<![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> Yes, games and new media thingies will be bigger.
That's probably why Fox and other established companies who see their potential customerbase dwindling are so keen to put games in a less-than-realistic 'cause of all evil' light.
But hey, luckily 'panta rhei' or something.

StartRunning

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> @GenericKen:

no the hell they don't. the game industry is only about 10 billion a year industry. The movie industry is well over 40 billion a year. you must be smoking fucking crack to say something so dumb.

GMR2008

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> Games have made more money each year than Hollywood for a while now.

Then again, if you go by their books, I make more money each year than Hollywood does.
[en.wikipedia.org]

GenericKen

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> I almost hate to say it, but I do love a great game even more than a great movie. Given the choice, I'd just play GTAIV. But I'll probably just take a break from the game and see the movie at some point.

Strangelove

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> @psgamer92:

yeah that's true but come on now for every 20 crap ass movie( mainly the 3s in recent trilogies Spiderman 3, Shrek the 3rd, X Men 3) you get a gem( No Country,Iron Man has been getting great early reviews, etc.)

Not to mention over the next couple years we have numerous movies to look foward to( Avatar, th rumored Gundam Movie, Battle Angel,Eva Angelion or what ever it's called, The Dark Knight, hell even CGI movies like toy Story 3 which may I add Toy Story 2 is one of the highest rated movies of all time).

GMR2008

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> @GMR2008:

if only they would stop making crap!

eh i got my No Country for Old Men DVD

btw i'm gonna watch Iron Man that weeked. (hopefully it'll be good)

psgamer92

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> @psgamer92:

yes I guess they're in abyss yet Hollywood is still the biggest and most profitable media form in the world over music and video games.

GMR2008

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> ya know if Hollywood wants to blame someone for the lost of thier profits they should look at themselves becasue seriousy todays movies are a bunch of CRAP (excepct for a few of course) and i think its pretty edvident in gaming to seeing as how the movie tie-in games are crap but they just wanna make a quick buck. barely anyone puts effort into movies now days. i mean the Halloween remake? utter crap. and i'm a movie buff (gamer first of course) i would get GTA4 that weekend but i won't get my 360 till August and i don't have a PS3 (i have a Wii). but yeah Hollywood is in the abyss right now

psgamer92

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> "The buzz in Hollywood, which I heard from some Hollywood folks is people are worried whether Iron Man the movie is going to get killed by Grand Theft Auto the game".

I LOVE that line. Yes, GTA4 is gonna kill (read: BUTCHER) Iron Man. then it's the whole "blame it on the video game" fiasco all over again.

Grimmjow Jeagerjaques

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> @hypermog:
Iron man is a little bit older than GTA. Granted games age differently than comic book heroes.

@Garo:
They are desperately looking for old stories, and are very eager to crap all over our childhood.

liquidnumb

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> No no really. maybe you guys should look at the the graph on SlashFilm.com from a couple weeks ago about the money made from the movie industry in 2007 compared to the game industry.

The game industry is no where near as big and will never be as big as the movie biz.

The whole Halo 3 fiasco was just plain dumb. No good movie came out when Halo 3 came out so they tried to say Halo 3 took people away from seeing the crappy Heartbreak Kid. Not to mention they tried to say the while Halo 3 made this much money on the 1st day thing.

Well when a game cost around 6 times the price of a movie ticket no to mention we can't forget the overpriced Legendary and Special Editions so why wouldn't it make more money?

Halo 3 saw lets say 8 million people while over 70 million people saw Spiderman 3 and thats not counting DVDs, VOD, or downloads.

The game industry is big but no company in the game business will ever be as big as a movie studio and the game industry will never overtake the movie industry. I mean the biggest video game company in the world is mainly a movie and television company.

So in short no GTA 4 will not stop Iron Man from getting anything. People whom were going to see Iron Man will still more than likely go see Iron Man.

GMR2008

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> I don't think there's much of a chance that Grand Theft Auto will kill Iron Man.

That game is over a decade old, after all.

hypermog

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> I dunno. I think a lot more people watch movies than buy videogames, the only reason that videogames seem like they're competing is that the premier titles cost about 5 to 6 times the price of a movie ticket.

Of course there might be hidden figures, like usually people only need one or two games per household, whereas if a family or group of friends want to go to a movie, EVERYBODY needs a ticket, so maybe it evens out.

DeBurgo

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> perhaps its because the movie industry can recreate a game's story in an interesting movie form, whereas a movie tends to include elements that don't translate well into videogame gameplay.

they haven't really figured a way to allow you to PLAY something without running, and performing actions on the environment... selecting dialogue is much less entertaining than watching a good actor say it with meaning.

so, ya.. i think thats one of the main reason that the transfer really only goes one way...

because movie games tend to be really shitty. although game movies are often pretty bad too, if you think about it.

but yah, GTAIV is definitely going to be a more momentous occation in my life than any movie of recent times.

i am going to spend indefinitely more time playing it than watching any particular movie.. so ya.. they do have THAT going for them.

joelface

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> Aside Halo 3 and GTA IV, i don't think there's another game this generation that will really affect box office

reptile168

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> Hollywood counts the opening weekend box-office numbers as one of the ways a movie is "successful". Iron Man will make money, especially from DVD sales, but if it opens the week of a monster title like GTAIV then it will take a kick in the nuts. Something it wouldn't have to worry about a few years ago.

coalhalo

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> @steliosco:

"thank god is failing"

What are you talking about?

Vecha

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> @rabidkeebler: I don't get it :/

and also does "MORE interest in making movies of games" only revolve around Uwe Boll?

I fear for the Hollywood industry. I really do.

Ichidou

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> This is what i think

"Niko Bellic does Grand Theft Armour."

rabidkeebler

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> @photoboy:
LOL good one!

Garo

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> "Not to mention that each time a new format is released you're likely to get a slight sales boost from the re-release. "

I'd hardly call that exclusive to movies. Anniversary collections, Virtual Console, NES/SNES->GBA ports, Xbox Originals, PS1/2->PSP ports...

Cypher19

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> @Garo: Yes, it will be just like that film except the murder of virtual prostitutes won't be a mystery, it will be because someone needed extra cash in GTA.

photoboy

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> My whole point was that they are separate mediums, with distinct strengths when those strengths are addressed correctly and with intelligence. I don't see games as being a convergence of mediums, but a separate medium altogether. The interactivity changes things completely. This isn't a knock on linear, structured narratives in film and literature, it's just different, and for the most part, game developers haven't found the key to depth and timelessness in the narrative that film makers and writers have. BioShock, Shadow of the Colossus, and ICO being some of the only anomolies. Of course, there is massive potential, but that won't stop me from watching great films.

SpiralJacobs

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> Well it all depends on your definition of "bigger". High profile video games have higher gross in the short term, but they tend to have a smaller audience, and are less profitable long term. A game only has to sell 1 million copies to break 50 million gross, but a film would have to sell about 5x more to do the same. So film tends to have a much larger audience still. When it comes down to profits video game profits rapidly diminish after about 6 months where as films get a new life with DVD, then again with cable/tv contracts. Not to mention that each time a new format is released you're likely to get a slight sales boost from the re-release.

jrhawk42

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> I don't think that any self-resptecting GTAIV fan is not going to see Iron Man but it will have an impact on opening week only in that people may say "I'll wait until the crowds have abated before I go and in the meantime I'll play GTAIV". Hollywood will likely watch with great interest.

A SONY exec at a games conference I went to in the late '90s drew a diagram illustrating the importance of video games compared to other intellectual properties at SONY as a function of income generation. He drew a small circle that was music, a slightley larger circle around that that was movies and television properties and a final much larger circle that represented video games.

mariospants

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> The only reason that the studio behind Iron Man are making such a big deal out the GTA IV release is to make sure they have they arse covered in case the Movie bombs.

Scenario 1
Studio Head "We lost x millions on Iron Man.. what happened"
Producer " Ahh but we warned you that GTA IV was out that week"
Studio Head " Good Point you're not fired"

Scenario 2
Studio Head "We've made x millions on Iron Man..good work"
Producer " and it was the same week GTA IV came out…So I must be good"
Studio Head " That makes sense….here you can handle next years blockbuster… Digby the worlds largest dog 2: the puppies take Manhattan."

Spandy

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> Robbotron

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> "Apparently, Riccitiello was under a rock or something when Halo 3 launched"

The difference here is that movie execs blamed Halo 3 AFTER that Ben Stiller movie did poorly, whereas we're hearing that GTA4 is being blamed BEFORE Iron Man underperforms. It may not seem like much, but there is a big difference there.

Cypher19

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> Halo 3 launched in late September Bashcraft and that 's pretty much a dead period for cinema box-office. The situation with GTA4 is much more interesting because it will be launched as studios start rolling out their summer blockbusters. Iron Man in particular that premieres first, a couple of days after GTA4 should take a pretty big hit. And this type of movies sell about half of their lifetime tickets on opening weekend so its producers have plenty to worry about...
I predict the same thing happening to the "Incredible Hulk" that premieres on, oh well, June 13th.

dionion

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> @photoboy:

Ahh yes... like in "Strange Days"?

Garo

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> In my opinion the only movies that don't suck are sci fi movies and comedy movies (e.g. matrix, austin powers). All the others are getting too predictable. Cleched story lines all the time. At list in video games there's some kind of twist. Which usually ends up in somebody being killed or giant monsters appearing. But at least video games do it in a creative way.

fadecy

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> Games IMHO are the primary future of entertainment, they are a convergence of all other types of entertainment (acting, music, writing, etc) and they also offer one thing all the other industries cannot offer: interaction.

Do you want to watch Luke Skywalker blow up the Death Star, or do you want to do it yourself? As games mature and the level of interaction between the character and the world increases I can only see films, TV, etc further receding as an entertainment platform. People won't be tuning in for their favourite soap, they'll be joining in. The future is games!

photoboy

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> @Schoolimangooli: @Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.: I thought both endings were fine. What's not to like? The ambiguity? Because that's exactly why I DID like them. Leaving questions unanswered makes the audience think.

erlik

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> @captain_laxpants: Hell I will too! Can't wait to see Robert Downey Jr. as a drunk Tony Stark!

Garo

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> phloog

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> I don't think Iron Man will do badly at the theater, because of GTA4, although the Iron Man video game maybe in a bit of trouble.

Salen

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> its just that both GTAIV and Iron Man have the same audience.

No one would be worried about No Country if pitted against GTA.

mescalineeyes

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> @Iceking5: I don't really think it's the timing I think it's more about the money.

People are gonna shell out $60 dollars for a game then go to the movies for $11 plus snacks extra $10 and if you have a date double that a family? Quadruple it.

Schoolimangooli's backpack turns into a ham sandwich!

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> If Hollywood wants to start making more video game movies, they gotta figure out how to stop butchering them.

evlyti

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> Hmm I'll probably still see Iron Man as well as buying GTAIV. Because I'm sure GTA isn't going to totally incapacitate me from going out. Perhaps if Hollywood wasn't so shit recently movies might actually be worth watching, games just exel past them in entertainment value.

holytramp

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> Hmm another 2 hour comic adaptation or 60 hours of GTA... the choice is all too clear.

Iceking5

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> exolstice

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> @Garo: true dat.
But on the other hand, I know a fair number of people who are gonna pick up GTA and watch the iron man movie. I know I will.

captain_laxpants

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> @Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.: I loved the TWBB ending I think the one from NCFOM is terrible.

Schoolimangooli's backpack turns into a ham sandwich!

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> @ SpiralJacobs: true that, but you're not getting FFX, Metal Gear Solid or Zelda from hollywood either. besides, There will be blood is a great film was a crap ending. No country for old men is better but had a crap ending too.

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> "There is more interest today from Hollywood to make movies out of our games than there is interest in our industry to make games out of their movies."

Very true lord Riccitiello /;)

N'Gai Croal said the same in the last "1UP Yours"
and I can only agree. Hollywood is looking desperatly for new stories. They don't care if it is Gaming, Comics, Children books or even their own old classics.

Garo

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> newsflash....Ironman the movie WILL get killed by GTAIV. nothing to see here people, move along, move along...

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> I just don't get it. It might make more money than Iron Man, but I plan on picking up GTAIV, and also seeing Iron Man. Movies offer a wonderful experience - I'm not going to get There Will Be Blood in videogame form, that's for sure.

SpiralJacobs

]]> <![CDATA[Games Are Bigger Than Movies? I Did Not Know]]> games are getting bigger all the time and i'm sure they will overatake movies comletely

maybe thats why m$ decided to create the
xbox as a project to steal profits from nintendo and sony that were into consoles and gaming when m$ was making windows 3.1

thank god is failing

steliosco

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