Please, Stop Giving Peter Molyneux Too Much Credit - Kotaku Comments

Please, Stop Giving Peter Molyneux Too Much Credit

Captain Impulse — Thu, 01 May 2008 22:51:52 MDT

@KM91: Maybe he'll get some ideas from Bethesda as to how to make Fable 2 better. ;)

Please, Stop Giving Peter Molyneux Too Much Credit

fuchikoma — Thu, 01 May 2008 09:06:49 MDT

I've never seen him pretend he's the whole studio. He's said many times he sucks at coding. Good to see him point out the others though. I agree about publishers too - even if you know the difference and want to keep it straight, it can be hard to tell whether a game is made by the publisher or another studio.

fuchikoma

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KM91 — Thu, 01 May 2008 05:57:46 MDT

It's like staring into oblivion.

KM91

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kiigan — Thu, 01 May 2008 05:06:05 MDT

He's right though, for a long time people over-credited him for the Bullfrog-era games that owed a large debt to the talented programmers and artists working on them. It's natural for the media to want to latch onto a personality - one person - and Peter plays this role well. However the reality is always far more complex - many talented people worked on Populous etc.

kiigan

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Lukehmuse — Thu, 01 May 2008 03:59:16 MDT

He needs to set Bullfrog back up.

Lukehmuse

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The Whaleman — Thu, 01 May 2008 03:17:37 MDT

While I have enjoyed every single game by Molyneux I've played back to the Atari ST, I have never ever paid much heed to what the guy says.. instead I've waited for his games to come out and then enjoy the living meatballs out of them. I don't care how much or little he actually has to do with them... they're all fun.

And I most definitely can't wait for Fable 2... as long as they keep the coop I don't care about anything else. That's one of the few things I've ever let myself be hyped about in a Molyneux game before it's released... but then I'm a sucker for coop games :)

The Whaleman

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Antiterra — Thu, 01 May 2008 03:06:04 MDT

@Antiterra: Huh, what just happened? My browser crashed right after I posted my comment, and somehow "fused" my reply to the GTA IV/Daily Show thread with this one. WTF?!

Antiterra

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Antiterra — Thu, 01 May 2008 03:01:45 MDT

Wow, he manages to come off as pretentious even when he's trying to sound modest. Petey, don't force yourself, we like you just the way you are.

Ooooh, the videos I posted yesterday on the IGN-hooker-killing-clip post! For those who can't get the vids to play, they're still up on the show's website: www.thedailyshow.com .

@mcderek3000: Ha-ha! Thanks for giving me my first good laugh of the day (about time, too, it's already 11AM).

Antiterra

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mindscienceofthemind — Thu, 01 May 2008 02:31:04 MDT

[gametruth.wordpress.com]

"Nobody in the games industry takes Peter Molyneux seriously any more. Worse, nobody in Lionhead takes him seriously either except when he gets into one of his legendary picky moods. Even more hilarious is that Peter the Mouthpiece has turned into one of the blandest corporate whores ever since his failing ailing money-losing studio was bought/rescued from self-destruction for a small amount of chunk change to save Fable 2.

The image around this guy is legendary, with his OBE and his ability to craft a perfect message for journos, but just as legendary is his lack of actually doing any work on any of the games that are "his". The Movies, Black and White 2, Fable, Theme Park, Dungeon Keeper and Syndicate are basically games built by other people. Everybody knows it, even most journalists, but they give Molyneux a blind pass because he occupies that untouchable space reserved for industry mouthpieces. As long as the man is good copy, whatever he says goes."

mindscienceofthemind

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mcderek3000 — Thu, 01 May 2008 01:19:00 MDT

Scene - Dayligh restaurant where everyone has Molyneux's face. The real Peter Molyneux sits at the table.

Waiter: Molyneux. Molyneux. Molyneux. Molyneux. Molyneux.
Woman: Molyneux.
Waiter: Molyneux, Molyneux, Molyneux?
(A terrified Peter Molyneux looks at the menu, every choice is Molyneux).
Peter: M...m...Molyneux!

mcderek3000

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Eden.B — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 23:52:25 MDT

Gossip ahead!
I've heard from Lionhead employees (and ex employees) that Peter hardly does any work these days (or on anything he did at Lionhead).
I mean, they said he was basically clueless about his CURRENT projects.

Their conclusion was that he's become a sort of figurehead...if that's true I tend to agree.

Eden.B

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Brian Ashcraft — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 23:03:45 MDT

@Spoony Bard:
I love it. I can't help myself.

ALL APOLOGIES.
m(_ _)m

Brian Ashcraft

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Spoony Bard — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:58:16 MDT

@fenderfuel08: Yes, Ash has made it his new thing. Officially. :)

Spoony Bard

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Philondra — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:54:32 MDT

The article referenced claims that "CliffyB rose to prominence with the Xbox 360 release of Gears of War."
CliffyB has been a household name for PC gamers since the original UT was released in 1999...

Philondra

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mr_dimsum — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:49:05 MDT

When this guy talks, it's the length of a novel.. You also have to add in the narration as if somebody is reading that novel.

Congratulations on him:
1) Talking without going over 20 paragraphs.
2) Without talking about something as if there is some great mystique or grandeur about it.
3) Admitting to something to degrade his credibility.

I love the guy, but god.. When he talks.. He really TALKS.

mr_dimsum

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Pezdispenser — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:48:50 MDT

I like Pete, but then again I was around for his greatest hits. If I were only around from Fable to present I think I probably wouldn't have as high of an opinion of him as I do now.

HEY PETER! I'm still waiting for Dungeon Keeper 3!

Pezdispenser

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fenderfuel08 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:44:09 MDT

lol more glowing red eyes on the decidedly evil gaming company executives and directors.

I am entertained.

fenderfuel08

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Captain Impulse — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:37:14 MDT

@okenny :): Achievement Unlocked: Old Yeller, 100G.

Captain Impulse

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dnzperson — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:28:41 MDT

@okenny :): Haha, I laughted for about five minutes after reading that :D

dnzperson

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Roto13 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:24:26 MDT

Mo' liek blame, m i rite?

Roto13

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geoffcbassett — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:14:43 MDT

stop with the red eyes kotaku, you'll make people think I'm a devil worshipper.

(and the last thing I need is them getting suspicious)

geoffcbassett

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RuttedStar — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:14:43 MDT

He's so modest! We should give him more credit than ever!

RuttedStar

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Cruithne — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:12:31 MDT

Leave uncle Pete alone, you bastids.

Cruithne

Please, Stop Giving Peter Molyneux Too Much Credit

VakeroRokero — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:10:04 MDT

looking at my copy of the Hollywood Industry simulation "The Movies", I say

"he was one of the greatest game designers of the 80's and early 90's"

but he is no Miyamoto, a guy that actually delivers...

VakeroRokero

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art_zombie — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:00:36 MDT

He sure did deliver on that Populous though. That was like a team of him and 3 other guys.

art_zombie

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Americo — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:54:53 MDT

I give him credit for overhyping games and boasting features that aren't in the final release. *eyes his copy of Fable*

Americo

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dnzperson — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:54:35 MDT

@jambe: Dude, seriously have you not heard of Bullfrog? Populous? Dungen Keeper?

Mate, I would run for the hills or put on some serious flame proof clothing.

dnzperson

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PatMan33 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:32:52 MDT

I think he is getting less credit because we have all become wise to his games.

PatMan33

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jambe — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:29:48 MDT

Actually, why does this guy think he's such hot shit? What the hell has he done? Black and White seems to be the only game he's made that got really good reviews.

jambe

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okenny :) — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:26:59 MDT

@Ignatius: I don't know about you but I plan to buy a box of tissue with my copy of Fable 2. I'm going raise sparky and shoot him in the ribcage right before the game ends and then cry over his body to see if a get an Achievement :|

okenny :)

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Captain Impulse — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:26:18 MDT

Translation: Don't blame me when Fable 2 sucks.

Addendum: I really hope Fable 2 doesn't suck.

Captain Impulse

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Nexus6 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:26:06 MDT

@Kai_: I would have to wholeheartedly disagree.

Nexus6

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dnzperson — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:25:05 MDT

@Kai_: You are kidding right?

dnzperson

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LittleBigPlaneteer — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:24:40 MDT

Ouch, let's hope Pete is reading these comments, his ego might take a hit.

LittleBigPlaneteer

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okenny :) — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:24:17 MDT

Shit, I'll admit it! I like hearing him talk :|

okenny :)

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jambe — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:21:35 MDT

I was doing what now?

jambe

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Swift_ — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:20:20 MDT

How much of very little credit can we give him? His games haven't been any good so far.
Sorry, Peter!

Swift_

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alb1221 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:19:41 MDT

Peter is ones of those guys like Kojima who has unbelievable creative ambition, when they start a project it becomes everything. For that he has my respect, even if his games are apparently "neutered". I'll still buy, and love to death, each of his games.

alb1221

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BoSU — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:16:31 MDT

He gets a lot of shit for not delivering all of his promises, but I still have greatly enjoyed every game he has designed.

BoSU

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LittleBigPlaneteer — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:16:05 MDT

In other words, don't put all the blame on me if Fable 2 is shit!

(kidding)

LittleBigPlaneteer

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Eddy666 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:15:50 MDT

Who?

Eddy666

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dnzperson — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:14:03 MDT

Peter always seems to speak from the heart ;-)

dnzperson

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Ignatius — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:13:40 MDT

He'll get credit when he delivers on his outlandish claims.

Ignatius

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Maldron — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:12:16 MDT

So long as he doesn't think he's being under-credited.

Maldron