fail!

freespeech

Shaoko

ssh83

Everyone is affected by advertising to some extent. There's plenty of studies that have proven this, not to mention the billions spent on advertising every year (because it works).

By advertising I was referring to videos, screen shots, impressions and reviews. Those (and other forms of advertising) don't convince me to buy a product, but they do have the capacity to raise my interest or simply inform me that it exists. In the case of Brawl, it didn't raise my interest sufficiently to even try it. That's more due to a disparity between the game and my preferences than due to any failure in the advertising itself though. Seems to be plenty of people who like the game (even if I don't understand why).

Btw, I've never said that Brawl is a bad game. I'm just not interested in buying it because it doesn't appeal to me.

I'm unsure what constitutes a "hardcore" gamer, but since you seem to have such insight into this broad category of gamers that can be generalized as having the same interests I'd love to hear how you define it.

I consider somebody a hardcore gamer if they actually go out of their way to look for info on games or spend more than 50% of their free time playing games. That description probably applies to most (if not all) of the Kotaku readership.
That's my definition, but feel free to use it if you like. ;)

Doshu

"If they can't grab me with their advertising, why the hell should I try it?"

The same brainless people who watch Oprah and Dr. Phil are the ones that are influenced by advertising. If you need an advertisement to convince you to buy a product you've got more problems then I can deal with in this post

"If they continue making the same old franchises with the same old game-play for the same old fans, the Wii is destined to do little more than the GC did for hardcore gamers."

I'm unsure what constitutes a "hardcore" gamer, but since you seem to have such insight into this broad category of gamers that can be generalized as having the same interests I'd love to hear how you define it.

NeoAkira

I'm yet to see anything on brawl (videos, screen shots, write-ups, etc) that makes me think: "I want to play that!". If they can't grab me with their advertising, why the hell should I try it?

FYI: I'm over 40. o.O

@Channing: Wait, so you'd fill out a form for a game you didn't buy? This confuses me on so many levels.

Stay confused. I get the impression that if you didn't realise I was talking metaphorically, explaining that I was wouldn't make much difference.

@tme2nsb: A lot of bitching from people who never bought it. ATTN: This survey is NOT FOR YOU.

Then maybe they should survey the people who didn't buy it to find out why? If they continue making the same old franchises with the same old game-play for the same old fans, the Wii is destined to do little more than the GC did for hardcore gamers. Sure, they're expanding the market for "casual" players, but nobody here can really call themselves a "casual" gamer.

While they're at it, maybe they could even survey people and ask what they think of their online service and what their online service should be like?

Doshu

Americo

Hey, I remember this song. I didn't know this was gonna be in the game, but it definitely is a loss.

Ninty Fanboy Justification #1038: The music is amazing.

Darthvinder

MaiAriSquee

Online is a problem? Hardly. I get one out of every ten games that have lag, other than that, it's great.

tme2nsb

kurokotetsu

Rebelphoenix83

skrame ☆

Just make it.

Pretty certain they'll wait for the next generation of systems to do it though, so we have plenty of time to wait.

Pezdispenser

xpnet

Honestly, how do you make a fighting game where you can't rip someone spine out and show it to them?

Tarmac

Beginning of the match... RISE FROM YOUR GRAVE!!!!! Down B can be different random transformations, smash ball = golden werewolf... god thatd be great.

Derigor

Would I buy the next one? Depends on how well they do it.

Cathaoir

@syrantking:You're not alone, that's exactly what I was thinking.

KM91

ChiltonGaines

Roto13

nxp3

Now that Camelot has finished their golf game, maybe they can finally get back to the Golden Sun series...

Arteen

But if they just squirted out another one, I might take a pass on it.

. . .

Aw shit, who am I kidding? I say that, but there's no chance in Hell I'd actually pass on it!

MR. FAP☆FAP!

Rustedfaith

robbo_the_hood

THEN I WOULD BE ALL OVER IT EVEN MORE THAN I AM NOW!

Superstar90

bluesquareapple

Brawl, in it's essence, is a simpler game than Guilty Gear, Tekken and DOA... but I don't have to master the art of double whole circles just to perform a triple diving suplex. If you want to go hardcore with Smash Bros. it's there. You can counter moves, memorize move priority, play with different tactics, blah blah blah.

Smash's Brawl mode is where it's at. I played Subspace a bit, and meh. It wasn't a painful experience, but it doesn't compare to just playing with friends. I'm sure online would be a more enjoyable experience with voice-chat, tastier matchmaking and a leaderboard, but that's just my opinion.

I would totally buy a sequel. Why? Because they've got plenty of time. They got the right idea with the offline multiplayer, now they just have to simulate that online. They've got at least 4 years to do it and I'm positive they'll become more online-oriented in the meantime.

Krackatoa

Jamie_W

"How likely are you to buy Super Smash Brothers Brawl?"

Not at all, until you release it to the other half of the western world.

Would be nice to at least have a release date... talking about sequels to English users when you haven't released it to half of them is just... more pissed off making. =/

Aprocalypse

Kenofthedead

pb00

I'll buy a game because I want a game. DLC sounds like it would be cool, but that's why it's downloadable, it shouldn't be necessary. It's not like it's a MMO.

I still need to buy Brawl, much less a sequel.

syrantking

TaMs

I'm still strongly in favor of the Duck Hunt Dog as a character.

Hrist

That's exactly my point. If Nintendo had set up a more "next gen" console in terms of having a built in HD then we'd see things like DLC get implemented. The fact that it lacks an HD, means things that would otherwise be DLC will likely get transferred into a new game. Sure it makes Nintendo more money, but it could be avoided right now if Nintendo thought ahead.

LittleBigPlaneteer

And it still isn't that fun.. It was fun for a little bit, but then the "meh" set in rather fast.. Maybe I'm just bitter about online play sucking royal.. I was really looking forward to it.

PlasmaMachine

Wait, so you'd fill out a form for a game you didn't buy? This confuses me on so many levels.

Channing

thejakeman has died of dysentry

Umm, wouldn't they need to have a HDD to do that?
But I agree with your point. I don't see a sequel having any new game play mechanics, so it could all be done with updates.

Personally, I'd be ticking the "Definitely not" box. I haven't bought/played any of the previous ones and I don't intend on buying the current or any future ones. The whole franchise un-excites me to the point where I haven't even thought about renting it.

Doshu

PlasmaMachine

TOCATL

soccerdrew17

kuraitenshikun

Velops

TheEngineer

@Klaymen:
Despite it being sort of a rehash of the levels you just did, it felt different to me. Going through rooms and what not while having a map, I guess, just makes me feel better. Castlevania style (the new ones, not the classic).

Channing

Online functions, however....well, that may be still up in the air.

dalvatron

Channing

If Nintendo decides to start building new character driven franchises we can talk about a sequel. However, I highly doubt they will, because Nintendo only wants to have one franchise in each genre. With platformer, adventure, shooter, racer, etc already covered, I can't think of any major genre that Nintendo can branch into.

Also, isn't this just one of the boilerplate questions that you get from Nintendo when you register software?

therationalpi

all this because the fighting system in brawl is an excellent way to equalize the massive power of some characters and express their uniqueness without unbalancing them. knuckles could have glide, tails could have pits flying ability, all of these things are already worked into the game.

thejakeman has died of dysentry

Also, the fact that Nintendo refuses to let you transfer your save data for Brawl was a headache and a half. I spent a long chunk of time going through SSE on co-op, only to realize Nintendo forced me to go through it again solo. GRRRR...

Klaymen

Who am I kidding? I'll probably buy it anyway.

Trowble (XBL/PSN)

Erwin

Now playing with my girlfriend (who loved it by the way, but not the rest of the game), contained jollity

As for a sequel, I've yet to be disapointed by the first three, so of I would buy another one.
Aye I would like better online, even if it's just the function to change game styles in random.

Oh and Bonk, so I can have a 16-bit war with him, Sonic, and Mario.

Kenofthedead

haracas

tajash

Channing

From what I can see, it doesn't do anything. I got one after registering EBA, and sadly, my one "Definitly purchase a sequel" didn't make up for the thousands of people who didn't buy it, either because they are afraid of Avril Lavigne or because they think pirating DS games makes them cool.

jasu78

RuneX

soccerdrew17

Also, it's about time Nintendo started adding some voice work to their game.

Also, it's about time Nintendo got some new characters/IPs.

ALSO, WHERE IS MY NEW PIKMIN GAME?!

Klaymen

I agree with JohnnytheFuture about the online, though. Playing with people on line isn't very fun.

Channing

Spartan1308™

Cause I totally would. Get started on it Nintendo. Chop chop.

I figure if they start now, they can have it ready by 2010, maybe 2011. And trust me, I can wait, Brawl's still got plenty of kick in it.

GhostWhoWalks

Compare this to a game like Virtua Fighter and Guilty Gear. Who outside of the hardcore VF fans who will recognize fighters such as Akira, Shun Di, Brad Burns? Fighting games are too complicated for the casual fan to pick up and play these days. Try learning all of GGXX's game mechanic's as opposed to Smash Bros. Shorthop Laser vs. Impossible Dust and Jump Install? Lastly, Fighters don't get as much coverage as say GTA and Halo.

I personally believe SFIV will be the next fighter to perform well. Bringing back the original 8 World Warriors satisfies criteria #1. Removing gimmicks such as CCs, VCs, RCs, Parrying and replacing it with easy to perform Saving Attacks satisfies criteria #2. And you better believe Ono is hyping IV up with all the interviews he's giving plus the amount of press sites such as Kotaku give it.

Hope that answers your question.

UmeShoryu

yeah me neither. MORE FUCKING MUSIC!

thejakeman has died of dysentry

Assuming a reasonable price, how likely are you to purchase a sequel to Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess?

Assuming a reasonable price, how likely are you to purchase a sequel to Metroid Prime 3: Corruption?

I could go on...

Bokusatsu_Tenshi

thejakeman has died of dysentry

Take away all the famous chacracters, and put a bunch of lesser known characters in it, and it won't sell. Just look at "Sega Tennis" vs "Mario Tennis"

LittleBigPlaneteer

Clstirens

And no, that will never, ever get old.

dowingba

So I'm guessing its more on the fanbase rather than the actual gameplay of Brawl. Just my opinion though. I'm also one of those people who doesn't appreciate Brawl's gameplay THAT much.

rhugghed

Dunny0, Team T/A

Clstirens

TheCleaningGuy

Krytha

Clstirens

Scipher

shikaningen

Which is another way of saying Gamecube V1.000000002

shikaningen

M

Erwin

Anemone

(and take his name)

Weaselfingers

Erwin

DRaGZ

Spartan1308™

And maybe playable Shigeru Miyamoto.

TheCleaningGuy

illmatic291

Megaman.
Vader.
Kratos.
Bomberman.
the Nesquick and Twix Rabbits.

ect.

Faradin

phnord

The-Blur

The Vampire Raziel

JohnnytheFuture

LittleBigPlaneteer