After watching the bad ending my head filled with the possibilities of splicers attacking the main land and all of the chaos that would ensue. Though that doesn't make a whole shit load of sense for a sequel either because part of atmosphere of the game was the water constantly pouring in through the cracks forming everywhere. Only way that could work would be if the splicers somehow flooded the globe or at least one city somewhere. I'm grasping at straws here I just don't see where they could go with the story, though I'd love to be wrong.

Would you kindly not make this game? I'd love to remember Bioshock for what it is without a sequel tarnishing it's legacy.

Jesse Mrozowski

Kincyr

The water environment was the perfect setting for a feeling of isolation, alienation, and overall apprehension as you hope the structure holds. Nothing makes a man feel like a fish out of water like being in water (why yes, I've waited my whole life to say that, why do you ask XD)

Anyway, the only equivalent I can imagine is in the air. Underground just won't cut it. Possibly space, but that doesn't make a lick of sense unless it's supposed to be a far-flung sequel. It could work, and prolly quite well, but I'm just sick of 'space settings'.

A prequel would seem the perfect fit. Rapture in all it's original glory, with the undercurrents of the growing plasmid modification underground industry growing? It opens up all new avenues for storytelling.

Byakko

Weasel3689

reptile168

JohnnytheFuture

PsycheDiver

Also: wow, Q4 2009 is far away :(

Aethyr

People will buy it because it's Bioshock and it will not give lend itself so easily to fucking everything up that a full-fledged sequel would.

Dioxen

Release some kind of 'lost levels' directors cut or something if you just want to milk some more cash out of the game but don't stick at 2 after it and make another game. The story is over and wasn't that great to begin with. The first game shot its load within the first hour imo and then turned into generic hub and spoke, level based RTS shooter. Enough already.

Alith

Mister Adequate

Why does every damn game have to have a sequel? Bioshock existed as a completed work, all they're doing now is opening up the potential for the story to tank.

Dioxen

Game_Munkee

benmonkey

Game_Munkee

man in gauze is king ramses II, actually

Game_Munkee

Sunjammer

Sunjammer

Hmm, guess I should clock another couple hours finishing Hard.

Brackynews

BobbyFoSho

yeah, there is a reason why I "follow" your comments. ^_^ ~ while I liked the first Matrix, I wasnt rabid nuts crazy for it like most were. When I saw Reloaded, I got it and it made the first one even better to me. So I am right there with you on this!

icarusprime

Win.

I'm marrying Bioshock.

Shocky

i agree, also guys, the original is only like $20 now. it's one of the best titles of '07, if not the best. to me it is, but others would say cod4, cod4 was one awesome game, i loved it. but bioshock is my pick over cod4.

and at its new price, it's the best $20 you'll spend and a game that you really won't want to stop playing till the end..

kneehighspy

i'm leary on a prequel. i really don't want the experience of the first title ruined, it was near flawless (except the final boss episode).

perhaps a prequel concerning the development and the building / creation of rapture and the slow decline of it's downfall leading up to the point to where the first title started off (plane crash, submergence to rapture).

perhaps a forum thread should be started at 2kgames about what the users don't want to see, want to see or even that we do not wish another title cause it'll ruin everything about the first.

....and it'll cause nausea, sweating, anxiousness, tremors and other side effects waiting for more info or videos of the title...

kneehighspy

MagicPipe

mpmaley

Three words for you: Just Play it

LittleBigPlaneteer

okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)

SnakeCL

The innovations in BioShock are things like blending the plasmids and gunplay together seamlessly, the moral decisions you make, etc. I'll concede that the moral bit of the game isn't as fleshed out as it could have been, but it's a start. The setting is another innovation in itself. The story is more interesting than most FPS games, especially COD4. Ooooh, conflict in the Middle East? In 2008? Wow, there's some uncharted territory!

The lack of multiplayer can be a big let-down if you're used to online FPS, but if you can appreciate the game for what it is, it's great. I can't really say it has tons of replay value, though.

If you thought COD4 had a great story, BioShock should blow you and your low standards out of the water.

Nedus

Juan

lol

AND PS3 and XboX360 for that matter!!! =P

Glad I cleared that up!!! =P

KingAwesome

AMFresh

=P

KingAwesome

homernoy

I'm familiar with objectivism and Rand. Okay, is the story really that ground breaking that I should play yet another FPS (among the scores on the 360) just to get it?

CoD4, a game I have played, is a great story IMHO with it's single player portion. Yeah, kinda whimps out with the middle east location being undefined, and certainly has it's short comings like the game kind of ending abruptly in the middle of a battle. On top that is the online multiplayer which rules.

Okay, not being a big FPS fan, do I really need another one in my library that doesn't even offer the awesome multiplayer? Honestly asking for a good arguement behind a "yes" answer; not trying to knock Bioshock. Just kind of wondering if this game is actually that good or if people are just so huge fans of FPS (especially the 360 community) that one that has a decent story suddenly becomes the end-all-be-all.

I mean the Halo series is widely loved too. And it is fun, but the story is for crap and I have a hard time thinking of it as being ground breaking. Shoot everything that moves, wow that is inovative...

dbushik

dnez

This looks interesting, but I'm sure I'll be more hyped for it once I play Bioshock 1.

Also, I nearly confused this with the Dualshock 3 post. Nearly calling the game Bioshock 3, hehe.

GordieHoweHatTrick

TheIrishNinja

Xerxes 8933A

Spiffyness

I dont know, the game has the potential to be a worthless peice of crap that defaces the name of bioshock forever. OR it can be amazing and the name 'Bioshock' will live on in legends. sorry for the corny last line

becauseiplayddr

They'll not be able to have a greater diversity of character models, because they're very expensive memorywise and would detract from the environment. I bet they were fighting texture-budget as it was, and the engine/hardware is the same.

The setting will be war-torn or otherwise ruined - level design is just easier that way. Gating is a right pain if not, you need to have layouts make sense and put sensible numbers of civilians in. They're expensive and troublesome.

The defining feelings of the 'shock games is being alone and vulnerable in a rather spooky environment, so I doubt it's going to be a co-operative/multiplayer blaster set in Raptures civil-war. Previous games have had all of the people you meet as being alien to you, unhelpful, unreasonable (as in, you cannot reason with them) and usually tragic. So, normal human beings fighting against each other seems right out too.

I'll be impressed to see what they come up with, but it's hard to bottle lightning - I worry they cannot do it twice. Good luck, 2K Marin!

Tinkergirl

Apparently, Levine is still on board.

Nedus

Zeouterlimits

TheIrishNinja

Dopeski

Setting the game in a place above water just won't fit, either. One of the biggest parts of the game was its setting. Of course, I'm not Ken Levine, but I can't think of anything that can happen in Rapture now. Everyone is a lunatic, the leaders are dead, etc.

Nedus

Dopeski

mescalineeyes

Aleeightone

superbabyproject

To help you along, I'd also feel the greatness was ruined if the following were created:

Mona Lisa: A Second Look at her Smile
Of Mice and Men: More Mice, and More Men
Taxi Driver: Are you Talking to Me too?

Do you see what I'm getting at here. Sure they could all turn out good if they were made, but my point is, things that reach a certain greatness should not be tampered with as they are perfectly fine as standalone products.

LittleBigPlaneteer

Dopeski

That rusty wagon sure must be cozy.

i_9

Crunch King

I'm sorry you failed to interpret my opinion but I'll break it down for you:

"Releasing a sequel to a game that doesn't deserve a sequel ruins something great". Should I put "for me" at the end or do you actually think I was making an objective statement?

LittleBigPlaneteer

acez2087

Scazza

"Asked why the BioShock IP had moved to 2K Marin, and whether Levine was still attached to the project, company CEO Ben Feder said that Levine was a "terrific asset to the company," and that he was working on both BioShock 2 and a different IP."

So Levine is "working" on it... meaning he is barely working on it while focusing on his new baby, but T2 attached his name to appease fans.

Crom

no pressure, just a contender and for some sites, considered best game 2007.

At least best FPS 2007, cna we agree on that?

Alecsander_C

homernoy

iamnotdryad

That's great.

Now can you answer my question of exactly what they've ruined and how they did it or are you just going to give me more statements about how most sequels suck?

iamnotdryad

LittleBigPlaneteer

Willows

I just don't believe every game should have a sequel. Bioshock was just fine for what it was. It's only getting a sequel because of how much money it made. Statistically speaking, almost every sequel of anything (games, movies,etc..) are not as good as the original, and often times ruins the franchise.

Bioshock was complete as far as I see. A prequel if anything would have been great, because there's just so much n Rapture that would be great to see before it all went to shit, but No to a sequel especially one without Levine.

LittleBigPlaneteer

awesomerobot

Goatfish

SnakeCL

AaronMD

Exactly what and how have they ruined?

iamnotdryad

TK423

TheGunnz

LittleBigPlaneteer

Strangelove

Lockenator

Strider-No.9

But as long as there is a PC version I don't really mind either way.

Emophia

GUNDAM-RX-78-2

What can be done in this game that won't feel forced? Bioshock was such a complete story in itself, I don't know what a sequel/prequel/whatever will bring to the table. I guess maybe you're someone living within Rapture trying to stop Ryan and/or Fontain, but to what extent? Or maybe you work for one of them, trying to foil the other?

No matter what this game has HUGE expectations to live up to considering how much of a masterpiece the original was. I'm skeptical, but intrigued.

mva5580

JamieA

Fyren

kylenalepa

It is unfortunate that Levine isn't involved, but who knows, maybe he'll help them with the story.

Or he'll only work on every other Bioshock, and we'll learn to skip them, like Call of Duty 3.

doubtful

The original Bioshock was so moody and atmospheric and awesome. I just don't know if they can make a world as compelling both interms of aestetic and interms of storytelling.

But hey, I'll probably pick it up.

bennifer3000

Morphine16

dead_red_eyes

Billy Bob Joe

Korey

I wonder how the storyline will pan out. If it's a sequel, will it follow the bad ending? Doing so would dilute the story because there would be nothing much to talk about with the exception of going after the previous hero.

I guess a prequel would be pretty exciting if it's set around the time of "the conflicts" between Andrew Ryan and "someone" >.> <.< (don't want to spoil).

Sobe318

MajorMcMuffin

I think it would be a fascinating world to live in, with scientists developing new plasmids and tonics and that sort of thing -- while the war between Fontaine and Ryan begins to brew.

tslothrop

Bernard McGraw

Bernard McGraw

Plumbing. I think you meant Plumbing.

They probably just misunderstood what made the Mario series so great. Good attempt though.

Setzer IIDX

DocBacca

i_9

Franklin Comes Alive!

Islandkiwi

I think a prequel will actually be a metric fuckton better than the original, with or without Levine.
Consider the fact that the amazing story sold this game and is the only thing that they could fuck up. Graphics typically don't go backwards (DMC2 being a rare exception..). Sound, they know what works. A prequel, but a recent storylinewise prequel means that plasmids and guns should function the same, they can just make new plasmids. Controls don't need much if any tweaking. And the framework for the storyline is in place. Have this be an EPIC game starting as you as Joe Shmoe boarding a sub to go join the underwater community of Rapture, meet some of the people that were read about and listened to in BioShock's diaries. Above all, watch the gradual decline of civilization firsthand as an observer. Maybe the ending can tie in the first one's main character, but I think the only way they can really flub it up is by focusing on the first one too much, instead of making a standalone story.

Setzer IIDX

Jacktherip

COLDBLOODED_BMC

Balmung576

Kazkame

anyway I have very high hopes for this. I would love to learn more about what took place before Rapture fell to shit. I think that a lot can be done as long as no one tries to reinvent the game.

_Ted_

i_9

Modus_Operandi

Foggynotion

Deus Ex Machina

Kudos on the SS franchise, Bioware hear our plea!.

While we are it, more info on Dragon Age please!

Fyren

System Shock.

Spoony Bard

From talking to a lot of the 2k people, it seems like he would rather start another new IP than continue with bioshock.

Lot Krotan

Cyanotic

I rather think they should just set it in a whole different place.

Tull

J. Kyle

I'm curious as to how the story's going to pan out...and hopefully it will end better than the first. Maybe regain some of the complexities of System Shock 2 that they left out in the original Bioshock? I can always hope.

SilentSeraphin

Maiken

I'm very intrigued, and it could be good, but the vast majority of cases like this one haven't turned out well...

QualityJeverage

7ucky

JackBauer02

greeble

diablodevil2

Clarke

Yeah all the rumours might turn out to be true. I feel bad for Levine since Bioshock was his baby. Lets hope that the series is left in good hands. I would hate to see such a great game's legacy spoiled buy a lackluster sequel.

Bones_Jackson

I'm just hoping for a bad ass story. Prequel sounds amazing to me.

Sonic_and_Tails

Raynre

diablodevil2

Hmm, I wonder what possible pack-in they could include with this one that could possible approach the Big Daddy figure. Definitely can't wait for part 2, although I kind of hope it's a new setting/story ... unless, it's a prequel. There's is a lot of area to mine is the decline of Rapture.

jayntampa

poopsonlawn

Can anyone hear my crying?

Ichidou

Also, it better be a prequel.

Foggynotion

DaPress

execrationist

DragonSphere

Mlata

ErskinPig

johnnylineup

syronimus

alextz

I'm hoping for multiplayer this time.

DangerMcD

Barf#1

FP_slomo788

Darth Navster

Lot Krotan

Eww now I feel like a giddy 360 owners begging for MGS4.

FP_slomo788

Imashinu