<![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @dadeisvenm: You're proving a flood happened...that's great...but it still doesn't give actual proof about Noah.

@champ24 vamp_24(psn): Do you know what one of the definitions for "Faith" is in the dictionary?

"belief that is not based on proof"

[dictionary.reference.com]

Contrary to what religious leaders say, there is nothing wrong with proof.

jago.kot

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @Does Not Equal: again... cause and affect. trust me i wouldn't if i didn't need to. Much like this little back and forth.

dadeisvenm

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @dadeisvenm: There is a place for religion, man. Video games can be one of them; I own a legally-bought copy of The War In Heaven, which is a Christian FPS. A video-game discussion blog, however, really isn't.

(DoesNotEqualisnotaKotakumoderatorbuthedoesplayoneonTV)

Does Not Equal

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @DoesNotEqual: go ahead. when someone belittles you, i'll defend you as well if its warranted.

I'm guessing your comment isn't based on reading the thread and finding the context for my responses.

dadeisvenm

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @dadeisvenm: I'm gonna go find a Christian message board somewhere and start talking about video games.

Does Not Equal

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @jago.kot: " stuff in the Bible has yet to be proven after THOUSANDS of years."

Hence, the concept of FAITH. Duh.

champ24 vamp_24(psn)

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> nothing wrong with believing in God, but thinking JC was just a real smart crafty guy ;)
Imagine if David Copperfield existed in those days~~
hocus pocus jiggly boo~~~
No one would have cared about 2nd rate JC when Copperfield made pyramids disappear haha, he'd have been just chopped liver~ haha

bosintang

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @jago.kot: "So says the fictional book called the "Bible" :-p" - jago.kot

Your own words betray you sir. You saying you're Catholic is even worst. Hate to breaking to you but If you don't believe in the accepted canons (The Bible) how can you be Christian? You may have been baptized as such when you were a baby or forced to got to church but sitting in the pews and taking the eucharist in vein doesn't make you Christian but it does mean your damning yourself. So you might want to stop until you actually believe. Otherwise its a mockery.

Lets continue. You say, Jesus himself may have been real...but all the SUPERNATURAL stuff in the Bible has yet to be proven after THOUSANDS of years.

Wow. Fascinating... I don't come across many "christians" who "kinda", "sorta" believe in Jesus. As for the "SUPERNATURAL stuff in the Bible has yet to be proven after THOUSANDS of years." it hasn't been DISPROVEN in the same allotted time. Science can't explain ghost, the purpose of life or the meaning of life. Science has yet to explain some aspects of evolution. For example some parts of the body DOES NOT evolve. The human eye is one such part. If the human eye is extremely different from the other animals, where did we come from or better yet "how and why" are we formed differently?

The Bible is the most scrutinized collection of literature in history. why has science been unable to disprove it? You mentioned Noah.... do you know that the Hebrew bible is not the only account of a global flood? [en.wikipedia.org]

dadeisvenm

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> Jesus himself may have been real...but all the SUPERNATURAL stuff in the Bible has yet to be proven after THOUSANDS of years.

Certain values in the Bible I have no problem...but some of them are just down right hypocritical and stupid (same goes for laws in general.)

I'm Catholic btw...but just b/c I am in no way means I have to be a mindless drone and believe what primitive man wrote in a book. Primitive man also had no logical understanding of things and thus would assume it was "mystical" or "from a god."

jago.kot

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @bosintang: The argument all started based on disparaging remarks made towards the Bible and Jesus Christ not by the makers of the game, but from kotaku members at other kotaku members.

To answer your question. Jesus is depicted as European just as he is depicted as Asian in Asian society. People see him as themselves. In truth he probably looked middle eastern (Pakistani, Afghani, etc.).

dadeisvenm

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> Sounds interesting. Too bad it's going to be YAFPS.

L_K_M

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> "propped by the idea of communicating with God via machines"

y halo thar, Digital Devil Saga.

KirbySS

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> it's funny a religious war starting up on this site over a game that's not even released yet.
can't wait for all the hoopla once it finally does, hehe

btw, for christian mythology savvy ppl talking here, i've always been curious about one thing though, why is JC always depicted white when I heard studies show he was black?

bosintang

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @dadeisvenm: Oh, I believe in Jesus the man. It's the paranormal stuff they can't prove.

Would make a killer game, though. Jesus starts with all his powers for the first section of the game, then gets stripped down and slowly regains them. Very Samus/Kratos/Altaïr.

Does Not Equal

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> Save me Jeebus!

They're using Kotaku to platform their religious beliefs!

Smadubaku

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> i'm just hoping we get a double pistol wielding Jesus as the final boss, ala the movie promo from the Family Guy , JC 2 : Crucify This.
also, the cross on his back turns into a mega bazooka~!?!?
imagine the fun u can have blowing up Jesus's carcass again and again just as he keeps resurecting himself~~~, ala robot chicken.
good times.
moses as a mid boss?
i'm definately getting this game if the game play is half way descent.

can't wait till the crazy right wing church ppl hear about this game, haha

bosintang

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @jago.kot: values? How did they develop these "values"? Evil is a foreign concept in nature. How did man come to define evil unless they were told something was evil and how did they validate it? Again think before you post.

dadeisvenm

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @jago.kot: If the apostles are real, Peter, Paul, etc... which is documented fact, logic dictates Jesus it real. and so on and so on and so on. Read this. [en.wikipedia.org], if you still don't believe thats fine. Just learn to respect others before you post (or speak).

@DoesNotEqual: read above reply. Jesus is very real. If you call archaeological evidence fictional, those rose colored glasses must be stronger then you thought.

dadeisvenm

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @dadeisvenm: It's okay, we're all discussing fictional events and characters anyway. Some are just older than others.

Does Not Equal

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> Then show me the proof where all the "important" events of the bible are 100% legit. You know...like the Resurrection, Noah's Arc, Adam & Eve, etc.

US laws (and some laws in general) are based on values...not actual events (or STORIES) in the bible.

jago.kot

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @DoesNotEqual: No. He's quiet serious. As am I.

@jago.kot: If the Bible is fictional, then our laws (US) are based on fiction. If our laws are suggestive, then there is no such thing as good or evil. If chaos is the primer for all things, then life is meaningless.

That so-called "fictional" book is grounded with more truth and meaning then you can comprehend. Some level of decorum is warranted.

dadeisvenm

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @Borathian: It's called "willing suspension of disbelief." If you can believe that a tech-armored supersoldier saves the galaxy from ringworld-borne destruction and that a sword-wielding hero can rescue a princess again and again (and again), then the plotline of Salvation shouldn't be much more of a stretch.

Does Not Equal

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> I don't get it, how do you clone Christ and the Antichrist if they haven't appeared yet in this world(meaning the game world)? that and the fact that I'm fairly sure no one but the real things would be able to do what the real ones are meant to do and all that.

Borathian

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> Personally, I don't understand what peoples' gripe is with the Source engine. All Source games seem to look better to me and everyone I know a lot longer than most other graphics engines. And, like this game and Left 4 Dead should show us, the engine is capable of a whole hell of alot and Valve is gonna make it keep on growing.

As for the game itself, sounds like a kind of intrigueing story, but it could go either way (retarded or awesome).

LordMagnusMastah

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> The concept seems to have been borrowed from this:

[www.amazon.com]

Pretty good story...certainly better than Left Behind...and I'm a total skeptic, so reading these was a bit of a stretch.

Covenant

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @red07: according to the article it was a fake christ,

only the real can cause the apocalypse.

EnragedTemplar

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> what about a, "In the year 2020 a young mastermind learns to build an efective process of flash cloning and cheap methodical military stlye hardware to be used in combat, winning a grant from congress he builds these prototypes of his and plans to show them to the cheifs of staff at a grand unveiling ceremony, at the event something goes purposely wrong, and the genius escapes while all of the heads of state are killed. He flees to greenland where over the next twenty years he uses his clones and technology to wipe greenland off the map and steal all of its natural resources. Trying to avoid another pointless war the U.S. is the last to join the war against these shadow forces in greenland, which began in 2023. The war rages till 2028, a great allaince force is built up along the southern half of greenland shores when the worlds military powers are decimated by small nukes. The remaining forces pull back to their resepctive countries, and are eventually overrun by shadow forces in the years following the failed invasion. The world falls under shadows control and for the next 30 years a great resistance is faught. This is where the game takes place, 1st person shooter, eventually you gather enough forces to push the shadows back, and they flee their last stand in four emense space ships which had been under construction since the beginning of the major invasion. Sequel!

EnragedTemplar

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @red07: So says the fictional book called the "Bible" :-p

jago.kot

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @red07: You're joking, of course. I mean, only someone truly obsessed would post something like that in a video-game news blog and actually be serious about it.

That said, good one! Made me laugh.

Does Not Equal

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> Fucking awesome; hope they execute well.

Also, guys, its a little hard to call something pretentious whilst being a pretentious douche bag about it. I think there is a spot in cybernetic hell for hypocrites.

Captain Internet

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> Christ has died once. He won't do it again. The next time he comes back, he'll be the one doing the judging.

And only if you've been washed by his blood will he pass over you. Only if you're sins were taken at the cross will you be able to run into his loving arms.

Decide.

red07

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> So wait... You clone Jesus.... FROM WHAT!? A sock he left behind? and to top it off... The scientist know who the Antichrist is and kill him... clone him... then kill the clone?!

O_o

That is the dumbest plot I have ever heard. This is straight out a bad Sci-Fi TV production like "Mammothz". They should call it "Judgement Dayz Spoilarzz...God LOLZ".

dadeisvenm

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> one quick plot point, why did they need to clone jesus and anti-jesus? why not pay hobos off the street and strap em with TNT? get what im saying? but lets all way till some more info comes out, then we can judge better (although im sure i still wont like it)

pandafresh

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> "virtual cybernetic hells designed to provide constant torment"
here's to hoping that doesn't describe the final game...sounds interesting, though.

Willows

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> Was anyone else thinking Cybernetic Ghost of Christmas Past from the Future after they read that?

H8ff0000

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> The concept has a lot of potential.. much more involved than the average shooter. Im a bit nervous about some of the desings though.. I mean the concept art is quite well drawn.. just not sure the design is quite there.. Needs another spell in the oven maybe?

kretinite

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> This looks pretty interesting! Sounds like a more engaging version of Left Behind. If they can extract the awesomeness and forget the preachyness of the end of days, they could create a kick ass action game here, one that will make me take a look.

Coherent

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> Um, to all you "This is Evangelion" people: Eva was about a group of people looking to prevent , or at least control, an actual Biblical Apocalypse. Real "angels", a real "Rapture", etc. This is about essentially an Illuminati-type group that uses superior technology to fake an Apocalypse, complete with genetically engineered main characters (Christ and Anti-Christ) who self-destruct at the end, so that they can say "OK, now is the Kingdom of Heaven and we're His agents and you will do what we say because it is God's will." And the bamboozled populous, that just lived through what looked, felt and sounded like the end of the world, all go "OK!"

It's not too hard to wrap your brain around.

Beelzebozo

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> Color me uninterested.

And as to the press release, it's BraVE New World, and no, it had nothing to do with cybernetics. Also I can't find anything about a book(?) titled Us.

misc.insanity

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> I like the idea and the art-direction but i can't help but feel that the source engine just isn't that good an engine.

Jambolia

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @jago.kot: Oops...I meant to say "fictional" instead of "non-fictional" ;-)

jago.kot

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> I wonder if this will go the way of the 3DO game about the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse a few years back. That looked like an awesome game until they canceled it.

CFStang

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> this sounds kinda dumb. like matrix logic, woohoo. and I'd love to know why everyone thinks any Christian church would care about this.

ZinkO: Balls of the Patriots

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> good thing it's not a videogame about Muhammad. then it really would be the end of times.

teh_joe

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> Xenogears was awesome...to this day I still stand by this statement:

Xenogears >>>> FF7

Don't get me wrong...I liked FF7, but I totally dig games, movies, etc. that take a CREATIVE technological twist to the whole non-fiction book called "The Bible" :-P

jago.kot

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> The church complained about resistance, i wonder what their gonna say now? VIDEO GAMES COME FROM THE DEVIL TO HAUNT YOUR CHILDREN, BURN THEM, BURN THEM!

Desertwolf

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> this might make me get an appropriate gaming PC, sounds great.

InEffectMode

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @inphanta: I don't know dude, I found that game pretty ridiculous. My tipping point was the scene when they crucified the giant robots... and Chu-Chu. At that point, I threw up my hands, said "FUCK THIS SHIT" and laugjhed myself to sleep. I haven't touched it since.

Of course, I think toastyfrog.com said it best a few years back, but I'll be damned if I can find the article on the site.

JustThisGuy

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> Whether an anime has done it before or not this might actually be a good game.

Grey_Fox

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @tenken: Dude, the latency in heaven is nonexistent. It'd be a great server to play on if Jesus didn't win every match.

Really: every single time you bit the bullet in an online FPS? Jesus. Every PKer that stole all your loot? Jesus. Every time some 14 year-old taunted you, saying "pwned noob lol"? Jesus. Every Zerg rush ever performed? Korean Jesus. Headshot Doug? Canadian Jesus in disguise.

And lo, for God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son mad micro, so that he mayest lay waste to noobs and campers, who are unholy unto Thine eyes. Boom. Headshot. Amen.

JustThisGuy

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> Remember Xenogears on the PS1? It did this sort of thing with far more intelligence.

inphanta

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> I think the idea is interesting. Theres like a "multiverse" of posible worlds to write tales, and use as lore for videogames. And there can be one "universes" where god fight agains/with angels and demons. It can make automatically for a RTS with 3 sides: humans, angels and demons. Maybe has been done before.
The thing about pyschopowers, clones, etc... is somewhat new wave, that is lame, but you have all the sci-books from silverberg, that are new wave, and RULES!, like the book "Open The Sky" that are really good, even with religion, and psychic powers stuff...

Tei

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> I _LOVE_ how people always point the finger at the US as an "example"...despite the fact that birth of all major religions were on the other side of the world.

You're more likely to see total chaos break out over there where everyone is much closer together then in the US...although I won't deny that there are people here who would loose control.

jago.kot

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> Yeah I was going to make the "sounds like Eva" post also.

Hmmm, attempts to clone divinity in order to bring about the apocalypse? Check and CHECK.

WiNG

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> I see nothing wrong with the story idea or setting. Its a bloody paragraphy description. Anyone who's calling it an affront to gaming storylines needs to go read 4-sentence long story summaries of movies.

Even then, it seems people are misunderstanding the idea of the game. There were no Christ and Antichrist, they were created, and a mock apocalyptic battle was waged. The scary part is, this would probably work, at least in the US. Something like 70% (don't quote me on that, I just remember its a sickeningly high number) of all US citizens think that they will see the end of the world and the return of Jesus. So by golly, if Jesus clone shows up, 70% percent of the US isn't going to think twice about it.

The gist is basically, a group has played upon the religious fears of humans and created a figurehead theocracy. They claim they're connected directly to "God" when it in fact they're the ones making the shots.

This actually intrigues me, even moreso than BioShock, since there's much more of an opportunity to make a statement here, especially about religion.

SnakeCL

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> Not on PS3 too? I'm tired of this horseshit.

Sollus

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> It's not hard to find someone who can do some pretty concept artwork, pretty textures and take some cool screenshots. The tough part is going to be making the game:

(1) Fun to play
(2) Not preachy (if it's preachy then it'll go the way of Eternal Forces)

...I echo the Evangelion comments as well. The whole idea isn't "entirely" original (but then again what idea is?)

jago.kot

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> game sounds fucking amazing.

Kane and lynch sounded fucking amazing.

Lets see how this will be pulled off before actually praising it.

ManjiKengo

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> If the writers can somehow make something cohesive out of that premise and insert it in the frame of a shooter, I think it'd be something of a miracle ;)

Rohsiph

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> the art and the concept sound kinda dumb to me. but the DJQuake? effing hilarious!

pandafresh

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> (I mean, I have found prior art from some guy on the internet. The draw is not mine.)

Tei

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> I have prior art: DJQuake!
[deej.digitalfunk.org]

Tei

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @Ehardergardens: Oh, I remember that game, too. It was fun... until it crashed my PC and I had to reinstall the OS.
Why does today everyone keep reminding me of games I had shitty experiences with? :D

@jayntampa: Nah, I'm sure they took Jesus' DNA from a relic, then made a negative of his DNA (y'know, replacing each gene with its opposite, which, as we all know, is a scientifically sound possibility *ahem*).
Which would make the Antichrist a chick. And she's probably fat. And bald.



Antiterra

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @SpiralJacobs: I think Mr. Jack Thompson would disagree with you there.

mtheumer

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> No one is going to have a problem with this game, religiously, because it's so dumb. It's not offensive if it's stupid.

SpiralJacobs

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> Yes cause we all know that genetic stemcell research can bring on cloning and bring on the end of the world.
*rolls eyes*

This is like a Right Wing Christian's wet dream to protest against. Lets see what do we got here.

-It's a shooter.
-It deals with the horrors of genetics
-It has you killing 'religious themed' icons.
-It has machines talking with God.
-It has you fighting the end of days.

Sure it has no worse themes then a good Sci-fi novel, but sci-fi is often overlooked, gaming is never overlooked. This game can be the second coming of Halo 2, but with it's radical storyline will be the shine of the game much akin to bully has become.

I smell just another ordinary shooter with a controversy that wount save it in the end. Another Manhunt2.

huginn

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> i like the concept but different strokes for different folks. Many people felt that Gears of War provided enough of a story for them.

jp182

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> I dunno ... they'll have to fix the story some. It's hard to replicate something that doesn't exist (i.e. the anti-christ). If it does exist, well, it's Armageddon, God is real, and no government can stop that.

Now, if they created a faux anti-christ and offed in it show to take religious control of the world, that I can buy into ...

jayntampa

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> Reminds me of Requiem Avenging angel... that game had Some amazingly fun weapons and abilities for an FPS a the time... including I believe the first bullet time in a game(pre dating max payne) and so close to the matrix release that it was not probably influenced by it. I loved resurrecting a small army before storming a room.

story execution hmmm so so...

hopefully this will be better in that regard...

Ehardergardens

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> God is dead? Bah, Nietzsche said it first. Sounds like an extremely stupid plot for fans of the Matrix trilogy's philosophy (offense intended). "Hey, let's throw some metaphysical shit in a blender, see what comes out! Woah, I gots a wikkid idea: how 'bout we kill Jesus? Dude, gimme the bong, I got some religious thinking to do."

@A8acus: I remember that game! It had Dennis Hopper in it, right? That was so long ago...
The dumbest-ever localization mistake made it impossible to finish, though: one particular password was longer in my language than in English, and the game only allowed you to write as many letters as the original English password. Talk about broken... And in those days, no internet, no patches.
I think my brother fooled around with a hex editor and fixed it, but it never got back to it.

@justhesh: Yes, many indeed.



Antiterra

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @Saxboy: So either you are saying the developers should already be looking over their shoulders, or that there haven't been calls for assasinations by Islamic leaders based on perceived slights against the faith. Either way, my point was that this game is going to get the church spun up enough to, at the least call for a boycott. If someone repping Christianity wants to to take a shot at one of the games developers, at least he can't say the Pope told him to.

mtheumer

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> some of those screenies just reminds me of HL2.

sizzl3r

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> basically a great idea to buy this game if you want to go directly to hell.

joelface

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @mtheumer: That was... Islam bashing to say the least. Christians are too good to assassinate people? Please don't blame "Islam" for the reactions of a few people. I mean heck, if I judged all Americans (including myself) by what I read from people's mouths on the internet I'd probably just commit suicide.

As long as the game doesn't try to assert some sort of metaphysical relevancy, fine. I'm so tired of things that completely misinterpret what they represent.

Saxboy

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> What Do You Mean Its Not Symbolic?

"Just so long as it looks meaningful, people will love it!"

Fnor

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> I wanna kill Jesus!!

Hek415

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> I like the ideas. Very dark-future-like. I will be watching and waiting for this game.

...and praying for a PS3 release... if the Valve Source engine works on PS3... eh, phooey.

Highlander Wolf

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> Wasn't that many episodes of Dr. Who?

justhesh

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> I love the concept, but if critics had a problem with Mass Effects, this is going to have their heads spinning. Fortunately, there's no reference to Islam, otherwise the game developers would have to watch for assasination attempts. If they can maintain the feel of the concept art in the finished product, this game will be a hit, otherwise it will be relegate to another attempt at sensationalism.

mtheumer

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> Those pics remind me of a FEAR FACTORY video for their song RESSURECTION.

Collapse The Control

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> The Source engine is still a wonderful tool to work with, but when masterpieces like CryEngine2 exist, which has as much functionality as Source or Unreal 3 and looks amazing to boot, I don't understand why any company would go with a less-sophisticated engine. Source offers some unique development tools but it's a bitch to get assets into it, among other things.

Although I suppose Cryengine2 hasn't been optimized for the 360 yet, which could be a part of it.

Atheist Jew

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @Beelzebozo:
Dna decays, plus those relics are all fake, several churches compete with eachother over who has the real holy foreskin. No relic has stood up to scientific scrutiny. I don't believe the figure is historical, but if he was, I don't think godliness could have been coded into his DNA, he would've had to have some seperate system for that.


valleyshrew

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> i have a question. Why is it that valve only likes to release games for pc and Xbox 360? am not a fanboy but i just want to know why they don't work in the ps3

shagari7

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @mind in rewind: That's because every single gamer is in his teens and loves to see a woman in leather. Right?

ianp622

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> It seems like every upcoming game that was revealed recently has a chick in leather. I'm just sayin'.

FP mind in rewind

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> Can you imagine what would have happened if (speaking about fundamentalism) they decided to clone and kill a particular middle eastern 'prophet' instead? And I don't mean in the game... I call them cowards.

coat.danvers

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @tenken: Sweet cloned Jesus am I glad to hear those sentiments. I just do not understand why so many gamers have horrible, tacky taste.

On an unrelated note, "high concept" is about the most misleading phrase ever...

Maxathon

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> So whats the title of the game? Jesus Christ Superstar?

cebukid(im rick james, bitch)

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @Ashurahori: That was my first thought. My second was, "Wasn't that pretentious enough the first time?"

TomSkylark

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> i assume that the "Regime" would have to correlate to one of the two 'sides' in the conflict, (Good/Evil)...
but from the sound of it, it's acting on behalf of both, and the protagonists operate as a separate entity altogether...

something tells me at least half of this concept is unnecessary and superfluous...

if the point of it all ends up boiling down to "judging people as being good or bad is wrong"...that's slightly ironic

so far though...it just looks like someone forced the Matrix to breed with the paranoia that Christianity is going to take over the planet and kill everyone
:-P so far i'm not interested

(also, in the press release, do they mean "BRAVE New World"? ...i've never heard of "Brand New World")

mAaron

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> Golly, this doesnt sound like the plot of a certain anime at all. Nosiree.
I wonder when people will start coming up with their own material and stop ripping off the Japanese >_>


Sheogorath

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @DrLight: Anti-Christ they could just make up. Christ? Well there are an infinite number of "Holy Relics" that are supposed to contain his DNA (blood, skin, etc) Even if they don't match, they just have to get it close enough to make people believe that these are the real things. Hell, just flip a few things around and make the Anti-Christ from the same DNA, like an evil twin.

Reminds me of an old web comic called "Fat Jesus about an attempted Jesus clone that turns out to be seriously flawed.

Beelzebozo

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> This sounds so, so stupid.

SpiralJacobs

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> I'm lovin' this concept. It's like the Anti-Left Behind.

Beelzebozo

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> The concept art looks like an uninspiring half-life 2 clone (cover everything with crucifixes!) and the plot is riped right out of some pseudo intellectual anime (or high school wapanese fanfic). Also, generic protagonists archetypes!

Its so over the top and derivative! How could it possibly fail?

BossMonk

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> How on Earth did they figure out who the Antichrist is? Or get Christs DNA? =O!

DrLight

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> I love the concept of Technology and Religion, A server-link to Heaven? Awesome.

3xch4ng3

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> Mmmm... sacrelicious. :-)

catapult37

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> That's a very touch and go idea for a game... it'll either rock or suck horribly.

On the flip side, I could see some biological/genetic engineer trying to steal one of the famous "relics of Christ" that supposedly have his blood on it to try and clone him. I mean, if they're trying to clone a wooly mammoth, why not the poster-boy for Christians?

KeeliLuv

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> I thought there was supposed to be three antichrist?

They make it sound like matter and antimatter.

The trio of characters they have planned for the player remind me of the three base classes in Mass Effect.

Zegridathes

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @icepick314:
Not sure but I heard the Archbishop of Canterbury was politely asking the devs to involve Sharia law somewhere in it, 'to get with the times'.


new_pornographer

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> mmmmm Now thats some bland nondescript post apocalyptic Scifi concept art.

Freekarrtt

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> The overall concept sort of sounds cool, but the details screw it up. Like someone said before, what in the hell is the purpose of cloning Christ and the anti-Christ? Not even mentioning who in the hell is the Anto-Christ and then they top it off by killing them. It makes no sense.

HurricaneDave

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> Hey now! Part of that sounds like the plot to another game - Hell: A Cyberpunk Thriller!

A8acus

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> so what's the Church of England have to say about this game?

icepick314

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @Ashurahori:

Beat me to it! I don't think you get to defeat the 'Angels' in this in big mechas though :(

new_pornographer

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> This game better come with the manual in the same binding and using the same paper as a standard Bible, because for some reason I think that would rock.

Remains to be seen if it will actually be worth playing ;)

DaiMacculate

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> sounds like a mess. there's so much that could go wrong with this.

geekgrrl

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> In-game CROSS media bar confirmed?
see what i did there?
it was lame.
*leaves

GMC

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @ExistentialEgg: I can't believe you beat me to it. :(

ianp622

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> I hope the localization is better than the press release translation. =P

bleeps

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @Ashurahori: As well as the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch.

ianp622

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> It would take a video game - or the Wachowski brothers - to come up with a concept this pretentious and dumb.

I mean, parts of the plot sound like they could be cool, but not when they're all mooshed together, like cloning the Antichrist, then killing him/her, as though that would trigger some flag in real life...oh wait, triggering a flag, just like a video game! Cybernetic hell! A server linked up to heaven? Wonder what their ping is....

All they need are some wires sticking out of peoples' heads and a trashy death metal soundtrack and the artistic vision will be complete.

tenken

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> Why the f%$#! is it not being developed for PS3? I hate when small budget developers go the easy way and ditch the PS3.

On another note, It seems like these guys are inspired a lot by MGS lol "original bosses with their own strategy and story" "stealth" "high cinematic factor"

BiGBoSSMK23

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @Ashurahori:

along with the holy hand grenade of Antioch.

ExistentialEgg

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> @Yuki: Who has to fight his best friend in the end right? ;D

Witzbold

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> I hope we get The Rocket Launcher of Destiny as a weapon.

Ashurahori

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> sounds cool

invictus2006

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> I expect a statement by the Vatican within a week of its release. Perhaps they'll add "Playing Salvation" to their new list of sins.

I think the concept is awesome, and the graphics don't look bad for the Source engine. I'm eager to see how the gameplay is though.

ianp622

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> Is the main character a teenage boy who pilots a mech?

Yuki

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> Jeez, it's Neon Genesis Evangelion all over again.

Ashurahori

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> Glorious.

Mattjay

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> Im diggin the concept art!

Witzbold

]]> <![CDATA[Salvation Game Clones, Then Kills Christ]]> MMMMmmmm. Sacrilegious.

Modus_Operandi

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