I thank god that games can be patched now... sure it's made for some sloppy shit but at least they can fix it as liquid_kore so kindly pointed out. These guys (Criterion) may need to cool down a bit. They delivered a competent game but they shouldn't start doing things to start making people think if you want quality Criterion games, you better play it on the PS3. Burnout is beginning to take on that air about itself.

okenny :)

liquid_kore

If only he had used the right "you're." What. A. Waste.

akashhhhh

Second and second.

Scruffy_the_Janitor

inkedgamer

inkedgamer

geez. did they even PLAY the game? There is no way to NOT notice a difference

ajacy

I was a big Burnout fan but hated Paradise. Without Crash mode it isn't a Burnout game as far as I'm concerned.

I'm not a racing game fan so the fact that Burnout was never really about racing is what I liked about it.

Burnout Paradise is a racing game.

skullivan

I'm the first person you've heard criticize this game? Seriously?

Paradise has been ridiculously polarizing. I could give you my usual, lengthy rant. But Yahtzee actually sums it up pretty well...

[www.escapistmagazine.com]

akashhhhh

The Jerk

Yeah, you're absolutely right. Some games are extremely rushed and obviously glitchy.

I think it all goes back to deadlines.

karasu is my homeboy

Seiven

TearsandScreams

I was talking about glaringly obvious glitches and bugs that destroy framerate and cause crashes/freezes. A good recent example is Bully: Scholarship Edition. Not only did the game have choppy framerates during cut scenes, it also would freeze and crash at random intervals throughout play. This is something a QA tester would catch in approximately an hour and a half of play.

Now, bugs as noted by poster Karasu, the extremeley specialized ones, those are much tougher to catch and I can understand that. We shouldn't have to apologize for developers who release games with blatant, game-breaking bugs.

The Jerk

Kyle81

Kyle81

Shiryu

This game isn't fun. A better framerate isn't going to fix that.

akashhhhh

@liquid_kore: Oh OUCH! You, sir, are a mean bastard. Well done, well done...

Sorry again, Kyle. :)

@The Jerk: The complexity of making games is nowadays on par with Pc equivalents. This is the main reason why I only own a wii of this corrente generation. I have had support for PC games for ages, and even before steam, I never complained about it.Extra DLC on the PC has always been FREE, and (most of)the game devs nowadays want to keep it free on the consoles but Sony and M$ want them to make money out of them. nintendo will follow shortly, but I hope not to the extend of Live! Then we pay 70 €uros over here for a 360 or PS3 for a "huge" game and ending up with a rushed out beta at home for my money. Im not even gonna get started on RRoDs or BluRay faulty drives... we lost our way somewhere along the path of evolution. This saddens me. Even worse... the general public seems to take this lyign down.

Dammit, im all depressed now! Time to fire up a SNES emulator on my laptop...

Shiryu

To be fair again, the problems that slip through QA that people care about are usually much, much more obvious. I guess they hope they get away with it, or they're being pressured by time deadlines and figure they'll fix it later, as long as they get it out.

karasu is my homeboy

ChoZ3nWon

I'm guessing that as games get more and more expensive either QA is being handled by the developers themselves ... or they're only using 1 or 2 people, or maybe even none at all.

When Splinter Cell: Double Agent came out for the PC is was in such a horrible state, that it could've been considered an alpha build of the game. And apparently, the developers themselves did the QA.

dead_red_eyes

Kyle81

The real issue has to do with the different kinds of hard drives the different SKUs use.

Mr_Fuzzypaws

The Jerk

"Well...the framerate only drops at high speeds. We recommend pacing yourself and going a little slower for an optimal Burnout Paradise experience."

But instead, they take the high road. Damn quality developers caring about their games. :D

Take note, Ubisoft.

karasu is my homeboy

@Homemaker Betty: Console games have always had bugs though. It's not something new, lot of old games have bugs, even game breaking ones as well. They just got ignored since there never was a thing that could be done about them.

Kyle81

I'm going to definately have to agree with you, for consoles, a game that's glitchy is completely inexcusable.

I come from a PC gaming background, so patches i'm used to...too many configurations to play test them all.

Consoles? No excuses.

The Jerk

Shiryu

The Jerk

Miyamoto said it best: "A delayed game has much more probabilities to becoming a GREAT game rhater then a rushed one". It's common sense! Start using it, VG industry people!

Kudos for Criterion for finding the bug and fixing it before release. Extra Kudos for making the DLC free of charge. More should follow the example.

Shiryu

ShaggE

Jun581 won't give you tree fiddy!!

CitizenInsane27

liquid_kore

eTrece

Oi...

Ignatius

But that's ok, as the announced bikes, night time driving, and (possible) planes coming to the game just made my fucking day.

bakalhau

OnLegendary86

Kyle81