freespeech

Dude, AR rapes, 6 bullets and a melee BAM your done

Feel free 2 look up my stats SPitFyRe666

ratio is 1.25 (ranked, obviously)

SPitFyRe666

I personally think the AR and BR are fine where they are right now. The AR is more effective at close range where accuracy doesn't matter as much, there its higher firing rate allows you to put a lot of bullets into someone and drop them before they can drop you with the BR.

BUT, valhalla is a big map, so the AR is weak there. BUT, there are BRs all over the place, so I've never had much of an issue.

/Hey, it has more cover than blood gulch did :P

lordargent

Oh wait, no it doesn't.

@lordargent: A lot of snipers there aren't as far forward as the pelican, and it's still way too open. I'm not saying the sniper rifle necessarily needs to change. I'm saying other weapons need to be more powerful. Everyone needs to start w/the BR and just get rid of the AR b/c it's a gimp weapon. The BR needs to have better range also.

@Anton P. Nym: The video is awesome.

Spartan1308™

@lordargent: Thanks for pointing that out, people can whine about snipers and lasers all they want. The point is if the person isn't good at paying attention or taking smart routes, then they will drop like flies and whine. The opposite also applies.

@nodirt: Halo 2 was quite awesome, but was highly ruined for me by standbyers/modders. I don't have that problem with 3, only problem is a common problem amongst all M-rated online games... whiny and annoying children (and occasionally adults). :P

@everyone about recon: This is still obtainable by anyone with several methods. You could do something outstanding in the Bungie community (which covers everything from machinima to crazy game play videos). Or even better they have had weekend double XP play lists that you can win the armor just by certain random stats they choose. I like that fact they have something to reward players. Of course either way people are going to whine. It seems be a standard these days.

brimstoneh2

I am still much more akin to the unreal maps, but would give up a bit of love for some Quake goodness if it came along.

That is the one thing I really loved about Unreal Tournament though, was the user generated maps.

zenpoet

Q2DM1 in halo 3?

lordargent

There is plenty of cover on valhalla, people just play that map stupidly and jump off the center man cannon and run straight up the hill. I'll sometimes pop those guys before they even land.

OTOH, people that go over on the pelican side, instead of cresting the hill, are much harder targets.

Even if I'm sniping from the pelican side, I still have to worry about people coming up through the cave, or along the outside of the cave. But once again, 80% of the people go straight for the man cannon and land in that open clearing, ripe for the picking.

/34% of my valhalla kills are from sniping. I'm no uber sniper, people are just dumb.
[www.bungie.net]

lordargent

Or how about remakes of great maps from other games, like Unreal, or Unreal 2004? I know it might be difficult to get the rights for it, but I would love to have Master Chief make a run at Deck 17.

zenpoet

The maps do look great though, and I'm glad they'll be bringing back Lockout (the best Halo 2 map evar kthx) and sidewinder. can't wait to see the changes as the original map definitely needed a lot of tweaking to become Halo 3 ready.

Sometimes i wish they would just port all the old maps right from the start, but they gotta nickel&dime us somehow, right?

Crawl to China

Oh wait, this isn't the Bungie forums.

skrame ☆

Eville1 says SKUse me a sec.

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Thank you.

-- Steve

Anton P. Nym

PHILOSOPHER541

nodirt

Soralinkyuna

...for free.

Han Daimond

The gameplay in Halo 3 is just a bonerkill. I'll wait until these are free, just like the last ones.

.endejas.

[en.wikipedia.org]

Snipers can kill with one shot from a great distance, but otherwise that really isn't the case. Snipers don't rule in COD4 generally b/c other weapons can be used to counter them and there is plenty of cover. That isn't the case in a game of Halo 3 on a place like Valhalla where there sn't much cover and snipers or spartan laser carriers can destroy pretty much anything else. Spawn-ready or not, the weapons in H3 need some serious work. They nerfed the crap out of vehicles but snipers and spartan lasers are ridiculously powerful and capable of huge distances. In addition to that, everyone starts w/the crappy AR in most games so the first guys to grab the BRs already have a huge advantage. And seriously, you're going to pull the "fanboyism" card when my screenname on a video game focused website is "Spartan"1308. Gee, I wonder where the "Spartan" part came from. I'm not saying I don't like Halo. I'm saying COD4 multiplayer is much better in my opinion in large part due to the balancing of weapons. I probably spent more time playing H2 than you've spent playing all video games in the past 5 years so don't try to paint me as some sort of anti-Halo fanatic.

Seriously, if that wikipedia article is what you meant by "instagiby" you're way off. H3 has a crazy amount of shielding, too much I would say. COD4 is by no means an insta-death game though. If you are decently skilled, you can often escape death or turn the tables and kill your attacker.

Spartan1308™

ultraViolence

OK, continue fanboyism.

Xiedo

@Captain Impulse: A lot of the "stupid crap" isn't on purpose. A trophy is something to earn, these people aren't earning anything if "stupid crap" just happens. I just don't like the special privileges thing, and I'd be surprised if some "friends" of Bungie haven't been given these special privileges just like they were given the ability to play the game itself before everyone else. It happens. I don't like it. I can't change it. I don't play H3 much now anyway, so I don't really think about it much. Someone here brought it up so I threw in my two cents.

Spartan1308™

Shukaku

/not to mention DLC was unranked

lordargent

Captain Impulse

XWonka

Whoa. /tangent

I understand what you mean if it was Bungie passing out special crap to their friends, but that's not the case here. They've rewarded certain gamers with prizes for doing stupid crap like sniping yourself in the head. Think of them as virtual trophies rather that something you're missing out on. Maybe it'll sting less then.

Captain Impulse

Anyway, what did IW do to knock Halo down a peg? Aside from the different game mechanics, they don't even allow visual customization in COD4. I think your get-up is completely dependent on the primary weapon. IW didn't put any effort into that area.

Xiedo

Spartan1308™

I really want to play them in matchmaking, they look like a blast!!! Especially since Lockout was one of my favourite maps in Halo 2. When I saw the remake of Zanzibar, I really wanted a remake of many Halo 2 maps, especially Lockout... I hope we will get more over the years that Halo lives on.

nzapster

ABigSmall

belo

Captain Impulse

agdTinMan

Spartan1308™

OGHowie

Captain Impulse

Spartan1308™

KindaGamey

JoDark117

@AnEternalEnigma: Thanks, that was a meaningful contribution.

The Lockout remake map doesn't do anything for me, but damn does that Sidewinder one look good. I can see a lot of vetoing going on to get that map to come up in the DLC playlist.

Ghost Town...not sure what to think, yet. I think it's one that will have to prove its worth through use.

Captain Impulse

JoDark117

scotty

ManjiKengo

Otacon91

XWonka

ManjiKengo

TalAarahk

The SideWinder map Avalanche is a reimangined version
Blackout is a straight up Lockout remake
Ghost Town is new.

Iceking5

AnEternalEnigma

enewtabie(Future LittleBigPlanet Master Creationist)

Iceking5

I dig it.

Livid

Count me in then!

TOWER_JUNKIE

Erwin

Curse you, Bungie.

Marios_shadow

TOWER_JUNKIE

Sentry459

excel_excel

sorry i had to do that.

lookin forward to it.

Dakobah

TheCheese33

Iceking5

Ha! I used it first! Now you can't use it on xboxlive!
Man I'm so smart....

scotty

TheExiledLeader