Rovient

freespeech

Also! who else thinks being able to join the Harliquins (or illiuminati for you mon'keigh) and enter the black library would be awesome?

BurningShed

Yeah, you'll all bitch about what races you want to play. But you're all still gonna get owned when I show up in your instanced match with a killer army of Squa-

thecactusman17

LordMagnusMastah

Aseran

Raziel66

I reckon the other races are represented as cannon fodder for your missions. Not that this would be a bad thing, but I can imagine this turning into wandering around; alien temples = fight some Eldar, Chaos shrines = fight some chaos, deserted battlefields = fight some orks/nids, mysterious ruins = fight some necrons. etc

Call me sceptical, but I don't think this'll quite capture 40k in they way we are all hoping.

(All will be taken back if I can take control of a Nid warrior who levels up into a hive tyrant, sprout wings and go chomp on some guard)

Scammeleon

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE THRONE OF BONE!!

Zenian

And i agree, i hope they don't put this as a yin-yang thing.

all races should be separated.
The only ones which has wide range of different units would be Chaos, with dark eldars, Chaos Marine legions and daemons.

Personally think Chaos gonna get alot of flak for it resembling too closely to WoW legion side.

Onizuka-GTO

And yea its warhammer so everyone vs everyone please. Warhammer online is a letdown really, NO NURGLE WTF!!!

Rammsoldat

Shiryu

Polite Society

Striker118

Yin

It's not called lore! It's FLUFF!

Anyway, something that I'm speculating about:
We now know that the game will be an MMORPG, and the article also states plans are being made for larger battles than what Warhammer Online will feature. Well, normally, I think that the size of a battle would depend entirely on the number of players present, but I doubt this plan is flatout for more people to play 40k than Fantasy. With this in mind, what if "players will be able to form squads" actually means that a PLAYER CONTROLS AN ENTIRE SQUAD rather than just one character? Not only does this upsize the battlefield, but I think it could also serve as a method of balancing the different races. How could an Imperial Guard player possibly compare to a Space Marine player? By having four times more guys then he does! Also, along with squads, some people may control vehicles, instead. Sounds unlikely on being the correct interpretation of those words, sure, but I think it's at least a plausible idea.

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Of course, what Impurethinker said could work, too... Something like your player character being a "sergeant" figure who would command AI subordinates, the precise number depending upon your level and race type.

Zamzoph

Not-Witzbold

sc00t420

C'tan!

Monger King

sh0tgunn0strils

I cant imagine how you would play Tyranid. This would be the only MMO id be willing to put my life into.

robbie158

GodsBurden

Alaron

I cannot WAIT to see what Chaos look like.

Sabre_Justice: Okay, no more long name.

Well if you combine these two things it would work. That is as you "level up" you know get xp, credits whatever... you are able to control or recruit more NPC ai units of your faction.
Then the factions will fight in massive battles on different worlds (sorta like the islands on Planetside) the more worlds a faction controls the more xp or credits ect. each player of that faction will get. What I mean is that each faction will have a "home world" and when you log in you can chose to "transport" to the battle zones on other worlds. Maybe even be able to man persistant bases on 'fronts' on these worlds. These bases will allow the spawning of PCs and NPC AIs directly into the battle front.

Maybe to balance out the fun you could do something like have different ability trees for each type of PC.
What I mean is this:
Say when you make a character you pick which TT based faction. Within that faction you pick a command style hero that you play as yourself.
For example if you pick Imperial Guard --> Commissar as your character.
Now each faction would have certain "specialties". Say the Marine faction will focus on very powerful PC character fighting ability. The Imperial guard will focus more on NPC AI troop supporting ability, base building, and vehicals.
As a PC of a certain 'level' you can spawn and command different types and numbers of troops.
So in the formentioned Commissar example. Say when the PC spawns into a raging battle front he can then go to the front's HQ for his side and select AI troops to command depending on his level or skill tree selections. For example you could spec in Imperial Guard regular troops alot and be able to field an assload of them at once and have support abillites such as my fav DOW one "Execute" :)
Or you could play a Space Marine commander and spec a lot in your own fighting ability and have some potential to spawn maybe a squad of SM badasses for support.

Also this game would just have to have highly persistent corpses on the battle field.

Can you imagine? Being a Commissar and you and your Imperial Guard brothers (PC and NPC alike, hundreds in all) holding the line vs a Greenskin horde that is clamoring over the bodies of the fallen in order to tear off your head? All in first person MMO style with the support of a few well designed "battle map" huds to command troops with.

I think I might have to clean up now.

Impurethinker

icelight

I want my Space Marine Commander on an attack motorcycle!

Sabre_Justice: Okay, no more long name.

@the-hypnotoad: Hope is the first step on the road to dissapointment. It would make a lot more sense to do a free for all with the races instead of alliances, and shift the focus towards combat and gaining/losing territory in persistant battlegrounds rather than looting for armor or guns... I mean honestly, finding a demon killing power sword from the Inquisition, okay that'd be a sweet reward, but bolters and lasguns... They don't speak of epic titles and effects to me.

Garro

DasKonstruct

Dresarius

I'm just not really looking forward to playing this game with 100,000 space wolf players. Because that's pretty much what it's going to come down to in the end, I'm afraid.

Chapters of space marines are limited to 1,000. They should cap the servers to actually limit the chapters to 1,000.

Besides, being a rogue trader would be where it's at.

Dresarius

Karabiner98Kurz

As opposed to a constant item grind - "Oh look, an [Eldritch Tome of the Whale]" and upgrading to ever more doofy and mismatched armor and weapon pieces sets every few levels.

They'd really better have their stuff together; this is one of those properties where if you don't do it right you shouldn't even bother. Kinda close doesn't fly here. Some kind of convoluted ret-con (blood elves, I'm looking at you) to allow half these races to team up versus the other half just won't fly.

the-hypnotoad

Lokku

Sounds like a weird middle ground. Click systems with tactics... Who knows, it might work better than what we're thinking. I just firmly believe a real time system would be infinitely more entertaining and rife with possibility, though.

Garro

Otacon91

I agree with a lot of the other posters, that "order vs. disorder" would be twisting the source and ruining the feel of the game. Hope they don't go in that direction.

Aleeightone

mmo's need to get out of that boat, combat and killing stuff is the main focus of these games. Standard combat is just not as fun(especally when you do it 1000000000 times)and if you lose the fun out of combat and killing... Well it's just big cup of fail. :(

Lokku

I don't even care if the game sucks, I'll play it. Just like I did with Star Wars galaxies.

But now I'm definitely wondering how getting new weapons and armor will be handled. Space Marines only have like 3 (or 4 depending) levels of armor - Scout, Tactical, *Assault*, and Terminator. And on top of that only First Squads of a Chapter usually have Termie armor...and what about guns? Bolters are pretty much it half the time...

Alaron

Well WoW started with 8 races, and I guess if you take out Grey Knights and Adepta Sororitas, you get 4 good and 5 bad. Although, I'm having a tough time imagening Space Marines allying with Tau AND Eldar unless there was some serious shit at stake. Same goes for Dark Eldar(who can barely ally with themselves according to a handy GW chart) and lord knows how Tyranids or Necron would factor in.

We're talkin' some serious fluff manipulation or some seriousley creative race/alliance design for the general scheme of things.

If they include the Guard without making me think, "how am I possibly owning a Chaos Marine with a lasgun," I'll be seriousley impressed.

Garro

But not as interested as I am in the inevitable flame war when people start commenting "man, this looks a lot like Starcraft"...

Aleeightone

MasterYong

WickedSack

how could starcraft exist without it?

entro

That's the one thing about the fantasy thing that I can't suspend disbelief for: how you can look at the universe and pull this whole superfriends vs legion of doom dynamic out of your ass.

Moonshadow101

BattleBee

It'd be interesting to see them pull off the space hulk exploration bits without using instance portals.

SolInvictus

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nesskimo

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Cathaoir

excel_excel

Luke Plunkett

ghnvt

Otacon91

Squanderdalfast

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