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Giantsonic — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:13:55 MDT

I thought it was Jesus...

Giantsonic

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Vret — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 12:52:54 MDT

Actually, Fahey, just because Fighter was chosen second dosen't mean that, had you presented my fellow kotakutites with the true 4 choices, people would have actually chosen him!

Allow me to explain briefly. Your making the implicit assumption that the axiom of "independence of irrelevant alternatives" is valid, which means that you're assuming that the introduction of a fifth "irrelevant" alternative does not change the preferences of the voters.

However, experimentaly this has been proven to be (potentially) false! No less a figure than Daniel Kahneman (winner of the Nobel in economics in 2002) found results that contradict this axiom (see the final link below). What's worse, it's probably false for individuals, which means that in a aggregate level, it's almost certainly false.

So, to simplify things, by putting up an irrelevant choice for your voters to choose from, you may (and emphasys on the may) have made those people who would have voted for Red Mage (or Thief or Black Belt) for Crescente instead, moreso than people who would have voted for Fighter. I.e., the "will of the people" may have been for some other tatoo.

In theory, you should really redo the votes without Crescente to confirm if the choices are maintained. But I'm doubtful that you'll even read this, much less redo the votes just because you have violated an axiom in your voting system.

If you want to learn more:
[en.wikipedia.org] Wikipedia page with some basic info
[psiexp.ss.uci.edu] Paper by Kahneman that finds experimental evidence of violation

Vret

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bonecows — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 11:37:47 MDT

@Kum0: Came here to say that. I know Threepwood doesn't have a beard and is blond but there's something in that picture that screams: "You fight like a dairy farmer!"

bonecows

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tawni — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 10:23:03 MDT

Ok, I'm definitely getting a crecente tattoo on my breast but not that pic. I'll get one with the shades such as a still from the first part of the mario kart video. This will be fun.

tawni

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Drakelet — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 04:15:36 MDT

Talking of tattoos... This one is awesome!!
[uk.gear.ign.com]

Drakelet

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Cchrist — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:58:00 MDT

In holland at a union tattoo parlor you have to way a week after ytou've chosen what it's going to be, before you get an appointment.

I's my birthday the 7th of may so i'll be setting up a "Get simon a new tattoo" fund again. :P

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Kum0 — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:53:26 MDT

For some reason looks like Guybrush Threepwood ^ ^

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Captain Impulse — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:09:03 MDT

@Pezdispenser: Going for the Crecente de Bergerac/Roxanne mental image? Simultaneously clever and terribly disturbing. I think you deserve another star.

Captain Impulse

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Pezdispenser — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:35:01 MDT

A Crecente tattoo like that deserves a more prime piece of real estate, say, in the groin area. There, now you all have that horrible image burned into your minds. My work here is done...

Pezdispenser

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calpchen — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:44:41 MDT

No, no. Not that Crecente. We wanted the Garlic Crecente.

calpchen

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Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:41:35 MDT

Then why was Crecente a choice? Surely you knew he would get the most votes.

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Reuptake — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:03:49 MDT

Dude, people will think you have a pixelated Jesus on your arm.

Reuptake

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ZeroCorpse — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:58:52 MDT

You should start hanging out with Zune Guy.

ZeroCorpse

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Eville1 — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:28:24 MDT

Dude, you're hooked. Welcome to the fold.

Eville1

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(俗・ ) Grey Gecko — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:19:04 MDT

XXDD

you win Fahey!
@Bernard McGraw: /agreed

(俗・ ) Grey Gecko

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Ultrasinc — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:18:46 MDT

Lol at tatoo, slash your wrist to kill/feed Crecente

Ultrasinc

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elislider — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:07:40 MDT

i cast magic missle

elislider

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Acute Gamer — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:46:31 MDT

Looks like a young Obi-Wan Kenobi!

Acute Gamer

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DaoKaioshin — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:31:01 MDT

I agree with squishy about the crescente fighter.

I'd also like to point out that now you have dps and a tank, so you'll need a healer somewhere.

DaoKaioshin

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FellTheDabus — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:12:52 MDT

@Nauas: Buy shirts with the right sleeve length and it isn't an issue.

FellTheDabus

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Nauas — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:43:02 MDT

Well, the next time you give a business presentation, when your sleeve slides down, you'll finally have everyone's attention.

Nauas

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Adrock4 — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:34:24 MDT

Epic fail for not using Crecente.

Adrock4

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Capt Castellanos — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:42:45 MDT

@homeskillet81: i am now actually considering getting that tattoo.
thank you, kind sir.

Capt Castellanos

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homeskillet81 — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:27:10 MDT

what you need is a pixelated version of jesus on your arm, it'll add a touch of class that the arm may otherwise be missing. it even adds extra guilt for those "self induced fun times"

homeskillet81

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Squishy3 — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:25:27 MDT

You should honestly get a tattoo of Fighter with a miniature version of Crecente's head on it.

Squishy3

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bangbangblah — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:20:15 MDT

Mike. I may have said it before, but may I just reiterate how much I love this idea of yours?

bangbangblah

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Kenny — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:19:16 MDT

Awesome shop job Qbix! That pic actually had me fooled (and scared) for a few seconds.

Kenny

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qbix — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:06:01 MDT

lol, thanks. I just couldn't resist. And for those of you who are willing to actually tattoo Crecente's face on your [insert body part], here's the picture you should take to your local tattoo artist :)

qbix

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Komrade_Kayce — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:01:21 MDT

@mgy:

lol

Komrade_Kayce

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mechtroid — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:58:48 MDT

@mgy: Quote of the day.

mechtroid

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Ghede — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:56:42 MDT

LOL! Or, as others prefer: WWWW!
That made me laugh my ass off. First time in a long time anything I have read on the internet has made me laugh like that. Unstoppable girlish giggling. I actually had to apply to recertify my Man card. I can expect a response in 2-3 weeks.

Ghede

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mgy — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:51:18 MDT

What's the point in holding a vote if you're not going to honor the result? I feel like Palestine.

mgy

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Double J — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:49:52 MDT

Damnit, I still say that my Spoony Bard in Olde English idea is the superior option.

Double J

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Superstar90 — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:46:33 MDT

OMG THAT IS THE BEST PHOTOSHOP EVER.

Superstar90

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BaseVilliN — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:39:29 MDT

Need a re-vote sans Crecente option.

Who knows what the Crecente voters would have otherwise chosen.

BaseVilliN

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ZeroCoin — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:36:16 MDT

At first glance I thought you had chosen a Guybrush Threepwood tattoo.

ZeroCoin

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AUAnonymous — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:35:54 MDT

YES! Just YES! If it were real that is...:(

AUAnonymous

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RPharazonius — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:33:34 MDT

Qbix should get a real prize. Something big, like money, or $500 gift card. That Pixel Crecente is immaculate.

RPharazonius

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ShaggE — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:32:26 MDT

Also, the pixel art gives me an idea: bribe LucasArts to breakout the ol' SCUMM engine and make an adventure game about Crecente.

ShaggE

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Fyren — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:31:16 MDT

Two things that has to be immaculate with Fighter ink.

1. Make sure his front bangs has a flare

2. Make sure that his eyebrows are indented upwards; a la scowl mode.

Your ink will be in vain if those two prominent features are missing from Fighter.

Fyren

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Haniko — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:30:50 MDT

That's not fair. He won, you should have to do it. D<<<

Haniko

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Sam Smith — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:29:07 MDT

I am guilty for voting for Crecente. I s till think you should go for it... just look at the picture. Its awesome! MAKE IT A REALITY FAHEY

Sam Smith

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ceokhan — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:29:06 MDT

AHHHHHHHHH What in the world! *Faints*

ceokhan

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ShaggE — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:26:45 MDT

Man, that pic is Crecentastic.

ShaggE

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feartheraven — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:26:07 MDT

what remade ff game should i get for my ds? ive never played one before. black mage is from iii right? which is better iii or iv?

feartheraven

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Sadgasim — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:23:00 MDT

"...designs available from "I love you MOM" to "Death to America" are available,But be cautious of what you get a tattoo of because you never know how your feeling for your mom might change." - Lewis Black (The Daily Show - When tattoos became legal in Iraq)

Sadgasim

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i_9 — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:22:02 MDT

I can only wonder how long before we see people sending in pictures of themselves getting/with Crecente tattoos.

i_9

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Glare — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:20:32 MDT

Wow, you used to have a pretty hairy arm.. I mean who grows hair on the under part of the fore-arm? Even I don't, and I'm a pretty hairy man.

To think about it you're pretty cool.

I mean hair does make the man.

Glare

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超外人 — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:20:11 MDT

The Crecente should have been chosen. I thought we voted on this and you chose what was voted in the majority D:
Oh well at least something people voted for was chosen.

超外人

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Apollo — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:20:06 MDT

I'm stealing the votes then, and I'll get a tat of Crecente? Fair enough?

Apollo

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Moridin — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:19:10 MDT

Well done, Qbix! I'm pretty sure I voted for Red Mage. Bummer! Good luck, regardless.

Moridin

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CaptLtrl — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:17:07 MDT

Creepy, I was just looking at the other article a second ago when this popped up.

OOOWEEEOOOOOOOOO *ghost noises.

CaptLtrl

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Cenobia — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:16:16 MDT

Best.Photoshop.Ever

Cenobia

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flashtut — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:16:02 MDT

You should have stuck with Crecente...better job security. We are after all seemingly falling into a recession.

flashtut

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Bernard McGraw — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:15:48 MDT

Post of the year.

Bernard McGraw

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Komrade_Kayce — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:14:04 MDT

To not get a Crecente tattoo now would make our votes seem meaningless!

Komrade_Kayce

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LittleBigPlaneteer — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:13:43 MDT

MOOOOGLEEEEE!

LittleBigPlaneteer

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dadeisvenm — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:11:43 MDT

*Screaming* sigh *SCREAMING LOADER*

dadeisvenm

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Dakobah — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:11:31 MDT

so yah your getting a crecente tatto or no?

think that you should that would be so cool,

retro crecente

Dakobah

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Aflack: Likes slushies — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:10:37 MDT

Oh my. At first glance I thought that was real. >_>

Aflack: Likes slushies

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DanteODiabo — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:10:34 MDT

Crecente's wife would get jealous Mike. And she would probably think that while you guys were in San Francisco... oh god what a perfect city for you two to get gay in.

DanteODiabo

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Krondonian — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:09:05 MDT

Qbix deserves some serious Kash as a reward. That is pure win.

Krondonian

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balls187 upside yo head — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:08:08 MDT

LOL that would be fawking awesome.

balls187 upside yo head