<![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> I'm looking forward to this game, and I'm hoping that Fallout will have a similarly detailed vastness, as well

Scorpi

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.: ah, I see.
Yeah, he'd go knee-up when he ran into something, but usually that something would be between you and the enemy, anyway...
I'm kind of interested that you sound like you felt the the hold-x-to-stand mechanic was actually counterproductive -- I thought it was a good way to keep you from completely blowing your cover, since crouching still had better camo index than standing. That, plus I was used to the tapping of mgs and mgs2.

not_tom_brokaw

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Sparx: If it was Official Rockstar Magazine, I'd understand your point.

DanAmrich

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> I usually hate when people point out an error in the post but... I just wonder how we got "Vast in every aspect." when the screenshot linked with the story says "Vast in every respect."

Even so, Brian > Me. So no offense of course, but I'm in QA so that's sort of my job ;)

amazinglarry

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> NOT one reviewer ever says 10 is a perfect, relax guys. 10 just means as close to perfect as can be. Or "instant classic"

Strider-No.9

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> I was so burned-out after GTA3 that Vice City and San Andreas really didn't do anything for me, and I initially felt the same about GTA4. However as more and more about the game became known my opinion and interest changed. And now with what looks to be a fairly robust and deep multi-player component I'm more fiending for its release than ever.

If the more focus narrative, larger and more realistic city and great multi-player turn true, then yes I can easily see GTA4 nabbing game of the year. Though if LittleBigPlanet lives up to its hype I think it might be a good challenger.

Replica23

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> Fucking awesome. I can't wait. This game will singlehandedly make me dust off the 360.

Strangelove

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Ryumeka:

Retail discs have likely been made for weeks now. They have to prepare for a worldwide launch, that's at least a month of manufacturing needed to fulfill all the pre-orders/extra copies.

According to a hands-on review, both games run pretty well, however the PS3 has a much better framerate, longer draw-distances, and less pop-in with its mandatory HDD install. The 360 has an optional HDD install, which does bring the gameplay smoothness to about the same level as the PS3's, but the PS3 still has a slight advantage in gameplay. But 360's getting DLC, right?

gravytoast

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @f0cus:

GTA lost you when it went 3D?

Wow. It's a sad day in gaming today.

gravytoast

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> It's safe to assume the PS3 will be equally as awesome.

Asurastrike

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @severeon: Have you played it? No ?! THEN SHUT YO MOUTH MOTHA TRUCKA !

Nexus6

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> I don't really understand the commenters who think 10 should be some unachievable pinnacle of game making. Are equally incredulous of 4 star movies? That's really a 9-point scale, since it goes down to 0 and each star can be cut in half.

Put another way, if the 1-10 scale were translated to 1-100 then 1 would be 1-10, 2 would be 11-20. . .and 10 would be 91-100. If it's "game of the year" material it really should be a 10.

Having said that, yes the official Xbox magazine is just a PR tool of Microsoft. But that's a different issue.

entr0py24

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> Actually a music magazine, "Alternative Press" already had a review for almost ?2 weeks?.

ostartero

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> 10? So they mean to inform us that this game is completely perfect. It's the epitome of all sandbox games. No flaws what so ever? Wow.

BrokeN

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> OXM has given too many 10's for this score to mean anything.

dusty_p_42

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> for the cost, and investment microsoft made in GTAIV's DLC alone, a high score in their official mag was pretty much a guarantee.

joelface

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @DigiMish:

too many nominees this year...

Akmed

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> OXM's review credibility is one of the myriad of reasons I didn't renew my already free subscription.

Even with a pricetag of $0 the mag simply wasn't worth the paper it was printed on. Writing geared at pre-teens, reviews about as credible as public bathroom poetry, and previews that read like video game mad-libs with pictures. (That and they had more subscription inserts than Wired, hard to believe I know.)

That they're publishing the "FIRST!" review of GTA IV tells me nothing has changed in the last six months, and that the world is truly upside down when a well written and produced mag like GFW can't sustain a print entity while despite their own uselessness, OXM manages to pollute newsstands each and every month unabated.

stranger

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @JibbyJam: around late-1997, actually. Just skip over the walls_of_text and you'll spot the old faithful.

rainofwalrus

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Cruithne: You base this on the PS2 versions, which were extremely limited to the hardware.

None of us have played the next-gen version, but they look to improve on ALL of those features, while still adding an insane amount of realism.

jynxycat

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @PapaBear434:Just like every other cross platform title. ;)

Mr.SithNinja

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> So the 360 is a perfect 10, how about the PS3 now...

reptile168

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> Does GTA have the best graphics?

Nope.

Does it have the best shooting mechanics?

Nope

Does it have the best driving?

Nope.

So how can it be considered a 10?

I mean duh!

But hang on there children, let's not be too hasty.
See there's this little thing called synergy, that's when the whole is greater than the sum total of the parts, got that?
No?

Sorry, this conversation's just for those who understand such things, move along...fan boi forums thataway____>

Cruithne

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @DigiMish: How can you say that without A: Playing the game that you are bestowing the honor to or B: Playing any of the other titles that could contend for it that come out later this year? Pull your head out man!

Mr.SithNinja

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> You know what this thread needs? More people who didn't like previous GTA games telling us they aren't looking forward to this one.

Ess

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> Duh! GTAIV will seem like a ten to anyone who liked the previous ones. All this Halo 3/OXM hate is stupid.

RonJeremy4Pres

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> I was expecting it to be this great. Hopefully it lives up to to this review.

Also...fan bois need to die now. Why are we even discussing companies in a GTA review thread?

Benjamin Linus

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> It's usually in my character to try and at least play a little bit of something the press is going mad for. However, GTA has always been the exception to that rule for me. I never liked the franchise's desire to try and be a shooter/racer/action/everything else. In the past, it's done a lot of things pretty well, but a jack of all trades it is not. With that said, I still DO mean to check out this latest iteration, based solely on the glowing previews I've read. Hell, I actually really WANT to like this game, and I hope I do after I spend a bit of time with it.

ThisCharmingMan

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> As with most Xbox 360 games, I expect its average score to be higher than the PS3 version.

M

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> NocturnOwl357

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> Because they're getting DLC and the PS3 isn't.

Frank

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> Hmm, whenever I hear something like 'Incredible in every respect' I get sick to the stomach.

Something about the failure to criticize, or notice a single flaw in a game reeks of terrible critiqing.

I'm not saying they have to be assholes, I'm sure the game is very, very good, but it sounds sounds fishy to me.

theALLseeingEYE

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> jeffwhit

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @-MoarPlz-:

What?

OXM actually had made fun of the RROD several times...

Vecha

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> JibbyJam

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Kermi:
OK THAT'S IT, NOW YOU'VE UNLEASHED A CAN OF WORMS.

We all know this game was made for the PS3! Because the DualAxis SixShock controller I'll be using was crafted by Thor himself to play GTA games, I KNOW I'll have the superior experience. Our lord and savior Jesus Christ has touched it with his devine presence and the blubeam disc it's on will only improve it... somehow.

Your sound logic has no place here, Kermi - this is a place of blind bias and ad hominems.

stupidfanboy

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> Lazlo

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> I couldn't be more excited if I'd just found out I was adopted, and Santa Clause was my real dad.

Cruithne

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> I subscribe to that rag. I only get it because I like having my demos backed up on disk to save myself hard drive space. The magazine itself is almost like one of the adver-mags, where they tell you the good stuff about each game. The only games that get panned are the small releases. Big releases (especially cover games) get smootchy bum kisses all over them. Although they are getting a lot better lately, for instance Turok was the cover game last month and only got 7.0 out of ten. However, as for them being an OFFICIAL mag, they are just a 3rd party mag that microsoft bought. They don't have any special insight or inside info from microsoft that any other magazine doesn't have. I know this because of the huge glaring mistakes they have made in their articles. For example, in one issue they told a reader that microsoft 'wouldn't roll that way' when the reader wrote in to complain about the Live arcade DRM issues. Then two months later they had to print a retraction after they got an avalanche of hate mail. They also make wistful what if statements that make me think the editors are literary and media majors who don't know that much about games because their wishes are impossible to achieve for technical reasons and if they knew the basics about game systems they would have already known that.

GOLD5

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> I agree. PS3 or Xbox 360, this game's gonna take in millions and millions of dollars. And in about 3 years, all GameStops will stockpiled with them in the used aisle because broke 14 year olds wanna trade it in for MGS4 or COD4, whatever.

I'm actually glad that the once under-average PSX title became this huge, blockbuster series. I will be picking this game up, but for the 360 (DLC...I mean, come on).

This game deserves its 10. As always.

Sigma-D

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @mva5580: The thing about people saying they gave it a 10 is that they actually didn't. OXM US gave Halo a 10. But OXM UK, the guys who wrote this review, gave Halo 3 a 9. So that just renders it all moot.

Zeliard

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @okenny :): Yeah, OXM UK waxed poetic about the game in the review. That's why I don't think people should just be looking at the score when the review is filled with detail, particularly some really cool anecdotal bits that were unique to their experience. This was one of my favorites of those:

"It wasn't until I was fleeing a government drug bust with a boot full of Colombia's finest - and thus unable to ditch the car - that I twigged that setting the tyres on fire (by driving through the flaming wreckage of a luckless agent) meant that they burst after a while, and a car with two burst tyres is not the sort of thing you should use to escape a three-star wanted rating. Although if you do pull it off, the sense of victory is all the sweeter when the final mission cinematic shows you pulling up in a car riddled with bullet holes with the blood of the previous owner spattered across the windscreen."

That had me at "fleeing a government drug bust".

High-res scans here:

[cid-3085454822782b0d.skydrive.live.com]

Zeliard

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Kermi: And this man dominates.

mva5580

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> How many more people are going to comment about Halo 3 getting a 10 before they go back and realize that in this rating system 10 is NOT the highest? 11 is, and they even acknowledge themselves that it'll never happen because no game is perfect. Their number system is different just for the sake of being different.

Anyway, this game absolutely should be great and expectations are justifiably high. It was so good on the previous systems therefore you just expect the quality to be through the roof with new technology.

But for me, there are so few games that really bring me in to the experience and just be totally engrossed to where I HAVE to finish it. The Halo games just don't do it for me, I played it 3 times and got rid of it. And the MGS games, while I do think they're pretty good, are almost to the point of over the top in terms of their cutscenes, storytelling, etc.

There have been a very few limited amount of games this generation that just make me say "wow" and engross me in the experience. Bioshock is one, Call of Duty 4 is another. And all of the big-name Wii games are fantastic just because they're so damn fun.

There are huge expectations for GTAIV, and rightfully so. I personally am looking for an experience to match Vice City, as that was definitely my favorite of the previous games. I know I'll enjoy it, but it takes a special game for me to really say "wow" and marvel at its greatness.

mva5580

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Kermi: Yeah!

& Fear Factory still rocks!

I Spit On Your Comments

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Kermi:

God bless you.

Xylophone

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> Gamers really need to learn to start taking a more realistic view towards things. Instead of hardwiring one's self to believe every time you see a 10 or 100% or A+ or what ever the cap is on a rating scale to think it means perfect, one needs to start seeing it as the best-of-breed rating. This simply means for a given type of game experience, this is the best thing available in the current ecology of gaming. This doesn't mean it's without bugs because, after all, one doesn't measure their experience with a game by the number of bugs we encounter or the number of pixels in the frame buffer. One measures a gaming experience by various element of enjoyment and fulfillment experienced in that game. Reviews are of course a purely subjective value of this measurement and at the end one just have to build up a list of sources they trust.

okenny :)

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> seafisch

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> HALO 3 GOT A TEN AND OH MAN WHAT A PIECE OF SHIT I GUESS THAT MEANS GTA4 WILL BE SHIT TOO UNLESS IT'S THE PS3 VERSION WHICH WILL SHIT CANDY FLAVOURED BUTTERFLIES.

Now that I've summarised what every fucking post in this thread has been so far, can't we just look forward to the game? We're talking about a multiplatform game that will, by all accounts, run identically on both powerhouse consoles with beautiful visuals and the only fundamental differences are going to lie in which controller you're holding. There will be some differences like the wind tunnel disc drive noise drowning out the game soundtrack for the Xbots, and a four-hour required install for the Failstation owners, but we need to accept that we're all failures at life and move on.

The story, characters, settings and gameplay will be the same. The only difference is that Microsoft has some additional content (LOLOLOL M$ HAS TO BUY EXCLUSIVES) and apart from vague references to the additional episodes being in the same sort of scope as Vice City was to the original GTA3, we really don't know how that's going to pan out.

Whatever disc we take home on launch day, we're going to enjoy the same gaming experience. So far, all indications are that it's going to be an awesome one.

Kermi

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> 10??? Out of 20 maybe?

TehBoj

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @VishusBurn: 10 doesn't equal 100%. Different scoring systems. Not that they're anything but silly anyway.

@Sigma-D: Because the reviewer probably thought it was fantastic.

I'm very excited about this game now. If I had a lemon that every time I got excited I threw a hamster at, I'd have thrown almost a thousand hamsters over this game.

TearsandScreams

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> Well, I guess its worth saying that I retract my statement; GTA4 is totally worth a 10/11. My mistake, didn't know about the 1-11 thing.

severeon

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> How much more vague can you be?

Amazingly realistic world, stunning action pieces, vast in every way.

How about the combat and framerate and animations. I'd love to know about these please!

terrydwj

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> there's no such thing as a perfect game.. a " 10/10" does not exist.
there is always room for improvement..

but still... i'm so gonna pull some all nighters on this game..

vln

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Zeliard: Give it up. They're going to counter your argument with "They did that to deceive people into a false sense of legitimacy". The type that likes to call out magazines like OXM or GFW as been Microsoft whores are the same type wo don't understand the idea behind licensing a name for a magazine or business in general. They are also the type that will lock on to a target of hate (Microsoft in this case) and hate everything else they perceive to be associated with them. They are idiots and you can't make an idiot understand... that's why they're idiots in the first place. I admire you putting the truth out there though.

okenny :)

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Zeliard:
It's good to see people who may not have been interested in the GTA series before now getting more into it. I think a lot of people may have had hangups with the other versions for good reasons (although I've enjoyed them all since GTA 1 - maybe my simple lust for violence?).

I don't think GTA games have ever been "overrated", because they provide so much entertainment, especially once you become really good at them and can just dick around while doing awesome stunts and getting into crazy firefights.

stupidfanboy

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Sigma-D: Well, it's one of those knee-jerk reactions. It happens a lot - with movies (Episode I), music (Kanye West's latest album) with games as we see...reviewers get so excited and sometimes buy into the hype, which affects their scores.

It takes a good reviewer to sit back and look at the game in a completely dispassionate way. It might not be the most popular review, but it will stand the test of time.

Halo 3 - definitely not a 10. It was very, very good - but not perfect.

Spoony Bard

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @ not_tom_brokaw: if snake comes up against an object at a certain angle...he won't just stop crawling. he automatically go knee up. my bad, i did type stand up didn,t i? also, if you hold the x button instead of pressing it snake will automatically stand up.

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> Remember this was not the final copy of the game.

Any bugs they reported on are most likely going to be fixed before they start making retail discs.

Ryumeka

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @ Kyle81: like oblivion which i've always believed was overrated. the game almost never runs at a smooth framerate on ps3 or 360. it has texture pop in, graphical glitches, suspect animation and some of the dumbest AI i've seen.

case in point, i was walking on a trail at night and this weird red light came up suddenly. i stray from the trail a bit and it was a oblivion gate. i was like 'oh shit'. i played through Morrowind and knew exactly what the deal was with daedra and oblivion. fortunately there was a guard on horseback just up the trail. as the demons from the gate are chasing me, the guard is approaching. does he see the demons? no. does he see the gate? no. does he see the red light and ominous clouds that rolled in with the gate? no. he strolls by on his horse like it was sweet. his horse didn't even react to the craziness. total bullshit. i gave up after a few hours because it just got worse.

in Morrowind, if you even thought about going into a Daedra temple, your character had to be diesel or you weren't making it out alive. when oblivion had me go into a oblivion gate in the first hour or so, i thought 'what the hell is this'? Daedra temples are like oblivion gate warmups and THEY were dangerous. people fell in love with the graphics. but the game is broken. when you are forced to play in 1st person because 3rd person looks and runs like dirt with terrible animations and glitches ...that is not worthy of a 9 rating.

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Raikkenon: Yeah, Edge gave Halo 3 a 10/10. But OXM UK did give Halo 3 a 9/10 (or 9/11, actually, going by their scale). I think that alone should indicate that perhaps they're not the uber fanboys they're being depicted as by some people here.

What kind of an Official Xbox Magazine gives the Xbox's signature series' first foray into "next-gen" less than a perfect score? These crazy bastards, that's who. :P

Zeliard

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> unmarkedone: Hey I liked Vice City more but that's just a question of preference.

Garo

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.: The controls for MGS4 got an general overhaul and are great according to Bettenhausen from 1UP.

Garo

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @VishusBurn: Halo3 got a 10. I still don't understand why.

Sigma-D

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> Zeliard, i couldnt agree more when you said

"The truth is that I've never been all that big on GTA. This game is quite clearly something different, something much better and much improved."

Raikkenon

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @unmarkedone:

Now that I think of it, all you nubs saying "I tried San Andreas but never got into it" seriously need to go back and play that game. SA was a masterpiece in terms of story, evolving characters, mission design, and a truly living world.

unmarkedone

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Zeliard:

did Edge really give halo 10/10? "eeek"

Raikkenon

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Iceking5: From an Edge hands-on preview of the game:

We only get the opportunity to take part in a dozen or so firefights, but the confusion that sometimes clouded the action in previous GTAs has certainly been removed. In fact, these encounters are so focused and so dynamic that they feel more scripted than they actually are, like they're taking place inside the carefully funneled, closely governed spaces of other games, not as part of this procedurally driven city sprawl.

The lock-to-objects cover system (and its blind-firing mechanic) also builds a new dimension into GTA IV's combat, and comes into its own when you're able to piece together a strategy on the fly and, say, make use of a car that's just been turned over in front of you as a shield, since you can lock to dynamic objects, too, not just static items such as concrete walls. It is GTA, but it is GTA elevated to a different level, and in concert with some of the game's other bold innovations it stands up as, dare we say it, what the term 'next generation' is supposed to mean.

The truth is that I've never been all that big on GTA. This game is quite clearly something different, something much better and much improved.

Anyone who knows anything about Edge knows they don't mince words.

Zeliard

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> heretrix

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> They gave Halo 3 a 10? jesus , what the fuck.

now i dont trust this 10 as much as Halo 3 was honestly the most over hyped piece of garbage in gaming history

Raikkenon

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> GTA has had control issues overlooked for several games, don't see how this will be too different.

Iceking5

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> I guarantee this game gets a 10/10 in whatever Official PlayStation Magazine review comes out and I doubt we see many lower than 9/10 so everyone crying about some MS conspiracy can just simmer down. I'm inclined to believe the game is just that good, regardless of platform.

Gray665

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> Heh, as a matter of fact, OXM UK (these same guys) actually gave Halo 3 a 9/10. Perhaps that will end this.

Zeliard

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> I haven't looked at any of the scans, I want to be surprised by the things I don't already know.

All I'm sure of is if GTA4 is half as good as San Andreas, I won't be doing much in May.

unmarkedone

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @cheeses: Edge Magazine also gave Halo 3 a 10/10. Does anybody accuse them of being soft?

Zeliard

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.: OXM did point out some negatives, but they just basically said they were relatively inconsequential in the big scheme of things:

"Rockstar was still making the final tweaks as I played, so I can't say whether my minor grumbles - the cover system stumbling in box-filled environments, slightly over-enthusiastic target lock-on, the occasional pop-up - will be present in the box you buy in two weeks' time. But even if they are, it's not enough to stop this being a game that you really should experience, because it raises the bar for all the others you'll play this year."

Zeliard

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> They'll give a 10 to any game that looks at them the right way. They gave Halo 3 a 10 for godshake.

But yeah, I guess this'll score pretty high on metacritic in the long run. Rockstar've fixed everything that broke the last few GTA games for me so that ought to mean something, right?

cheeses

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.: I hope you're not using an actual example, because there's been no way for Snake to stand up "automatically."

not_tom_brokaw

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @rainofwalrus: 'cause the ps3 version goes to 11, duh.

not_tom_brokaw

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @ Raikkenon: MGS3 doesn't deserve a 10 as an example. even though Snake has a lot of moves at his disposal, controlling him in delicate situations is not intuitive at all. it's a chore and can become maddening when you have to restart a mission for the 10th time because Snake stood up automatically, getting spotted when you wanted him to crawl past a tree. i don't care how great the story and presentation are (MGS3 has one of the best stories of its type) good controls are crucial. MGS3 deserved a 8.5 IMO. if MSG4 has the same counter-intuitive control scheme, then i'd lower a review score one point just for that.

I feel the same about GTA4. Rockstar isn't some rookie developer and neither is kojima studios. live up to the name and polish the hell out of the game. graphics, presentation AND controls and camera manipulation. this isn't the case with many games that get high scores.

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.: Thats the thing, most big hyped titles get free passes when it comes to the little things. Another review will pick apart the games issues and cut points off for each, but a big name title like this is just going to ignore that all for the big review score.

Kyle81

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Iceking5: Precisely why I've been telling people to read the review. OXM wrote 9 pages and people are concentrating on a single number.

Zeliard

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Tyber_Zann: why not just make the PS3 version's 10 louder?

rainofwalrus

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Sparx: @elevenoverzero: @f0cus:

I guess the daily dose of hate is right on times guys. Thanks for your support!

I wont be surprised if the average score for this game is over 97%. It definitely brings a value proposition only matched by games like Halo, Oblivion, and a few other games. It seems we will get our money's worth.

okenny :)

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> "But what my main point was is that I simply don't think they gave it a 10/10 because it's also appearing on the 360. I think they gave it a 10/10 because it's just that good."

No, its 10/11. OXM grades on 11 point scale.

Rendon

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Zeliard: Just further underlines the ambiguity of review scores

Iceking5

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Garo: Oh I definitely think they'll sell more magazines, and that's probably what they're most getting out of this. I don't see the 360 itself benefitting too much, but hey, we'll see what the numbers say.

And like someone pointed out earlier, OXM doesn't actually consider 10/10 a perfect game (it's ultimately an issue of semantics, as 10/10 is technically a perfect score). Their scale:

11: Perfect

The unicorn. Will never happen. Never.

10: Classic

One of those rare and very best of games. Every Xbox gamer simply must buy it and play it, whether or not they're a fan of the genre.

They consider GTA4 a classic, rather than perfect. Considering how many of the hands-on previews alone have echoed a similar sentiment, I don't think it's over-the-top.

Zeliard

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Iceking5: You're damn right :)

tshack

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @ Candlejack: thats why i'm skeptical. other GTA games received high scores but had issues that damned other titles. issues like suspect camera control and targeting, bad character models and animation. of course, with todays technology many of these issues should be fixed but then again...getting a consistent framerate should't be that hard with todays technology but it is. we'll see...i'm not going to get moist just because it's GTA and some review monkey gave it a 10. i need to play it for myself.

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> isn't this like the 4th 10 that oxm has given out? :\

sc00t420

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> i guess its like sony mag giving MGS a 10/10

Raikkenon

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> Couldn't it just be that the game is actually good rather than a marketing push? I highly doubt people wouldn't buy this game if it got an 8.5 or whatever. I think people should stop taking scores so seriously. You can't really define an experiance by a score. 10/10 just means it was a truly great experiance.

Ssee this is why when I do video reviews I don't gives scores. I let people judge the game for them selves not by some stupidly calculated score. If you score things with numbers people start bitching.

fadecy

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @tshack: Oh I see fanboyism never dies at Kotaku.

Iceking5

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Zeliard:
Hey I don't say that the game is bad or that it is overrated. I just think that OXM did this on purpose. And I bet that PSM will give it a similar score. I know the "MS conspiracy" think sounds quite silly... somehow. But still if it isn't about MS conquering the EU ;) I can still see OXM selling more of their magazine than normally due to this review.


Garo

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> perfect 10? we'll see. but who would have the balls to say anything negative against GTAIV? negatives in other review favorites went ignored in favor of sheep mentality. we'll see...

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> Holy shit! The Xbox mag. giving the most hyped game this year for their system (well maybe next 2 years for their system)a 10?! What a surprise...Man I can't wait to see those stunning action set pieces and genuinely engrossing storyline and all that vast in every respect. Old NP needs to make a comeback

tshack

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> I wouldn't say 10/10 is perfect, but rather the closest a game can get to being perfect. If games had to be perfect to get a 10, none would.

@elevenoverzero:
The same could be said of all gaming publications.

Demaar

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> also OXM gave Bioshock a 10...It was a good game but worthy of a 10? Nahhh..Maybe a 9

thegr33n1

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @DigiMish:

On the 360, yes. On the PS3, it will be declared somehow inferior due to imaginary lag spikes or pretend graphical slow down.

PapaBear434

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> The GTA series has always been one of my favourites. I enjoyed every one of them and none of the copycat games come close in my opinion.

Unfortunatly, I have neither a 360 or a PS3 so I have two choices: buy one of them or wait for the PC port months down the line.

*starts searching under the sofa for coins

MasterDex

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Cozwic: Supposed to. Such as climbing telegraph poles and fire escapes too.

Mr.C

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Raikkenon:
Well, I think in that case it was EA that fucked MS. MS gets a timed exclusive and then EA screws it up with the price... Hell Moore do something! With this action the whole advantage of the lowered X360 price went down the drain.


Garo

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Garo: OXM putting out a review first certainly doesn't hurt the 360, since it can let some people know it's also coming out for 360 and that it's getting DLC, but the PS3 is so much more popular in Europe that I just don't think it'll ultimately matter. I don't think people are going to be converted to the 360 in the UK or the rest of Europe by a multiplat. Not to mention I don't think MS is making many friends over there with the whole Rock Band fiasco.

But what my main point was is that I simply don't think they gave it a 10/10 because it's also appearing on the 360. I think they gave it a 10/10 because it's just that good.

The detailed 9-page review, IMO, effectively justifies the score. You can't read that review and tell me it doesn't read like a 10/10; the reviewer's excitement is palpable. They only mentioned the 360's exclusive DLC in a small panel off to the side on one of those pages, and every review is going to mention that (except perhaps PSM). The rest is spent fawning over the game itself, the exact same game the PS3 is getting.

Zeliard

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> I'm excited about this version of GTA but I don't think I played the last version at all. Maybe the included multiplayer is adding to the anticipation for me.

Adam In Texas

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> 10's aren't that uncommon...Remember The Legend Of Windwaker for the Game Cube...Everyone was giving it 10's!

thegr33n1

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> Because OXM has no reason to lie.

elevenoverzero

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> who cares about what a game critic says anyway? I know that GTAIV is going to be great, just ask any gamer around you.

foxwarrior88

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> Tetelestia

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> The general rule of evaluating reviews is if the review is made for a Microsoft focussed publication, the review is biased, like comon. If it comes out for a Sony Magazine, it's a truthful review. That's the only way it works in this universe, yep.

Iceking5

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Garo:

dont think so mate, we haven't even got rock band in the uk yet, and when we do we get fucked for 3x the price the US does.

so far MS has been pretty 'meh' on the UK

Raikkenon

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> yea i was actually pretty pissed off when i found out mario galaxy wasn't an exact replica of the real galaxy.

Raikkenon

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Zeliard:
Because it is one of Microsofts chances to take marketshare from Sony in the EU. GTA has always been a System-mover for Sony and as we both know there are still enough PS2 owners sitting on the fence. Also the UK is the last stronghold for MS in the EU they will do anything possible to hold that ground.

Don't you find it curious that it is OXM that has a the first review and not eurogamer who is the largest "independent" gamingwebsite in the EU?


Garo

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @jayntampa: yeah, Mario Galaxy wasn't an replica of the real Galaxy but it still got top marks from most reviews... goes to show what some people think makes a good game I guess...

f0cus

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @mike566:

Oops.

[oxmonline.com]

mike566

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Garo: And GTA4 is different, how exactly?

Zeliard

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> m$ must invest a lot in gta4 ;)

steliosco

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> OXM uses a scale of 1-11, so 10 is not perfect. Just wanted to clarify.

[oxmonline.com]-MoarPlz-:
Please read the magazines before you say stuff like this.


mike566

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Zeliard:
They didn't need to give Crackdown a better score "because" it featured the Halo 3 beta! They knew it would sell like hotcakes.


Garo

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> Candlejack

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> 10 =/= perfect

Intangible_360

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> OXM is an independant magazine that just happens to have licensed the Xbox name from Mircrosoft. They are not beholden to MS to give games good scores. Besides GTA IV is cross platform.

@KingBroly: Have you played through the storyline of GTA IV? Didn't think so.

@severeon: Only about 16% of all the Halo 3 reviews gave it less than a 90% rating. It's not just OXM who liked the game. They aren't paid by Microsoft either.

@VishusBurn: Why bother having a 10 if no one can get it? Doesn't that just make a 9.9 into a 10? Besides, reviews shouldn't be written in stone. They should be relative to the other games out at the time. If GTA IV is the best possible game at the time then it deserves a 10. Just as Call of Duty 4 deserved a 10.

Agies

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @VishusBurn: OXM give every other game a 10. I think the lowest score they give is 8 or 9...

Starting to marvel at the hype of this title. GTA lost me when it went 3D...

f0cus

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Sparx:
I'll agree with you to a point. I don't think MS needs to give this game high score to sell 8 million copies (or whatever the estimate is now), but it certainly won't hurt to add coals to hype train's engine. Regardless, it's going to be a console mover (both PS3 and 360)

stupidfanboy

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @pot3ntial2suck: So, the only way a game can get a 10 is if it equals real life? That's not very realistic, is it?

The purpose of a game is fun ... if you enjoy the game with no drawbacks or deficits, a 10 can fit.

jayntampa

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Cozwic: Yes, look for the multiplayer preview

geoffcbassett

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Sparx:
Very good point and I absolutely agree!


Garo

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Sparx: GTA4 is going to sell massively regardless. Pre-orders all over the place are basically full. Do you really think an OXM UK review is going to have that much of an impact?

The 360's install base is primarily in the United States, and Europe loves the PS3 a lot more than the 360. An OXM UK review of a multiplat that the PS3 is also getting isn't going to change that. They're still reviewing the exact same game that the PS3 is getting, and they actually mentioned "occasional pop-up" as one of the few gripes in the review, and everyone knows how people nitpick over the most minute of graphical differences between the two systems (to the extent that it sometimes influences which version they purchase).

I believe that OXM UK also gave the 360 exclusive Crackdown a 7/10. Or maybe that was OXM US. Either way, just goes to show that you can't always take things at face value (don't forget that Crackdown featured the Halo 3 beta, so it would've been in OXM's best intentions to give it a strong score).

Zeliard

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> Unless you can walk into every floor of every building and go through every office and see people populating each floor of each skyscraper in a realistic way (janitors cleaning, employees making phone calls, empty at night), then this perfect score is completely and utterly ridiculous.

I might pick this game up despite getting too bored to finish any previous GTA, but the hype machine is in full-force with this perfect review.

pot3ntial2suck

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> ca$h

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Zeliard:

But thats my whole point, MS NEEDS GTA to sell. Aside from the possibility of GoW2 what else have they really got this year that will compete? MS doesn't want to see their competition gain any more ground than they already have which is probably why theirs is the first review out the door.

Sparx

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Sparx: GTA4's storyline is supposed to be a huge break from past GTA games; it's supposedly much grittier and far more realistic. It is after all, deep-down, the story of an immigrant trying to adapt to a new world, in alien surroundings.

Zeliard

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> I think my head just exploded

Raikkenon

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> Off course GTAIV got a 10 from OXM... cough marketing! cough...

Garo

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> This is insane..I cant believe how excited I am for this game. It saddens and awesomates me at the same time...thats right, awesomates.

Skitzoap

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @KingBroly: I didn't finish GTA III & Vice City, so I can't speak for those, but I'd disagree with you as far as San Andreas went. Elements of gang warfare, corrupt cops, CIA coverups, music industry shenanigans and even alien activity all added up to a storyline that I couldn't put down. Which is probably the reason it's the only 3-D GTA that I've finished...

Just like the series' graphics, GTA seems to make big strides in storytelling with each new installment too, which means IV's story will likely even be better than San Andreas'. Can't wait for the 29th!

kidjesus

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> DigiMish: I'll buy either a ps3 or a xbox just to play this game. However, we still have MGS4 coming this year so I think it might be a little early to nominate any GOTY.

bonecows

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @KingBroly:

I agree. GTA doesn't have bad story lines, but engrossing? Hardly...

Sparx

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Sparx: GTA4 is more far more likely to push PS3s than it is 360s. The general public generally identifies GTA more with the Playstation brand, as it didn't come to Xbox till much later, and it also didn't sell nearly as much there as it did on the PS2.

Plus, with games like MGS4 coming out quite soon and other heavy-hitters later on in the year, there's an added incentive in purchasing a PS3 now.

OXM isn't doing the 360 any particular favor by giving it a perfect score, considering those circumstances.

Zeliard

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> I've run out of adjectives to describe how excited I am for this.

ShaggE

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> So, when OXM gives a game a '10' its 'perfect'? What about Halo 3? They gave it a ten, when just about anyone who is not paid by Microsoft knows it's an 7.5-8.5 at best.

What I am getting at is that since MS paid for the extra content, they are kinda forced into giving it a great score. I would not be surprised if the game was honestly an 8.

severeon

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Mech_Master: I must agree a lil bit. I like the other games but never truly loved them. I do play alot more San Andreas than any of the previous versions but I think that is by default since it offered the most of the first two PS2 versions. I like the rpg elements of the game. So I am really looking foward to the latest endevour which is GTA IV....

JorgieX

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> Oh God yes.

Not that I had my doubts, but this just made my morning. I'm gonna go brag about this to everyone at work!

Here's hoping the PS3 version gets a score of 11.

/obligatory fanboy comment

Tyber_Zann

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Zeliard:

Well come on, do you think they're really going to badmouth one of the most highly anticipated games of the year? One that will potentially move systems no less? At this point its just creative writing.

Sparx

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> Engrossing story? That's not a word I'd use to describe GTA storylines. Microsoft needs to stop trying to promote how great the series is. This is how they do it for all multiplatform games. Just look at Devil May Cry 4 and how much they propped that thing up.

KingBroly

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> Did anybody ever play that Vice City mod, the Multi Theft Auto one. That was great.

Lockenator

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> It's very rare when a game lives up to expectations but it sounds like GTA4 is going to be one of those few.Let's hope that the PS3 version can generate as many good reviews as the 360 version seems set to.

Just over two weeks to go.:)

Sugaray

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]>

I forgot the the city was Algonquin! The real ones is inhabited by Moose and chipmunks. I have a feeling there will be more roadkill in the GTA version.
[en.wikipedia.org]

Cojo21

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> Well that score was predictable. I think it's a safe bet that there will be a chain of other perfect and near-perfect scores, with the odd 4 or 5 out of ten from late reviewers who need to slate the game to get their hit count up.

IronsUK

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @VishusBurn: OXM UK wrote a 9-page review of the game, and in my estimation, the score is justified in the review. They go into great detail about what makes the game so good.

Here's a link with some high-res scans:

[cid-3085454822782b0d.skydrive.live.com]

If you feel they're too big, use Firefox with an Image Zoom extension to zoom out.

Zeliard

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> I think we should ban that review for shouting "First!" like a wanker.

I kid. I'm excited for this game. GTA multiplayer is going to rock. Never played the PC multiplayer stuff.

Cojo21

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> I tend to stay away from Official Magazines, mainly because they often shit all over the other consoles and spout stupid theories.
The game sounds great, but y'know I'm still with the idea that the ratings system of most sites/magazines is seriously flawed with the scoring aspect.

Lockenator

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> I doubt it perfect, but I'm sure it's a good game. I'm not too big on reviews anyway.

Sugarbloodsuckers

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> Can you climb ladders in this one? No seriously, I didn't care how bad San An looked, I didn't care that I lost my previous saved game because of that stupid Hot Coffee thing, I was pissed when I found a ladder and I couldn't climb it. THAT is one of the few ways GTA 4 (screw the romans) can be better in MY book.
Still getting it even if it doesn't, I'll just be a little ticked.
~Peace~

Cozwic

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> I'm not buying the score until some impartial reviewers put a grade on it. Being from the "Official" xbox magazine just doesn't seem to scream legit

Sparx

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> Pc release please! I cannot afford a console :( wonder how long it will take

rabbitsoup_87

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> I'm looking forward to this game as much as the next guy, but a 10?
10 is supposed to be reserved as an unreachable point on the grading scale.
A point of perfection with little to no room for improvement.
It's going to be mighty tough to live up to that rating.

VishusBurn

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> Nevermind, just noticed it's the UK edition.

PeterBeck

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> @Mech_Master:
Shame, cause they were very fap-worthy.

Is it normal for subscribers to get OXM a month in advance? Because the newest issue, as in it just came out last week, is not this one, but rather one that features a preview of GTA IV's multiplayer modes.

PeterBeck

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> 2008 > 2007.

Jnas

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> Sounds great, but then again the rest of the gaming industry fapped over all of the last gen ones, which I never liked at all.

Mech_Master

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> I never trust the 10 reviews, but really, it's a new GTA game. It doesn't follow scoring systems. 11 out of 10.

BlackDove

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> What do you guys think? I say GOTY.

DigiMish

]]> <![CDATA[Yes, Yes, The *First* Grand Theft Auto IV Print Review]]> Cool. Now we have to build shelters for the avalanche of awesome-ness that will engulf us all in about 2 weeks.

MasterOfPastures

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