripheral? Are they trying to get ports of Wii exclusive games?

Microsoft could make decent use out of it if a lot of games for it are released over XBLA since those are lower cost, and lower risk, but I don't see a bunch of XBLA games, and a special controller bringing a bunch of casual gamers into the 360 fold. It will be more like what typical gamer dude's typical non-gamer girlfriend plays when he isn't playing COD4. They still won't be tapping into that blue ocean of non-gamers who bought the Wii in droves.

Anyway the whole thing just seems like Microsoft is jumping on the waggle bandwagon, and nothing will come of it. I'm curious to see if they can prove me wrong.

Gouki4u

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @solar_tf: I guess, and I do not like itune's nor do i like the actual mp3 player, i actualy prefer the zune over the ipod, but my favorite is this sony one that i forgot its name but it was nice

D Mitsuki

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> Coming soon to the Xbox360, the Xbox360 Newton Controller, compatible with these great _games_ for girls...
VIVA PINATA!
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_Hayko

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> Well, all I'm going to say is that most of the good Wii Games are first party, so even if Microsoft launch a Wii-Remote style device. They will rely too much on third party developers to implement two control schemes. One for the normal controller and one for the X-Mote (as the thing that doesn't exist yet seems to be called). If you think about it as being the games that matter (in a non fanboy/troll-ish way) Microsoft basically have nothing in a first party domain, so they won't be able to create great first party games the same was Nintendo has for so many years.

cameleon

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @etho: Live itself certainly is one of 360's strong points. Even if it has inadvertently brought up the worst of online gaming (thanks to gamers, not the framework), it's still pretty darn amazing when sticking to playing with friends.

Compared to the last generation, the only thing missing is the next PS2. Nintendo convers the innovation, 360 covers online, and PS3 still remains a bit of a question mark.

As usual, stellar triple-A exclusives keep on getting released on all three but whereas PS2 eventually managed to cater something for everyone (hence the (ongoing) success), the current generation is still kinda waiting.

EldonTLH

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @D Mitsuki:

True, that. As far as I can remember the first big-name mp3-player was Creative's "Rio", and where is that now... If the ipod brought something new to the table, it was the integration with the itunes service (which doesn't even need an actual ipod machine to be used). So the innovation there - which was unsuccessfully copied by MS, anyway - was the music purchase system, no the hardware.

solar_tf

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @Malvolio the Magician: Well I'm not sure you see my point. I guess what I'm trying to say is that people say they don't see the need for a 360 to have such a solution because they Microsoft doesn't have the Nintendo portfolio and because the 360 isn't a Wii. This logic is flawed in two clear ways: Nintendo's main IPs have been primarily aimed at it's traditional markets, it's the new IPs that have really begin to hit home with the casual scenes and these new IPs are tightly bound to the interface of the system. The same way Sony and Nintendo have followed Microsoft's lead on online and built-in storage from last generation and the same way that Microsoft and Nintendo have followed Sony's lead in 3D consoles, innovation isn't something that should be left alone to the discoverer. Innovation is something that should be duplicated, iterated. Many argue that MS will not do it as good as Nintendo (and I'm almost inclined to agree) but let's see what they do first; this is a company whose had a problem with execution at critical moment so history could be against them if the right leadership isn't in place.

I'm thinking Microsoft wants into the new market really bad because Nintendo is doing what MS has dumped 10's of billions into over the past 10 years which is to simply make a connection with the consumer outside of the traditional computer space; MS sees that entertainment space that is mainstream, I mean TV, radio, cell phones and what not as a very important space to solidify brand recognition.

okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @Dauragon C. Mikado: Or how about ps3 = People like Chad Warden
lol i kid i kid, i dont want to insult anybody here THAT much

D Mitsuki

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @Jnkzm4: Though i dont have any of the current gen consoles, Sony too is a main culprit in "borrowing ideas" especially in the gaming industry with Nintendo. Nintendo always innovates in every generation one way or another. with the D-pad, the rumblepak, the wavebird and then finally the wii remote control. Sure motion controls have been done before, but the wii remote is really the first ever to be integrated with a console, where the sixaxis was a "me too" tacked on feature. Remember when the wii remote was first unveiled? and how the sony honchos started snickering? But one year later...

Like Picarso once said; "Good artists copy. Great artists steal."

zgnoud

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @Chadders:

I am a PC FPS player, and I find dual-analog controls, well, for the lack of a better word, completely stupid. That said, I've player Metroid Prime 3 and Medal of Honor Heroes 2, and while the controls there aren't as good as an actual mouse setup, they are pretty damn good. Heck, even Scarface plays fine with wiimote control.

Which brings me to the point of me never having been able to understand why the hell devs haven't been including mouse control as an option for console FPSs since they started getting popular. And don't tell me "consoles have never used mouses" because Mario paint in the SNES had a mouse controller.

Which brings me to the point that if other companies ever do include mouse in consoles, they'll still be copying an old nintendo control scheme, same as they did with the gamepad (NES), the shoulder buttons (SNES), the analog thumbstick (N64, count the rumblepack there, too), pressure-sensitive triggers (GC), and now the wiimote... hahah.

solar_tf

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @Last_Raven: hahaha it cant, nor do i have that much, but mine has the added bonus to play games has a browser can be used as a phone somtimes use msn and aim and stuff and tons of other things, so in capacity it lose's, but in my book it wins overall because i can play doom lans with ds and psp ownsers

D Mitsuki

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> The reason why casuals don't buy 360s is because of all those intimidating shootan games...

William Killer Shatner

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @D Mitsuki: "teenage emo girls who love rpg's?"

No that would be Ps2

Ps3 = dudes with too much money ;)

Dauragon C. Mikado

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @KaneRobot: lol coming from the guy who just trolled the Wii with a tired argument.

nintend0nick

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @D Mitsuki:

I don't think your DS can hold 80GB of music.... Granted I don't listen to it ALL but the point is that I have it there with me if I need it. I could use my PSP too, but the MS is just too small and I would rather play games on it.

Last_Raven

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> The thing is, that this would definitely not be a threat to the Wii. If they do it right, then it might become a popular add-on device, but I don't think it will ever become dominant to the same degree. They might try, but they just won't be able to do it right in my opinion. Just another thing to buy to play a handful of games. Maybe they should focus on making required equipment, like HDDs first.

Last_Raven

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @Tingle: Wtf is a ipod copy, the ipod is just a mp3 player with a fancy name....and for some reason i cannot conjure in my head people buy it, i just use my DS as a mp3 player...

D Mitsuki

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @NeoAkira: It's the + thing that lets you follow poeple right because that comment pwned on 3 diffrent levels lol

D Mitsuki

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> Fact is that people usually always go to the original, which a good example of is the Zune being the Ipod copy and not selling nearly as well. But i would assume Microsoft knew this and is rather just trying to take fizz away from Nintendo.
I hope Microsoft does not go for a similar design to the one in the original picture. Could anyone imagine an analogue stick that high?

Harmonica waits for the morons who removed my star

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @KaneRobot: \

I forgot, it's cutting edge hardware that makes a game system great. That's why the PS2's game library destroys all the current gen consoles' combined. Thanks for the reminder.

Oh and I also forgot that without online play a game isn't worth shit. That's why no one gamed outside of the PC until this generation right?

Oh and for the record I'd take 10 fun games over 50 mediocre games. But hey, you're free to mascaraed your trollish opinion all you want.

NeoAkira

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> Comment on Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat I remember when the Wii-mote was 8 bit, wired, and a glove with a lot of "Power"

MyrtleWorby

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> Once again we find the Microsoft corp. stealing ideas again. First it was the theft of Apple and now the theft of Nintendo. Original much?

Jnkzm4

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> IF Microsoft actually tries something like this - and I don't really think they would - but if they do, I would be very disappointed. They built the company off of borrowed innovations, but so far, the Xbox side of things has been a little better about that. I wouldn't really call the Xbox or the 360 innovative (I'd think about it for Xbox Live, but I dunno) but so far they've done a decent job of defining themselves as their own entity with their own direction. If they fall prey to that Old Microsoft tendency to look at something successful, make a crappier version of it, and slap a MS logo on the box, I would lose a lot of respect. If they are looking to get into the casual hardware market, I think i9t would be way smarter for them to make a lowish-priced handheld to compete with the DS. Then I wouldn't hate them.

etho

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> If they can make an Xmote that actually recognizes 1-to-1 movement, they would be able to make games that the Wii couldn't. An improved Wii-mote would likely be just the edge that Microsoft needs, and they certainly have the R&D resources to get it done.

UltimatePancakeSensation

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @okenny :):

I own both, but aside from the occasional Viva Pinata, I play one console more predominately that the other. But both pale in comparison to my handhelds.

Malvolio the Magician

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> xbox has to go cheaper specially the arcade version for that rumored wiimote clone to succeed. They already have the graphical advantage and they have better software overall so I expect this to be true. And hopefully a price drop too.

PogiJet

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> What Nintendo does, Microsoft steals. Etc.

Green-clad Gamer Dude

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @Malvolio the Magician: Well if you own both, wouldn't you say it's hard to see the need for such a solution? :\

okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> If they seriously release that, I can see them losing a lot of respect in many people's eyes. That might about as blatant of a ripoff as can be.

bangbangblah

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @Malvolio the Magician: They're trying but the gems are missing. Carbonated Games - their first-party developer - did an awesome job with UNO back in the launch days but seems like they're disbanded now and all that is left is random, semi-decent-to-lousy family games :(

Shaking loose of the testosterone-filled FPS/action/sports image takes a whole lot more than just trying but at least they still have their "home" genres in check.

As the competition doesn't seem interested in challenging MS where they're strong at, I kinda hope MS, too, would focus on where they excel at. Venturing to new fronts without real ammo is a bit awkward.

EldonTLH

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> So, if the rumor is true, MSoft is appealing to casual gamers more by making this, and Nintendo is appealing to Casual gamers even more by making more peripherals?

Kaljin

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @KaneRobot: when i walk into a store to get a 360 games, i see a wall of games about every one is rated m and has tons of blood in it and killing and shit, then there are a few things like lost oddesy and enternal sanatra kameo but i generaly see big buff space marine shooting tons of aliens or big buff army guy shooting tons of other big buff army guys

D Mitsuki

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> I would imagine like all peripherals that aren't bundled with the console any MS Remote will only be owned by a fraction of the main install base. And that means developers probably won't see any point in creating software specifically for a controller that the majority of the install base do not own. Why make a game just for the remote when they could create a game for joypads that every 360 owner can play?

Of course that doesn't negate some sort of dual control scheme that works with either control device, but generally the best Wii games are the ones that just wouldn't work very well with a normal joypad control scheme. Games like Wii Sports just wouldn't be fun if it wasn't for the motion controls and anything complicated just doesn't appeal to the casual gamer.

I think if a 360 Remote is to sell well, Microsoft will need to support it with a lot of original games that can appeal to the mass market, and I'm not sure Rare are up to the task of doing that, considering their best work was 11 years ago and it mainly consisted of ripping off the design formula of Mario 64....

That said, if Capcom were to add their RE4 Wii Edition controls to RE5 I would be very, very grateful. :)

photoboy

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @fourzerotwo:

You mean like Metroid Prime 3, Medal of Honour 3 and Pro-Evolution Soccer 08?

Chadders

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> Off-topic: except for the choppers, I think the Sixaxis for GTA4 is one of the best ever. Plus it doesn't shut down the joysticks so you can still use it to "aftertouch" your movements. But on the motorcycle and the boat, it's pretty solid. And I love the reloading thing.

FP_slomo788

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> "And there's such an orthdoxy to FPS controls now, I'm not sure it makes much difference."

I think the console orthodoxy needs challenging - if you were having this discussion with PC-only FPS users, they would laugh at having to muck around with 2 analog sticks instead of a mouse.

Chadders

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> Finally... my big button controller will have someone to hang with. We seriously don't have enough gimmick controllers that no one developers games for (except for the ones they launch with)... I'm not being sarcastic... seriously... I love one off gimmick controllers. For reals.

fourzerotwo

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @D Mitsuki: Yeah the only diffrence is the wii has more then that, the 360 doesn't have much more

This tired, inaccurate argument was old months ago. Why are people still holding on to it? What is wrong with people?

KaneRobot

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> First lets see if the x-mote has a good battery life, even with rechargable batteries, the speaker off and the vibration off, the wiimote eats them away...

TOCATL

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> Innovating on that console is the key, Iwata explains. And if Nintendo can keep beating others to the punch on new ways to play new games, it will do just fine.

Yeah, it only took them two generations to come up with a gimmick that finally allowed them to resurface. Who are we to bet against Nintendo again, especially with their obviously fantastic online "service" and cutting-edge hardware?

But, "IT'S THE GAMES THAT MATTER!"

Right?

[kotaku.com]

Exactly.

KaneRobot

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @Malvolio the Magician: teenage emo girls who love rpg's?

D Mitsuki

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> MS should try coming up with some original ideas once in a while. Y'know, just to mix it up a little. A company of that size/talent has to have some creative ideas in storage somewhere. I wish they'd bring those out instead of trying to rip off the Wii.

dj_fantastica

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> I've never really understood the point of MS's newton controller. It's purpose is obviously to draw in the same consumers who bought the Wii for its motion-sensitive controls.

But the Wii has motion-sensitive controls standardized for its games. The 360 does not. The 360 costs more than the Wii. The 360 has a worse public image than the Wii. The 360 doesn't have the "family friendly" games like Mario, Zelda, Mario Kart, etc.

So really I can't see the point of such a device for their console.

NeoAkira

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @KaneRobot: Yeah the only diffrence is the wii has more then that, the 360 doesn't have much more, go look at the library and see if its wrong and yeah i have a 360 and a wii to

D Mitsuki

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @KaneRobot:

But what about the PS3?

I can't think of a generic generalisation for their fanboys.

Malvolio the Magician

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> Of course it's not a threat. Same way the Zune wasn't a threat to the iPod.

Let's give Iwata a giant "No shit, Sherlock."

Ashurahori

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @Malvolio the Magician: That'll happen as soon as Nintendo starts widening their catalog so it appeals to more than girls and old people.

Har har. C WHAT I DID???

KaneRobot

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> @BlackDove: If trying mean's dissing somthing and then ripping it off because it does well, then sure there trying

D Mitsuki

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> Wow, if this remote sells well, I'm going to every xbot I knew who screamed the wii was stupid for waggle, and wiimote smacking them

D Mitsuki

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> I can't wait until X-Fit is released.

NeoStarr

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> I'm not really worried about Nintendo sales at all. It's great that their innovation is (supposedly) catching on.

Darthvinder

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> Maybe Microsoft should start widening up their catalogue so it appeals to more than testosteroned men, than making phallic controllers.

I speak as an owner of both a Wii and a 360.

Malvolio the Magician

]]> <![CDATA[Iwata: Wiimote Clone Not a Threat]]> Gotta give it to Microsoft, they're trying.

BlackDove

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