As a fellow 360 owner, I can tell you
it's not going to work, the 360's audience wouldn't welcome it with open arms, no developer is going to take the risk on this system with those controls based on high development costs for games already, and the system just doesn't have the market for motion controls.

Nintendo did it right, and when Nintendo takes the next big step, and makes a new system with HD capabilities, and improved motion controls, and the graphics at where it's at now...it's just going to be Nintendo standing.

There's no more room for graphical improvement and making systems that costs developers more than 50% the worth of their own company to develop.
Nintendo in the next generation will have made the system with the HD graphics, the motion controls, the traditional play, and possibly an even better online experience.

Yes, this whole little rant right here may seem a bit fanboyish, but from the looks of things...it's how it's going to end up. Sony tried motion controls...and it didn't work as well for them, but they've their market to tend to, as does Nintendo have it's market to tend to...

But as for Microsoft,
no Japanese developer is going to take them seriously with this, and most American developers are still having trouble implementing motion controls on
Wii games without them being overly sloppy.

You don't have to look at it logically though, keep lookin' with blind eyes...but the truth is there.

Kayeliminal Antithesis

stephen70

whoayo

i could be high, but this seems like it could benefit Wii in the long run more than MS. Studios haven't exactly been tripping over themselves to build Wii-specific versions of franchises (excluding some EA and Konami titles). Getting a 360mote could make the transition a little more palatable for developers to include this technology if they know they can port their ideas to more than one system and increase the good titles coming to Wii.

jeffc76

TheTog

Murmaider

BUT it'll be interesting to see how they sell this product. You can't quite make yourself look "PRO" by imitating others...

Ultrasinc

dowingba

Oh, and remember when they said the 360 failure rate was within industry acceptable standards?!

Ah, good times, with good old Microsoft.

dowingba

Also, don't be talking down to me like that. I stated my opinion. I simply don't think go through successfully. I might be wrong. I won't mind if I'm wrong. And you can disagree with me but you don't have to go crazy like that. I know this is the internet but things can still be debated "peacefully."

So with that said let me point out what would be cool if MS did it right: HD Graphics with Metroid Prime 3 or Super Mario Galaxy type controls. Like a DMC game with motion sensing controls.

Reality (probably): XBLA or actual games put to lazy 3rd party companies with silly to stupid unresponsive gimmicky controls.

IcerDragoon

cheeses

Now to wait until the winter for this to come to fruition...or not.

Jenstar

Also, to people still calling it a gimmick, it's a gimmick that has sold millions, the Wii has sold way more than enough to be considered a success and I really don't see what bashing it is going to do, make the 360 actually SELL in Japan?

Shaoko

neozion

Niko23

TheSlayerIsBack

excel_excel

...but I fail to see how this Microsoft thing is not just an abject ripoff, assuming the Klepeck article and this new one are accurate.

I sure hope the real thing isn't like the concept...

awesomeapproved

XWonka

Samos42

BRASH

X Nubsauce X

People who actually think the Wii box itself is what makes the console popular... they're fools. It's neither the first party titles, or the hardware, or the controller, or even the price point that made the Wii a success but it's a combination of all three things (some of witch were executed poorly) that made Wii a success. So if you stack the price point of the 360 at the launch of this peripheral to that of a Wii and stack up the barrier of a game system's traditional controller. If a few convincing launch title are there, MS may have something. It's clearly to early to call or even speculate but this isn't a bad thing folks.

okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)

JorgieX

People will come around if MS really goes lets the deves get creative with this new x-mote. How many of you would jump at the chance to play Gears2 if it used 2 of these motes at the same time? Having 2 pointers really could open alot of new types of gaming concepts think about something like that before you write this off.

Gunloc

"I would love to play more FPS with Wii-mote style pointer controls."

I completely agree, if done like Metroid Prime Corruption, FPS games are sooo much fun.

I loved Metroid on Gamecube but the controls make this game so fun to play.

Now if MS added the immersion factor of the remote, not to mention accuracy for aiming + High Def graphics then I hate to say it but Nintendo would be in trouble.

I can't imagine anyone NOT wanting to play Halo with a pointing device thats as accurate as a mouse (well almost)

leeallens

Here's a link:
[en.wikipedia.org]

JorgieX

KEELr

okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)

RawSteelUT

Whats'a wrong Mr. Grumpy Fanboy?

Jac21

That sounds hilarious.

By the way, what games can they possibly market with the remote, Viva Pinata?

Jac21

MushroomSquid

The fact people go out of their way to hit the shift key and the 4 instead of just hitting the goddamn s key has gotten irksome.

ca$h

I like the idea, i just hope its used properly.

CaptainCorny

I'm actually interested in seeing where this goes. I'll probably never own one though. Oh, and getting genuinely upset that MS is ripping off Nintendo is just sad.

ca$h

You said the wii mote is "gimmicky"

is this what you mean?

Merriam webster

"

Main Entry:
1gim·mick Listen to the pronunciation of 1gimmick
Pronunciation:
\ˈgi-mik\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
origin unknown
Date:
1922

1 a: a mechanical device for secretly and dishonestly controlling gambling apparatus b: an ingenious or novel mechanical device : gadget2 a: an important feature that is not immediately apparent : catch b: an ingenious and usually new scheme or angle c: a trick or device used to attract business or attention
- gim·micky Listen to the pronunciation of gimmicky \-mi-kē\ adjective
"

leeallens

cybereality

Honestly, I think the Wii's motion controls are a bust. The Wiimote itself is a fine piece of hardware, likely its lazy or second-rate developers to blame. Even so, most games barely even support it anymore expect for "special moves" like in No More Heroes. Come on, you can't even use motion-controls in smash brothers! That tells you right there that the Wii-mote has failed. Unless that new Star Wars Unleashed really pulls it off I think we can officially call the Wii a gimmick.

cybereality

When this comes out and you buy it, I'll be sure to laugh at you when it gets the cold shoulder just as it's HD-DVD brother did and you're left in the dust with a gimmick-of-an-attachment and no Wii to play games meant to be used with motion controls. But hey, I guess you just didn't know any better.

NeoAkira

MushroomSquid

diablodevil2

chaos_isnt_here

NunianVonFuch

Microsoft doesn't really want to copy waggle, their real goal is to have a game stay on the NPD software chart endlessly by bundling the 360mote with some crappy mini-game.

Wonder if there's a 360chuck in the works too. Or have 2 360mote capabilities so that one can play Virtual On over XBLA.

kftgr

D Mitsuki

sabre2922

The smart money says that this remote will be shaped exactly to fit into the myriad plastic snap-ons already out for the Wiimote. So you know what else? I'm fucking stoked, because my consumer self says that's exactly what I wanted from my Xbox - Wii-like games and fun without having to buy another console.

One has to wonder how much cheaper the Guitar Hero controller would have been without all the extra wireless controller innards if you were just able to slot your X-mote in the back.

nih

Nintendo has a pretty solid strategy with its console pricing, in my opinion. Both the DS and the Wii vastly undercut their competitors, and print money regardless.

DuctTape

DoubleM

KingAwesome

Mit

platinum

Kovitlac

Gamecube provided more power which went ignored by far too many third parties, a disc based console (finally) GBA/GC connectivity which could have been great but turned out gimmicky, A true wireless solution that provided great battery life and great distance (30 feet was the farthest I've heard)
GC also had the broadband adaptor which was a big waste of time but it was there. So yeah, all told GC was more incremental but 64 brought much more change while being one of Nintendo's less sucessful platforms.

Wii on the other hand, as much as I hate the library and the graphic capability, has brought more to gaming in 10 years than any other company. LIVE doesn't count because PC owners were already enjoying what LIVE offers for well over a decade and for free. No other company has been able to not only change the controller in such a drastic way but to make it work with mainstream titles and casual games to the tune of billions of dollars in sales. Love it or hate it, Wii has changed the industry across the board along with the DS (let's not forget about that). I still play my PS3 more than my Wii but Metroid Prime 3 was no gimmick. the controls on that game were so good I stopped using lock on unless I was fighting bosses and had to hit specific areas in awkward positions. (usually amid weapon fire or explosions or such)

WiiSports specifically, Wii bowling and tennis and to some lesser degree, boxing provides gameplay you can't match on any other console anywhere.

So yeah...Wii may be a dog's lunch to many a gamer, but we have to be honest with ourselves and see that the industry has to evolve. Whether this evolution is for better or worse...well...we'll see now won't we

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

Strangelove

Spartan1308™

pyropetey

But where does it stop? The Wiimote is nothing more than a television remote control for video games. Is that not "copying" to some extent as well? Nintendo didn't invent video games, so they took that idea and expounded upon it. And then you can say Microsoft and Sony are just copying Nintendo/Sega by even releasing video game systems. I mean if anything I'd think Nintendo would be more aggravated with Sony/MS releasing a whole video game system than just imitating a controller idea.

I understand your whole "copying" argument but without some sort of imitation, where would competition be? SOMEONE has to create an original idea, and then other companies just take it from there and tweak it to their particular desires. Imagine if the ONLY products on the market where those products created only by their original creator. Is that right?

mva5580

But you just know it won't happen like that. Fuck no. If there's a chance to lumber us with yet another controller to clutter up our drawers and cupboards for big profit margins then Microsoft will surely take it. My imagination be damned, for we're most likely to see them expecting £39.99 out of us for something most of us already have from Nintendo if we're at all interested in motion-controlled gaming interfaces anyway.

Grumble.

aesthetis

I was blocked unfairly.

I miss the good ol' days of hardcore gaming when it was niche' and not the "too many people want to be down, but don't have a clue" industry it is today

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

Eon.

MS has claimed all along that the 360 is about choice. Offering a motion-sensing controller just enhances the choices. If you don't want it, don't buy it. If it works well I will buy it in a heartbeat and then sell my Wii to someone who doesn't know any better.

bornonce

Really, it's what our culture derives from, patents, copyrights, intellectual property etc. People DONT want their stuff copied then used as a route to success when "they made it first."

In the end though, it'll be as it always has, new ideas are culminations of the old but there should be a line drawn for things like blatant attempts to copy... like this ;D

It's shameless don't you think? I mean the Vii came u- I mean the Wii came up with it marketed it to a great degree and reaped the success of it. Doesn't it seem wrong to you on even a small degree that any ol company can decide to just go and copy everything to their own thing and use it? I suppose on these scales it's hard to symphasize with, but imagine the companies themselves are people ( which legally they are entities ), you made the wii and are reaping the success and now some big shot shows up copies your design and attempts to market it for just as much success or more even (given he has a bigger wallet for larger advertising).

pyropetey

All while Nintendo releases a new gamecube controller.

Eh, all they need to do is make a Wii Sports clone and I'm sold.

Kanik

It's a no-brainer as to why they're *cough* "emulating" the Wii remote. I'm sure its cousins, the Zune and HD-DVD player, will be more than happy to welcome it into the family with open arms.

Microsoft: IM IN UR MARKTZ DISRUPTN UR SALEZ

Murmaider

heydanbud

mva5580

Because by that definition, the original PS1 controller was absolutely a "carbon copy" of an SNES controller. same amount of face buttons, and 2 more shoulder buttons. Hardly a big difference.

I don't understand why everyone feels that every single idea ever created in the history of manking has to be absolutely 100% totally original with no inspiration at all. People duplicate, imitate, and recreate. Deal with it.

mva5580

Murmaider

because sega rushed out the door every one of its consoles and msoft is doing the same. The difference is that sega was driven by new and creative IPs/Hardware pieces. Microsoft is simply driven by a desire to make money by continually throwing money on the fire. Hell, the original xbox controllers were a carbon copy of the DC contollers!

globones

Because Xbox 360 is so HUGELY different from Xbox? PS1 to PS2 to PS3? NES to SNES to N64 to Gamecube to Wii? They're ALL incremental upgrades when you go from one to the next. But where as you define "REAL next gen console" as better graphics and a more detailed online experience, Nintendo went the route of changing the control scheme, and making games more accessible to everyone. I hate that whole "next gen" crap because all people do is associate graphics with it. Give me FUN GAMES, period. And as someone who owns all 3 current consoles, I can tell you I own 2 Xbox 360 games, 1 PS3 game, and 4 Wii games. It doesn't have to be the most powerful system to be the most fun.

Hell if anything, look at the majority of Nintendo's successor systems. SNES = added 4 face buttons and shoulder buttons. N64 = added rumble and analog. Wii = Wiimote/motion sensor. The graphics improvement has rarely ever been Nintendo's mission. They change the way games are played, not the way they look.

Better graphics are nice. I enjoy them as much as anybody. But just to discount what Nintendo chooses to do because they don't make graphics a priority is a misguided opinion. They make FUN GAMES, and as long as they continue to do that, they're going to be the big dog in this industry. Period.

mva5580

I think many people *cough cough* overlook this simple fact. It's too easy to ignore peripherals thats why they never work well in a market (unless some amazingly needed game comes with it a la guitar hero) but its not easy to ignore a requirement of a system. Easy as that eh?

If you're too unwise to realize this take some time off ;P it might help. And FYI hardcore's name is tarnished by the 360. Sorry but its true, I'm not saying any specific console is hardcore but true hardcore is something a lil more intense and dedicated than your standard (casual FPS) halo 3 rounds.

pyropetey

munkah

Blah8

NIGGER

[www.bitsmack.com]

chill182

TheFlyingGerbil

Padder

Just a thought.

Dr-J

Mlata

Wow, I'm just the opposite. If you could play Gears or Halo with the Wii-mote, it would increase my interest in those titles, not decrease. Likewise, I'd prefer to play them with kb/m, but Wii-mote is a close second. I can't understand why people hold so tightly to last gen controls. I guess it was the same way when the d-pad came out, lots of old-guard Atari fanboys pitched a fit because they wanted their massive joysticks and wouldn't move along with the times. Oh, well, I'm sure we'll eventually all be using actual pointers for our shooters. It just makes sense.

subnet6

-----------------------------

Naysayers can say what they will about Wii (hell, I say these things too sometimes) but Nintendo did give us a Metroid Prime3 that is more accurate than any console FPS that's not using m/kb or a splitfish. Nintendo did provide us with a Wiisports that shows that motion can work. Excitetruck proved motion can work for racing games. If you don't believe that watch the preview of Wipeout HD at 1up.com. It's almost the exact same motion control method of ExciteTruck and the soon to be released Mario Kart Wii and it's a silkly smooth ride. Mario Galaxy controls great with the Wiimote and Chuck and if RE4 didn't prove to you that RE5 without motion control is a gimped affair...you're just being delusional.

Motion needs support for hardcore games...something that Wii isn't getting enough of. MS may be able to provide that but I seriously doubt it. Sony is in a better position than MS because they already have a motion device and development well underway.

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

mind in rewind

Itri

It doesn't help that attach rates for peripherals like these are low to begin with, nevermind the major point that fighting for the downmarket can very well damage Microsoft's upmarket audience.

Basically, Microsoft will "fight" this "war" that game journalists seem to enjoy discussing so much with this Wii Remote-like device by attempting to fight for the downmarket that Nintendo currently rules, only to find that, by doing so, they're damaging their brand for their valuable upmarket consumers, and after a period of no success, they will pull out.

ModestMr.Green

reptile168

Yep.

crashlanding

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

Now if that's the case, they must now have a handle on the 360's hardware problems. You simply could not enter in to that market with the current 360's stability. Can you see Mr &Mrs Joe Average being impressed when they are told to stick their shiny new console in a box and expect it back in a month or so? I don't think so.

Anyway, just floating an idea...

shab

Possibly the best and most accurate sentence I've read in months ;)

DaiMacculate

"A 360mote would allow Microsoft to compete with not just Sony, but Nintendo as well."

Competing implies that Microsoft could capture the same market with this 36mote as Nintendo did with the Wii. Remember, the 360 has already been out for a good bit of time. It has already captured it's core market and is currently expanding, or attempting to expand into Nintendo's 'casual' market.

I would say, that in order for Microsoft to even attempt to compete and shift/add markets for the 360 it would have to do the same thing that Nintendo did/tried to do with the Cube. Remember back when the Cube was a 'kiddy' machine? It took the release of a number of good 3rd party games to make it more mainstream. Specifically, it took capcom to release a number of games and sleepers on the Cube.

With a 360mote... what would Microsoft do unless others embrace it? If the 3rd party publishers look at the 360 and the Wii, who do you think they would rather sell a 'motion' game on?

I just want you to chew on that for a few minutes. Games make the system. So If Microsoft can't divert 3rd party 'motion' games away from the Wii, this little project is likely to fail.

In other words, It looks like it's an uphill battle against the home team right now.

And I honestly think this is just a petty money mongering attempt.

JaxomZero

bushka

xgenius

boilermaker11

Candlejack

Blah-Blah-Blah

Wolfkin

That doesn't mean the technology is a gimmick as it has been around for ages.

C4WDeX

@Candlejack: First of all, the 360 Arcade is priced the same as the Wii. This is another attempt for Microsoft to get their foot in the casual door.

@Dag: What are you 10? IF XXX DOES THIS I WON'T BUY THEIR STUFF NOMOREZ!!!!oneone!1 Grow the fuck up. We all know it's not true, just like we all know you never had a classmate who took LSD and thought she was a glass of orange juice afraid to get tipped over.

@xgenius: Tell that to the PS3 GunCon which uses the same technology...

@IcerDragoon: Because if Nintendo invents something, they're the only people who can do it right from now on!! And you can't compare the Sixaxis which was a foolish move by Sony to try and copy Nintendo at the last minute. Oh yeah, Microsoft didn't lose HD, Toshiba did. Why do you think the player was external? In case HD-DVD did fail, they weren't fucked. Besides, if HD-DVD was built into the 360, #1 it wouldn't have been released when it did as HD-DVD was still in the womb. #2 The war would still be going on as the only reason Blu-Ray won was because of the PS3's trojan horse.

We can be certain of one thing, this won't be required, and just be an accessory to make some games better. If they can get the controls tight, the lightgun revolution may happen again. And we all know Microsoft likes games with guns.

C4WDeX

Looks like Nintendo does it again...

Dhighness

Hibikino

Travar

whoelse

PS3:
1) Online
2) Fun online
3) Fun online with friends
4) Exclusives

Wii:
1) Hardcore games
2) Games that I want to play
3) Games that I want to play
4) :/ You can see Nintendo pissed me off with their marketing strategy.

Don't mean to hate on any console here, just like to point out some faults the systems have in my opinion.

Candlejack

I think I've made myself clear on this whole horrible thing. Although it could still prove to be fake.

Kensei

But as far as I can remember, it was pointless in e.g. Uncharted. I think there were two instances that you used it, when you were balancing on a thin path or something like that.

Candlejack

proust

It'll only be smart if it works :P I'm guessing that it will come packed in with the game Rare is working on.

jayntampa

1) ------
2) ------
3) ------
4) Reliable Hardware
5) ------
6) ------

who would've known?

chorx

chorx

1) HDMI
2) 1080p
3) Motion Control
4) Reliable Hardware
5) WiFi
6) Standard HD

devilhunterx

By the end of this generation or the start of the next, this (two-piece controls + motion) will be the standard controller setup for video games. Hell, it's ENTIRELY possible that Sony/MS or someone else (Apple?) will do it better than Nintendo did. For now, look for one or more of the third party peripheral guys to develop and release wireless PS3/360/PS2 controllers that are split down the middle and joined by a cord.

moviebob

LittlestLamshi

AndrewDB

microsoft circa 2008: ok, maybe we jumped the gun on this motion control thing.

question: could this blow up in microsoft's face? i mean, they were very harsh on the wii when it first came out and we know what they said about the PS3 in regards to motion in these respected controllers. now, they turn tail and "jump on the motion bandwagon?" (i believe that was a quote from microsoft about sony adding motion controls to the sixaxix) will 360 owners turn up in droves and buy a peripheral that they have been told is a gimmick to sell the competitor's system? if banjo is the game that this controller if for, does MS think that the "hardcore" contingent that love gears of war, call of duty 4 and halo 3 are going to turn in rank and buy the 360/wiimote? i don't think so. sounds like when sony was defending them selfs against the world when they were accused of ripping off nintendo.

if this is true, i can't wait to 1) hear what MS will say to their established base that will make a case to buy this and 2) read the message boards when it gets announced. 360 owners and fanboys alike are going to have amazing excuses for MS ripping of a feature that they previously called a gimmick.

assuming this IS for banjo, when is it coming out? this xmas? putting this against resistance and whatever nintendo has doesn't sound very logical to me.

thoughts?

jfx316

I agree, although the motion controls aren't a selling point, at least not as much as companies want it to be, they can be fun at times.

What I dislike though is the use of the SIXAXIS tilt on occasions where you don't expect it. I don't think about the function when I play a game that uses the regular pad for 99% and then one action is tilt controlled and you use it 2 times in the game. That annoys me.

Candlejack

Agreed. But I don´t know why a ripoff isn´t illegal. If I copy a book, change it´s title and start selling it I´m arrested. And this is the same case no matter how you look at it and think about patents and such. Do they have an agreement with nintendo so they can manufacture it? Fishy stuff.

Wyld

The way I see it, MS has already said(?) that motion controls were just a gimmick at the moment. If that is their stance, they could just be developing this in order to have said gimmick's technology available for their system as well. The Wii still has a secondary (which turns primary on some games) controller that was released from the start with the system. You could look at this as Microsoft doing the same thing but in reverse order and lagging quite a bit in terms of development.

The implementation of the technology is ultimately what will affect *most* people's impressions of something like this. If they make a big marketing campaign to try to advertise as Wii360 then yeah it's retarded. On the other hand, if it's just making the peripheral and technology available for the machine, they're just giving developers more freedom in terms of how they want their games played.

Recup

Anything with an X in it will not ever be a family unit, not when the alternate is a shiny white tiny console named "Wii"

Absent Blue

Slap Bet

but whatever. it seems that MS wants to burn money now. Like they said they weren't worried in the least bit that they lost HD. maybe they're bored or something.

IcerDragoon

Amen brother. The Wii remote simply does not work for the majority of game genres. That includes FPS!

Nintendo themselves haven't even made good use of it , the exception being Wii Sports which is nothing more than a tech demo.

xgenius

Maybe M$'s next project will be codenamed 'iPod'. Or 'Gameboy'.

Only M$...

VicViper

nicopolitan

Besides, look at it this way. If MS totally rips the Wiimote/chuck design, the FPS support could be incredible. But without a killer app, this thing is going to sink like the Titanic. I'm betting on the latter.

Oh well, Nintendo dropped the ball when they gave us the Wiimote and chuck...proved it could work in a variety of traditional games but gave us a lemon in hardware. (I just bought Valykrie Profile 2, Shadow of the Colossus and MGS3 Snake Eater for PS2 and they all still look better than anything on Wii with the exception of Metroid Prime 3, Mario Galaxy and Smash Bros.

I was never a graphics whore before but after going back to Wii after extended PS3/PS2 upscaled to HD games...it's hard to look at Wii graphics and not go...'DAMN THAT'S UGLY AS SHIT"...maybe MS can get a clue and give us the motion controls and the HD support with superior graphics.

Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.

and people say nintendo hasn't done anything for the industry lol

unit

Timber317

vicmasterinc

Klappstuhl

"Motion control isn't going to solve anyone's problems."

supercrap

Personally I would rather see Microsoft spend some time and money to develop a game like eye of judgment for the 360, or some cash to grease the rails to help Valkyrie Chronicles to be released for the 360 :-p

MistahJGM

Agreed.

To be honest, I think it will be a boon for the FPS market, and make the 360 more accessible. What's the problem? Loads of games have multiple game controls, like Smash Bros Brawl.

Chadders

blackadvent

elronathon

NightMystic

enewtabie(Future LittleBigPlanet Master Creationist)

tehFluffz

FPS + Wii Remote (or knockoff) = WIN

nintend0nick

@ValeshniPastruk: There's no reptilious territorialism here at all. All I see and have seen is gimmickery, masquerading as fun.

@Lazlo: Sir, I refuse to get bent. I've played tons of the Wii. Hours. A large variety of games. I'd say playing more than a dozen Wii games qualifies me to have an educated opinion. And that opinion continues to be that waggling is a faddish innovation.

DaPress

Like I said, it will probably do just fine, but expect the actual brand name/marketing to be even less intelligent, was kind of where I was going. I mean, who the hell names their new OS after a male cow anyway? That was more my point than anything else ;)

DaiMacculate

Sugarbloodsuckers

Gossy

mysteryboy2k

Look. If you don't want it, don't buy it. It's pretty simple. But I don't see the point in complaining about it, or whatever, just because it's being released. I think some of you would complain about an OPTIONAL video game peripheral more than you would complain about your electric bill going up. Funny.

mva5580

FemaleOrca

Iceking5

What I think no one here is noticing is just HOW GREAT a 360 wiimote like controler would work on FPS. Can you imagine playing COD4 with this?

It would be the closest thing to play on a keyboard+mouse setup.

Ill stick to my humble Wii, anyway...

Shiryu

MisterSleep

What was wrong with having to push 20 buttonas and not having your grandparents play video games.

Asbestos_Underwear

Wolfers

subnet6

ExistentialEgg

This seems like the right way to do it. A gimmicky controller for a few gimmicky games, but the majority of titles (that just wouldn't work well with this controller) won't have to suffer.

Sebbe