<![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @Katorok:

old, move along!!!!!!!!

freespeech

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> it starts sounding like Harmonix doesn't want you to buy the game

olliverkirby

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> Comment on Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support If you disagree with this version of RockBand for Wii, please sign this petition ! http://www.petitiononline.com/rockwii/petition.html Hoping that players will be heard....

SutapaRattlesnake

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> Having played all three versions of Rock Band, it's worrying to me that they're dropping the character customization which is a rather large part of the attraction to the game.

I'm enough of a perfectionist that the lack of downloadable content isn't a big thing; I'll never be able to master all the songs there, and in time, they'll be Rock Band II. And they'll have a few extra songs, so props for that.

The lack of waggle isn't a problem for this game, and being unable to use a Guitar Hero III controller isn't really their problem, so that doesn't bother me. There will be a World Tour mode, and it'll be four player, so those essentials are down.

But the character customization is what makes it 'your band' when you're playing. Your persona up on stage, frets on fire, wailing on the mike, or slamming the beat down. Who hasn't spent a few hours looking through tattoos, buying new clothes and guitars. That's the carrot in Rock Band; playing to be good at Rock Band is a bit of a goal, but we keep playing to have our band come on stage in outrageous outfits, hairstyles, wielding sick instruments.

Six months late, we've got a zombie game. The brains might still be there, but we've lost the heart. And then someone will point to poor sales as proof that third-party games can't succeed on the Wii.

Well forget that. I'm going out and buying Okami. I'll wait for a real version of Rock Band.

wmcduff

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> I agree with Bioware, Port is a horrible word! God are these guys thick? May as well buy a Ps3 or 360 to avoid this horrible port!

Soyerz

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> Massive failure on their part I'd say. If it was fully featured and supported the guitar hero guitars I'd get it but as is I'm more hesitant.

SirGecko

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @RemyDuvalle: ...or for severely gimping the game in order to get it out on the system people are demanding it for because they know people will buy it gimped rather than working on making it as close to the same quality on the other systems as they can? There is no reason for the Wii version to not have online play. Sure, dealing with Nntendo's online is a pain, but it can be done. At least for the PS2, it's a last gen system and it is fair to use a thought process of hardcore gamers would not be buying this game for the PS2 because hardcore gamers would have upgraded by now to one of the 3 new systems. That doesn't work for the Wii, though. And to make this game a port of a port just seems extremely lazy. Additionally, my comment was more of a jab at people that keep making the same "wahhh EA is milking GH" comments.

ceilingFANBOY

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> Harmonix is completely half-assing this. I've played the PS2 version, and it is so bare bones...even Guitar Hero 1 had more features than PS2 Rock Band. There is absolutely no reason to release the same stripped down, bare bones, half-assed, outsourced game to Wii. May as well play the original half-assed game at that rate, the audience that has a Wii, doesn't have a PS2, and is interested in Rock Band must be a very tiny demographic indeed.

Illusion

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @Mr.SithNinja:
Music/rhythmn games have a broad appeal. As does the Wii. Rock Band could be a huge hit with the Wii.

... And perhaps that's why they're not giving it the full treatment.

BPMο

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @ Demonbird:

Awesome line, can't agree with you more. This has caused me to be the biggest advocate of next-gen gaming while also being the biggest hypocrite.

I'll pass on the Rock Band for the Wii.

RotatingRingKing

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> Wow I can't believe I got 2 responces that were intelligent and not some raving fanboys! :-)

@Shanesan:
You are right Nintendo could push out a FW update that allows for USB HD support. I will tell you they don't. If they did, they would also have to manufacture their OWN external HD. That will push the price point of the Wii (for it to be complete) another $100 (roughly). Now all the sudden, the Wii is in the same pricing bracket with the 360. The Wii's bread and butter are the Wiimote and it's price point.

@BPM X: Soul Eraser:
You are right. It's current gen now, but I said that to draw a comparison point.

It is Nintendo's fault realy.... I am thinking that because the way that the Wii is marketed that the devs don't realy take it seriously. They don't want to put in the effort to re-code for a Wii version that would make it shine. They figure that the margin is smaller ( only a $50 price point for games, granted RB is different ) and there is no HD to cash in on a ton of DLC, so why bother spending more money to dev it? I know it sucks but that is one of the reasons why I said that the Wii version of cross platform titles will always be gimped.



Mr.SithNinja

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> I only own a Wii and i was really looking forward for Rock Band (as an example, i only own GH3 and Mario Galaxy on Wii). But now this just make me feel i wasted my money on the Wii, i have fun with it and playing Wii Sports with my family/friends or solo games like Zelda but really, if i could trade in my console for a 360 or PS3 i would do it without thinking twice, i'm a fan from Mario Bros but fuck it, it's not really worth the console if you can't have real games on it, because everyone knows it can be done, they just don't want to.

KamuZ

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> Harmonix why have you forsaken the wii? Why? Damn they freaking got lazy. Perhaps its not Harmonix's fault maybe its more on EA's side to try and get a product out there to try and make bank. My hopes for a good version of the game have just gone up in smoke. I mean how hard is it to make your game read guitar controllers universally? Isn't Nyko's frontman series universal? This is a disappointing announcement.

mangomonkeyboy

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @Mr.SithNinja:
A mostly good post, but here's the thing:
The hardware doesn't determine if something is "next-gen" or not (And FYI, there's nothing "next-gen" about 360 or PS3, either, since they're AVAILABLE NOW ;P), but the time-frame in which they're released in.
Wii, 360, and PS3 are all current-gen systems. They are all part of the seventh generation of game consoles.

The only thing Wii can't compete against PS3 and 360 in is the graphics department. There's no reason why Rock Band Wii can't be as feature-rich as the PS3 and 360 versions. It does have internal storage (granted, much smaller than even the 360 Pro's HDD) and support for SD cards (up to 2GB, unless support for SDHC is somehow added). It does have an online service, if a bit ass-backwards compared to Xbox Live and PSN.
The fact is the Wii version COULD deliver the full Rock Band experience, but for one reason or not, it doesn't.

BPMο

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @Mr.SithNinja:

To be blunt, Nintendo could easily add hard drive support to their system. They have the online patches and they have the USB power to do it. The thing is that they don't ~choose~ to do it for God knows why.

Secondly, it's not hard to take out some of the "graphic power" of a game such as Rock Band by reducing the polygon count and some of the smoke effects. Everything that Rock Band has for the "bigger consoles", perhaps apart from the Rock Shop, can be replicated on the Wii.

Harmonix chose to not do such a thing. Doesn't make the Wii bad. Makes Harmonix lazy, and Nintendo stupid for gimping the video system of their console to increase their profit margin a couple bucks in the short term while missing out on huge potential in the long term.

A little bit of work (6 months worth is more than enough, as what Harmonix is getting) can easily make any game compatible with Wii. Harmonix chose to not to try, and the only one getting harmed here because of it is EA's Wii Sales and Nintendo itself, as people, as shown, will buy a 360 or PS3 for this game.

Shanesan

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @Ninja-Z: Great Ninjas think alike. XD

Mr.SithNinja

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> This is why I have been saying that the Wii should be a SECONDARY (or in my case a tertiary) console. Any cross platform product will always be gimped.

You people should know this by now. How the hell do you demand DLC on a console that has NO HARD DRIVE!! I know the the VC is nothing but DLC but those are very small files and fit easily on a 2gb SD card. If MS is capping DLC size because their HD space is 20GB (at maximum) and is considered too small, then that makes the math simple.

How can you expect a $250 console to match up with the big boys? This also adds to the argument that the Wii is not or should never be considered a NEXT GEN console. I mean come on, a PS2 port? It is what it is. You people need to stop trying to make it what it is not. Hardware wise, it is not a straight up competitor to the 360 or PS3.

I know not everyone can afford all systems or even 2 out of 3 for that matter, but you can't buy a Wii and expect to get EVERYTING that the other consoles get. I enjoy the Wii for what it is. I enjoy the other systems for what they are. Despite what the fanboys on all sides say, they CAN all live together in harmony.

The bottom line is, if you want next-gen features then buy a next-gen console. Until then, STFU and enjoy your VC.

Mr.SithNinja

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> I'm kind of confused as to why Guitar Hero controllers work with Rock Band on the Xbox360 and the PS2, but not other platforms. If their story is true, why isn't this issue more uniform, particularly with respect to the PS2? Also, this being a PS2 port is utter bullshit.

shimage

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @Diamondblade: Yes, because game companies from other countries do everything so much better/ sarcasm, eye roll.

I_Hate_This_Place

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @YOBNAFgniliec: You mean by supplying the game in the only convenient way for them to the ever-growing legion of fans demanding a Wii release?

Yeah, fuck HARMONIX! /idiot.

RemyDuvalle

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> So can we start complaining that Harmonix is milking this franchise yet?

ceilingFANBOY

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> This is the sort of game that you need all the content to fully enjoy, and while I love my Wii dearly, I got a 360 for games like RB so I wouldn't have to get the watered down version.

Wii60? Probably.

Ninja-Z

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> First is that the game's almost a straight-up port of the PS2 version
DING, Incorrect answer
That's all I need to know to not consider this a purchase. I can't believe it... fuck I hate American game companys...besides Valve.

Diamondblade

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> And as for the GH3 controller support, considering they're releasing this game post-Activision's attempts to block support on the other consoles, it's kinda obvious that they wouldn't be adding that support... since it's not like there was already a guitar hero controller adapter for the Wii.

RemyDuvalle

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @excel_excel: And you don't seem to realize that Rock Band for PS2 looks better than both the Wii and PS2 versions of GH3, as it's a video of the game being played on 360/PS3.

The PS2 version of RB actually looks pretty damned good. It was even outsourced to another company, which is why the UI and HUD look a little sloppy... but overall it looks good. Plus, load times are almost non-existent because they're simply loading a video file instead of real time in-game models.

And like I said in my earlier post, Harmonix has been saying that RB was always realized as a next-gen game, technically speaking... making a fully realized Wii-version almost impossible without starting from scratch.

It's a fucking rhythm game. As long as they have the right timing mechanic and fun sequences, who the fuck cares anyway?

I'm just arguing against the bitches that are whining about this being the PS2 version when they haven't even played it.

RemyDuvalle

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> You all do realize that the PS2 version of Rock Band isn't all that "gimped", right?

I mean, they basically just removed the intro/outro animations so that songs start right up after they load. And all gameplay footage is actually just a video of the PS3/360 version playing, instead of real time PS2 models.

Additionally, the load times are pretty great, as it's just loading a simple video and the note charts.

While the UI and HUD look a little uglier, the PS2 version, during gameplay, is actually not bad looking at all. I mean, it still looks way better than GH3 on PS2.

Harmonix has said from the beginning that Rock Band was built for the next generation of consoles... and I think they meant that technically, so unless they wanted to start from scratch again, there was nothing that could be done for the Wii version aside from half-assed Wii-centric abilities.

I own the 360 version, but I'm forced to play the PS2 version when I find a chance to play at work and it's seriously not that bad.

RemyDuvalle

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @Kapaaian: Exactly. No one seems to release that Guitar Hero Wii had better graphics than the PS2 version....anyway? what the fuck?? Why don't you at least give us wireless controllers??
and someone pointed out that on PS2 rockband you can USE the Guitar Hero controllers. Meaning that the Wii version is the worst version. Absolutly un-fucking-acceptable

excel_excel

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> Alright, if the sound-corrected GH3 units are shipping now then this is no contest. Hell at this point I'll give Battle of the Bands a shot. At least that game looks Wii-specific.

Brawl had stages you could save to an SD card and transfer from Wii to Wii. Nintendo didn't implement this, but IGN had the workaround. What's to say Harmonix couldn't do something similar with an online store? They took 7 months to release a gimped port that didn't take advantage of the system's strengths and offered minimal compensation (5 songs? Should've been at least 20). They aren't getting my money.

OneGuy1

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @TheFinalMario: Then those guys are idiots. You can play the single player mode JUST LIKE GH. But instead of just playing guitar, you can play drums and sing. There is no requirement to have multiple people for RB to be fun. Trust me. I play alone all the time.

Fatmumuhomer

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> Unfortunately, this is all Rock Band's developers fault.

Any "gimping" of the graphics is just laziness for not wanting to code a 3rd graphical version. No one can look at Brawl or Galaxy and say that could have been done on the PS2. Especially Brawl because, lookey, lookey, Four player simultaneous inputs. All running at a great frame rate. The wii is admittedly between the last gen consoles and the ps3/360 in terms of power, but that doesn't mean it had to be gimped. It just meant it needed its own version.

As for online, that is also their fault. Now personally, I do agree with those that think online for Rock Bank is kinda counter to the whole experience, but plenty of people don't, so it should have been there. But we've seen decent online experiences in games on the Wii from 3rd parties. MOHH2 for instance.

DLC. Well, on a personal note I think that it is a bad genie that has been let out of the bag just like updates for console games. Product testing has taken a giant nose dive now that the "next-gen" powerhouses can just fix mistakes later. DLC is now a way to get more money from people. Why not release all of the DLC in nice large packs equal to the original game? Let's see, I pay 60 dollars for a game and 60 some songs (a la cart assumed price for RB eventually). Why should I pay just as much for half the songs alone? oh, because they're now milking...

Anyhow, Harmonix is the problem. They were Lazy. Nothing nintendo did is preventing them from making a great next gen version of Rock Back.

Kapaaian

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> what a waste of an opportunity. They could have done something totally different for the Wii but they got lazy and just regressed.

tralfaz23

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @Thrillhaus: You win an internet.

I was so looking forward to this...but now I'm just not going to buy it. I spent many weekends at my friends apartment playing it on the 360, crossing my fingers that the Wii would still retain most of the same features as the 360 version. But, hm, no character creation, no GH support, no World Tour? I'll buy a PS3 or 360 someday and just buy it for that. Ridiculous. Yes, the Wii is not as powerful as the PS3 or 360, but it can certainly handle the features that those systems had (albeit with toned down graphics). Because I thought it was taking so much time, I thought Harmonix was actually adding in some good stuff. But no. They just sat in an office shouting "LOL PS2 PORT" and ordered Chinese for the past few months. I just won't be buying this.

Wreckoner

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> well, i have no reason to buy this now. which i guess is good. saves me the cash.

teh_joe

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> Wii rock band is a port of the PS2 rockband which is a port of the PS3 one. Its like the fourth guy in Multiplicity. A copy of a copy is not as good as the original.

Atrius

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> Suddenly my PS2 version doesn't seem so bad. At least I can use the GH guitars with it.

JustJake

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> Oh please. Well let's go and blame Activision as we're instructed:

ACTIVISION, WHY?!

I'm not sure if I even buy it anymore. -.-;

Tzibo

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> Any word on downloadable content. That's what really makes Rock Band in my opinion.

AaronMD

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> I didn't get it for PS2, PS3 or 360 because it's not wireless. I won't get it for Wii for the same reason. Guitar Hero is good enough for me. Rock band can suck it.

manywaters

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> Lol... Harmonix is the definition of /facepalm.

Harmonix: "For the wii version, we will be tailoring it specifically to the strengths of the platform."

Us: Okay, sounds promising. The wii has online, so the game will have online content right?

Harmonix: Um... no.

Us: Thats too bad. Well, the wii has miis, so the game will have mii character incorporation then?

Harmonix: Um... no.

Us: Hmm. At the very least, the wii has the wiimote which allows for easy wireless peripheral implementation. Surely we'll get that right, with some nifty waggle support on the side?

Harmonix: Um... no.

Us: Wtf. So which of the wii's strengths exactly are you tailoring the game to then?

Harmonix: Umm... the drums are white?

/facepalm

Thrillhaus

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> Harmonix has already explained why BWT and Create a Character wouldn't work on the ps2, considering the wii has about the same graphical power, i'm not surprised it's a port of the ps2 version.

a port of a port? ewwwwwww

DesmondHume

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> No worries... cuz I won't be buying this crap.

Livid

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @TheFinalMario: One word.

Cowbell.

The_Antihippy

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> Wanna know know the sad part about all of this? As crappy as this port is, and all of the BS that surrounds it, none of our complaints will amount to a single thing.

Because this game WILL sell.

If for no other reason than the fact that it happens to be on the Wii.

And sales are about the ONLY feedback that companies seem to care about these days.

MightyKAC

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @Aflack: Likes slushies: Yeah, and nobody twisted Harmonix's arm into outsourcing the PS2 version in the first place, or the Wii version now.

Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @Torgen thinks AAA means "Costs $60": *shrug* Maybe it doesn't. Or maybe it's does because this wasn't developed by Harmonix or EA. They probably don't have the perks the other guys do. Or they are just being lazy, it is afterall a port. I don't know either way but I feel like I've said this before.

Aflack: Likes slushies

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @gtc: Somehow I get the feeling the Wii version will be seeing additional content discs (ala Karaoke Revolution, Dance Dance Revolution, etc) rather than DLC.

Captain Impulse

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @slash000:
You are aware that all the background stuff is a movie on the ps2 right because the hardware was barely able to run the game with 4 inputs at progressive scan, and that instead of making the game look like ass and include an incredibly striped down character creation mode they chose prerenderd stuff. Not to mention World Tour Mode is useless if you can't make a unique band.

boxofthegods

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> Personally BWT, graphics, character creation, etc . . . I don't give much of a crap. It's a music game. No DLC is limiting the music.

Thank god my neighbor already has the 360 version. I wouldn't waste the $170 on half of what I want the game for.

gtc

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> Hmm...hopefully they can work out some form of DLC. Rock Band's fun but after a while, playing the same songs can get tiring.

Captain Impulse

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> This games doesnt matter, I dont care really. Give me Guitar Hero 4 with way better stuff, like chracter creation, and a guitar that does more, a phenominal song choice that can span songs from GH1 to Gh3 and some more stuff. Also know 2 guys with 360's who have rock band and only played it once, not because they dont like it... They dont always have the friends to play it. So that was a waste of how ever much money they had wasted on it.

TheFinalMario

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> No nothing. No purchase.

StrikerGold

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @Aflack: Likes slushies: Harmonix is owned by MTV and published by EA. I don't see how company size has any bearing here.

Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @gamepete64: No I do not work for Harmonix but supporting games/game companies does not instantly make you a brownnoser/wannabe employee/fanboy, I've owned Rock Band since November 20th and I am finding myself turning the game on all the time and just hitting quickplay and playing 2 or 3 random songs. The game is just fun. Is there something wrong with that?

@Torgen thinks AAA means "Costs $60": Rock Band, in all reality, is not really meant to be enjoyed as an online experience. Sure, I play it with friends over Xbox Live 90% of the time but still it's real intention is to get 4 people in the same room just having a blast, rockin' out.

@MrGlass: Actually, it does mean the game has to be technically inferior. Rock Band is a pretty intense game graphically (just watch how much stuff is all happening at once) and while that is important, to process 4 people playing at the same time, everything going on on-screen, and to keep the game running at a lag-free framerate it requires some compromises to be made without proper technical power.

Lemming To The Sea

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @Torgen thinks AAA means "Costs $60": And I'm sure that Activision is in a entirely different league then the developer of Rock band Wii. Harmonix itself doesn't come close to Activision.

Ever since reading Sakurai's words on Brawl's development I'm just trying to be more careful about calling a developer lazy.

Aflack: Likes slushies

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @BPM X: Soul Eraser:
"compatability GOES"... >_<;;

BPMο

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> No DLC? That's fine. I find it an overpriced scheme, anyways.

Everything else missing from PS2 version? No good. I mean, even GH3 for Wii has online multiplayer.

---

Oh, as far as controller compatability does... Seems like Rock Band Wii's controllers are just recolored versions of the 360's: all wired through USB. At least, that's what I'm lead to believe from this mini-FAQ on Joystiq... So, yeah. These aren't even Wii Remote accessories.

BPMο

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> I have the PS3 version, and I have to say that the DLC is at least half of the experience for me. Once you've played through as a band, it's nice to be able to pick up with a slew of new songs. I got real tired or Mississippi Queen and Say It Ain't So real fast. This lack of DLC makes me wonder why they are even bothering with this gimped port.

TitillatedOcelot

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @MrGlass: I dont know, there must be a reason since at first they were releasing patches to use the GH controllers and now they are not.

You can be sued for releasing a nonlicensed game on a system and since they are a real company they cant just do whatever they want and not expect to get sued. Otherwise no one would ever pay license fees to Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo.

JustinS

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> Im buying it, who cares about DLC? I dont I will play the same songs over it's not killing me with Guitar Hero 3 on Wii and im not getting this because all of the people I know are noobs with video games, so no... I like the Singularity of Guitar Hero anyway Rock Band just takes it to a whole new level of Geekism.Nothing but the G4, Gamespot, tech blog, hype machine just as they all did with GH when it first came out, now they all turned their backs on GH and soon enough when It's revealed that you cant do anything else pass adding Drum, Mic, and Guitar or 2 to the mix that it will run it's self out faster than GH did, I still see many innovations in GH, but I cant understand the hype behing Rock Band and I cant see where it can go pass it's accesories that it already has.

TheFinalMario

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @MrGlass:
Oh my god, I honestly didn't think about factoring in that insanely expensive rock band controller. This just keeps getting worse.

Demonbird

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @Lemming To The Sea: Just because it doesn't have as much horsepower doesn't mean it needs to have inferior games. I could care less how pretty looking the CG characters are, what i want is innovative and fun gameplay, and thats what the wii is about.

Oh, and you do realize that this game, along with 1 extra guitar, is gonna cost more than the system did at launch?

MrGlass

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> Nintendo Wii: one step forward ten steps back since November 2007

Demonbird

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @Aflack: Likes slushies: Well, they were easy enough for Activision to jump through, and they didn't have to release their Wii version 7 months after the X360 and PS3 ones.

Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @JustinS: I remember reading that a while ago, but i still dont get why they dont just release it. Dozens of unlicensed games come out for the consoles all the time, theres no law against making a compatible piece of software.

There might have been an issue with the other systems because there are some laws against reverse engineering. But that doesn't apply here - the guitar is just a retooled classic controller, so they could use nintendo's specs to write it.

MrGlass

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @Lemming To The Sea:

Do you work for Harmonix or something. You need to open you eyes and realize that RB for the Wii is going to be CRAP!!!!

I was really looking foward to RB Wii(even though I'm not a big fan of music rythym games) but it just became a no-buy for me. I'd rather buy the 360 version.

gamepete64

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @Lemming To The Sea: GH3 Wii had online multiplayer and limited customizability. RB Wii will be a port of the PS2 version, which had no online multiplayer and no customizability, and an otherwise downgraded version of the campaign mode.

Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @Torgen thinks AAA means "Costs $60": Actually I'm pretty sure that devs would have to go through Nintendo's various hoops to set up online gaming. These 'hoops' are not easily passed. So it's not always the case of the devs being lazy.

Think of it like this, a dev wants to put a game on XBL that surpasses the file size. But because this restriction is only lifted for certain games or companies they can't. By making a smaller game the're not being lazy the're following Microsofts rules.

This 'could' be the case of lazy devs. But given Nintendos history it could very well be a case of a developer following Nintendos rules.

Aflack: Likes slushies

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @Lemming To The Sea:

I paid $90 for GH3 and I'm fine with that. I still refuse to pay $70 for a second controller however. SO for a $200 game bundle to refuse me the ability to use my already existing guitar hero controller, that is unacceptable. I'd be paying more than twice I did for GHIII and obviously be getting a less quality game.

Especially since they seem to have taken out even the basic online mode that even GH 3 has.

NeoAkira

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @EggmaniMN:
Wow, I didn't know that it had solo frets. That's pretty cool. I don't play GH or Rock Band, but my friends who do always said it would be cool if the next GH guitar had solo frets.

TheEngineer

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @Lemming To The Sea: Pansies? or just concerned consumers?

Barob

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> It took'em this long to make a port?

I don't think my store can handle any more Rock Bands and Guitar Heros. Although they're fun to make forts with.

ServiceMaster

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @stealthpengu: I stand corrected!

Luke Plunkett

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> You're a bunch of pansies. The game is still really effing fun (especially in comparison to guitar hero) without the things that the Wii version will be lacking. If you spent $90 on GH3 for Wii (and obviously you did and have no problem with your games not having DLC when the other versions do since GH3 was the same way... and by buying the Wii you knew full well it wouldn't be up to snuff with real next-gen consoles), you owe it to yourself to buy a fun rhythm game in the form of Rock Band on June 22nd.

Lemming To The Sea

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @Torgen thinks AAA means "Costs $60": Basically.
@Katorok: Not necessarily graphics playing a part, but yes on the online portions. They de-emphasized online interactions. That's all.

Megan Fox Iz Hot! ^-^ - ph15h

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @Polywhirl: Except of course that whole 'incompatiblity with GH controllers' thing... Yeah the first GH is the last one I'm gonna buy, get bent Activision. < / 3

DarkTetsuya

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> Was anyone really expecting something else?

ca$h

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> *insert farting noise here*

gec05

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> Thank you for the information. I won't be purchasing their game. That's too bad they made those decisions, but I'm voting with my money.

Cerif27

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @Luke Plunkett: rock band wii has white controllers, thus it's been specifically tailored. good day, sir.

stealthpengu

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @MrGlass: Go to the link in the orginal post here.

[kotaku.com]

JustinS

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @Katorok: I understand the online limitations imposed by Nintendo, but am referring to the stripped-down version of the World Tour on the PS2, which I would assume will be untouched in the port to the Wii. There is NO reason for this. You can cram a ton of shit on the high-density discs on the Wii. Make it happen!

I know, same-old rant from someone new, but I just felt the need to express my disdain for this bastardization of Wii games.

Barob

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @TheEngineer: Rocking the Goggles:

People have differing opinions but I'd say god no the RB controller is miles better. The solo frets are also the best addition US guitar games have seen.

EggmaniMN

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @slash000: They are not allowed to add support into the game. They are simply not allowed to do it. It doesnt matter how easy it would be its not allowed.

There is a link to that story in this one.

JustinS

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @Katorok:

I forgot Rock Band was such a graphically-centered game. Great analysis there.

NeoAkira

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @JustinS: Whats stopping them? last I heard, there was no law against making unauthorized software for a product.

MrGlass

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @TheEngineer: Rocking the Goggles: Yeah, that one stinks. Total contradiction. The Wii's ONLY strengths are motion controls, so packing in a PS2 port that DOESNT use motion controls is...tailoring what, exactly?

Luke Plunkett

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> Big surprise there, the wii version's gimped.

i guess that would make sense, since the wii's gimped too!

SoulPunch

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> BTW, is the GHIII controller better than Rock Band's?

TheEngineer

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> Not even GH3 support. Seriously. It's an attachment that plugs into the Wii Remote. An attachment that plugs into the Wii Remote. There is no proprietary wireless signal to deal with here. The GH3 controller is basically a glorified classic controller with much larger plastic base.

Damnit.

slash000

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> Wow this has gone from the game I most wanted to buy, to the game I least want to buy.

No GHIII, no DLC = FAIL

Klaymen

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @MrGlass: They are not allowed to add it. They probably would if they could.

JustinS

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> OK, now I'm convinced.

This is pathetic.

This is shit. How hard would it have been to include a World Tour? A create a character? There's nothing about the PS2 or the Wii hardware that precludes that. Nothing at all.

I could have lived without DLC. But give me a break.

Guitar Hero pretty much proved that a good social music game can sell well on the Wii.

This was MTV Music and Harmonix and EA's time to shine, to really take advantage of a great brand, a great game, and the vast Wii market by delivering a product that they could all be proud of, and Wii owners could appreciate.

But instead they resort to this shit. Thanks a lot.

slash000

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> So their previous statement: "During Rock Band for the Wii development Harmonix focused on making the core gameplay experience as solid and enjoyable as possible while tailoring it specifically to the strengths of the platform," can be translated into "Bullshit goes here" then?

TheEngineer

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @Torgen thinks AAA means "Costs $60": @Barob:

The problem is that Nintendo does have a part in this.. Nintendo made a console that is both graphically weaker, and really behind in terms of online gaming..

Katorok

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> The no GH controller thing is bull. The GH III controller works the same way as the classic controller, and it took about a day for people to interface with it on the PC. I'm sure harmonix could add it in 5 minutes if they wanted to.

MrGlass

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> I honestly hope that Activision launches an attack campaign against this game. No one should drop nearly $200 on this turd, not even mom and dad wii gamers.

t0yrobo

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> Gimped PS2 port confirmed!

(its sad really)

deathsyth8888

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @Polywhirl:

At least Guitar Hero III for the Wii had some online battle modes...

Hiro0015

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> Hmm, yeah. I'll get the PS3 version when I have the money. This would be nice for people who like group play with the Wii, and for a quick party game. Basically people who don't care about DLC and just wanting to play.

Saint Anima

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> It's such a shame that companies don't give Wii games the time they deserve, knowing that just being on the system, there's a good chance they are going to make a profit. Yes, there are some technical limitations, but a straight port of the PS2 version? Bullshit.

Take the money I (and others) gave you for the 360 and PS3 versions, and put some more effort into this version!

Barob

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> @ph15h: You're blaming Nintendo for Harmonix outsourcing development to the same studio who unnecessarily gimped the PS2 version?

Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> Yeah, if this is a direct port of the PS2 version, then no World Tour Mode.

I was going to wait for the Wii version of Rock Band, but boy, am I glad I picked up a 360 a few weeks ago, along with Rock Band.

MaxSteele

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> It feels stripped... Damn You activision and Nintendo's closed Online Gaming.

Megan Fox Iz Hot! ^-^ - ph15h

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> So no character creation or DLC?
Or World Tour Mode?
Might as well call it "Guitar Hero".

Polywhirl

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> Well, that's it. I'm not buying it.

Evin

]]> <![CDATA[Rock Band Wii: No Waggle, No GHIII Support]]> Zing!

Katorok

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