TricksterDoll

This is the opposite of what is supposed to happen! I called Nintendo, and they guy just kinda stayed silent and went "uhhhhh" a lot, put me on hold, and then told me to call back next week. GREAT.

KMCC

MangoWOW4me

wolftoonlinkandike

Great game by the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

freespeech

Anyone who has half a brain realizes that flooding servers and stuff causes stuff to go down -_-;; in fact it is not nintendo's fault that people cant connect, rather it is the larger amounts of people that are attempting to connect 'at once'

Go learn something if you don't realize that its the technology ( in this case, servers not the wii ) that is the main issue. Unfortunately it can't support the raving demand to play online. And yes, a company can attempt to do their best to cover the players by getting more and more servers but it is not cost effective to cover 'launch time' since the number of players will diminish.

so stop ragging about stuff you can't control. you blame nintendo for lack of wiis, maybe in some cases lack of ds and now they lack the online capability? move on already it's a fault of our excessive demand not their inability.

pyropetey

wolftoonlinkandike

Arcadewolf

gassorr

jassonpe

kazooie

DaiMacculate

Takes a moment to get a game and getting a full four is still dicey, but it works ok. Still just playing anyone, no friend games yet.

DaiMacculate

I'm A Gamer Type Guy!!

mightyERone

PS. sorry for the long comment, had alot to say.

DarkDragon9906

Billkwando

I wonder if all of Nintendo's online games are linked by the same 2 tin cans and string?

I better try Nights when I get home just to see if I can connect.

Billkwando

Gungnir

ennTOXX

Shaoko

I've been getting this error EVERY time I try and go online with Mario Strikers. I called Nintendo and they had never heard of my error code before.

I can surf the web fine, I can go to the Wii shop and the Weather/News channels... don't know why but can't play online at all :S

DefiantDragon

Gambling on the spectator mode (which works flawlessly) is much more fun anyway!
[this might be due to the fact that I'm terrible at the game]

phor11

Benjo

j1000

:(

Torokun

hrabbit

Yeah, see, that's why I usually laugh at people's problems. Giving sympathy and feeling empathy to have them bite you in the ass gets old after a while.

Enjoy your broken online component. I'll be enjoying Warhawk.

PapaBear434

ap1werks

Even the oh-so-great XBL has his bad days, what are you expecting from free online play?-

Nirual

Arcadewolf

as for online play as a whole... its awesome and all, but without any sort of chat enabled I just feel like I'm playing A.I..... then again I haven't played against any friends yet, so maybe I'm off a little bit?

WinkMe

Welcome to 1995 Nintendo.

kabes

Not as bad? I'm fairly certain that the big reviewers out there were given advance copies of the title so as to avoid connection problems and therefore poor reviews of online play. I stood in line at midnight like every other workin stiff. I can almost forgive the first night's complete lack of connectivity, but on night two when I did finally connect with my counterpart (from L.A. to AZ) our 2 minute matches, quite literally, lasted for 5-7 minutes because of the horrendous slow down caused from transmission errors and whatever server issues Nintendo is still dealing with.

I love the game, gave it 5 out of 5 because the good far outweighs the bad, but there is simply NO excuse for Nintendo's lack of foresight here. And don't even get me started on the Friend Code Bullshit.

JediMasta

Right now I have some router/modem combo from my ISP but I was still having the same issues with older firmware on DI-624 and 524. Upgrading the firmware was out of the question as the latest revs. were incompatable with XBOX LIVE, then I would have problem with XBOX LIVE cennectivity. Screw that!

Again I still don't have problem connecting my 360 wireless to the home router. I still chalk this up to a poor wireless adaptor in the Wii, I haven't check my logs on the new router yet, to see what is what. Also I mentioned that removing my GC wavebirds alleviated the problem but didn't resolve it. It makes no sense that Wii-mote wouldn't interfere with wireless communication and the Wavebird would. Still, I don't plan on playing Brawl with the Wiimote.

SAKY

stormcrow85

Excalibur

Sustenance

SakuChan

electricpickle

Thank you Nintendo, for showing why I have no problem paying for live.

Evil_Snow_Man

detraya

nossing

Shteve

I see, the "I have a launch 360 and it still works" fanboy excuse.

Clearly, if you're having a problem, you're lying or doing it wrong. Because this guy, with the Link reference for a name, got online.

Billkwando

;P

ArgentAngel

@Mike Fahey: I got Wolf on the second try, but, I used R.O.B. Toon Link was the tough one for me, especially with that thing that flings you off the ship!!

Shyguy

超外人

darthmatt

Dawud

DaiMacculate

I'm not trying to be an Apple fanboy, but out of the literally 4 different brands of Routers I've tried (NetGear, Linksys, D-Link and Apple), the two different models of Apple G-wireless routers worked the best, and never had to be reconfigured after I settled on a security setting that would work for all my various devices.

The difference is marked when I go to my friend's house, takes him 3-4 times as long to get system updates or VC downloads as it does me, and we have the same ISP.

That isn't to say I haven't had a few errors trying to get into matches, but I got 5 good, relatively lag-less ones last night. Curiously, the only time I had a game completely drop out was spectating ;)

DaiMacculate

teh_joe

I did manage to get into one randomly matched four-player game finally in the afternoon yesterday, and it was lag free! It was fantastic. But every other time it's been either impossible to connect or unbelievably laggy.

Playing with friend codes works great. But half the friends I've tried to register haven't gone through yet. Nintendo's servers are even lagging on that, I guess.

stop2

xP

Norellicus

When I gave Nintendo the error code they didn't have a clue what the solution was. Just wondering, can you guys all connect flawlessly to players on strikers charged??? If not it is most likely a router issue causing this error.

Arcadewolf

Why can't nintendo have even a semi decent online network???

sav127

Wooduck51

Hopefully they get the kinks worked out before the next big wave of online play starts with Mario Kart. Until then, at least make it so I don't get booted offline every time I get an error such as the one above.

TRT-X

Team Battle(Random), Friend Matches and spectator work fine and no lag to boot :)

Hyperfludd

My thoughts? Nintendo knows their Wireless stuff is busted and it took SSBB to raise the masses to bitch simultaniously when folks have been dealing with this since launch. I went look ing through Nintedo's communty forums and found a post that was quite a few pages long, of people bitching about the same thing months ago.

SAKY

Connoisseur

joefro

Dr Terror

Listen to yourselves guys. It's obvious this will be fixed, just chill out and play the bloody game.

Lemming

Torgen got his apology faceplate but not his fixed GH3 disc

Dyson

I'm thinking about testing my online ps3 games that way.

Snappywave

CookieMasterPunk

Poison

H2oGatesy

Why?

Is this some kind of bad karma? I've been nice to you all of these years.. is this how you repay me?

ElErico

Seriously though -- is anybody really surprised? If this is still happening in a week or two it will be abhorrent, but when huge releases come out, servers go down or struggle. It just happens. Obviously from Nintendo's perspective, if they expect an average 250,000 people playing a week, say... and Brawl comes out, and hits a spike of 1,000,000? Nintendo isn't going to buy more servers just to hold out for those couple weeks. Neither would Microsoft. It's just how it works out.

Nintendo also had huge issues with Wii Shop connectivity at the beginning, but they got resolved. I see no reason to believe that this won't be as well.

It is generous of people like PapaBear to take time off from masturbating to a Nintendo-related problem to post his sympathies, though.

Huckleberry

Anemone

Anemone

Scazza

RaepGoblin

Anemone

Unlike Sony, who spent a shitton in the past year and a half to try and catch up to MS, or how MS pretty much re-wrote their online for Halo 3 and a few other games (see halo3 guide blade stuff and new matchmaking), Nintendo spends far too much time sitting back on its laurels and its massive fan base to care less about its service.

Here we have Nintendo's biggest game, and there is not a sole alive who didn't know it was going to sell incredibly well, and yet nintendo didn't foresee the connection problems? What makes this worse is the Japanese launch of the game had this problem and now its here again with no real resolution.

As for people saying this is an overreaction. I will put it this way... Personally I am pretty dissapointed in SSBB. Don't get me wrong, its a great game, and I didn't hype the game up for myself like most. But lets be honest here, we paid 50 bucks for an online-enabled upgrade to a series thats not changed since its original inception in 98/99. Again, its a great game, but if I am paying full price for a game I already own twice, then the one major thing that separates it from the other games (aka ONLINE) better damn well work flawlessly out of the box. Not only is the online not working, but its an incredibly bare bones system as everyone knows by now. No leaderboards, a poor matchmaking and friend list... In an age where companies are aiming for perfection and constantly competing, its unacceptable to release a game that is near on broken online. Early PS3 titles and Xbox 1 titles didn't have the constant connection problems that SSBB is having right now. Sure those games weren't as anticipated as much as SSBB, but Nintendo knew this as much as we did. Plus to comment "try again" is just not enough, and is a sick joke on their part.

Thankfully I have people to play with locally, and a fully stocked X360 library to fall back on, but I gotta say, its left a bad taste in my mouth and is another black eye, in a long series of them for Nintendo in the eyes of the "hardcore" gamers.

Scazza

tomrutters

ashjaw

NobleArc, The Lazy Canadian

nyaz

Has any company, EVER, in the history of online gaming ever had their servers stand up under the strain of release week?

This isn't rocket science, people. This is one of the most anticipated games of this generation, right up there with MGS4. Nintendo's services are being absolutely hammered, and everyone saying "I TRIED TO PLAY BUT COULDN'T! I RETRIED THIRTY TIMES AND STILL COULDN'T GET IN!" seems to think that somehow, they're not contributing to the problem?

Come back in a week or so and things will be noticably better.

JChaos

Mezodon

Sabre_Justice: Okay, no more long name.

I would seriously urge everyone having problems and using a standard wireless router to set up their Wii to have DMZ access to the Internet. It really solved my problems.

Marcelo

Murmaider

But if I go on with friend codes, then it works first time, every time. So what gives, Nintendo?

Murmaider

This is the same company that just two systems ago was still using cartridges.

Where was Microsoft 2 systems ago?

lordargent

GhostKamikaze

ThoseRaptureBlues

Kotae

jackal27

Sheetman

samaine

What Nintendo needs to do is take Nintendo WiFi down and just completely revamp it to make it atleast make it due able. I don't think I've ever had a good experience with the service.

It takes FOREVER to find someone, and then it takes FOREVER to play. On top of that you need to pray it doesn't kick you out.

Nintendo WiFi has been out for going on 3 years come this fall, and it's just pure shit. PlayStation 2 online service is better and that's saying A LOT.

And the whole "Well it's fee" is bull, PSN is free and that 100000000000000000000000000000x better.

I don't even know if I'll play Brawl online, even when it's better. I just don't know if I'll care then.

Sailorcancer

bluesquareapple

Eating_Sushi

But how is it we didn't here about these problems from the Japan release? What are the sales figures on the game? How many people are trying to get online at the same time?

Nintendo has consistently underestimated their own product or have we forgotten the Wii shortage already. My guess is whatever system they're using for matchmaking is completely overloaded and they are working on it, just like any other big online release. I seem to recall a certain Live getting hosed around Christmas due to a massive influx of people. The same thing would have happened to Brawl if it launched when it was supposed to, probably worse.

In the end, you get what you pay for. I'm not saying Nintendo couldn't have done better, but for the cost of Wii online, its not too bad.

That said, I've tried 10 times for an Anyone Brawl, 7 successful connections, 3 with any lag at all in addition to 4 successful and 2 failed Friend Brawls. The fourth time I thought there was serious lag, but it was actually due to that time-slowing item.

StrikerGold

Nintendo should just outsource its online division to Microsoft. Xbox Live does it right.

kylenalepa

超外人

uknow_what_it_is

Nintendo has weak online support, this isn't news. However, even a well built service like Xbox Live can have trouble when so many people try to play a game at once as is surely happening here. I'd say the chances are high that this problem will be continuing for a while. However, it's hardly gamebreaking. Anyone who can't find something fun to do in single player clearly isn't trying hard enough, because even without online this is still one of the most polished games I've played in a while.

Xenigma

Ampillion, Dayman. Fighter of the Nightman.

Pound my tom-tom

I'll try again later tonight when all the kiddies are going to bed early, maybe the servers won't be so shitty then.

Robbotron

"[I wish Nintendo would leave] the industry entirely before they destroy it with their arrogance"

You certainly give them a lot of Earth-shattering credibility as far as one game's online hiccups go. I doff my hat to you.

The point is, a lot of this 'hell to pay' is virtually nonexistent. XBox Live has had issues - people, legitimately, have a bone to pick when a service they pay for on a monthly basis works poorly for more than a small length of time. But guess what? Microsoft does not make promises that say Live will work 110% all the time, every time, even from the Moon. They advertise what it can do as far as enhancing your experience, it does not promise perfection. You don't HAVE to pay for Live - only if you intend to constantly, actively play online games all the time.

If I owned a PS3, and it lagged for any new game, I'm pretty sure I'd grumble a bit about it. Who wouldn't? What is different is that they do not charge for their online service, and therefore is much more 'is what it is' as far as functionality goes. Obviously, they'd be suicidal to let a part of their service languish like that for longer than a week or two, but I would hardly be screaming for the end of a company just because of one game's issues, or service problems. But I apparently am in the minority about such things because I'm 'used' to lag because I played PC games online for a lot longer than I have console games. I have learned to manage my expectations a lot as far as ANY company promising online play, and am especially skeptical of those that promise a perfect one.

Long story short, people need to step back and realize that this was not going to be perfect straight from the box, and that nothing ever is. This game has insane amounts of content - go and enjoy that, and by the time you get through a good bit of it, I bet a good amount of these issues will be worked out.

PsionicMonkey

Chillblain

DRaGZ

JN64Lover

I found 3 people's friend codes online the past few days, and have put everything in my roster. Only one person is fully registered, the other two have "Awaiting Registration" by their nicknames. I wish I could find people I knew that were my skill level & that I could physically play against in the same room.

dawimp523

Ollivander

BluFire

Whatever. I expected this as soon as I saw the phrase "friend code" when the DS's online functionality was premiered. Nintendo can't do online. I'll stop expecting it to get any better now.

DaveKap

As for me, my friend matches work great, but I have yet to have an ounce of success on the "With Anyone" option. Guess all we can do is wait and hope?

It's too bad...the game itself is awesome, and something stupid that other companies implement rather easily is the only thing holding it back.

Here's to a next-gen without friend codes. *glasses clink*

Michael Tarpey

wscreamer

Green-clad Gamer Dude

BluFire

zanzibarlegend

NeoAkira

No, I'm not "overreacting" much at all. Why would you consider it overreacting? I paid $50 for this game to play it online. It doesn't work online. I think, if anything, I was restrained.But I should have known not to say anything wrong about the almighty Nintendo as they are constantly given a free pass. If this would have happened with Halo 3 on the 360 or Warhawk on the PS3 there would have been hell to pay. But Nintendo? Of course not. They're just taking baby steps -- give them time. Even though online gaming worked fine on the Sega Dreamcast a decade ago. Nintendo needs to catch up.

Sloopydrew

Fav char so far: King Dedede!

psychobaka

Yes, the game is laggy at times and often in peak periods. But its not going to stay laggy in perpetuity. Thats clearly bad PR if it was, and something that will scare the hell out of Nintendo when they see its potential effects on their bottom line. They will fix it. There are metric tons of content to find on that game, and people shouldn't miss the forest for the trees, here.

PsionicMonkey

I'm hoping Nintendo will take the oodles of money they have made and fix this problem.

thinkfreemind

RPGCrazied

trogam

Diddy Kong ftw. Am I alone in this? Probably. But I don't care.

thefais

Trowble (XBL/PSN)

freakrok

I tried again today and got the same result!

So until the problem is resolved it seems like perseverance does pay.

yomachaser

MURDERFACE

T3kNi9e

incazteca

... what. Are you serious? Overreacting much?

sugardeath

That said, I've played a few successful (but sometimes laggy) random team and free for all matches as well as quite a few (again, sometimes laggy, but not as often) friend matches. It's pretty fun. I really wanna try out the online-multiman melee. That should be fun.

sugardeath

...wow. I really wish the internet didn't provide people with anonymity sometimes so that logical people could ridicule you in real life, or at least it would curb your tendency to make incredibly ignorant statements.

I haven't had many issues with Brawl at all, and even if I did (or if it didn't have online at all) it would still be one of the best games I have/will play this generation (and definitely the only one that will earn more than 50 hours of play).

usfslacker

billnabors65

KingBroly

really disappointing though that there isn't a fix as of yet. The least Nintendo can do for their already severely flawed online system is make sure it at least works bare bones

Sandbox_Emperor

Valaris

But yeah, the only match I got in was lag-tastic, and I was completely dominating my enemy and I lag out for a good 6 seconds, he gets the dragoon, sudden death, another lag spike, I lose.

TheDaftPunk

DranzerKire

Ortega

Shows Nintendo doesn't give a shit about the online interactive area or its fans. They haven't done ONE thing to make me happy with the Wii. I loved the NES all the way through the GameCube but this $250 GameCube takes it too far. And lack of online with Smash is the last straw. I wish they'd leave the industry entirely before they destroy it with their arrogance.

Sloopydrew

I got online with one match, against one person, but other than that no luck whatsoever.

ajacy

Spiffyness

JohnnytheFuture

bird1988

DaiMacculate

DJ_Sessum

PineTar

ZinkO: preferred the old theme AND comment system

Sloopydrew