SolInvictus

gblock

WillyWonka

Demaar

maiky-nisute

Narynan

Hellgate told me I could get my D2 fix, it ended up as phail for me.

I am still waiting for countless nightmare loot-runs. Can this do it?...in current gen?

Fyren

Korey

JadedBlack

However, the point I'm trying to make by bring Halo up is that people shouldn't write this game off just because it hasn't had the most perfect development cycle.

If nothing else, we can agree on this:

1) Cautious interest in Too Human
2) 50 Cent: Bulletproof = Shit
3) People are morons (see sales of point 2)

Agreed?

BobbyBob

Bam345

It might be time to grow some perspective.

Maybe they just thought it sucked: some sort of even stupider ilovebees/Halo faux-documentaries. It's really not very well done, nor is it very interesting. As a mockumentary it's slightly more appealing, because then it's just not-funny, as opposed to, well, dumb.

obonicus

R3load

Bam345

okenny :)

Fury-genesis

i like the sound of the physical hit system, i always get pissed off when you fire a gun in an MMRPG and you get little taps of floating numbers and the annoying "Miss!" i hate it.

how can you miss?! your shooting it in a bloody corridor! im spraying! how can the bullets miss?!

i felt the same way in RTS, but thats what T.A and supreme commander saved me.

oh well, i should give Tabula rasa but i can't be arse, sinceit seems like it's dying. :/

dammn you WoW. :(

Onizuka-GTO

Motivated

7ucky

Eloquent, to the point, and easy to understand. Thank you for saving me the time of writing a post that would have captured the same points but lacked the aforementioned qualities.

Cow_Shed

What I WILL say (actually reiterate) is that all of the most recent impressions from those in the gaming press and dev community that got hands on time with Too Human at GDC spoke very positively of it. Even the individual at EGM that inadvertantly started the whole "Too Human is crap" mantra after the premature E3 2006 showing.

So it would be more ... constructive to focus on recent comments about the game instead of retreading the ultimately irrelavant history of the it. After all, we are gamers and not tabloid writers.

DARTH_TIGRIS

little_dragon

Xiedo

JorgieX

Sparth

Motivated

Dyack never denies that the game was, at some stage, on the three platforms I mentioned. He took a playable to E3 in '99 on the Playstation. He did interviews with press in 2003 saying it was on the Gamecube. Hell, it's not like I got the idea that the game was coming out on the Gamecube from anyone other then Dyack. Look at any interview he did in 2003 and it's full of him talking about how great it is to be working with Nitendo on Too Human.

So to return to your original comment - how can you take the position that Too Human was not on the Playstation, the Gamecube and the 360? Yes, it wasn't released on the first two - and I'd still give it even money that Epic will make sure it doesn't get released on the 360 either - but it was announced for each one, and development work was done for each platform.

Sometimes it's more important to UNDERSTAND what you read. A bit of critical thinking, you know?

Motivated

I'd like to join the group of people telling everyone to just sit back, take a deep breath, and wait before the game comes out to tear into it. Who knows? It could be a POS. I don't think it will be, but it could. But no one will know until it comes out.

BobbyBob

Komrade_Kayce

ThisCharmingMan

PsycheDiver

"Crispy Gamer: How far into development on PlayStation was the game when you decided to move it over to GameCube? How far were you into development on GameCube when you moved it over to the Xbox 360?

Dyack: It was pre-Alpha. Not as far as people think, actually. It stopped on the PlayStation because we became a second party of Nintendo. We had intentionally planned on bringing it to the GameCube all along once we became a second party; the timing just never worked out. Once we stopped the PlayStation version, we were never really actively in full development until the 360. We kicked some ideas around, and we did a couple of technology prototypes on the GameCube, but there was really no point at which I would say we had a full team on it, and it was definitely starting to move forward. Canonizing and talking about the story over the time has been just fantastic, and I think that gives us a real leg up as far as content goes. But as far as the actual full production goes, once we stopped the PlayStation version, we really didn't think about it nor was it ever in full production again until we moved it to the 360."

So, as you can see, I read the INTERVIEW. All 3 pages of it, in fact.

DARTH_TIGRIS

Barbara

"Too Human's journey throughout development has been an interesting tale that has had its low points and high points. Originally to be a five-disc PlayStation game for EA/MGM, the project was moved to GameCube when Silicon Knights signed on to be a second-party developer for Nintendo. After releasing both Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem and Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes, it was revealed that the company would break its exclusivity with Nintendo and develop Too Human for the Xbox 360, as well as another unknown project for Sega. "

Motivated

I think people have to understand that this is not the same Too Human that we saw at E3. At least, I hope it's not! :D

7ucky

Post of the year

Who the hell thought this video was supposed to be tongue-in-cheek? It's viral marketing

Watch the first Metal Gear Solid trailer and tell me how that is any less absurd than this. Watch any of the marketing video from Halo and tell me that you didn't have to suspend disbelief.

Sure there is a "gloriously awkward miss" in this whole story- however, its not made by Silicon Knights, its by the people who think this is a "mockumentary."

I'm not happy that SK has pushed this game repeatedly and had very little enthusiasm for the game. However, I'm now hoping that this game blows everyone out of the water so all these pathologic pessimists are proven wrong.

Snuffbox

Nexus6

DARTH_TIGRIS

And thanks to the others that took a stand here. Wilson really missed the mark here by a MILE. Its not 'cool' to bash this game, especially since even Dyack said the response at GDC from the many that had extended hands on time with the game was overwhelmingly positive.

Misinformation still is rampant about this game. Here's an excellent 3 page interview that lovers, haters and all inbetween should read to educate themselves properly about the game, its history and its future. Remember, ignorance is bad.
[www.crispygamer.com]

DARTH_TIGRIS

darkandlong

I'm hopeful for TH, but I think SK/DD have basically set it up for so much scrutiny its going to be rough.

The 1up guys seem genuinely interested and most of them are elistis jerks... So it can't be all that bad. Just figure out a release date already.

darkandlong

Plus, I still wonder if it will even be able to be released while all the suit and counter suit malarkey is going on. Could Epic get some sort of injunction to stop it's release?

Motivated

confused.....

That video was pretty funny, especially the Hockey Rink scene?? and the Director of the film "Howard Byrackk"? common Dennis Dyackk...

luigilogik

@Zombie999: @kabes: Fucking right on.

Bravo you guys.

I'm watching this and I can't help but get even more excited. Theres a stat for air juggling! How awesome is that.

This is like a dream game for me- Diablo/PSO looting, twitch gameplay, hundreds of thousands of armor/weapons combinations, norse mythology...

If you don't like action/rpgs, that's one thing. But watching the gameplay footage in this vid, nothing looks out of place or wrong- it looks to me like a possible 'best of genre' caliber game.

@Modus_Operandi: The chances of this failing... it's not going to fail man. It's just not. I get where you're going, but seriously- watch that gameplay footage- it looks like SK has pulled it off.

Not many games get me this worked up. Now on to watch the second half of the vid...

Madeira

Captain Internet

Stimpy

That said, connoiseurship involves skepticism and a modicum of objectivity. That's something any self-respecting consumer of ... anything should exercise. Hence my reservations about this.

As for humanity, it's not doomed. It's just not doing very well. :)

DaPress

Pluses: the video was quasi-original, quasi-interesting and the game looks a lot better than before.

Minuses: it's a bite from Halo's marketing, SK take themselves and Too Human waaaay too seriously and they are so self-conscious of this game failing that they are comparing it to Diablo or Warcraft to build hype. That, to me, is the number one reason to worry here.

Can you imagine Molyneux saying something like "Fable 2 is going to be big like Oblivion and there's going to moral choices like in Mass Effect?" Don't think so.

And what the younger scrawny type was saying about how exciting it is to loot obelisks, which are like treasure chests? Wow -- you're really selling me there, man. Never seen that in a game before!

DaPress

Dismissing this as a not-funny mockumentary is idiotic, it's not supposed to be Spinal Tap. "

Exactly. Kotaku needs to lay off the Too Human haterade, and maybe get educated in the process. Christ.

kabes

I can almost guarantee that the small percentage of people who are already hating on this game all want to PWN SUM NOOBZ in Halo4z.

This looks to be an ambitious game to say the least. I am so tired of all these crap games that have been coming out that it will be nice to see Too Human try something different.

Even if this game is a AAA title and is hyped, it is still an RPG which will segment most of the target audience.

Zombie999

delutz

Don't be a dick. It's one thing if the game sucks, or if something awkard and obnoxious was happening. But a sincere attempt to make a fictious documentary hinting at an ancient cycle of technology and history is fun and intriguing, and at *least* as worthy as any of the other threadbare premises that underpin some of the greatest games and scifi epics.

In a day when people scramble all over themselves to get 'spoiler alert' put everywhere, so that they don't have an experience ruined for them, why is it somehow ok to poison the well with backhanded comments so that people watch something with the wrong expectation and get no enjoyment out of it? If you'd just kept your half-assed opinion to yourself, I'd have probably watched it and had the desired reaction of being excited and interested. Instead, I'm sitting there waiting for it to go off the rails and hear yakkity sax playing in the background--which never happens.

It infuriates me that something like this gets shit on while the mindless, halfassed dead or alive/final fantasy mashup piece gets fellated by the softest mouths for page after page. Either appreciate artist's hard work on the basis of the fact that it *is* hard work, or develop a modicum of connoisseurship such that you can tell the difference between someone poorly posing dolls in a immitation of a vacuous tableaux utterly devoid of meaning or even exceptional execution, and work which, even if it misses the mark, is executed well.

Humanity is so doomed, it's beyond belief.

deathbunny

L_K_M

Exactly- I don't see what was supposed to be funny about it.

Snuffbox

WatershipDown

WatershipDown

armchairnixon sees you doing that thing there...

Modus_Operandi

It's too bad the requirement for that seems to be delays, and not game quality. I know the majority of you disagree with me, but after Assassin's Creed and Mass Effect, two MAJOR letdowns for me, I could care less about delays and promises if the game is at least fun or interesting to play.

Groodle

Frankly, I'm not even sure how well-marketed Too Human is, or will be or whether said marketing will be quoting Dyack.

More to the point, you and I know Dyack and SK and all that, but does the average gamer? Do they know about the infamous flameout or how much Dyack is hyping this game? I doubt it. Part of the problem with Daikatana was that it ran such a massive and intense ad campaign so that the game turned out to be a let down not just to the gamers that were into the whole "industry" side of things, but to everyone who saw the ads; it was turned into a wide-spread, massive failure.

PearceShea

Gadgetron

Having said that, I think the mockumentary thing at the end isn't supposed to be laugh-out-loud funny, it's supposed to be slightly amusing, and the main point is to set up the viral marketing for the game a la Halo 3. Here's the website: [www.norwegianfilmcommittee.org]

Hipple2

DranzerKire

So this anticipated game is. . . just grinding for items?

Dresarius

Dismissing this as a not-funny mockumentary is idiotic, it's not supposed to be Spinal Tap.

XbhaskarX

Sparth

No really, I'm so lost D:

Norellicus

The_nub_next_door

Modus_Operandi

TxKARATEDUDE

Dcbronco

Don't be fooled that this documentary was around before Too Human, it wasn't.

visionep

Cenobite

Madeira

i agree with you completely too.the vid sucked when the documentary started >< ill be watching out for too human.

Truepatriot

ps: sweet, I have that same Viewtiful Joe bobblehead.

GoGoGodzilla

Crawl to China

The films are clearly trying to set a tone and build a universe around the game which I thought worked very well, and it was nice to see someone attempting earnest sentiment instead of the almost-cliche wry-irony-worldview that's become so popular in pre-marketing.

Also, don't forget that this is clearly part one of a three part film.

This is from someone with absolutely no interest (or knowledge) about the game, but I enjoyed the piece a lot.

thebigsmoke

kennyd1

Taken like that I thought it was pretty cool. I have also seen some hate around here for it, but from the gameplay stuff I saw, it looked more like something I would want to play. I like the idea of 'kinetic' skill based third person combat in an rpg, if it's not dynasty warriors like, I will purchase.

DevCo

He says in the video they asked for permission to show it... it has nothing to do with Too Human.

Tenth

Gadgetron

Either way i'm in lurv with this game

@kingmanic: Yeah but its not like Too Human actually has been in development since 1999. It's merely been scrapped several times because of the limited hardware of previous generations.

The_nub_next_door

B33

Perhaps I'm an odd one, but I loved the Diary. Thought it was incredibly compelling. I don't think it was meant to be 'Har-har' funny, but thought it definately came across as beleivable to the point that it helps communicate the relative intrique of Too Humans story very well.

theALLseeingEYE

Zangetsu89

Grey_Fox

I thought it was pretty well-done and was an interesting video to watch. Too Human looks like its going to be a lot of fun too.

@Hipple2:

I get the same feeling

Snuffbox

PS: At this point no game 3d realms could make would be able to over come Duke Nukem's anti-hype. It would literally have to be the best game ever made to overcome it's anti-hype.

kingmanic

Lost Odyssey seemed pretty mediocre to me. I played some of that one before it came out and frankly, little snippets of gameplay just don't capture any of what's so compelling about that game. I guess you'd really just need to sit down and play a few hours to "get it." Had a similar experience with Condemned 2: I didn't think it looks much good. Sort of a nother Jericho. Turns out I love Condemned 2 and that love is born from equal parts of the story and the melee combat.

PearceShea

Gadgetron

djbrandon

Foggynotion

slightly funny. but no pay off. so it wasn't nearly as funny as it could have been.

they need to work on that dry comedy a bit more. hire wes anderson. or bill murray.

djbrandon

JudgementOfCrom2

LemonproX

schizogony

I just hope Too Human succeeds where Mass Effect fails. And I loved Mass Effect.

7ucky

Markyboy

Seriously though, that was interesting. I mean, the part about Too Human. Nice idea. Too bad that, judging by the delays just on the 360, it's Xbox's own HAZE.

Candlejack

OGHowie

Modus_Operandi

I get a vague sense of anti-Too Human sentiment from Kotaku. Maybe I'm just imagining things.

Hipple2

KindaGamey

Zootalor