i don't remember seeing anything other than the original trailer at e3, was there a special viewing of the game for the press?????????

freespeech

StartRunning

neojam

Derigor

I'm looking very forward to this, because I long ago broke the shackles that keep most hardcore games stuck in the past and unwilling to take anything other then what passes their smell tests. Hardcore Fallout fans need to learn they are quickly becoming irrelevant when it comes to what a dev does and does not do, due to their childish batshit insane stances on things.

Foxstar Sixtail

Long as the game is good and does not stray too far from it's lore and canon, I'll gladly buy it and yes, I've played and beat the hell out of the first two Fallouts. Great games. It's time to move on NMA folks, Van Buren is dead, you aren't getting it back. Stomping your feet and refusing to get with the times within a reasonable measure is going to result in two things.

1-The developers giving you the finger as they find you are imposable to please/sate whiny mofos and thus ignore anything you might have to say, for good and bad. This given time will result in them maybe doing things you don't like, but you won't have any say..because they are no longer listening to you.

2-Other devs not listening to anything you might have to say as they give you the finger too.

I firmly believe Bes will have a number of loud, vocal detractors who will make a point to draw as much attention to themselves as possible when this game hits, even if Fallout 3 does what no one thinks it can, please enough of the hardcores and make a bunch of causals happy. And like all stuck in the past hardcores, they will cast a bad shadow on all fans.

Foxstar Sixtail

Project Thanatos

you forgot third choice

3)make as much money as possible. make a game that appeals to their highest fanbase in this case,oblivion fans and the industry's highest fanbase FPS. Make xbo 360 the main development platform because most sales will come from consoles.Making sure that controls are made easier in consoles even though it may limit Pc users.

I personally think their choice was no. 3

d_agra

enspik

moclippa

cadaverdog

shadow_judge

Oh, and you may not believe this, but we actually *don't* want the same "graphics, story, etc, etc." Or does an isometric viewpoint require outdated 2D graphics? (Have you even *seen* Van Buren, the original Fallout 3?) Or perhaps the story must be limited?

Stop assuming that we're anti-progress. We just have different thoughts on what "progress" is.

And it's kinda sad that you admit that games done in the original style would not "very likely sell that well." Well, why the hell does it have to be that way? *Why*?

Oh, right. Shooters with shiny graphics.

Rohit_N

1-Completely follow the top down format of the first one with only minor updating for graphics, story, etc, etc. This would please the NMA crowd the most, understandably feels as if they've been tossed out of the house that they helped built, like most PC fans from that era. It however would very likely not sell that well, but hey, the core fanbase is happy, that's what counts right?

2-Try something new while making a strong effort to stick to Fallout canon as much as possible while reaching out to Xenophobic, rabid angry fans who honestly don't give two shits because it's not being done like the old Fallout style. PC gamers are infamous for being bigger, more uptight mofos then console gamers. By trying #2, there's a much better chance to bring in a host of new blood into the fandom and make strong sales that..you know what? It might result in more Fallout projects.

Bethesda has gone with #2, and like it or not, it's the way things are going. It's time to get over it people. Much as you loved Fallout 1 and 2, how did they measure up sales wise?

Foxstar Sixtail

Voteforme2020

I love shooters. I also love RPG's. From the screenshots that Bethesda's giving us, I'm definitely seeing a shooter - where's the RPG?

Aww, what do I know. I go to NMA, so that kinda invalidates my rabid opinion.

Rohit_N

It's a great time to be a gamer.

Captain Impulse

"I have a special request. I'd like to be "captured" by a sarcastic mutant lieutenant, interrogated roughly, and then dunked in his mutating vats."

or telling that guy to cut off his pinky finger so you can help him, then turning around and telling him to cook it.

A lot of the comedy in f2 was genius.

ReginaldTheSeventySecond

Speaking of Mentats... who's gonna blow it: Fallout 3 or the Dune remake? I hope neither.

sharky

npa190

Indeed. [image.com.com]

It's shaping up nicely, but being a major fanboy of the traditional Fallout games, I have my fears.

I think the hardest part to nail about the Fallout universe will be the feeling of purpose everywhere you go. In Fallout, you traveled on the map screen and only stopped for important reasons, removing much of the boredom associated with a long journey, but if Bethesda lets players wander aimlessly through a vast, dead landscape as in Oblivion, the player will lose sight of which areas are important.

As long as there's a point to exploring the areas between your storyline goals, something Oblivion lacked immensely, the rest of it should fall into place nicely.

unmarkedone

excel_excel

I think so far the art team they have has stayed pretty truthful to the originals- sure things look a little bit different, but I think that's to be expected when you have better graphics to work with and a full 3D environment.

Chillblain

excel_excel

@excel_excel: Oh good god, please don't say that. Mass Effect was alright, but plagued with poor game design and game play decisions- exactly what I don't want to see happen to FO3.

Chillblain

okenny :)

@J-Fro: "Theres some Storm Troopers in here...OH NO I'VE BEEN SHOT!"

excel_excel

Goodbye, what little of a social life I had.

And hello new underwear buying.

Komrade_Kayce

BANG!

"Oh Dear..."

J-Fro

am i the only one seeing similarities there, just give it some denim and voila!

bodger1

Gumshoe42

Pantsman

Eltigro

For now iam very skeptical about FO3, i doubt very highly that they manage to stay true to the series...so far from what ive read and heard, things are not looking good for that.

Anyways, from my FO2 game (me + my new armour + a ho) lol:
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neojam

2NinjasTapedTogether

seriously i hope this game is great to my PS3, it's gonna get a hard-on for this one.

zanzibarlegend

darthmole12

Fonic

And what's the basic essence of Fallout? To me, it was story, locale, three-headed brahmin and the ability to shoot someone in the face with a ray-gun; not looking at the tops of buildings and spending a minute and a half planning a move. The perks are still there, so are the stats. Dialogue should be in, and shows no sign of NOT rivaling I and II.

A roleplaying game is NOT about where your camera is.

[/killitwithfire]

Feel free to not take any of this personally. >_> I just like to read my own rants.

Krackatoa

goliathvv

Krackatoa

Cathaoir

It's entirely possible that I am overreacting. I also enjoyed noticing that everyone glossed over the whole part where I said it was likely going to be a good game. I think I just failed to make it clear that I am quite afraid that it won't be enjoyable to me.

As someone who has a very hard time getting into FPS games in general, I can't help but feel that no matter what elements Bethesda attempts to keep in, the basic essence of Fallout cannot be transitioned to first person. Twitchy action does not lend itself to an RPG in my own personal belief.

But by all means, enjoy the game. As I said, I'm sure there will be many who will enjoy it, and I'm pretty certain I will be in the minority of those who instead prefer to sit in my darkened cave, filling my entire 1GB hard drive with the full install of Fallout 2 off the CD-ROM. Don't let the dissenters dissuade you from enjoying something. Just don't be quick to dismiss or insult someone who doesn't like everything you do. Not everyone enjoys the PC gaming world's idea that only FPS games can sell anymore.

jasu78

ReginaldTheSeventySecond

I probably oughta get on Fallout 1 & maybe 2, before #3 hits. So I can be genuinely disgusted. Or surprised.

Xiedo

I'm definitely lining up for this one.

Revenge_of_Nekojin

Krackatoa

Ashurahori

I really don't see the difference between this and the other Fallouts so far, aside from the fact that it's first person instead of third, combat's a bit faster and you can't shoot rats in the crotch.

My only gripe is I don't have much faith that they'll keep the weird pop culture references I came to love of it's predecessors.

I think you're overreacting. -_-

Krackatoa

Now before I get flamed to hell and back, let me just say that I have very little doubt that this will be an enjoyable game. It just will have very little to do with the games I spent many months of my life playing the hell out of, and as I just couldn't get into Oblivion, personally, I feel as betrayed by this as Leonard Boyarsky... though admittedly, I had nowhere near as much personal involvement in it's development as he did.

jasu78

bigcheda

ReginaldTheSeventySecond

MisterSleep

btw: harold FTW

jrghoull

mbeck

baccardi84

Strangelove

Strangelove

DaRebel

CartBlanche

Tei

Iceking5

Fyren

dicknasty

TalAarahk

Iceking5

TheOtis

Blah-Blah-Blah

Archaotic

Thorax

Markyboy

galewind

Iceking5

Flawless101

Thorax

enewtabie

exkon

kplooksafterme

risingphoenix

awwyeadatsright

MaxS

Doomstink

[*] Blowing off Limbs
[*] Big Baddies
[*] Unique non-cookie-cutter environments
[*] Sweet looking weapons
[*] Sweet character modeling
[*] Wearable suits
[?] Man's best friend
[?] MOAR!!!

okenny :)

sh0tgunn0strils

@VishusBurn: The horse armor failed so badly they gave it away for free. I don't think they'll try that again.

Polywhirl

VishusBurn

Can't he see it wants to hug him?

"GHOUL ONLY WANT FRIEND!"

Koztah

LandMineLandSnake

Haha, censorship makes things so weird. Sweet looking screenshots though, I'm looking forward to it.

fuchikoma

FP_slomo788

VishusBurn

ultraViolence

okenny :)

xanavi

neoraul20

slickchris7777

ittekimasu

Seabass