RAC Re-ignites Nintendo Sega Feud - Kotaku Comments

RAC Re-ignites Nintendo Sega Feud

globones — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:09:43 MDT

Why is every still comparing NES to genesis?

SMS &NES= 8 bits

SNES &Genesis= 16 bits

both generations the systems released closer to their counterparts. Stupid people makes me confused and my head hurt. Noobs.

globones

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relic1980 — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:24:00 MDT

@Orionsaint: Great. Now you got me in the mood to pop my Devilish cart in and play ^_<. IMO some of the best music tied to the (well, maybe not lamest game) would probably be Drakkhen (anyone played this?). I got through the game, but only through much frustration (and having to restart the game once), but BOY was that music memorable...

relic1980

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Lijik — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 09:44:26 MDT

While Sega wins overall since the compositions are better, my favorite remix on here is the Mario one since its the only one that I feel really does something with the music.

Lijik

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nikolaj — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 09:37:45 MDT

@alpha_prime:
actually, it was megadrive EVERYWHERE except the us.
I believe it was for some copyright-issues.

nikolaj

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shouryuuken — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 09:31:08 MDT

@PapaBear434: technically, nintendos been putting out new ips all through this gen. wii sports, wii fit, big brain academy, wii play, flash focus, and brain age are new intellectual properties. but as for new character driven ips, i agree. thats what i loved about old school sega, theyd bust out new ips every gen, and they were all amazing.

@cheeseboybeans: well... remember america always had to deal with getting a different name for the systems for some reason, but not just from europe, but from the rest of the world in some cases. master system was also the mark III in japan, megadrive was the genesis in every other territory but na, and lets not forget the nintendo and super nintendo were famicom products in japan, and the pc engine was the turbo grafx 16, glad they stopped that with the playstation/saturn/nintendo 64.

@Gagaman: dude yeah... streets of rage!

okay... yeah i think nes vs genesis is odd, and it def should have been snes vs genesis, not only was the snes a better console, they were the same gen. i never heard kids arguing that their nes was more powerful than some other kids genesis. i guess nes vs gen is wii vs 360. everybody knows that the xbox brand took segas place consolewise.

actually though, i think the snes is the ps3, while the 360 is the genesis. think about it.. the ps2 is like the nes, with sony killin the competition so bad theres no way they can be touched. here comes msft with their xbox to try and compete, but its only popular in one region. then, their next system comes out and quickly gains steam in america (where the genesis was popular), and the next playstation comes out selling out, but isnt beating the 360 just yet... its slowly catching steam though and will probably be the victor out of the two in the long run.

shouryuuken

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Gagaman — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 05:31:06 MDT

Should have been a Sonic mix and a Streets of Rage Mix. The Mega Drive was awesome, and had plenty of variety. The American advertising for the "Genesis" was very annoying and arrogant though, I can understand why people may have hated them based on those, but in Europe Sega ruled, with ads that didn't resort to slagging off the competition.

Gagaman

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alpha_prime — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 05:16:21 MDT

I think it was because 'genesis' was already copyrighted here, it's the name of a rockband.

Anyway, i still love the megadrive, it was probably the first console(not handheld) that i got. I also had a gamegear back then, a colour lcd that big was simply amazing, too bad the battery life wasn't !

alpha_prime

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cheeseboybeans — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 05:11:25 MDT

Why was the Genesis called the Mega Drive here in Europe? Was it because we don't like the Bible or Phil Collins as much as you guys...?

cheeseboybeans

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Orionsaint — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 04:45:17 MDT

@Fyren:

What's awesome about the article is I don't have to put on my glasses to read it.

Orionsaint

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Balance_In_Life — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 02:33:19 MDT

@BPMγ: I'm with ya BPM. I remember Teddy Boy. SMS was awesome. Just never hit it to hard. It will die on you.

Balance_In_Life

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Fyren — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:29:02 MDT

I really hope you guys listened to the song that is the feature of this article.

From Atari to the current-gen, I still place SNES as the top of the bunch, Atari 2600 sits somewhere between #1 and #2.

Fyren

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bobtheduck — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:24:27 MDT

Oldschool Ninty fanboy here... I hated everything about Sega, except the gamegear, for which I secretly hated Nintendo for refusing to release a color Gameboy... There were like four incarnations of the monochrome Gameboy before they finally moved on to color, but then color only lasted like a year before they made the advance... GBA made me love Nintendo's portables again, but I had already moved on to Sony by that time, so it was like "I want a Playstation and a Gameboy Advance"

Now I can play Gameboy advance and Gamegear / master system (they're exactly the same on the inside) games on my PSP, as well as watch movies and play PS1.5 games... Ah, emulation.

Oh, I'll take the NES's music over the FM Midi on the Genesis any day... Mother's (NES) music was actually better than Mother 2's music on the SNES... They did the best they could with those machine sounds that predate FM Midi and the wav manipulation in the SNES (SNES has it's own basic midi, too, but the better soundtracks never used it)

I didn't end up buying a Genesis until after I got my PS1. I bought a Genesis, several games, and a 32x with Doom... I never actually hooked up the 32x, though. I gave the genesis to a friend who was going to conservation corps... He sold it for food money later on, I believe... Along those same lines, I didn't get a Dreamcast until after I got my PS2... Still love that little system, especially the VMUs... I with the current gen had those. I would love a next-gen VMU.

bobtheduck

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TheIrishNinja — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:05:48 MDT

@nypad5: someone didnt play ToeJam & Earl.
Or Streets of Rage, or Phantasy Star II.
seriously, i know it was bad MIDI music but there was some classic shit there.

TheIrishNinja

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TheIrishNinja — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:05:16 MDT

@Weasel3689: i beat Alex Kidd in Miracle World, six years after originally getting it. its still one of my proudest achievements.

@gils0n: i does what i can, sir.

@Maldron: but...but they're fun! oh, i bet you said Mario Paint was just an MS paint clone in the day and missed that boat, too.

@ShaggE: the four of us should form a club.

@Terance: haha, you're prolly right, at that. i just imagine it was more fun 's all. now, its hard for me to even read this site's comments sometimes, for all the hate.

TheIrishNinja

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nypad5 — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:02:12 MDT

All sega music sounded the same

nypad5

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Orionsaint — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:29:04 MDT

@QuickPick:

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Devilish on Genesis had some of the best music around. At 3:58 pay attention to the music. That's the most amazing thing ever written for a game. It sounds like TRON. It comes out of nowhere. It's like this lame game and yet the music is some of the most amazing 16bit music ever produced!

Orionsaint

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bonnebonne — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:43:47 MDT

SNES vs Genesis is where it really heated up.

bonnebonne

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room88 — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:37:07 MDT

Ahh yes.. the picture of the classic "NES vs. Genesis" console war...

It's right there in my memory with the "Xbox 360 vs. PSX" console war.

Nice tunes though ;)

room88

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Scaraba — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:27:14 MDT

Sega had some of the best soundtracks ever. Listen to Sonic 2's Wing Fortress zone and tell me that it couldn't be almost transcribed to sheet music. Because it can.

Also, check out Vectorman 2. Someone could have some fun remixing that stuff.

/fanboy off.

Scaraba

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winston441984 — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:05:43 MDT

I remeber gettnig a sega genesis back in the day. i was so pissed i really wanted a nintendo nes. but i was realy happy with it. i remeber hooking it up the the family tv and everyone wanting to play. great childhood memory. Thanks Sega!!!

winston441984

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Weasel3689 — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:56:42 MDT

@TheIrishNinja:
# 4 here.

Played alex kidd in miracle world at a friends house all the time. Never owned one though, I didn't get into it until genesis
Original sega fanboy 4 life!

I love nintendo but damnit my first games were sonic 1, 2, and 3 (and sonic and knuckles). But agreed classic fanboyism on the playground was much more intelligent and good-natured than today's OMG PS3/360/WII IS TEH SUXXORZZZ!!!!11!

Ah......good times

Weasel3689

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Blake Ruff — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:44:56 MDT

So NES is like Hillary Clinton: the bitchy console that everyone likes. And the Sega Mega Drive (Genisis for the noobies) is like Obama: we need raw power to get shit done! Plain and simple as that.

Blake Ruff

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Ultrasinc — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:22:31 MDT

Lol, so in decades time, which one will it be?

- God of War on XBox, or
- Windows on Playstation

Ultrasinc

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QuickPick — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:12:51 MDT

Genesis sound was crap. Snes had digital sound!!
Anyway, play Samurai Shodown on snes and genesis and tell me which one is better..

QuickPick

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kidnicky — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:51:01 MDT

Geist and Nintendogs are both newer than Pikmin,aren't they?
Anyway,I'm only on the second track,but I've allready decided Sega wins,since oldschool Sega music is pretty much the best game music there is. Sonic,Streets of Rage,Outrun,Space Harrier,etc. The day Dreamcast died was when I stopped being a "1337 g4m3r" and just became someone who kind of likes video games.

kidnicky

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frostcircus — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:41:43 MDT

@robinandtami: YOU WILL PAY FOR THAT REMARK WITH YOUR BODILY FLUIDS EXCEPT AGH I CAN'T DECIDE WHICH ONES, IF ONLY I WERE LOUD AND OPINIONATED ABOUT THAT TOPIC ALSO

frostcircus

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A_Knothole_Resident — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:37:17 MDT

That was dancetastic! If Daft Punk or Justice remixed video game music, this is what it would sound like.

A_Knothole_Resident

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robinandtami — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:36:34 MDT

Fanboyism is a part of human nature and always will be. We've always gone back and forth over which political party is better. Which football team. Which make of car. Which religion. I'm sure the cavemen fought back and forth over buffalo skin vs. bear skin.

I say the PS3 is buffalo skin and the 360 is bear skin! Take that fanboys!

robinandtami

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Orionsaint — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:33:16 MDT

I remember the Atari Vs Intellivision fued. The Atari 5200 vs Coleco Vision fued. The NES vs SMS fued and the Genesis vs SNES fued, but never the NES vs Genesis fued. It's no contest in terms of power, plus while the Genesis was being released NES was peaking.

Orionsaint

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Muffin_Man — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:32:20 MDT

Whoa, this is a way higher caliber than I expected. Might have to get the old Nomad out again. (yup, Nomad, I was in the Sega camp back in the day)

Muffin_Man

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gils0n — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:20:16 MDT

@TheIrishNinja:

"fanboys lately are just boring. invest in the company's stock or get off its dick and just enjoy the systems you got."

Dude, that's the best remark against fanboyism I've ever read.

Hero'd

gils0n

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Nside — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:19:28 MDT

That was back when console wars were fought on all fronts. Good times.

Nside

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PapaBear434 — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:15:35 MDT

@TheIrishNinja:

Not really. As Maldron says, it's a collection of minigames, not really a name brand. No real characters.

Plus, the games are pretty limited. Not a WHOLE lot of depth. I'd consider it more of a free tech-demo if anything.

PapaBear434

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Dakobah — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:08:44 MDT

Best. Console war. ever

lol i had to do that

Dakobah

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Nside — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:06:29 MDT

Who Remembers...

"Genesis Does... What Ninten-don't"

ahahaha...

Nside

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Maldron — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:59:08 MDT

@TheIrishNinja: A collection of mini-games shouldn't be allowed to be a franchise. -.-

Maldron

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TheIrishNinja — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:57:28 MDT

@PapaBear434: inclined to agree, but i think wii sports might be the next IP, no?

TheIrishNinja

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shirosan — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:54:17 MDT

You might want to listen to this:
[www.chapter6.net]

Probably the best Sonic remixes I've heard

shirosan

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DaiMacculate — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:48:58 MDT

@PapaBear434: Yeah that console war was just as bitter as this one, if not more so since I was actually an obnoxiously pre-teen/teen at the time ;)

Thats why while I dislike fanboyism I try to hate the sin and not the sinner, so to speak :)

DaiMacculate

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DaiMacculate — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:47:34 MDT

The feud is over? All those years spent constructing an orbital death ray station capable of remotely eliminating all of Sega's dev facilities simultaneously were wasted?

The guys at Nintendo Fanboy central control are gonna be so disappointed :P

@LedRush: Yeah thats the thing, by the time the SNES hit it was Nintendo's game to lose basically in terms of sales.

Also an interesting parallel to the current Wii sales killing the 360 and PS3 situation, not to mention the odd phenomena of the PS2 continuing to sell well but not necessarily boosting the PS3 in any specific way (that is obvious at least). Not that I care either way (I'll probably own all three by the end of '08 one way or another), but I wonder if it will play out to where the Wii2/whatever has an "assumed" advantage the way the SNES did.

Thats not to say the Genny didn't have some hot titles, and obviously did better in other territories than the USA, but yeah ;)

DaiMacculate

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PapaBear434 — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:45:23 MDT

@ShaggE:

You seem to be remembering a different console war than me.

Outside of that, the thing that strikes me as funny:

Does Nintendo win on sheer variety...

Hearing Nintendo being accused of variety is kind of funny now, as they haven't had a new IP since Pikmin.

PapaBear434

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stranger — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:44:41 MDT

@LedRush:

No, the real real console war was the Sega CD vs. the Snes! ;-P

stranger

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stranger — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:43:23 MDT

Sorry to nitpick here, but shouldn't that be a Master System in that pic, not a Genesis/Mega Drive?

stranger

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Ruglia — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:38:14 MDT

@DigitalHero: You speak truth, sir.

I LOVE that "Geez!"

Ruglia

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Lanhoj — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:37:16 MDT

so the 'NES vs. Genesis' is now '360 vs. PS3' ?
just swap em in / out and its spot on!
the 360 being the NES and PS3 being the Genesis.
and who won that console war? hmmm

Lanhoj

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Trancer — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:35:30 MDT

(blew away)

Trancer

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Trancer — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:34:55 MDT

Sega beats out Nintendo with the remixes.

Song wise I'd say: Link > Sonic Labyrinth > Sonic Spring Yard > Mario
The link tune had an amazing riff halfway through, it blew the competition.

Trancer

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Grimhound — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:32:10 MDT

Two words. Blast Processing.

No, I cannot keep a straight face as I say that.

Grimhound

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LedRush — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:31:16 MDT

I am glad this shows the NES vs. Genesis. People always compare the Genesis to the SNES without realizing the real battles was with the NES.

LedRush

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frostcircus — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:26:29 MDT

@ShaggE: What's odd is that despite being better natured, the war was also much more OTT back then than it is today. Fan art depicting huge, sprawling battles between Sonic and Mario, with blood and gore everywhere - that's my main memory.

These days the combatants ostensibly focus more on the consoles themselves, but they do it with a violent religious fervour that completely shatters any semblance of rational thought.

It's almost paradoxical: the war's been made less ridiculous, but what's left of it gets handled ridiculously.

frostcircus