<![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @ManjiKengo: yeah I thought at much. "GT did have a damage model. GT2 was the first game to include it, however it was only physical not visual damage [7]".

They are bitching about the visual damage, not the wear and tear of the wheels.

ManjiKengo

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @cowondinosaur: you sure? I don't remember that at all.

ManjiKengo

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @robinhood1086: Is it really 1080p?

the other day I got bored and started looking at the back of the ps3 game boxes. About 90% of all the games say 720p with a few 1080ps.

What's the deal with that shit? A game system touted as the 1080p MACHEEEENE and only like 5% of the games use it.

ManjiKengo

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @dowingba: Trust me, I work in the industry and they do have to get permission from the car companies. Think about if you were a company like ferrari do you want your car in a game where they smash it up. There's a lot of give and take with the car companies as far as how damaged your allowed to show the car and what not.

Dancin_Fool

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> I'm a fan of racing games myself, and I have to say I enjoy certain aspects of GT more than Forza, but they are very nearly the same game from my perspective. They are the 'racing-sim' of their respective consoles.

That said, GT is one of the few games that could make me buy a PS3 - but I won't be buying one for this $40 demo shit, sorry Sony.

mdx392

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> Take your time, guys. When I play Gran Turismo, I keep it on the track. When I want to play bumper cars, I fire up Burnout. Both great games in their own subgenre.

I would like voice chat though. Seriously.

fuchikoma

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> Polyphony saying something "might happen" is their way of saying "not a chance in hell." They have a long history of overpromising and underdelivering, and I doubt this will be any exception. Not when they could shift development efforts to more demos instead.

ckrueger

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @jynxce:

Gran Turismo 2 had damage. So no, it didn't take five iterations for GT to do what Forza 1 did, it took Forza 1 six years to copy and attempt to improve upon GT (GT2 was 1999, Forza 1 was 2005). GT is just finally getting back into full form. Do your research before you flame.

cowondinosaur

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> All the negative comments are right. Don't play for an unfinished game. The more you are a gimp to big game franchises like GT5, the more they think they can get away with gimping you.

Lessthan_tom

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> So I'll have to start using the brakes instead of ramming the walls.. ;)
Oh and about driving aids, the game is much more fun with them off imo.

Harteex

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> Oops..hit the return button accidentally...

I think what they need to sort out first is the collision detection. I am absolutely so pissed off by AI cars barging up the inside or coming back on to the track from gravel traps straight into the side of my car, and ME getting a time penalty for it. It's almost game breaking as far as I'm concerned...

shab

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> Ok, so you have to download some extra stuff (for who knows how much), just so you can break the cars like folks who bought Forza 2 could that was right out of the box?

Whats up with that? Seriously, if you're going to do something like that, just put it on the disk. Oh sure, a lot of folks have high speed internet now, but not everyone does, and I'm sure those folks are going to have quite a lot to complain about.

Salen

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> Forza 2 anywhere as good as GT?!?! Why that is crazy talk! How dare anyone say that in a thread full of unabashed Gran Turismo furor. ;)

Kaosu

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @Mr_Ed: I completely agree. Even with the driving aids off, GT4 just didn't feel like driving to me. Forza 2 captures it perfectly. For me this ADDS to the fun level.

Fistynuts

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @Mr_Ed: You're sure you've played a GT game? How about with driving aids off? Or switching to Professional Sim mode? GT4 and GT5P are incredibly customizable to match your skill level.

Also, being able to use a good steering wheel (rather than Microsoft's wireless) one really, really improves the game.

@boopadoo: Why in the world would they charge for damage DLC? They just released the (free) spec-ii update for the JP version of GT5P that added some 30 cars, 1 track, and doubled the number of events. That kind of content would cost you probably $20 in any other game. Before that, online was added in a (free) patch. It looks like they're pretty committed to rewarding people who bought Prologue.

Reiji

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @Mr_Ed:

forza2.... I totally forgot about that game, I bought it and it's collecting dust, forza2 is boring.

Gambare

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @Archaotic:

you talking about a game you may never buy due a lack of a PS3

Gambare

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> Personally for me GT3 was the last good GT title. GT4/HD was just a better looking 3, nothing new added.

GT5 is taking some nice steps, but really, every review says one thing...Gorgeous.

Its seems the most important thing was to make it look good. And by heck it does.

Forza2 is soo much more than GT5 at the moment, but there are 2 problems. Forza put gameplay before looks, and as it turns out, people will forgive anything for gorgeous 1080p @ 60fps.

Secondly, Forza2 simulates too well. Driving a car on a track fast is HARD, and with most cars one wrong move, and its all over. Forza2 mimics that, GT always had a good way of hiding that, making it more fun.

Mr_Ed

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> I hope Yamauchi-san feels like a sucker when the damage DLC sells only 50 downloads. There's so much more that racing titles, especially the GT series could improve on, like a real model mode where you can explore the entire car inside and out, or full customization, or free roam.

That's a freebie, Sony. Now get to work on the FULL GT5, dammit!

boopadoo

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @robokasey:
What you are essentially saying is this:
"I can't substantially argue that the core gameplay is different, so instead I'm going to post why I think GT is better. 1) It is older and thus Forza is a ripoff. 2) Forza just feels worse. Yes --feels-- worse. GT feels much better because I hold a sentimental value towards the franchise and thus a glaring bias."

You have no argument. It is fine that you enjoy GT more, many do. Just don't try to pose an argument where you have none.

P.S.: If you are going to compare games, don't compare a rubbish shooter like killzone to Halo. Killzone was mediocre at best, with very shoddy mechanics.

Kaosu

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> how is damage going to solve idiots online? In real life if a guy t-bones you from behind you both are fucked. It's just one of those unwritten rules that you don't intentionally try to take people out. People make mistakes and I'm sure online there will be people who go hot into a corner and take someone else out.

I really don't see what the big deal with having damage in the game is. I second whoever said they should get ingame voice chat and private lobbies in. It's just one of those things that would be nice to me.

kimchimonkey

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @invisiblewok: ive always imagined it as an on/off feature. i dont mean damage on/off but aspects like tires, drivetrains, engine wear, and body damage on/off. it is a simulation but having a million things go wrong w/ur car.. like.. my car (dont buy a TL).. isnt fun so i think you should be able to scale it. the main deal is if i hit the wall in turismo at 130 mph i want flames and crumples and i want to be dead because i made a fatal mistake. not see the car float a foot off the ground and settle like a feather. or! the other way around.

cswat

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @AverageJoes: There are many games out there with not even half the number of modes, customisation and even cars that GT5P has. $40 is a steal.

Yamster

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @ca$h: I'm sorry but Forza is not and never will be GT. GT has history and a reputation. Forza is a game that wants to be another game. Yes they are really really similar in some ways but its like the killzone halo debates. Sure killzone was nice but halo is halo. It's the same with these two games. I played forza and it was cool with damage and all but GT is all about the cars and you can tell how much time and work has gone into each one. I didn't feel that awe with forza. So yeah guts may be the same but its the feeling you get while playing it that seperates them......so there

oh and 40 seems like a lot but just remember that 10 dollars gets you 3 maps these days and that's 1/6th the price of a new game....

robokasey

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @cswat: Only problem with Grid is Codemasters still have a central pivot on the vehicle physics. I was hoping they'd fixed that since DiRT, but it's still noticeable in their latest game-play video. When the vehicle turns right, the rear wheels move left (and no, it's not over-steer).

It's a shame though. I thought DiRT was an awesome game, but that always destroyed the "illusion". I expect I'll enjoy Grid as much as I enjoyed DiRT (if not more, because of better online). But I do hope they fix the physics.

Doshu

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @cswat: Just a question, why would damage be a fun thing in a simulation? I mean, it would make it more realistic. I know when I'm playing Forza 2 and I down shift too quickly while going 180mph and I destroy my clutch, and now my shifting is going at the speed of a 1880 bat out of hell, I'm not all smiles and giggles. I'm thinking, "wow, I drive a stick I should know better than to do something dumb like that or I will blow the engine next time."

invisiblewok

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @dowingba: "I wouldn't underestimate how much "realism" damage adds to a game. Yes, the damage itself is slightly unrealistic (cars can't roll and all cars take damage exactly the same, etc) but just the fact that there is game-breaking damage there makes you drive more realistically."

That's the main reason why I want damage in GT5. Not so much because it changes the way I drive (I can stick to the racing line without crashing into walls or other cars), but because it will impact the way people drive online and will (hopefully) have an impact on the way the AI drives.

Unfortunately, the way it affects how people drive online will be directly related to how much of a tool they are.

From a "realism" perspective, the fact that the cars don't roll actually irks me more. And there are plenty of racing games that are guilty of that omission.

"By the way, can anyone who has prologue confirm whether or not it works with the old GT4 Logitech force-feedback wheel?"

It works with both the Logitech USB controllers I have. One is the wheel that was bundled with GT3 (GT Force?), the other is the G25. I'm pretty sure all the Logitech wheels work as Logitech even appear in the game credits.

Doshu

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> i think this is more in retaliation to GRID than Forza. imo GRID looks more impressive on the car exteriors and environments PLUS the damage is spectacular and fun to watch.

cswat

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @invisiblewok:
lol, guess not.

What most likely is going to happen is that car damage will be programmed into the game and will be tucked away descretely on the retail disc --of the full game at least. Then if manufactures allow damage, they'll release the activation patch.

Kaosu

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @ca$h: GT5 will have the Top Gear track! ;)

Kaneda

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @dowingba:

Great post- you hit the nail on the head.

I'd also add that the Forza 2 driver AI is miles ahead of what I've seen in the GT series (and seems to be the same in GT5P). In Forza, each race has the potential to be different. I still remember in GT3 earning money by doing some of the races over and over again without adapting my strategy once.

In Forza, the AI is far more adaptive. I didn't touch the Forza series until Forza 2 since I was a religious GT fan throughout the PSX and the PS2. I play mainly SP and thus CPU AI is of utmost importance for me. In that category, Forza 2 IMHO blew GT out of the water.

Also, I hope the GT damage won't simply be cosmetic in nature- that would be ridiculously lame.

Snuffbox

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @ca$h: I guess no one had a no b$ argument huh?

invisiblewok

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> Yes, car damage is coming to GT5P. It will come right after the patch for online play for GT4!

Hugoku

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> so... they finally succumb to everybody's whining eh? can they make a really detail damage model that's the same quality as GT highly detailed visual?

rich8606

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @DoubleV: No, I don't think it's a tad bit expensive. Now, not every VC game is worth buying in the first place, but the ones that are, are easily worth $5.

What "dollar per hour" ratio do you usually get out of games? Especially now-adays when games are getting shorter and yet going up in price by $10 for no bloody reason?

The VC has issues, there's no doubt. No ghost data in Mario Kart? What kind of severe bullshit is that? But the prices are not the issue. Honestly. It's $5-$10.

Case in point: while I played the hell out of Ocarina of Time back in the day, I never actually owned it. I now own my very first copy of one of the best games ever made, for $10.

dowingba

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @dowingba: $5 for a 20 year old game. You don't think that's a tad bit expensive? $1-2 would be more reasonable

DoubleV

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @slomo788: Forza may add a touch of realism with damage, but it's not sim-like.

I'm sorry man, but anyone who has spent any significant amount of time with Forza knows that statement is 100% bullshit. I have completed every GT game, and every Forza game. They are almost identical copies of one another, and it is blowing my mind how far people here are going to diss one or the other.

Forza IS Gran Turismo (w/ damage), except it's on the Xbox. THAT'S IT. I defy anyone to point out a significant difference between the two games. They both accurately simulate car physics, they both have pretty much the same parts to customize your car with, they both allow you to tweak the exact same RIDICULOUS numbers of parameters in your car, they even share many of the same fucking tracks! A Subaru WRX feels exactly the same in both games. What else can I say?!

Now, with out flat out lying or making shit up, tell me the difference. For example: 'GT has a greater number of cars' is acceptable. '(GT/Forza) plays like Need for Speed' is not.

And slomo, please don't take offense. This rant is in no way directed at you personally. You just happened to be the person I replied to that got me going and it kinda spun out from there.

ca$h

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @Dancin_Fool: This is an excuse they've used all along in the GT series. I call complete 100% BS on this one. First of all, I'm not altogether sure they even need "permission". And second of all, every other game I can think of that has real cars in it has damage modelling of some sort.

dowingba

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> One thing a lot of people need to realize is that one of the problems with adding damage is getting permission from the car companies to damage their cars. GT has a lot of cars and if they get permission to have damage on some of the cars, it's not like they can just turn on damage for half the cars.

Dancin_Fool

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @slomo788: I wouldn't underestimate how much "realism" damage adds to a game. Yes, the damage itself is slightly unrealistic (cars can't roll and all cars take damage exactly the same, etc) but just the fact that there is game-breaking damage there makes you drive more realistically.

GT4 does a marvelous job considering the incredibly low-powered system it runs on, but the physics don't stand up to Forza 2. Is it a fair comparison? 360 vs PS2? No. But nonetheless.

I'll definitely be getting GT5 one day, damage or not. Because considering how awesome GT4 stands up even today, I'm sure Polyphony will be making a game way ahead of its time and I'm sure it'll be a wonder to behold on the PS3.

By the way, can anyone who has prologue confirm whether or not it works with the old GT4 Logitech force-feedback wheel?

dowingba

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @dowingba: I suppose by my last post you can already guess that I never said that Forza is a bad game (lots of fun on my old Xbox, especially with the custom soundtracks). But GT is ahead.

FP_slomo788

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> I was under the impression that GT never had damage not because of technical limitations (as a lot of folks seem to be implying), but because the car manufacturers play hard ball with Sony when it comes to damaging their oh-so-pretty cars.

In any case: meh. I was never all that impressed with GT. Always struck me as a half-assed car rpg/spreadsheet simulator. I don't think any racing game can call itself "realistic" until it matches the brutally unforgiving model in Papyrus's decade-old Grand Prix Legends.

JustThisGuy

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @dowingba: Yamauchi already announced that GT5 will try to be more casual to minimize the frustration that the GT series has always had. But as far as simulating goes, GT wins. Forza may add a touch of realism with damage, but it's not sim-like. This is like comparing Call of Duty 4 with Resistance (or Halo 3, to not hurt anybody's feelings). Resistance has vehicles, and is better to introduce someone to the shooter style (very debatable, I know), but CoD4 is better in terms of realism.

FP_slomo788

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @Sollus:
I was asking the people claiming Forza was crap compared to GT without even slightly justifying their position, but your answer will do :)

ca$h

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> wait....1080P+60FPS,plus damage ....im gonna bet my ps3 will catch on fire from all this hd-car-damage-nougaty-goodness..

robinhood1086

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @slomo788: There's another place that GT is not "crushing" Forza. It's in the entire presentation. (Granted, I don't know how GT5 is set up.) Forza is presented to you as a game. You level up and unlock new events, etc. GT is set up as if you're really living the boring life of some driver.

Here's where Forza shines: you can progress through the game as you would any other video game. And yet it still has all the gear-nerdy stuff that GT series has (only you can switch out and mod even more stuff). Also, I consider Forza to be more of a "simulation" whereas GT is clearly leaning toward the arcade-side, as far as actual driving is concerned. Not to mention, Forza's difficulty is fully customizable, which is freaking great.

In Grand Turismo 4, you can spend weeks racing the same events over and over because you haven't yet met one or more various arbitrary requirement to "advance" (not that you really "advance" in GT4...you mostly just...buy more stuff). I've probably put 30 hours or more into the license tests alone in that game. It's sickening really.

I love both games, but they each have their pros and cons, and they each fullfill different niches. Personally, I get alot more enjoyment out of Forza.

dowingba

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> What will happen:

1. Download the patch.

2. Disable damage model.

Mongoosekun

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @ca$h:

I just said what the gap is. The stupid game is claiming to be the most realistic racing simulator in the world but yet I can go in to corners slamming off opponents to make the turn easier or I slam a wall just to get no damage but a stupid 5 second delay. That's not realistic and I'd like to be able to modify my cars exterior as well thank you.

Sollus

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> Even Forza 1 had damage and that was LAST GEN. For the real GT5 I hope they actually focus on realism in every sense of the word not just making cars look pretty. Cause I was actually planning on buying a ps3 for GT5(not the prologue bs) not if they aren't including damage though

GodzillaVsJapan

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @dowingba: The only things where GT is not crushing Forza are damage and AI. At least for damage, I expect an outstanding improvement, true to the series.

FP_slomo788

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @dowingba: A ridiculously good (and superior) PC game actually. Called GTR 2.

Candlejack

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @DoubleV: $5 too much to pay for a game? Yet more proof of the "average gamer is ridiculously cheap" theory I've come up with.

I can get a Big Mac Meal at McDonalds for $6. That's a dollar more than an NES game. Now, which one will give you more hours of enjoyment?

dowingba

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @slomo788: Forza 2 has better damage simulation than any driving game I've ever played. And I've play a lot of driving games. (I fully admit that there's probably some ridiculously bad PC game that has better damage, but to call Forza's half-assed is...slander.)

dowingba

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> geez, a bunch of people hating on GT5.

Damage or not, I look forward to the prologue. To the people who thinks the price is ridiculous, don't buy it then. People who are car enthusiast will buy it like it or not.

You know what's over price? Virtual Console games, yet people still buy them

DoubleV

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> Man this game is SO gonna turn into Burnout Paradise now with damage + US online players. Hope people have enough manners and delicacies to create/stay in rooms if they wanna play bumper cars and see crashes, and not ruin the online game for everybody else.

Dir_en_grey

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @jynxce: The question is not whether or not GT should have damage. I think no sane person can deny that. But Forza is not a model. If GT tries to follow Forza, the series is going backwards.

FP_slomo788

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @slomo788: Maybe you're right... then maybe it doesn't matter that what I say it's going to fall on def ears.

If there a feature missing that some gamers may question, correct it if your competition has implemented already.

Is that that difficult to follow or understand?

jynxce

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> *goes and plays forza (1). ohh, last gen damage.

Seriously guys, they're both menu-based driving simulators with physics. What the hell is this massive gap between the two that keeps being alluded to but never defined?

ca$h

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> Can we stop with the half finished PS3 games being released? If the game isn't ready, why not wait and release when it is and disappoint fewer people.

aka Bitter

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @jynxce: I am almost convinced that you are insinuating that GT has to catch up with Forza in terms of improvement and it's not the other way around.

FP_slomo788

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @Sollus: I would say GT's graphics + physics + tuning mods + total number of cars + number of cars on track + interior view with damage better than Forza and its paint and body customization.

FP_slomo788

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @jynxce: forza fucking sucked. fact.

jfx316

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @Sollus: I appreciate that you actually got what I was stating.

I don't give a rat's ass what console the game is on, as long as the devs are doing their best to outdo their closest competitors. For GT, it is Forza and I want to see them push past what they accomplished.

See, competition is good for the gamer when you're not emotionally attached to your console or EA...

jynxce

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @AverageJoes: You are spot on there (with the last paragraph, don't care too much about the rest to be frank). It took me forever to get the F430 only so I have the *possibility* to beat Class A or Series A whatever it's called. And I can't even do that cause I either suck or it's usual to be unable to overtake 15 supercars in one tiny lap.

At any rate, you can only race in beginner's class online (with any car type luckily) until you beat all the singleplayer races. You can't even take on Time Trial before. You are castrated to 2 tracks (off the top of my head) in multiplayer.

Candlejack

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> That seals the fate of the full game to be released NEXT year. Damnit. I do agree with the Forza comment above. I wish I could have gran turismo's graphics with the tuning modifications blended with Forzas damage and paint and body customization.

Sollus

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @ryivanV2: As a matter of fact, I love the GT series. I had most of them on my PS2 like most racing enthusiasts. I'm not going to bite my tongue because they're severely lacking in updating their franchise with little more than they had in the earlier revisions.

Plus, I'm talking about the game, not the console. Try not to become so attached emotionally to your console of choice and bring the system when it's not even about that...

jynxce

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @ryivanV2: I understand AAA games cost a lot. I personnally, am on the fence. I know more content will be added. But I am put off by the grinding required to unlock cars, etc.

I'd like to contribute to their funds for developing, but at the same time, it's $40. If it were say $20 or even $30, I'd have an easier time. Especially since, being a demo, they can add and SUBTRACT at will and I'd have no recourse.

Plus, from what i hear, the old AI problems and the aforementioned race "grinding" to unlock cars are still there. the worst part from what i've read is that you really need to grind for at least 8 hours before you can get a decent car to take online and then you have no way of choosing race options. It kind of sounds to me like Mario Kart DS all over again, which is a bummer.

AverageJoes

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> who wants to bet we will not see a damage dlc anytime soon, or better yet, AT ALL for gt5p

busy

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @jynxce: You're kinda late to the party. This is thread about damage coming, not the announcement that Gran Turismo doesn't have half-assed damage like Forza.

FP_slomo788

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> Call me when the FULL game is released, then we'll talk.

jello44

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> By the way, I got this game for £18. How can you NOT buy it at that price?

I have no idea why but the UK got the best deal on this game. It was 40€ in Germany and appears to be a ripoff in the US as well.

Candlejack

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> I don't want damage, I always crash and end up having to reset my car which wastes precious time. I want speed, speed and speed.

Superstar90

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @jynxce: What? Crap gameplay & a small fanbase?

My apologies AverageJoes, didn't know quite what you were getting at. Besides, most of the people who complain about the lack of damage are people who don't even own the game. Or a PS3..

ryivanV2

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> Not seeing why people are moaning at prologue you'll get more hours of entertainment out of this demo than you will out of all the other shooter you've bought this year.

dsmx

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @ryivanV2: How is it silly? Everybody is complaining aboot damage and not having this or that. It's a demo, an unfinished version. but these people are acting like it's a finished product. It's not. So to complain about a voluntary demo that you're paying a lot for is silly to me.

AverageJoes

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> 5 iterations of the game and they still don't have what Forza 1 on the original Xbox had. Wow.

jynxce

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @LittleBigPlaneteer: Ok. That's fine. But that would mean the game would have 9 tracks and 105 cars or so. Was it that hard to read that I said it was overpriced and didn't really have 2/3 the content of the final product?

I mean what the fuck are you trying to say?

AverageJoes

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @AverageJoes:

Thats kind of a negative... and silly way of looking at it. Picture all these big hit games coming out, of which we all wait months and months for with expected delays. I know i for one would of loved to be able to get my hands on a taste of GTA a year or so ago.

But thats besides the point. The game has more content then a lot of full racing games out there. There is plenty to do. 16 player MP is a blast with or without damage and there is more free stuff on the way. Nobody is making you buy it, but i tell you what, i payed twice the amount for games like Hellgate London & Splinter Cell Chaos theory, and didn't get half the satisfaction i do from this game.

ryivanV2

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @LittleBigPlaneteer: I pick thee, GT5!!!

Candlejack

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> FUCK YES. FUCK YES!!!!!
That would be all.

IntelSilver

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @AverageJoes:

How about this reasoning:: 2/3rd's of a game for 2/3rd of the price? (Plus the Blu-ray documentary)

LittleBigPlaneteer

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> Why is everybody so upset about what amounts to a demo version? You know what is included and what isn't.

I know it's $40. Don't buy it. If nobody bought these GT Prologues, then they'd probably stop charging such an outrageous price.

I admit, it is a decent amount of content. But it's 2/3 the price of the full game. And if there's so much work to be done to get to the final version then, to me, it seems to be overpriced.

AverageJoes

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @ceilingfanboy:

That's pretty much my feelings about this.

LittleBigPlaneteer

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> Fall may be far away, but it's closer than anyone expected. In fact, people weren't expecting it for prologue at all, and maybe not even in the full release of 5.

ceilingFANBOY

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> @Candlejack:

Your other option is to wait for GT5 to be released, or you know, they never add damage ever.

LittleBigPlaneteer

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> Fall? Are you shitting me? That is AGES away. And what about private races and voicechat? That is more important to me.

I mean, I love the game. But I can't play it with my (real life) friends who bought it basically for that purpose including PS3, online? Are you for real? Goddamn, PSN.

/rant

Candlejack

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> But, but...the cars are so purty. -_-

Saint Anima

]]> <![CDATA[Gran Turismo 5 Prologue May Get Downloadable Damage As Early As Fall]]> I hate to say this, but...

Yamauchi, screenshots or it ain't happening. We've heard this point brought up so many times by now that the only way anyone's going to believe it is if he actually shows it off, even if it's just on a concept car they invented for the game.

Archaotic

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