freespeech

ese

You know, if the normal special moves look so spectacular, doesn't that kill the thrill of the super's?

Ultrasinc

Repsode

It ain't aiming for that, a durrr.

@fallingdove:

LOL, aren't you smart, Mr. know-it-all, though personally, I'm not much for smash bros. To limited in your attacks, and Melee was so fucking unbalanced and easy to cheese wins, but precise timing in movement and striking will easily beat out some doofus mashing A, though that usually boils down to moving your character very precisely, and hitting A/B over and over anyway, and wave dashing, which honestly bored me. Don't get me wrong, I loved Melee like so many others, but also HATED it, so fair enough.

@Mikintosh:

To an extent. Some "Expert" SF players (who are usually just dumb trolls) claim the game is "far too complex" for your average human, and only those with god like powers and reflexes can only "master", let alone play the game, please ignore this. Some 3rd strike fans tend to fall into this stereotype, just as some SNK die-hards believe Nishiyama and Matsumoto invented God or something, just because they help create the original SF and then went to SNK, and that is why FF, KOF are the TRUE 2d fighters of some BS... that, or it's just because some of them are very outspoken snobs.

Any-who, anyone can figure how to string some normals and mix up on their own, and most inputs for activating specials and supers are child's play at best. The trickier part is mixing it all up, which STILL isn't that difficult, then you can learns stuffs like deploying simple strategy like baiting and cross ups, knowing how to greet your opponent on wake up, proper poking, etc. Also, depending what SF game your playing will dictate what you can do of course, such as tech/parrying, custom combo abilities, how many supers you have at your disposal, EX specials, etc, etc.

Of course you get even more little tricks, such as tick/kara throws, those crazy cross ups that that catch parts of hit boxes that can't been seen, variose juggling techniques that are usually character specific, basically abuse that is considered "broken". But when it comes down to facing another player and incorporating all this, it ain't all that easy, and this is pretty general stuff, so if I've missed anything (I and I probably did, since I don't exactly play a hell of a lot anymore) add to it and educate some fools.

And for the last time Dan Hsu, Hadoken IS NOT hard to pull off, you hack! I'm going to strangle you when I finally meet you just for that!

Bando

@iamspoo: I don't think that's really it. The debating over SSB is pretty complicated. Even if you keep the people who only play on flat levels with items off separate from the people who play the game on default settings with all the randomness, each group will find plenty to argue about. Why? Hell if I know. The SSB games are great. So are games like 3S and KOF XI. But I wouldn't play one as a replacement for the other. They're different and it's okay!

Grave

fallingdove

I just feel 2D graphics have gotten the shaft ever since we went polygonal and would be impressed if someone stepped up to the plate and pushed the tech further than Guilty Gear. Maybe KOF XII will be it.

Repsode

iamspoo

I know Ono wants to act like SF3 never existed, but if they don't make some sort of bridge between the events of SF2 and the events of SF3, I'm going to be very, very disappointed. The Illuminati stuff in 3 kind of comes out of nowhere.

Grave

Looking forward to the other impressions. I wrote this in an earlier comment but write something about how difficult (or not difficult) it was to jump in and start playing. Ono wants to draw in the casual crowd so let us know how accesible the game was. ie. Could you, after not playing SF for years or never have before, immediately be able to pull off combos and specials?

UmeShoryu

fallingdove

Factoid: Ken and Ryu weren't supposed to appear in SFIII, but after early fan tests and complaints, they were added to the lineup.

fallingdove

Oh, you were serious? Listen up.
Skill is entirely relative to the fighting game. Smash has always had a lower level of entry than an SF... but you know what? The same noob can spam buttons in each and STILL WIN against computer opponents, regardless of game. Don't act like there's some magical difference. A skilled player in SSB, and a skilled player in SF will usually, if not always, beat some form of button masher outside of some sort of bad character matchups. Is the fighting system in SSB as deep and complex as SF? Maybe not, but do you have to worry about terrain in SF? Items? Environmental changes? No. So grow up some.

Ampillion = That Man.

DaiMacculate

So I'm severely disappointed there's no continuation of the Ryu/Gouki conflict

Starplate

ShinobiFist(PSN-XBL)

I'm really surprised that some people are still confused by the name swap but what the heck.

I hope SF4 and KOF XII will bring fighters back to its rightful throne since I think 3d fighters are bastardizations

KaliKOtt

fallingdove

I really want to like this game. But aside from gameplay, the Street Fighter games(Post SFIIturbo) have drawn me in because of its art direction. I loved the character art in SuperSFII, Alpha looked great, and my personal favorite, SFIII revolutionized 2D fighting animation. With IV, I see average character models that lack inspiration, stiff, painted on clothing and hit or miss facial designs. I desperately needed something eye catching with this title; unfortunately, effects, and breath taking fireballs aren't enough at this point and I can only pray that they improve the characters.

fallingdove

If you don't like Super Smash Bros., you don't like fun. And the "skill" it takes to master SF is over-rated.

Mikintosh

In the time between SF2 coming out in Japan and hitting Stateside, Mike Tyson got all rapey, and that was bad for business. But Capcom didn't want the yanks thinking a character was missing, so let's just switch the names of those unplayable characters. Vega is a spanish name as well as a star. Balrog becomes ironic on a pretty character. Monsouir Beeson is french and funny. Sagat doesn't change 'cause he's from SF1.

The End.

Nawara_Ven

jasoncourt

I really want to be optimistic, but they're making it pretty damn hard.

Grave

All of the characters, including the women, look like they could strap on some body armor and not look at all out of place in Gears of War.

chumpwagonrider

Agreed! Fighters are a genre where graphics take a huge next seat to game/fight mechanics. It's a shame most of the gamers now are too young to remember the impact SFII had when it came into the videogame scene.

@deathbunny:

Their original names was that. Vega is the dictator end boss, M. Bison was the boxer (they changed it to avoid legal trouble with M. Tyson) and Balrog was the one with the claw. They still use these names up to now (in Japan anyway).
=)

excaliburps

greyhoundbus

My 7 year old can play SSB and kick ass the same cannot be said about SF it takes skill to play it.

grimdeath

acez2087

Anthropomancer

Why did they do this weird 3 name switch? Why wouldn't they just call the boxer vega, and the end boss M Bison? It's weird.

And speaking of... where are those characters?

deathbunny

So, every time I see a new picture it's a flood of wildly different emotions competing with one another. I guess that's a testament to how long overdue this has been.

futurebiblehero

InEffectMode

Rebelphoenix83

zztopp

A party fighter is something I would classify Super Smash Brothers as.

Mr. Karate

Giolon

zztopp

DaiMacculate

I had put this down to the internet videos being much closer to the original 384x224 resolution that SF4 lifted the art direction from, but perhaps not - what you've described with the animations is exactly what I got from those tiny videos.

I'm now interested to see this in person.

frostcircus

Seems the special effects will be the cream of the visuals, though.

Saint Anima

OT79

Mr. Karate

Mark Wilson

DaiMacculate

OS: Microsoft Windows XP Embedded SP2 [1]
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6400／Pentium 4 651／Celeron D 352 (up to latest Core 2 CPUs supported by the chipset)
Chipset: Intel Q965
Monitor: 720p/1080p/1440p HD LCD Monitor
RAM: DDR2 667/800MHz (up to 4GB)
GPU: ATI RADEON X1600Pro/X1300LE or nVIDIA GeForce 7900GS／7600GS／7300GS, up to latest graphic cards (Radeon HD 3800 or Geforce 9800 series)
Sound: Realtek HD Sound (Upgradeable to latests sound cards)
LAN: 10/100/1000 BASE-T
Storage: 2x 80 GB 10k RPM SATA Hard Drives
Other: 4 x USB 2.0 ports (up to 8), 2 x parallel port, 2 x PS/2
Audio inputs: AKG C535EB Stage Microphone, line-in (Surround 7.1)
Audio outputs: 7.1, SPDI/FX
Media: 80 GB 10000 rpm Hard Drive

zztopp

comedy

Modus_Operandi

Where's my 3rd strike models? Not the 'roid rage bastard children of 3D

Setzer IIDX

Robotube

DaiMacculate

GameraTheGreat

Gladman

@zztopp: They're using the Taito X-2 Type arcade machine; its specs are literally one of that of a mid to high-end PC.

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Mr. Karate

Iss

I saw a MVS system in a Zero's today...does that count?

Shinamano

zztopp