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Cheodo

Clearly you missed my point, but since you want to analyze it too clearly. Good job!

EnigmaNemesis

reptile168

Amazon_Chris

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA! Freaking hilarious! Best responces ever!!

I actualy bought the PS3 version, played though it, then traded it for the 360 version because it was the one all my freinds had bought (plus I am becoming an achievemnet whore). So, I got your angle there.

Mr.SithNinja

Kritikul

Liopleurodon

BTW, unfortunately, we haven't seen the most intense parts of the invasion (namely: Omaha Beach) in COD or next-gen in general yet. I'd like to experience that in full HD (or even 720p) with 5.1 surround. Man that could be incredible.

Other than that, we can milk WW2 shooters as long as I don't grow tired of 'em, obviously!!! lol :D

Candlejack

I think the main reason its going to, and has lasted for so long, is because it gives new stuidos and developers a chance to worry about making a game, instead of coming up with tons of new material and concepts. Its a great entry point into the industry.

CrimzinD

That's nice reading comprehension skills you have there. The subject wasn't new popular games taking over older games, it was how older games can find new ways of releasing additional content so that they don't get lost in the new release shuffle.

Longevity vs new experiences, not old vs new. Thanks for playing though.

whiptcracker

I understand the appeal, it was the last war where there was very little ambiguity about right and wrong on a moral level. Very little gray area on who were the good guys and who were the bad guys. I get it.

But, in all honesty, how many games can you REALLY invade Normandy before it gets old?

Personally, I've played a handful of CoD titles, and 0got bored with them immediately. There is really only one "WWII" style shooter that's held my attention for more than a week, and that was Resistance: Fall of Man because it was more interesting than what I've watched on the History Channel and played in games before.

I simply love Call of Duty 4. The single player is fantastic with a storyline that actually addresses the fact that there is gray area in modern warfare, that war is not glamorous and the good guys don't always ride off into the sunset like in the movies. That's wher the game breaks convention. As for the multiplayer, while it loses all of the conscience and moral context of the campaign, it's so exciting it hurts.

Does it reinvent the genre? Nope, it just gets it all right... and innovates enough (perks, air strikes, etc.) to make it more than average.

Evil J

ironice

You would figure that so many people love a game like COD4 that there wouldn't be a problem with fracture. I'm betting that it will be just as bad, but maybe less noticeable because of the number of players.

Like on PC these expansion maps on a game like COD4 should be free. At least eventually free even if they charge up front, then make them free x months later. That ensures a game this good will get played for years rather than months.

crashlanding

I don't have it for the PS3 and probably never will buy it either - it's an average shooter in my eyes. Played it on the PC to know that.

No doubt, Call of Duty 1 and 2 were waaay superior in comparison of their respective timeframe. Man, CoD1 was absolutely groundbreaking. The atmosphere, everything. Then, CoD2, was just awesome.

Well, there were some CoD fuckups, like those by Treyarch. But CoD4 simply can't deliver to a CoD-fan since day one. Infinity Ward needs to go back to WW2 for the atmosphere that CoD4 lacked in my eyes. Probably it's just the whole anti climactic, depressing, dangerous and unpredictable feeling which WW2 brings with it.

Candlejack

inajeep

I am 100% sure its the same disc we've seen for the past couple months, but with "GOTY" on the package.

ManjiKengo

This is exactly why I don't buy premium maps, no matter what they do you're still splitting the player base up between the have's and have not's. It's nice when they make it easy to not want them by charging too much for too little.

I'm really curious to see how they handle the maps for the PC release. No one charges for maps on PC.

I mean, we're at the point where PC players could miss out on maps because they're charging for them on 360 (COD4) and console players are missing out on maps because they are *free* on the PC (Team Fortress 2). How insane is that?

We always hear the propaganda that it costs money to develop these maps so they have to charge for them, yet smaller studios like Epic and Valve have no problem with supplying more content for free than Bungie or IW will make at a premium. Something doesn't add up.

skullivan

Evil J

Personally, while I'll probably buy the maps anyways when they hit the PSN, I won't count on playing them much... but... that's ok because this game is just so sweet-ass-sweet.

Evil J

Also, with the DLC is there any chance for new achievements, new challenges or (and I doubt this but I REALLY WANT IT) split-screen coop OR split-screen online play?

beckerist

Sorry, had to do it!

No, seriously, as for PS3... yes, there are plenty of players, and yes, it is one of the greatest games ever. My friends and I all own it (except for one, and we will soon force him to purchase it) and our wives/girlfriends hate it when we get together because all we talk about is COD4... create-a-class setups, funny kills, etc.

It's really... sad, actually.

Evil J

Zanch

P.S. - To those who were talking about valve, the TF2 maps might not be free either. Microsoft has say in price.

Liopleurodon

bluesquareapple

SAKY

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fourzerotwo.com doesn't mention a price though.

If the pack came out a month ago I probably would've considered it, but in between Vegas 2 and GTAIV? Not gonna happen at 800 points. I'll download the Halo 3 Heroic Pack since it'll be free and mess around with that if I want a change from Vegas 2.

skullivan

StupidDufus

SAKY

AlKusanagi

Witzbold

okenny :)

Collapse The Control

To compete with GTA's 16 multiplayer modes and RB6v2 multiplayer onslaught

You know, I can't wait till the rumor starts of a co-op patch for cod4

JakeDunn

okenny :)

Agreed on earlier comment. I keep coming back to Halo 3 just to check out the new stuff (New Maps, Grifball, Rocket Racing, Team Hardcore, etc). Even then, once GTAIV is out, they'll have to do something big to pry my attention away.

whiptcracker

They haven't announced a price yet but 800 points is likely. IW's community manager hinted on his blog that they may even end up being free. I'd be happy even if they released them at 400 points. I don't like the trend of decreasing the number of maps in these packs and then raising the price on them.

@EnigmaNemesis:

Not really. There's no extra stuff on the disc, you're just getting the extra maps included. Would you really have wanted to wait 5 months to get COD4 just to get the new maps for free? In fact, seeing as you could have gotten COD4 for $40 at one store or another at any given point since November this release (if they charge $60 for it) will actually cost you more overall.

skullivan

PC Gamers... get it for free.

Project Thanatos

Having more competition (more gamers) on said platform is great as well.

Collapse The Control

Yeah it's a ripoff. Cod 2 map packs are still $10 too.

They probably arent on the disc because of space. Although honestly, with xbl id rather download it because it is tied to your account. I like the feeling of security.

NutManIV

1. They aren't on the disc so the maps can be tied to the account.
2. They are already getting ready to master the discs and the maps haven't gone through XBL QA yet.
3. There isn't enough room for the new maps on the disc.
4. Some combination of 1,2 and 3.
5. Something else that I haven't thought of.

Even if the maps WERE on the disc, it would most likely have to be treated like downloaded content, which would probably still require a token, so why not have the customers download them anyway?

@2SBs: If the downloads are requiring a code, I'd bet you that the downloads will not be free. Why else would you need the code?

NateN

mikeloxlong

Jechticknight

Or, the pessimist will say that the disc is already full and the maps won't fit.

Or, the cynicist would say that Microsoft forbids them from including the maps on the disc so that 360 owners that want them would need to get the hard drive/memory unit to store the data.

Heidern

IW knows the numbers of how many 360 versions got sold over PS3?

Collapse The Control

Will PC players get the maps for free as there is not set method of selling content to the pc users? The PC game already has a bunch of custom maps being played but are we getting actual retail map support?

Kyle81

Jun581 won't give you tree fiddy!!

Kyle81

greeble

New maps in April? Hmmm... That gives me a few weeks of tearing it up in Vegas 2 and then back to COD4 to play new maps up until GTAIV. It's going to be crazy. Especially since I still have Condemned 2, Frontlines & Bully begging to get played.

Collapse The Control

I've been meaning to pick up a copy of COD4, but for whatever reason haven't yet. This is the perfect incentive for me to finally do so.

wKarrde

CHU BOI

sh0tgunn0strils

2SBs

2SBs

Tingle

Setzer IIDX

I hope that the people who bought the normal version of the game will get the maps for free, if not I will get extremely mad.

2SBs

2SBs

I am seeing a pattern where games that are a hit are released, and then after 30-60days of playing, it peaks unless the game writers provide something to sustain it.
(Whether that is add-ons, maps, new features...)

SigmundTheSeaMonster

ADAM

Haven't we gone over this issue before...?

muu

And where's the PS3 love? (I know I'm enticing the 360 fanboys)

njhardcoreguy

Not the best of trends. But easily ignored.

EnigmaNemesis

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