<![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles - Kotaku Comments]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @TheIrishNinja:
oops, this is old, but I meant he preferred american voice acting.
oh well, no one will read this.

poketron

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> its a smart move and will gradually become popular to all games... its an easy way ensure that game is soled in the corect region and since there is no region lock in the system this will prevent imports... so hard luck play-asia

Jay

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @RPGr: Dumb jackass? Someone's flaming here. I never said that I had never played the Japanese Metal Gear games.

Gospel X

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @poketron: ....when did he say that? link or it didnt happen.

TheIrishNinja

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> KOjima himself said he prefered the japanese voice acting, and I agree with him from what i have heard.

poketron

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> No one ships 'uncompressed' audio or video. If it needs to be of the highest quality you just use lossless compression, a well designed codec, or both. Sometimes it's hard to read Internet sites with tired comments like these always popping up. It gets a little old.

People don't want poorly encoded audio with mono output and fixed function GPU with flat lighting models. Otherwise they'd be getting a Wii and assume Cruse'n is state of the art.

Mongoosekun

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> My guess is they use a pile of unneeded overinflated files, than ignored the needto actually compress things when making the game. The PS3 has been known for bloated files since it first launched, so I kinda expected it here. Although not having the space for the english subs which might take 1mb(and im being really really generous here) is laughable at best.

Basically, when I read that all I saw was "lazy developers using oversized files to try and fill the disk to build more hype" But thats just me, someone who hates the MGS series to begin with.

RuneX

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> You know... I've never heard the Japanese cast of the MGS series. But it's undeniable that these are Japanese games originally made with Japanese voice acting, and to me, only having access to a dubbed version of a movie, TV show or (yes) game is a regrettable situation. I have never understood why this bothers people less with games than with movies and TV shows; to me it's all the same. I'm not complaining about the acting in MGS - it's very good (in 2 and 3 at least; slightly more ropey in 1) and the Japanese voice acting may or may not be better, but I'd really like to at least have access to both so I can compare them and judge for myself. It's disappointing that the only way for me to experience the original voices in the previous games would be to import the games in Japanese and struggle through them with my somewhat limited language ability.

That being the case, it's a mild disappointment that for this game, on a Blu-ray disc, the same is still true. Frankly, I'd rather have the game on two discs than be missing either one of the voice tracks. Even if that's not an option, not even including the option for English text in the Japanese version is just plain lazy and removes what could have been a brilliant compromise.

FWIW, everyone who says it's not possible to tell good acting from bad acting without speaking the language is talking crap. No ifs, no buts. (I'm not quite fluent in Japanese but I speak it pretty well now. I can judge retrospectively from when I wasn't able to speak the language. I could still judge good and bad acting and my conclusions haven't really changed.)

And finally, I don't care about Kojima's opinion; he also thought it was a great idea to make Raiden the main character of MGS2 and have Rose constantly call him to ask what day it is. I'd rather play his games and form my own opinion on them than be told to share his.

MysteryPersonX

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> It will be in MGS4 Substanence.

PTUSHA

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> for a game like Yakuza 3, i would want the voices to be in japanese. For a game like MGS 4, i would want the voices to be in English. Makes sense yea?

pandafresh

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> This just shows how lax companies have got with compression technology with the blue ray. Blue ray good, the filling the space thing = true. The problem, it could fit alot more on and we know it.

-Sigil-

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @Suzaku: You tell me one MGS that has had poor voice acting and I will then believe that I am poorly misinformed, otherwise all those who think this game is poorly localized for the US is full of it. MGS is has American based characters. Hell maybe they should go the distance and make the Russians actually speak some Russian to one another. I know people who give me that it's better in Japanese mumbo jumbo, and I tell them this. Do I speak Japanese? Do I give a shit to speak Japanese? No, so once the game hits my home, which happens to be the USA, I want it to be in a language I speak and can understand. Screw all the hidden meanings and that crap. MGS has always been good with it's stories anyway. I find this whole crap about the language to be just a big excuse for some asses to complain once again about Sony and their games. If this game was muliplat no one would give a shit. Well Im sorry folks, swallow your pride and buy a PS3 cause it's only going to be on that console.

Samicham85

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @Samicham85: You sure do talk a lot about a subject you're poorly informed on.

Many, many people like to play games, watch movies, or animation in their native language. The different versions often have differences in the script and dialogue which can offer give further insight into the game.

Many people also prefer the Japanese voice actors, largely due to the fact that Japan has a large number of talented voice actors, and often, English localizations have what is viewed as inferior voice acting.

Suzaku

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @Shaoko: They almost always fill up discs, Kojima has talked about having to cut completed materials from games to get it to all fit. Other developers have talked about that as well, the compression phase, where they try and cram as much stuff in as possible.

Games take up a bunch of room, especially next-gen games, especially when there is a lot of unique elements (just consider the huge amount of weapons MGS4 has compared to MGS3, and that the weapons are extremely customizeable, for example). The audio, the textures, any pre-rendered footage, also, will have to be extremely high-quality. And avoiding harsh compression algorithms will also make the game load faster and run better.

Frankly... The PS3 is region free between the US and Japan. Worldwide release? I say buy both, show Konami that extra support for the final MGS game. \o/

Suzaku

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> They filled 50 GB? BULL FREAKING CRAP... I don't care how many people or years they spent. It's official, if they fit 50 GB it's either the biggest game EVER or it's just full of uncompressed voices and what not so it can just fill up the disc and they're too lazy to do so, or they left a bunch of beta stuff on the disc... I dunno I think them filling up 50GB is BS they could barely fill up a disc last generation I doubt they'd manage to fill up a 50GB disc this generation.

Shaoko

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> Like I said in the other topic about this, what the hell is the point? Does it really honestly matter. I've played all the MGS games. Never once did I give a damn to hear it in Japanese. Why is this even a problem? Shit man people are trying to spew shit just to make the Xbox fanboys happy. Look it's a fact, Blu-Ray killed out HD-DVD, there was a reason for this. Also, if they didn't stick english on the japanese one or vice versa, it makes no difference, most people will only be playing it in the language they understand. Wow, this is just... I dont even know how to describe it. *shakes head*

Samicham85

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> "I still hold my opinion that 99% of the people that would cry about this are indeed being tiresome Japanophiles."

I'll be in the remaining 1%, as I live in Japan and would rather play it in English - meaning I will have to import it from the US, and as such will have to wait longer before I can play it. And me = big MGS fan.

endekks

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @wired_fenix:

I hope that once this game is released Kojima just leaves it and doesn't bring out a Subwhatever version. That role can be replaced by Metal Gear Online for all I care. I kind of want this game, even though I haven't played it yet, to be that final period and nothing comes after it. That would really make me happy because MGS is my favorite games series and finality i think would make enjoy it more. I don't think I made any sense here either. hahaha

Sollus

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> It is completely obvious why they are taking some things out...

They have to have something to add when they release Metal Gear Solid 4: Substance a year later. ^_^

wired_fenix

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> I'm disappointed with you Kojima.
I'm mean fine.. you remove alternate soundtracks... not too happy about it but whatever.
But subtitles too? That's just laziness. If MGS4 is the blockbuster game (and it pretty much is) why cut corners like this?

Siye

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> Personally I prefer the English voices, not only because it's my first language, but the voice acting is stellar.

It also fits better, since Snake is an American, and most of the characters would speak English anyway. The only place it didn't fit was in MGS3, where there were supposed to be some Russian accents, but sounded American.

DismantleRepair

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> Wasn't this the game that was storing all their audio uncompressed for no reason other than to prove the need for BluRay?

10 hours of audio should take up a few gigs tops, and not much of that is voice (voice is mono, for one thing). OK, I'll grant them that fitting this on a DVD would have been troublesome, but there should be plenty of room for both audio track on a BRD.

My best on the real reason? They're behind schedule and just can't be bothered to do the work to put in both languages.

guspaz

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> I honestly never got how people could find reading subtitles fun and think the voice acting is good...it all sounds the same to me..

nypad5

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @JustJake: Citing the SDF is unwise for any actual discussion, man.

@Munto: ugh, man, that would make me sad.

@Dave Silva: or uh, compromise audio quality...?

@KeroseneClimax: @ Poetic: Really? why not?! shit, i loved his work.

@velvet396: you win this thread.

@Witzbold: yes, dear witz, but not liking Hayter is wrong.

@Zolbrod: you shut your dirty mouth, sir.

@HJungle: Bubsy analogy makes no more or less sense than Lost Oddysey, but i appreciate it nonetheless.

@FranUnFine: I dont wanna believe it either, man.

@ssh83: ...?

@dead_red_eyes: id be inclined to agree, but are you familiar with MGS VO's? theyre top notch, man.

@skullivan: crazy-talk! only FF XII had good VO's (unless you meant Auron in X), Halo's eh, and your others...MGS is indeed over the top at parts but its superb, and like you said, fits the series.

id like to second the notion that Hayter's the definitive snake, as i believe Kojima's said this himself before too.

TheIrishNinja

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> I prefer the Japanese voices. I'm sure I'm not the only one. The lack of subtitles isn't a problem for me personally, but for the sake of sticking in some text files... sheesh, it really seems as if Kojima Productions are going out of their way to not give fans what they want.

kiigan

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> A little late to the discussion but here are my two cents about this plus I'll also be replying to the messages left for me in the last MGS4 article:

[kotaku.com]

(Figured I'll get more views if I post in this one).

First, it's one thing to want to watch a LIVE action movie in its native language. (I prefer this over dubbing anyday of the week). The actors on screen are played by real people and you want to know what their real voices are like among others. But it's another thing to want to listen to FICTIONAL characters speak one language over another. If I drew you a picture of some random made up cartoony character how do you assign what sort of voice he has? All anime and video characters are voiceless creations to me.

It seems if the game is developed in Japan or if the game was first released in Japan people want Japanese voices. I would assume people would want to hear GTA, Halo, Mass Effect, Starcraft, Fallout etc with English voices over Japanese. Which is fine concerning the former point. However MGS4 is getting a simultaneous release worldwide so that makes the latter point moot.

Another point people brought up was certain meanings (cultural nuances) can be lost in translation. But if you're reading subs then how do you know if the translation isn't already lost through the text? I can use Family Guy as an example, too many pop culture references that would be lost to Japanese viewers regardless if it was dubbed over or left with subtitles.

Note: I have no problems reading subtitles I've watched subbed Anime for years so this isn't me complaining that the text scrolls by too fast.

UmeShoryu

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> Why couldnt they just make the subtitle files Downloadable content? Can't be that hard.

Patient

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> the fact they can't fit both audio tracks does make me wonder......

As the MG series is well known for its LOOOOOONG cinematic interstitials......How much HD Video have they put in MGS4 to fill up that disc???

Cmon.....MGS3s videos were so long at times that I literally passed out while playing.

GoonieGooGoo

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @Zolbrod: or like hes pushing a kidney stone. I wish he would just talk normaly instead of trying to force the toughness out of the character. Still prefer him to the Japanese voices though, seeing those characters speak Japanese feels like Im watching a Jpn dubbed movie.

slackjawed

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @Atheist Jew: wow, enjoy the wiki, man.

TheIrishNinja

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @Atheist Jew:

I think we've got the new king of exaggeration if there ever was such a title. This has nothing to do with the quality of the title or "laziness".

Judging from your comment, your knowledge of the Japanese language is very limited, so what's the point? Authenticity certainly isn't an issue here because this is MG after all. If reading subs and admiring a language you can't or can barely understand adds to you experience, then.. well that can't be helped.

SG79

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @Atheist Jew: "Not releasing the Japanese voice track on the American release"
"Not including an English subtitle track on the Japanese release,"

These are some issues that vex you so much?

Wow, you definitely have my condolences.

Jest

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @fuzzycuffs: Yeah...Kojima also doesn't consider games to be an art form, so I really don't give two shits what he thinks.

Not releasing the Japanese voice track on the American release, fine. Not including an English subtitle track on the Japanese release, well that's just lazy. Konami won't be getting my money for this game. I realize that means absolutely nothing to Konami considering everyone else that will be buying it, but I expect a certain level of quality from Japanese games, and the fact that this huge, immense title that's been worked on for so many years is lacking both things I find important to play is ridiculous.

Atheist Jew

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> Interesting. I guess I thought with all the space Blu-Ray offered, they'd be able to fit every localisation onto the same disc, and sell that in every region. Whatever. This isn't something I was really hoping for anyway/No big deal.

Highlander Wolf

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @Dir_en_grey: "But not like it would make a difference anyway if you can't understand Japanese and English is all you know. It does make a difference when you can understand Japanese and prefer to play a game or even watch a movie in it's original language though."

Absolutely. If you're fluent in the language and happen to prefer Japanese, then that's entirely understandable. I guess my point is this: to complain that you're going to be denied subtitles for a language you clearly can't understand (hence the need for subtitles) to avoid some perfectly competent voice acting work, some of the best in the business even.. well, then you may want to stop being so defensive every time you hear a derogatory remark thrown your way and take a good, hard look at yourself.

The PS3 has been pretty liberal with it's ability to play overseas material, and serious Japanese speakers will have very little trouble playing a copy for their domestic system if needs be. I just can't see how this affects anyone other than those who can't speak the language, have no discipline to learn the language, but automatically assume that it's superior because it's Japanese. In other words? Konami devastates 4chan and GaiaOnline and just about no one else in the world.

Then again, I realize this argument doesn't hold up for every game, as I'd rather play Shikigami No Shiro II in Ewok or Huttese before enduring the English translation. However, this isn't exactly every game we're talking about.

futurebiblehero

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> What the fuck are you geeks whining about now.

ohhello

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> hayter's voice acting is nogood

push eject

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> sorry, it's not anime kiddies..

real MGS fans no the real voice of Snake

JimmyHACK

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> No big deal. David Hayter is the true voice of Solid Snake. Hell, even Kojima thinks so.

fuzzycuffs

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> Why not use two discs?

kyosen

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @sirsonik:
Logic would state that you import it.

ritful

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> WTF are you guys complaining about? like you guys are actually gonna buy the Japanese MGS4 and struggle as you try to put on English subtitles...

I thought English subtitles was a requirement by Sony though?

ffmusicdj

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @TheSonicGamer:

Quite the spiteful user you are.
I'll keep this short Ace combat 6 is coming to the PS3, it has been confirmed.

ritful

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @futurebiblehero:
I played MGS 2 & 3 in Japanese, 1 in English. I am one of those who prefer to play MGS it in Japanese because the game's voice does not contain only Snake, the interactions between the voice of the characters work together better and probably funnier in Japanese. The original jokes/dialogs are written in Japanese anyway, I'm sure even with the best translation they would still have to change the dialog due to culture differences.

But not like it would make a difference anyway if you can't understand Japanese and English is all you know. It does make a difference when you can understand Japanese and prefer to play a game or even watch a movie in it's original language though.

Dir_en_grey

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> Wow mgs4 filled a bluray? If so I can't see how people are spinning that as bad news, it's amazing!

It's a milestone for gaming. To think that a couple of years ago the only way you could deliver a game of this size would have been on a harddrive.

@sirsonik: PS3 games are region free, you can buy a jp system and import the game with the excellent English voices.

Astrofox

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @PTCoakley: True. But, you have to realize that most dubs are horrible and MGS is one of the few titles that's being made with equal focus on the English language release.

I'm interested in what they will do for FFXIII. Will it also do this?

sascha23

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> This is a game I actually prefer in English since it seems those voices of the game are more popular. Hayter is the definite Snake.

I get the feeling Konami is looking to "double-dip" and release another version of the game in a year that probably is an expanded product with subs and alternate language.

Can't believe even a blu-ray isn't enough to hold the second language.

sascha23

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @dead_red_eyes: voice overs were a first for both the Japanese version and American version of MGS... so, how is it not the original again ???

InEffectMode

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @RPGr: Good points.. but the Diagaea dub is a perfectly fine *alternative* regardless, in my opinion. What's not to love about the English rendition of Etna? I really think they captured her sly demon mischievery (is that even a word?) perfectly in this language, even if some of the jokes had to be sacrificed. I'm not saying the dub is the definative version, I'm saying it's more than acceptable for both the casual audience and the otakus. 99% of dubs can't pull this off.

@lordofsword: I think the word you're looking for is "weeaboo", and while I'll back up their sub-vs-dub arguments 99% of the time... I can't in MGS' case. The dub is the definitive copy of the game, straight from Kojima's mouth. Which, in a strange way, makes the Japanese track the real dub. TIME PARADOX

cornunderscore2x

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> I'm surprised that with all of the japanophile remarks being thrown about no one has pointed out that Hideo Kojima is really no different. If ever there were an American fanboy in Japan, it would be Hideo Kojima.

HJungle

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @Coldbrand: i don't think people are realising the problem here. there are hours and hours of dialogue in MGS games, so much that you probably wouldn't hear it all until you play through the game 3 or 4 times and hear all the specific codec calls when you call a particular character during a particular part of the game after performing a particular action. you might not mind downloading 3 or 4 gigs of dialogue most people couldn't be bothered.

I don't care though, and the only people that would are those that think everything Japanese is superior. The English voice cast is better, even Kojima thinks so, and unless you've only played the JP versions, David Hayter IS Solid Snake. The few JP voices I've heard just don't match, especially Snake, mainly because the characters are American, which is why Konami always recorded only an American voice track in the Silent Hill games.

lordofsword

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> The only reason I can see them doing this is to prevent any potential "damage" being done to US sales... even though, you know, the game is getting a global release.

Demaar

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @sirsonik: Most PS3 games are not region protected.

RPGr

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @futurebiblehero:

Better then MGS? Are you serious? The Soul Reaver games, the FF games, Halo, GTA. MGS almost doesn't even count because the dialogue and story is so crazy you can't take them seriously.

Don't get me wrong, MGS's voice acting isn't bad by any means, it's over the top, which works for the series, but that isn't exactly a demonstration of great acting.

skullivan

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> I'm not fussed, I always thought the MGS English voice work was fine. David Hayter as Snake is just win. Only times I like having the Japanese voice tracks is when the English acting is absolute crap, the Japanese track has a rather good cast or any Naruto game so I can save my ears from hearing "BELIEVE IT!" every 10 seconds.

Odin

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> FSCKFQ#$R#Q$TQ#%Y$%YH#$&#$W$YT

Im in Japan and have only been here for 4 months, I don't know enough Japanese to understand MGS games without subtitles....and here I was actually considering buying a PS3 since itll have one of the only system exclusive games i want to play and a backwards compatible system...

sirsonik

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> The Japanese cast for MGS series always sound richer and more dramatic on the delivery than the American counterpart.

I hated Liquid Snake's (I loved him in Baldur's Gate but not in MGS) and Grey Fox's english voice. Their delivery was absolutely terrible. I'm glad Kojima is sticking with Ocelot's english VA for him.

But despite my preference for the Japanese dub, the english cast for MGS4 is good all across the board except Raiden (sorry Quinton, your voice is too whimpy but that's more the casting director's fault than the actor)

Starplate

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> If this is "next gen" and all, then why the fuck can't we get foreign language tracks on our games?! Most American VOs suck donkey ass, and there's few out there that do it very well. I'm sure that MGS4 will be better than most, but just for once I'd love to play a game with the original voice acting.

dead_red_eyes

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @manjikengo: Cowboy Bebop was more a laid back blues vibe. I felt it was suitable and nuanced. Or maybe thats the psychedelic shiitake mushrooms talking.

cactaur

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @cornunderscore2x: The problem with the Disgaia dub (and game translation) was that they changed a lot of the humour in the game. I turned on the Japanese track and found out a very big portion of dialogue did not match the English text at all. The basic plot was ok but the humour was completely different.

Yes, I understand that some jokes don't translate well from Japanese to English but a lot of the jokes were very anime/game centric as opposed to Japan-centric humour (which works out OK due to the fact that Disgaia itself was very "otaku").

One thing I've seen lately in translations are misplaced lines. Kinda annoying in Lost Odyssey when I have english subs on and Janson cracks a sarcastic joke in the subtitles but the Japanese vocal track has him saying the equivalent of "errrr" in a sarcastic manner.

RPGr

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> meh what do we care. If we would by a PS3 because it's a playstation, we will buy mgs4 because it's a metal gear title.

ssh83

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> Eh, makes sense.

Using that Snake-grabbing-nuts pic though has gotten so horribly cliche-old though.

Frank

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> Bah!

I hate American VO's! They sound like shit.
Good thing I can just buy the Korean release of MGS4, and listen to JP VO with Korean Subtitles unless Sony pulls a fast one and gets Korean VOs as well...

Gummyworm

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> Now I HAVE to import the US version, which sucks because I would have loved to have been able to just run up to the store and grab a copy. It's a shame they couldn't have at least squeezed some subs in on the Japanese version.

And if you have the choice, why the hell would you WANT the Japanese voices? I would easily take the English ones over the Japanese one if they were on the same disc... David Hayter is awesome.

PTCoakley

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> I gotta' agree with most of the points made here.. I'm a diehard subs guy, I usually won't buy J-games without Japanese language options, but.. MGS is just in it's own ballpark. After playing the brilliant English dubs since MGS1, Snake - and in particular, Raiden - sound COMPLETELY wrong to me in Japanese.

Ghost in the Shell is similar, being a long running series with a great dub - after hearing Motoko and Batou's great English voice work (and the great chemestry inside their English banter) all these years, I can't imagine them any other way. In a way, I guess this makes the series kind of branch off into two separate entities.. Same stories and same characters, but with slightly different personalities and line deliveries that makes each experience unique and perfectly acceptable - again, all due to the fact that the English version was so well done that it became a perfectly acceptable alternative to the original. This is very rare, though.

Of course, most of that is a moot point since Kojima admits himself that he perfers the English version of MGS.. in a way, that makes the *Japanese* version the real alternative experience.

And, on the subject of incredible English dubs, I think the original Disgaea deserves some love. Give it up! D:

cornunderscore2x

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @futurebiblehero: HAH! You're the 2nd person EVER to have drawn that parallel to Snake Plisken I've EVER seen.

Ah, those were the best B movies ever.

ManjiKengo

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> I was looking forward to the voice actor of Vamp in the Japanese version, as he is one of my favorite movies directors.

knikola

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @Snowrunner: Multiple copies of individual high res textures needed to cut down on load times the likes you will have never seen before unless you've played the witcher on PC.

ManjiKengo

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @Witzbold: Well if you watch Escape From New York, you'll notice that Hayter's forced delivery is clearly intentional. Also, judging from the colossal amount of movie references within the series I wouldn't see how this obvious homage to Kurt Russel's performance would actually compromise the experience's "purity" so to speak. If anything, it only further enhances it.

But yes, I still hold my opinion that 99% of the people that would cry about this are indeed being tiresome Japanophiles. However, I rarely if ever take on an arrogant or overly-declarative tone in any of my comments. This is one of those very few that I'll stand behind (In fact, if I'm guilty of anything it's frequent failed attempts at being funny). I'm not seeing where the "Dont be pulling the my views are better than yours bullshit here with name calling on those whos views differ from yours again" is coming from.

futurebiblehero

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> Space Issues??? It has Blu-Ray!!!!! How can they fill up 50GB????

Snowrunner

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @FranUnFine: Some people I know, and plenty of IMDB members, swear up and down that Bale sucks and Keaton IS Batman because Bales voice is "too forced" when he's Batman.

ManjiKengo

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @Witzbold: I've always seen the "trying too hard" sound of his voice as quite fitting since the whole air about the games is just way over-the-top melodrama. In that regard I find the JP voices too serious for the material at hand. ;/

Norellicus

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @manjikengo: Who... what... wait... there are people who hate Christian Bale as Batman? o.0;

FranUnFine

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @futurebiblehero:

Cowboy Bebop.

Lost Odyssey.

ManjiKengo

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @Evo: I agree. I am trying to think of would be ironic.... How about this: MGS4 does get a port to the 360, but the quality is cut to fit on DVD. No, that's not ironic either, just unfortunate. How about this: In response to fan complaints, Kojima delays MGS4 to compress audio, reduce texture quality, and add multiple language tracks. Gamers with blurry vision and lossy hearing rejoice. Okay, this would be be it. I don't think I like ironic.

I have no clue how this can be seen as a negative about blu-ray. More space means more flexibility. Kojima chose to pack in more content and higher quality localizations rather than to save money and print one disc. How is this bad? I could see how some people might want Japanese voice with subtitles, but this isn't like anime. The english voice acting should be excellent.

gozirah

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @Witzbold: People hate Christian Bale as BAtman because he sounds too forced.

Personally he's the best batman ever.

People somehow hate Spike from Cowboy Bebops voice in english because he doesn't "sound as good" as the japanese VA.

I think the Japanese VAs for Cowboy Bebop sound super bored throughout the show.

I hate Japanese Goku, Gohan and Gotens voice actress.

We all have differing opinions, but like you said...Doesn't mean I'm right you're wrong.

ManjiKengo

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @HJungle: But! But! Sony told me bigger is always better irregardless of how poor normal people think the game is... Lair

NitrousO

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> This is the definition of irony.

ManjiKengo

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> I wonder what it's like to live in a world based around the assumption that bigger is better. Using the knee jerk logic of the hyperactive, if a new Bubsy was announced to be 200 gigabytes in size it would, by default, be the best game ever created.

Bubsy. Best game ever created.

I hope you're proud of yourselves.

HJungle

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @Witzbold: Agreed. Hayter sounds like he has a potato stuck perpetually up his bum.

Zolbrod

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> Why the hell would you want the Japanese language instead of English with American characters,I would understand if the characters were Japanese. When I watch Japanese a flick I use subtitles because the English voice overs are horrible on Japanese movies or pretty much any Asian movie.

dreamer3kx

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @futurebiblehero: I just dont like his VA since he sounds like hes trying too hard rather than actually talking.

Dont be pulling the my views are better than yours bullshit here with name calling on those whos views differ from yours again

Folks deserve to have an opinion on why they prefer one over the other granted they dont act like tits about it.

Witzbold

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> Any native English speaker who prefers the Japanese language track on a Metal Gear game is just being a tiresome Japanophile. I dare anyone to point me to a series with better English voice acting.

futurebiblehero

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @SAKY:

I know the history. I've seen other people play through 1 and 2, and I've read up on Wiki so I know the history.

I'm not completely out of the loop. :P

PapaBear434

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> yes, because the masses are just clamoring for this to be done, and the title will sell less copies without it.

no, wait. no they aren't, and no it won't.

velvet396

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @JustJake: you need to look up the word 'ironic'. And your point actually proves the reverse. If the programmers can hardly squeeze the game into 50GB disc, how many disc would they have to use if they were using DVD?

Evo

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> I couldn't do Jap with Eng subtitles. David Hayter is such a wonderful voice actor, it would be an injustice to him.

Ryadic

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @KeroseneClimax: /cry on losing Cam Clarke. No more saying "Turtle power"!

RPGr

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @SolidOni_ds: Damn, that ruins it a bit for me. The VA for Mei Ling in MGS1 did a perfect accent for a Hong Kong born person who is fluent in english. I was really impressed by it. For any HK born person who speaks perfect english, they sort of have this weird combination of standard oriental accent but with a British "zing" to it (for lack of a better word) due to HK having been a Britsh colony for such a long time (before being handed back to China).

RPGr

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @Saint Anima: Kotaku's Poetic Massacre: I know. It's a dame shame too, seeing as how Cam Clarke is arguably one of my favorite MGS voice-actors next to Hayter, Phil LaMarr and Greg Eagles.

KeroseneClimax

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> I'm just putting it ut there but...couln't they allow the DL of other languages on the PSN. Or follow the route of allowing the installation of a "language pack" to the HDD?

I dunno, those seem like viable options to me, but I don't get paid the big bucks. That, and I'm sure someone alot sharper already thought this up.

-EDGE-

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> I actually prefer the English voices. Even Hideo himself said he favors David Hayter as the voice of Snake.

Vash108

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> And with that, snake really grabs me in the nuts. Not particularly surprised since thats the way its been since MGS2 tho.

cactaur

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> I want to know who wants to hear the japanese voices so I can rip their voice box out!

MGS english voice acting is the BEST voice acting out there! By the Gods, I LOVE David Hayter's Solid Snake, and I wouldnt be able to enjoy the game without it.

As for the blu-ray thing, they're either lying or are seriously using up all the space on the disc, meaning no 360 port.

As for the whole porting to the 360, look at it this way.

When MGS2 came out on the PS2, it was awesome, and I'm assuming there was a similar hype for that game.
NOW, they did eventually port it to the Xbox. And what happened?
It had framerate problems, and was a bit buggy.
Now think about it. Xbox was more powerful then PS2, so can you imagine porting a game meant for the PS3 onto the 360?
If it ever happens, I cry for 360 users. We'll still have the superior version.

And THAT'S for taking away Ace Combat 6 from me, you Microsoft bastards!





TheSonicGamer

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> I prefer the accents, but yeah, they're not actually supposed to be there quite so much. If you've watched the trailers for MGS4, you'll see Naomi has dropped hers and she's even voiced by the same VA.

Tale

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @RPGr:
I thought so too, but I'm going with the Kojipro podcast. I believe Kris Zimmerman was on the show that day and was explaining the situation. She also explained Revolver Ocelots voice being Pat Zimmerman's rather than Cam Clarkes. Again that was what Kojima wanted.

SolidOni_ds

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @SolidOni_ds: I thought she was supposed to be Hong Kong born? Still, I prefer the accents, makes the characters feel more distinct and the organization feel more global as opposed to homogenous. I mean we had Russian, Chinese, American, British. It just felt more dynamic that way.

RPGr

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @Field Anony-mouse:

Well, from what I can tell they're doing some very funky stuff with sound.

In the cutscenes, you have the ability to control MK2 and run around the room while the cutscene unfolds, and depending on where you are in the room, you'll hear the conversation differently, as well as hear the recorded breathing of those in the room who aren't speaking.

That would certainly ramp-up the file size, but its also an insanely interesting usage of storage.

SnakeCL

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> As many others have said, I'd much rather listen to David Hayter and his awesomeness that is his voice. :)

Arttemis

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @Gospel X: Don't pull the R-card (and don't pull it at all like some dumb jackass as you just did) when you haven't heard the Japanese versions of the MGS series. The Japanese actors all delivered in a very similar tone. Everyone sounded very serious in a military style way.

RPGr

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @SolidOni_ds: I was going to say, I'm skeptical lately when games claim solid native 1080p/60fps. Getting 60fps in 1080p native or upscaled within an arcade title using vector animation is one thing, but 3D with a lot going on as you articulated makes it less likely to be true. Hence why Sony has since renigged it's 1080p native game standard claims and have resorted to the 720p standard.

TC

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @RPGr:
appearantly Kojima wanted it without the accent originally. He said she was American born so why would she have an accent?

SolidOni_ds

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> In other words:
"We didn't spend 150 000 USD on Hayter et al just because we like to waste money"

The Dark Defender

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @SnakeCL: CD quality stereo audio will run you about 8.7 megabyte per minute uncompressed. This is a rough estimate based on a CD being 650 megabytes, and holding 74 minutes. At least those were the original values before all these fancy 700 and 800 meg discs came out.

I have to agree though, if they already filled up 25 gigabytes (or in the absurd case, 50 gigabytes!) then it really seems that they're opting to do everything in ultra high quality (read uncompressed) where they use 2048x2048 textures for even the smallest objects (when it's impossible to see that quality), and voices natively encoded into native 5.1 dolby surround sound (which doesn't make any sense since they're mono sources).

Field Anony-mouse

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @KeroseneClimax: No Cam Clarke? Well fudge...

I hope they brought back Mei Ling with the accent from MGS1 as opposed to an accentless GC version.

I don't care about politically correct, with the accents in MGS1, each character felt unique.

RPGr

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @SAKY:
Ive heard 1080p several times by the kojipro PR team, but that was a while back, so who knows for now

SolidOni_ds

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @PapaBear434: same here but I wouldn't want MGS because I know there is a lot of story for the characters which is only found in all the other "Solid" games.

SAKY

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @WhaleMenace: They all sound the same? Racist much?

Anyway, I don't get why anyone who speaks English would even want the game in Japanese. The English voices are pretty amazing. David Hayter, my favorite Guyver, really delivers as Solid Snake. Cam Clarke, who may not be in this game, is probably one of my favorite and most distinct voice actors I've ever encountered in games and cartoons. Again, what English speaker isn't satisfied with the English voices?

Gospel X

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> This must be a huge God damn game to fill up a BluRay like that. Then, now that they combined MGS4 and MGS Online into one game, I suppose it makes sense it's filled to capacity.

I have never actually played a MGS game before, but this game is looking like I may just do that. If for nothing else, all my friends want to play the online component. And I want to play around with the camo armor in single player.

PapaBear434

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> Luckily the MGS series have always been a high point of english VA in games to the point where the english cast is generally superior to the Japanese cast in both delivery and atmosphere.

RPGr

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @SolidOni_ds: 720p?

SAKY

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @SAKY:
I heard that it is at 60 fps when there isnt a lot going on, but drops to 30fps when theres a ton going on, but Im not sure so dont quote me on it

SolidOni_ds

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @SolidOni_ds: Whats MGS4 going to run at?

SAKY

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @SAKY:
all depends on the devs. Gran Tursimo 5 prologue runs in 1080p at 60 fps, where as resistance does 720p. All about what devs want

SolidOni_ds

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @KeroseneClimax: No Cam Clark for the english version, sadly.

Saint Anima

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @Cchrist: Even Kojima prefers the english voice actors. So, I think I might have *a* clue.

Tale

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> Don't know about anyone else, but I think the game is going to be awesome if the only complaints so far were due to missing voice tracks and subtitles. Sure, no one really has played it yet to truly judge, but we're off to a good start in my opinion.

Saint Anima

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> Pools closed due to lack of disc space.
@WhaleMenace: Yeah, Listening to Banjo Ginga doing Liquid's voice, as opposed to Cam Clark, just feels less memorable and distinct. I'm a bit biased toward the English voice actors/actresses - having grown up listening to them - but every opportunity I have to check out the Japanese versions, I still feel the English performers do a better job with their characters.

Apparently, Kojima has gone on record as being a fan of the English voice track as well, hence why the international versions are usually in English outside of other reasons.

KeroseneClimax

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @Tale:

To some degree, I did too. With the release of International versions of this game, FF games, and GOD knows what else, it would seem there is a market for this sort of stuff, but I guess we were wrong to think so...

American_N_Japan

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @theprof00: speaking of HD are PS3 games running in 1080p yet or is 720p still the standard? Just curious.

SAKY

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> I really doubt that they ran out of space on a 50GB space. I won't believe it until I see it. I really think they did this to protect their respective markets so that they can sell the Japanese versions at the regular high Japanese price. Damn politics.

CecilTheDarkKnight

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> Nobody said that there wasn't enough room for subtitles, they probably just don't want Americans buying the Japanese versions and stick to their own market.
Secondly an audio track in HD for a movie takes up most of the space already. Now imagine 10 hours+ (if you're badass) of HD audio layered among voice tracks, sfx, secret extra games, timed in game tracks, music tracks.... etc etc....
Do yall not remember that ps3 can play in HD? or is the argument that this game is not HD?



theprof00

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> It's okay, Hayter is THE voice for Snake anyway. The MGS series has been known for fantastic voiceovers.

n2Depth

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @fearing: Really?! I've never hear that. I think that would be a great read if you had a link. hmm? link? please?

SAKY

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @Marasai:

Probably because DVD games weren't on the same scale...

Reminds me, weren't you the one that said in the Phil Harrison thread, "Good riddance to bad rubbish"? I don't think any degree of reasoning is going to change your mind judging by your recent responses.

SnakeCL

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @eastx: That or if you believe what the ex-harmonix employee posted in his blog a few months back, you have to put a texture(or other in-game asset), that on a regular dvd on another platform would only need to be on the disc once, several times on a blu-ray disc for the PS3 to be able to find it without loading forever. I could see if that's the case why you'd fill up a Blu-ray. His claim was that the PS3 needed it's games to be on Blu-ray just to keep up with other consoles (I'm just gonna say PC here to stop this from becoming a fanboy PS3 vs 360 argument(not that it will help)) and have the game look equivalent. Just a thought, but I'd guess that'd be why they'd fill a whole disc.

fearing

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @SnakeCL: there's no real answer to that depends on the format quality and the sound itself.

Cchrist

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> Uh. Aren't they shipping this on a Blu-Ray disc?

Are they really that lazy to NOT IMPLEMENT A BIT OF COMPRESSION on the disc?!

Dave Silva

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> Ryan Payton promised us the best voice over in the mgs series yet. I'm hopeing for goku's voice as one of the main villians.

Munto

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> "due to a lack of apparent disc space"

This must mean they are pressing the game on 25GB discs. There's just no way they filled a 50GB disc to the point where they don't have room for an alternate voice track...

skullivan

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @eastx:

I'm curious, how much space does typical uncompressed audio use on a minute by minute basis?

Because last I checked, there's a plethora of 25GB Blu Ray movies with 6+ hours of audio tracks, and that isn't the majority of the data on the disc...

SnakeCL

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @SolidOni_ds:
Apparently you don't since I never had these issues on DVD games.

It seems not even metal gear is immune to the feature removing powers of bluray.


Marasai

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @Tale: You really don't have a clue do you...

Cchrist

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> comment lag again?!?!?

SAKY

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @FranUnFine: lol, it's funny because it's true. I'm sure this will be a great game for fans of the series and this issue will only matter to the folks that prefer JP voice acting (anime freaks).

SAKY

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @Tale:
?_?

Brian Ashcraft

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @SnakeCL: You should stop buying into all that. Subtitles won't fit on the disc? Yeah, right. The game fills the whole disc without using FMV? Then they're sure not using efficient audio or texture encoding.

eastx

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> I thought it was generally accepted that the english voices were preferred, even among the Japanese.

Tale

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> just do a mandatory 5-10 GB install and it all should be good.

like capcom.

or multiple discs.

Dakobah

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @JustJake:

But, that still means that MGS4 is a bigger game than anything currently on 360, right?

If anything, it vindicates the usage of a HD storage medium in a console.

SnakeCL

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @JustJake:
Well think of how many dvd's it would take if it was ported to 360? Which probably wont happen now because Sony made the smartest move they could and bundled with with the ps3

SolidOni_ds

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @FranUnFine:
Thats part of the charm of metal gear. It really immerses you in the story. It's brilliant

SolidOni_ds

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @SnakeCL: It is ironic because they were bragging that 360 needs extra discs for bigger games. Then they say that MGS4 will not have subtitles in English or have Japanese voice tracks because of space on the blu-ray.

JustJake

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> I don't know why an optional english sub track is not added.

It would expand the longevity of the game by 200%

After you finished your english copy you could get the the japanese version for an new exotic experience of the game.

If your japanese you could learn a bit english from it, and vice versa

Gametech

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> So, let's see. Next year Konami will release MGS4 International Edition in Japan.

Agies

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> I'm still laughing about the whole "it won't fit on the disk" thing :D

Cchrist

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @SnakeCL: If with "game" you mean "cut scenes", then probably yes. ;)

FranUnFine

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @JustJake:

How is it ironic? Makes sense to me.

SnakeCL

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> They can try multi discs if there is not enough room on the blue ray. Look at Lost Odyssey, they even used paper envelopes to hold the extra discs ^^

Munto

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @omegasc:
50 gig

SolidOni_ds

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> will it be on 25GB or 50GB dual layer BD?

omegasc

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> oh boy...this is gonna open flood gates of unnecessary fanboy arguments.

Jun581 likes street fighter 2 but he hates zangeif

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> This is kind of ironic since Sonydefensefarce I mean force said that it will not come to 360 due to the lack of space on the discs.

JustJake

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> "Short, to the point and unfortunate. Ya can't have everything, kids! Sorry."

got nothing promissed by BD...well related to "play wordwilde, region free blabla"

ibunkun

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> Im sorry, but listening to MGS in japanese is like listening to a radioshow if all the people have the same name. All male japanese characters sound exactly the same, deep and attacking voices.

WhaleMenace

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @ndsOtaku: I'm with you... No more room on Blu-ray? How much crap did they stuff in the disc? Damn... now I can't wait to get this game...

VitFer2007

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @ndsOtaku: Kojima said before that Blu Ray is not enough....

Kyle81

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> There's not enough blue rays dammit! add more

Manny

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> Hey Ashcraft why not ask Kojima studios if they could just release the other languages later as downloadable content?

Coldbrand

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> Does anyone prefer the japanese voice acting over the english ones? The english voice acting has always been superb since the original Metal Gear Solid and its also pretty amazing that they have the same voice cast from all the previous entries in MGS4. I find it odd anyone would prefer otherwise unless there native language is japanese.

IIGrayFoxII

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> I reserved 2 copies of this game, one at my house near my college and one near my parents house, so whichever I am closest to when it comes out, I will be set.

WhaleMenace

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @DiscipleofJamzy:
well if they are really hardcore they can import. Depending on what the new ps3 looks like I might be importing the MGS4 ps3 bundle from Japan. But the voicework in the English version is brilliant, and more real to the story

SolidOni_ds

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> @ndsOtaku:

Nope, because ya know, the game actually took up that space ;-)

SnakeCL

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> No big deal to me.

Gamebrain87

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> What does it matter, anyway? It's gonna be universally delivered to us all at the same time.

Unless the people who prefer the japanese voices on characters who are supposed to speak english get pissed off because of this.

Ashurahori

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> NoOOOOOoOOoOOoO


+ Watch video

Actually, I grew up with the David Hayter voice work and don't mind a bit. But yeah, some folks are going to get dramatic.

DiscipleofJamzy

]]> <![CDATA[Japanese MGS4 Won't Have English Subtitles]]> Don't think its really a problem. For those who totally understand the "feeling" of the Japenese version, they'd have to speak language anyway.

SnakeCL

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