David Jaffe Re-Invisions Mario, Is Going Bald - Kotaku Comments

David Jaffe Re-Invisions Mario, Is Going Bald

dudeman5000 — Sun, 02 Mar 2008 14:39:46 MST

Keighley is a great videogame journalist (see his other work) and imo one of the very best around. Plus I usually always agree with his POV on games.

I'm sure the Kotaku Tower agrees somewhat if they were willing to have him for part of the special guest editor a couple months back.

dudeman5000

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slingblade — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:08:18 MST

Jaffe got PWNED.

slingblade

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DrunkenNinja12 — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:39:10 MST

I hate this guy with all the hate my little heart can muster.

I'm sick of his "I'm the rebel of the video game industry" attitude. So what if you drop an F bomb here and there. That doesn't make you cool.

Nor an expert in video games.

He's taken all the credit for the GoW series and now he thinks he's the authority on the industry.

Give me a break...

DrunkenNinja12

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Admonisher — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:56:06 MST

This guys an idiot......hes the Paris Hilton of the game world.....put a mic in front of his stupid head and just listen to the idiotic crap that spews out.

Admonisher

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AwShucks — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:56:57 MST

I love interviews with Jaffe. Anyway, I find it hilarious that Kutaragi knew who he is. I just wish Sony would officially announce TM for PS3 so we don't have to skirt the issue. Considering all the message was "TM is coming for PS3" it might be a PSN download of TM1 or something.

AwShucks

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ManjiKengo — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:28:06 MST

OH SHIT

his hair is super thinning on top!

ManjiKengo

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Gray665 — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:09:57 MST

Personally, I think the eastern devs have been left in the dust by european and north american developers, but that's just my opinion based on what I like about a game nowadays.

Gray665

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dgonchild — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:59:09 MST

That was actually a pretty fun interview to watch. No formalities, just 2 guys talking to each other.

dgonchild

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Tyber_Zann — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:35:23 MST

Go Jaffe! He has got to be the coolest guy in gaming. He seems like what I should be 10-20 years from now (if I were to make video games). If he can pull a Franklin out of his pocket with no problems, then that's my role model!

Twisted Metal on PS3 - teetering on the brink of confirmation. What a cocktease.
I'm getting tired of Sweet Tooth though; I hope they bring back Mr. Slam.

Tyber_Zann

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kidnicky — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:34:52 MST

The last thing Nintendo or anyone else needs is more American developers. Maybe Mario can hold a gun,or say "fuck",or put a gun on his car,or dual wield two cars with guns on them. And Slipknot can cover "One is the Loneliest Number".

Final Fight Streetwise FTL.

kidnicky

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baked ham — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 06:21:21 MST

@Power_Wrist: Well that's not true. Well, maybe in a round about sort of way it is, but personally I'm thrilled with the selection of games that have existed on the Playstation brand of consoles. I'm not too familiar with Kuturagi or what he's done. Maybe he's responsible for the success of the brand, and for the decisions that have led the brand to have so many classic games over the years... but personally, I feel a little stupid saying this, I barely know anything about him haha.

baked ham

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Bernard McGraw — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 06:05:47 MST

I love Jaffe. Great guy.

Bernard McGraw

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voidler — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 05:41:18 MST

Keighley is a dick sometimes

voidler

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Demoneyejin — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 05:18:29 MST

I mean, I'm glad it's not just me who noticed that Jaffe is a lot more humble here than he would normally be. My opinion, He shoulda been a rat bastard and put everyone in their place; F this and F that, I like that Jaffe better.

Demoneyejin

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Sabre_Justice: Okay, no more long name. — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 05:15:44 MST

@SolFalling: You got a point there. Still, how many westerners would be that enthusiastic about the 360 when Nintendo and Sony games are available in even better abundance than home?

Sabre_Justice: Okay, no more long name.

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SolFalling — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 04:45:41 MST

@Sabre_Justice: Okay, no more long name.: Top 10 in Japan doesn't really mean anything, at least if it's just a one week stint. Compare Bioshock's 18,000 in it first week to SSBB's 800,000, or SMG's 400,000. Most of the niche titles that come out every week or so for PS2 or DS or PSP also manage to reach 100,000 or so. I'd say Bioshock is even below average compared to how stuff like COD4, GOW, and other 360 releases did in Japan.

As for the cult following thing, that might be true to an extent, but you also have to consider the ex-Pat population in Japan. The 360's install base is a bit over 200,000 in Japan, but you can bet a significant fraction of that are basically sales to westerners who are living in Japan.

SolFalling

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Candlejack — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 04:45:19 MST

I laughed hard several times during the videos. Just good entertainment when Jaffe's on. I like the guy.

Now give me some PS3 games on Blu-Ray that I actually want to buy, David. :P Not saying CAC was bad, but I don't go for the PSN mini games all that much.

Candlejack

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Snake726 — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 04:42:46 MST

For someone so opinionated and fiery, Jaffe is always so modest. I have to say he always seems like one of the most intelligent and well spoken game designers out there, even with his colourful language.

Can't wait to see what he does next, and I really hope it's an original IP.

Snake726

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Sabre_Justice: Okay, no more long name. — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 03:10:17 MST

@VakeroRokero: No More Heroes maybe, but Bioshock just hit the top 10 in JAPAN. I think hardcore gaming is still alive and kicking.

By the way, anyone else subscribing to the theory that the 360 is getting an underground cult following in Japan?

Sabre_Justice: Okay, no more long name.

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Retry — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 03:00:32 MST

@VakeroRokero: It sounds like your saying the we should all just give into mediocre "casual" games, and give up on the hardcore skill based games. I don't know if that is what you are saying, but it seems that that is the direction the industry is headed, and that makes me sad. But hey, you gotta make your money right?

Retry

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LittleBigPlaneteer — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 02:42:43 MST

@Groovy_Guy:

I completely agree. Geoff comes off as an idiot who thinks he has Jaffe all chalked up but Jaffe keeps proving him wrong. Maybe he was drunk or something.

LittleBigPlaneteer

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kiigan — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 02:38:31 MST

"re-invisions"?

kiigan

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joelface — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 02:35:05 MST

man, jaffe always has the MOST entertaining interviews. LOL. i just spent like 10 minutes watching both of those, and i wasn't bored for a second.

not many other game designers could pull that off. so i think thats worth something.

im SO stoked for TM-PS3 though, you don't even know.

joelface

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VakeroRokero — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 01:46:02 MST

@AtomixIGN: how about Final Fantasy? Metroid? Metal Gear? don't they have great stories and cutscenes? Legend Of Zelda anyone?

Most of the world isn't as online as America, why? because 3% of the population has broadband, and games don't work over phone lines, Japan has more broadband acess than America and England together yet people don't really care playing online... China and Korea love online and hate american games...

And the hardcore has turned into a niche market, if you keep making games aimed toward these guys your title is probably gonna get run over by casual titles like Nintendogs, Guitar Hero, Dance Dance Revolution, Wii Fit, etc.

Look how bad No More Heroes is doing or Bioshock. This games would have been Top 10 in the last gen, but now they are just filler, no matter how great they are.

And there's this SEGA game called Spartan. play it to the end and then play God Of War. You will understand how great he is, and the game is excellent but it had been done before, by japanese developers.

But hey, he DOES say he's happy at least Kutaragi has heard of him.

VakeroRokero

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Thassodar — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 01:39:36 MST

@TriFF51: Cause I play D&D DUH!

Thassodar

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GranzonTotoro — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 01:18:09 MST

Wow, Kutaragi seems so... nice here.

GranzonTotoro

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Groovy_Guy — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:34:47 MST

Keighley is completely outclassed here by Jaffe....anyone else get that vibe? It's like Jaffe is trying to have a cerebral conversation and Keighley keeps interrupting with with the good sense of a drunk 12 year-old.

Groovy_Guy

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DigiMish — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:32:15 MST

haha, Jaffe lost the bet, that was pretty funny.

His blog is really interesting...He's honest, and I enjoy his views on videogames and game culture in general. I check his blog once a day.

DigiMish

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nickmasterx — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:24:09 MST

Jaffe: Making games is like making sweet, sweet love. One day you'll understand, son. lol

nickmasterx

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AtomixIGN — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:20:54 MST

@ Vakero Rokero With the Japanese console market moving more and more towards mobile games and the Western Market representing the lionshare of the profits and considering how awesome twisted Metal and God of War sell I think investing in western talent and designers and releasing more western designed games on the Wii and having them ready and working when it's time for the next round of console wars would pay off in dividends.

Western games focus on several areas Nintendo doesn't. Specifically and especially the Cinematic aspect to game design. Heavy story, Voice Acting, in game story progression over cut scenes, Online community play and competition. Nobody polishes a game like Nintendo, Nobody makes a better game to play together with friends than Nintendo. (Harmonix is catching up though) But their designers, especially Miyamoto, do not subscribe to these western game design concepts. And they're especially bad at attracting and maintaining the self-described hardcore who care more about perception and branding then actual design and gameplay.

Recruiting guys like Jaffe and setting up an EAD US division with a couple of teams would allow Nintendo to explore uncharted territory. They don't need to. They're great where they are and with who they have. Their direction is perfect for them. I'm just saying... Why be happy with what you have when you can have more. Nintendo has never been content and has never intentionally limited their appeal, market, or the potential to acquire an even larger market share and profit margin. NST is in Redmond. All the designers are in California. Mostly in the San Fran Bay area. I'd love to see what could come out of mixing Nintendo's strategy. And even more I'd love to see Shiggy's notes on one of Jaffe's games.

Sorry for fanboying out. :(

AtomixIGN

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Beyene — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:16:48 MST

Geoff is probably the best interviewer I have seen.
Always asking the bawlzy questions.
Cringtastic!

Beyene

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TriFF51 — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:12:27 MST

damn how do i edit my poor english ^

TriFF51

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TriFF51 — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:10:42 MST

@Thassodar:

Jaffe seems like a cool guy....what makes you think he's wanna hang out with you anyway?

TriFF51

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Sabre_Justice: Okay, no more long name. — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:08:21 MST

@Kirbytheslayer: In-Kirby XMB: three words: Shadow the Hedgehog.

Though it could have been much better with decent camera and level design, and had the innovative idea of a plotline that actually turns out differently depending on how you play, I have to say the core was pretty gorramn stupid and a good example of why turning what's known as a family-friendly game into Gears of War doesn't work.

Sabre_Justice: Okay, no more long name.

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Sean2-D2 — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:03:49 MST

Jaffe is boss. I would give anything just to be able to hang out with him and talk for a day.

Sean2-D2

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Monsieur Fap★Fap! — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:02:52 MST

Hey, he didn't come off like a total jerk in this interview. I kind of like him more now.

Monsieur Fap★Fap!

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Puff — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:01:18 MST

This guy is pretty jokes.

Puff

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zoesch — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:58:06 MST

@VakeroRokero: Sales figures for Twisted Metal and God Of War seem to disagree with your assessment of Jaffe, sure he's a loudmouth, but surprisingly one of the few honest ones about it.

zoesch

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VakeroRokero — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:53:01 MST

@AtomixIGN: Dude why would he need guys like this dork? americans are good at adding guns to games or games about shooting guns, everything else is done by japanese, if he started recluiting westerned for a game I bet we would first look in Europe rather than american programmers.

Even Sony knows this guy isn't worth it. And they created him.

VakeroRokero

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Thassodar — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:52:30 MST

He's not such a bad guy. Would I hang out with him? Probably not because he'd annoy the balls off me. But overall he seems alright.

In other news: D&D Version 4.0 comes out soon!

Thassodar

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devilgoku — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:49:58 MST

God, jaffe couldn't make it any more obvious that there will be a TM for the PS3. Did anybody else notice the random "TWISTED METAL" image that came up for a brief second during the transaction? The video editor must have even though it was obvious. On top of all that, Jaffe is a pretty cool guy. He may not make the best games(i mean, Twisted Metal isn't that great.) but he does a good job in being creative.

devilgoku

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AtomixIGN — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:44:42 MST

I think Nintendo needs to put some money out there and put together an EAD America Development House right in the heart of Silicon Valley. Compete for western talent like David Jaffe instead of simply against them. They've already moved their marketing teams from Washington to San Fran. Renting or building enough space in Silicon Vally to house 150 to 200 programmers and artists would attract masses of talent away from houses like Naughty Dog and Insomniac. EA and Sony. Even Blizzard and Lucas Arts.

If they could score one Jaffe to start it up with members of Retro and NST along with new hires the games that a Dev House like that could put out would blow minds. Listening to him gush over Shiggy like that and being such a huge fan of both of their work... i just need to see what a collaboration like that would produce.

AtomixIGN

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zoesch — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:39:20 MST

I found the Kutaragi part quite amusing, in fact the way Kutaragi described Jaffe was quite the praise.

The second segment was a tad less interesting, I can't see Jaffe doing a Mario, maybe a Ratchet & Clank, but Mario? No way, not in his system.

zoesch

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akira4332 — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:35:22 MST

Minkowski?!

akira4332

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Power_Wrist — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:34:23 MST

@Spartan1308: Kutaragi is the only reason there are a lot of Sony fans.

Power_Wrist

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Kirbytheslayer: In-Kirby XMB — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:34:13 MST

@Spartan1308: @symphony_of_the_night: Shit. I just realized I made a really stupid mistake.
Sorry on my part. I didn't mean Kutagari. I meant that other Sony Exec who was a dumbass. What's-his name. Not Harrison.

Hirari! That's the guy I hate. That bastard. My mistake. Sorry.

Kirbytheslayer: In-Kirby XMB

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NeoAkira — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:31:32 MST

@greeble:

The outcome of the bet was shown at the end of the video. Kutaragi said he knew Jaffe as the creator of the Twisted Metal series.

NeoAkira

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Father-Time — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:30:14 MST

Hypothetically if they were to create an open world for TM on PS3 I would very weary of it because I doubt it can be pulled off.

Also the hypothetical twisted metal on a hypothetical PS3 would be awesome, hypotheticaly.

Father-Time

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greeble — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:27:49 MST

Jaffe often comes off like a dick. But here he is pretty funny and likeable. And if they *were* to be making a Twisted Metal for ps3 I *would* be pretty happy bout it. Kotaku better report on the outcome of the bet.

greeble

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symphony_of_the_night — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:26:22 MST

@Spartan1308: I agree .

symphony_of_the_night

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Spartan1308™ — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:19:33 MST

@Kirbytheslayer: In-Kirby XMB: Kutaragi is the reason there are a lot of Sony fans.

Spartan1308™

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FP ph15h — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:19:29 MST

shrooms n bumpin heads Machine guns and machetes... cool

FP ph15h

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Kirbytheslayer: In-Kirby XMB — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:16:25 MST

You know, I would bet that because it's Kutagari, there's a pretty good chance he wouldn't know him. I love Sony, but Kutagari...ugh. He ruined so much for us Sony fans.
Though it'd definitely be a pretty safe bet to bet $1000 dollars that Shane Kim doesn't even know what Halo is.
[kotaku.com]
That was a hilarious story. Actually, I just wanted an excuse to segue into the story because I just thought it was so funny.

And who wouldn't want to give Mario a machete and a machine gun? I'm surprised Miyamoto never tried it himself.

Kirbytheslayer: In-Kirby XMB

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Spartan1308™ — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:16:06 MST

He was kicking and screaming when it came out that it was great and the test groups were wrong, but he now says that the gameplay wasn't what he wanted it to be and he also said it was more fun to make than... More fun to make than what? More fun to make than play is my guess.

Spartan1308™

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Crazyeyez15 — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:14:04 MST

blow the !!@#%^&& off this thing!!!!!!!! lmao hell yea!!

Crazyeyez15